https://www.onemorecast.co.uk/products/rig-ready


youtube video



This seems like a product that should have existed 20 years ago. Has this ever existed?

It genuinly solves a problem that I have. I'm actually impressed.

In reply to Post #2
Why would you have a rig or lead on the rod before you even arrive at the lake? So you set off with a 3.5 lead attached, only to find that the carp are in the margins and you needed a light lead.. or you've gone out of your way to produce a beautiful steamed curved stiff hinge rig and you turn up and find them in a completely different area of the lake than you expected and it's a clean bottom and you need a wafter.

This is a non product. This has got Ridgemonkey written all over it.

“Dave and Dave had done all the work”. What they stuck a bit of Velcro on a Korda rig box?

Really? The Korda boys must be pissing themselves. This is the launch product.? Is it April already?

It's very basic could of been took a bit further and added an adjustable tension type of mechanism to keep your rigs straight. Even after using that product you could still end up having to steam your rig straight.

In reply to Post #3
Then you change your rig. But for the people who are turning up in the dark after work, and know with 95% confidence they will be flicking a few stiff hinges out. I think its perfect.

Personally I always pack my rods away with the rigs and leads on ready to go. Of I have to change the lead or rig because of situation then so be It.bit if I'm dropping back in the same swim, its great when your rigs are exactly how you left them on the rod.

Perhaps it just doesn't suit your style of fishing.

That is rubbish.

Be me

Pack down rod with rig I didn't catch anything on -->again<--, rock up the next weekend. Set up rod with old rig on, unclip old rig from quick change swivel, replace with fresh new rig, cast out, sit there all weekend, catch sod all, rinse and repeat.

I mean, wooooot?

In reply to Post #1
More absolutely pointless crap, i bet korda regret the day he walked away with such a great idea.

The "inventors" should have skipped Ali altogether and taken this on Dragons Den. Winner winner, chicken dinner.

£59.97 for your three rods bargain

Made in the U.K 🤣

In reply to Post #9
It always comes down to money with you doesn't it

The product makes no sense, just buy 3 thinking anglers lead bands for £10 and hook your rig to your butt eye. Save yourself £50 and achieve the same result.

In reply to Post #3
Agree 100%, and the ridgemonkey comment too

In reply to Post #12
How does that keep your curved stiff section curved?

If he doesn't release stuff better than this I think he will quickly go from One More Cast to One Last Gasp.

In reply to Post #11
It sure does

In reply to Post #14
Pop the hook through the swivel then pop on a rubber earring backing to protect the point and keep it in place

Really tempted to send him my idea of PVA under pants™ instead of taking home crusty shredies, launch them into the drink and they'll just dissolve. No taking home of crusty draws 👌

In reply to Post #18
Already available,dissolving shorts

In reply to Post #19
Hmm.

Here's one, what about slowly dissolving.leads? Ah ha 😁

So instead of leads being made of lead, what about made of PVA so that there's no possible water pollution when you drop a lead as bods do and they just litter the lake bottom? Would be quite big to replace lead, but come on, think of the environment, you know?

I'm just an ideas kinda guy...

To be fair if, like me, you tie a lead directly to a leadcore or heavy nylon leader for heli set ups this is a great idea. They're a **** to store set up on the rod
I wouldn't buy them, but there are worse ideas

In reply to Post #20
I can't see the increase in size being that much of an issue, if you offset the additional drag during the cast with 18ft 10lb test rods.

I reckon you could be on to something. I would suggest a Pva brolly to save carrying it back to the car, but Fox perfected them years ago.

In reply to Post #21
Name ten. I bet you'll struggle. As it's Christmas I will give you two as a starter. The Nash runway and the Nash Tealight bivvy heater.

In reply to Post #23
ND water fountain/shower or whatever the **** that is. ND leveling scales jobby; that was a kack idea.

In reply to Post #23
Chub toilet roll holder
Plastic baits
Plastic gears inside reels
Bed chair frame porn hub ****ing tablet holder
Clear osprey leads
Heated blanket
Depleting krill stocks to feed **** pigs
Bait boats
Terry Hearn branded rods in variations he would never use himself
Changing tech black line
I have more

In reply to Post #25
How dare you slag off the heated blanket

In reply to Post #23
New direction flashing bucket, because you need to be able to locate your water when it's dark.

In reply to Post #24
To be fair if this rig box had been made by ND then it would have slotted perfectly into their Stella range of ideas

In reply to Post #1
Don't listen to them Ali

I await your clothing range

In reply to Post #26
Ok. Replace the blanket with quick drag... Or vlogs

In reply to Post #1
I think Ali has had so much smoke blown up his arse over the years he's now delusional.

In reply to Post #29
Are you Ali?
Are you Ali?

Are you Ali's mum in disguise?

Are you Allllliiiis mum in disssssssggggggguise?





I thank you

In reply to Post #28
Maybe it's these two that are tapping up Ali that are the ideas men behind ND and that they're branching out?

ND do have a catalogue of some serious old tatt.

In reply to Post #23
Nash butt beanie for another

I have no beef with Ali, not my cup of tea with all that shouting but i mean him no harm ... however i think there is aready a noticeable drop off in interest in him/his company on social media so will be interesting to see how his career/company progresses ...... and in addition perhaps its my perception only, but Korda seem to have started to shift away from the shouting, screaming, essex boy routines towards a more mature persona.

In reply to Post #24
The water thing made me feel weird

He needs to rebrand his company as LOS, because its a load of *****

I noticed a bedchair cover in that vid,I think once he really launches the brand he will be alright

I knew there would be a "every thing is **** this is **** carp fishing is ****" type responce on here.

I can't stand Hamidi as a person. But this product genuinly does solve a problem that I have, so I assume other people do as well.

The other people's solutions posted in here which are pretty much mean you should tie fresh rigs each time, or use a plethora of other contraptions to get the same effect.

First hand this looks like a simple solution to a problem many people have.

No, i probably won't buy it, bit that's not the point

In reply to Post #35
I personally don't mind him but I really think his attempt at this brand has just been poor, maybe he will prove me wrong.

For me the name is bad, sounds like the name of a YouTube film and the branding is also weak.

Maybe there's some better products in the pipeline but if this his the best he can do on his debut product, then I'm not hopeful.

In reply to Post #17
And how does that keep the hooklink straight? What a load of faff

In reply to Post #39
I think that's the whole point. You say you are one of the people who recognise that this fixes a problem you have. Yet even you won't buy one. So how many is he going to sell?

In reply to Post #23
Naming 10 bit's of **** is easy, Nash pretty much cover the lot.

Name 10 things currently not available that would be big movers and you would buy.

In reply to Post #42
Tonnes probably.

I can't stand the guy. But I think its great, some people have invented a product, Ali has bank rolled it and taken on a lot of the risk on their behalf and getting it into shops. Good for him.

In reply to Post #39
I think wether people like a product or not is fair enough.
Declaring personal hatred for somebody people have never met in the flesh is pathetic. But the constant insinuation that the entire county of Essex is full of ****s and anybody who speaks with a London accent is thick or a degenerate makes that person look, well, a ****

In reply to Post #45
Towie and made in Chelsea don't help,plus you're all Southern softies

In reply to Post #45
Have you been to Essex?

In reply to Post #46
Don't remember Ali being in either of those
You'd be hard pressed to find a better role model for kids than a lot of the highly successful business/salesmen in the industry. Wet woollen sleeves, photos of fish tails and a whispy pubic hair beard may seem cool to some now but it won't buy you a lambo or clear the mortgage

In reply to Post #46
Absolutely ridiculous idea. Most Rod sleeves I've had, that box contraption wouldn't even fit in the sleeves.

How hard is it to use a quick link and pop the hook link off and into a rig case, takes less time that strapping that silly box onto the rod!

More plastic c#%p to lug around that solves a problem nobody ever knew existed. Looking forward to seeing the dedicated carry case and other accessories.
Honestly, it's all just so ridiculous.

In reply to Post #35
Can't stand all that shouting can't watch it for long

Good luck to Ali on this. I do hope the company builds up to meets his expectations and expertise. I can't see them fitting into my fishing but it may suit others. The idea is not OMC which they stated and have left the innovators branding on the plastic box which is a nice touch.

In reply to Post #52
People saying the hook point gets damaged, has anyone ever damaged a hook point booking it over an eye?

In reply to Post #1
Not for me but at least its a new idea - get the ridge monkey vibe that people mention.

My initial impression was yeah can see the point but to much clutter for me. I think the price point is a tad steep, at £10 a pop would fit it into the same range as most "rod accessories" imo.

Also think it could have been more refined & improved tbh. Imagine having a rig board on it with room for 3 or 4 rigs.


Like i said not one for me but well done on launching their first product and it not being a copy of what's already out there. The fella has launched a business through a pandemic, regardless of what people think of him (im sure not many of the haters on here have actually never met him and spent some time with him) some respect should be given to what he has done getting this company off the ground and also what he has done for the wider world of carping.

In reply to Post #1
I don't think it's that ridiculous an idea tbh. Certainly not on the same level as the Nash footpath or Bankbug spoon imo.
They'd work well for guys that use tip tops.
They'd be decent for moving quickly (I always end up with rigs swinging about everywhere when I've dumped everything on the barrow to get round to showing fish).
I'll not buy them as I don't use tip tops and and I can't be bothered to carry 3 boxes around in case I want to move quickly but I don't think they're useless.

Edit: Could have been made a bit smaller though. They look massive.

Would it be a bit more worthwhile if it kept a straight rig or boom under tension, then had a coned or curved part that could keep a chod section under tension. A combination of the Korda rig safe and chod safe?

Other than protecting a hook point, which can be done with a filter tip, I don't see the point in putting a rig in a box with no tension.

Pointless or not, as said before, a nice touch to be so open about the people who came up with it.

Can't see the benefit of this at all. You can buy those rig clips from ngt for a few quid. Hook in to foam and a clip on to the eye of the rod. They've been about years. Most people have a detachable lead that can be taken off and put on within seconds.

Not for me, I have my rods made up strapped to the rod with lead bands then just clip on a rig and that's it. About the only rig I could see it being useful for is a choddy set up but even then personally I would just use a chod band....

For their first product it was always going to be a gamble....they could have played it safe and released a terminal range for example just the same as everyone else so credit for going with something innovative.

In reply to Post #1
Wow what a divisive set of responses.

Personally I use a PVA bag in 99% of my fishing so it wouldn't really appeal to me.

I can see the use with a stiff hinge or other rigs with curves formed etc, but it's not something that would interest me at that price, mind you, £20 for a piece of plastic in carp fishing nowadays that's not unusual is it.

First of many products which is all about Ali maximising his independent influence to add £££'s to his bank balance. I'm sure we would all do the same in his situation.

Being as Ali is such a prominent character he's always going to attract a lot of feedback / criticism etc.

I like the guy, he's clearly been a big part of Korda's success. But watching this whole thing pan out is a bit cringe for me, he's clearly been involved with TV and become eager to make something of his own, which is natural. But the whole vlogs and product announcements is just rubbish. The OMC cammo, the eagerly awaited OMC hook, uurgh

In reply to Post #59
Thought it looked like another thing you don't really need tbh Certainly didn't think it was revolutionary.

Let's hope his future items are better.

This has to be in the running for the most predictable thread of 2021...

Nothing revolutionary but something new which Ali has always stated he wanted to do.

Over hyped? No doubt it will be.
Would I buy 1 (or 3) No, not required for my fishing for the reasons plenty of people on this thread have posted.
Will others? No doubt, it's their choice at the end of the day.

Happy to go against the grain on this one... agree they're far from ‘essentials' (and the only
Ridgemonkey item I own is a toaster) but I'll find them genuinely useful and bought three last night.

99% of my fishing is worknights, which apart from the height of summer is often a race against the fading light or packing up in the dark. I hate leaving rigs clipped in the rings as I don't often use set ups where you can change the hook quickly and I prefer not to sharpen hooks (tin hat on), am normally turning up to areas where I don't need to lead about before casting, and as far as packing down goes, they mean I can have literally everything else packed away before reeling my rods in, clipping these things on and shooting off home.

I know it'll save me a couple of minutes at most of fiddling around unclipping rigs and so on, but anything that makes the process more efficient - and means I don't have to take my gloves off on freezing winter mornings as I've got some crappy condition that means cold fingers are an absolute b*tch - is something I enjoy. Definitely not the cheapest option but it appeals and I'll find it useful.

That said, I suspect most people will buy them regardless of whether they'll make a real difference to their angling, but that's marketing and personal choice innit. The box I ticked for bigger alloys on my car doesn't make me a better driver, but I like ‘em and they make me feel like I've got a bigger willy.

Don't know what the big deal is in respect to who makes this product. Could have been Rolex and still got a similar response from me.

A bad idea is a bad idea. Yeah, maybe some can see some sort of use for this, for me, the whole box concept is daft, a sock thing with a zip which velcro's to your rod would have been a better way of going with this, not a clunky box type contraption.

But or don't buy these, I'm sure some people like them and see there purpose........similar to the JAG pod that you need to remortgage your house to purchase only for your rods to be sat on which a 15yr old Fox pod can do for penny's in comparison........

In reply to Post #64
There you go !!!

You have now made a good (better) idea out of a bad one , get on it !!!

I admit, the 'box' was my first thought. Couldn't imagine 3 of those of my rods in a quiver, it's bulky enough already with the reel covers etc..on.

In reply to Post #35
agree and even the rest of the team had digs about his enormous ego and gob well before he left

In reply to Post #66
There's the thing though. You mention reel covers. If there was ever an needless unnessisary contraption to me, it would be using a quiver with reel covers. If someone invented that set up today everyone would be laughing at it. But for you, that works for what you need.

I see value in this product. I've not seen a better option posted by a single person in this thread for a quicker and better way to turn up ti a lake with a hinge stiff rig ready to go.

In reply to Post #68
The reel covers actually made it less bulky than having the 3/4 length sleeves on it. (I have an old original Aqua 4 rod quiver with sleeves etc..) Now the hood for that was/is pointless as you couldn't fit the hood over the 3/4 length sleeves without 'possibly' damaging the rods.
Plus the older sleeves don't accommodate rods ringed with 50" eyes without a struggle (another pointless product for some, 50" eyes )

So as you say the reel covers serve a purpose FOR ME.

If this product was made out of neoprene or any other softer material then I think it would get more of a positive response. Unfortunately, for some this product was always going to get knocked just because who has released it.
It's a JAG scenario IMO

In reply to Post #69
Surely if it was neoprene or any soft material it wouldn't serve its purpose though, it needs to be rigid to keep the rig straight.

You literally could have predicted every single negative comment in this thread its the same old grumpy little men, who I'm pretty convinced most of whom haven't been fishing since 2006, being grumpy and hating everything

It's one thing to bash a product, but to suggest this doesn't serve a purpose is ludicrous. Loads of people have posted their hack job ways that they try to solve this exact same problem. So clearly there is a market there.

Some people like to take their rigs off anc clip them onto a board to keep them straight. What's the difference in carrying that board, or instead using this one clipped to your rods people make me laugh.

In reply to Post #70
Surely if it was neoprene or any soft material it wouldn't serve its purpose though, it needs to be rigid to keep the rig straight.

Good point. That's why I do what I do and I'm not an innovator .

Yeah sort of knew what was going to happen when I see the OMC post on Instagram last night.

In reply to Post #68
At least it's something new, and plenty of people will find it useful. There won't ever be an item that everyone wants or needs.

Not sure if I'll buy any but they would be handy for me, the main reasons being I have OCD and have to put everything away properly, so the lead pouch stays out, the tackle box stays out etc until I've brought the rods in. And I don't want leads banded to the rods.

NGT will probably have a version out in a few months for a tenner a pop, same as they ripped off the Guru rig box etc. Cost ain't exactly an issue in Carp fishing though is it, when people have £3k of rods and reels on their £500 pod, whilst sitting on a £400 bedchair inside a £1000 tent - with a cup of tea resting on a £60 bivvy table.

In reply to Post #69
Bloody hell.. 50” guides

That's 4ft 2 inches

In reply to Post #24
Girls in my office bought me one of those pumps for my birthday, i thanked them very much and put it with my gear i use abroad.
Best thing i have ever used for getting water out of a boat.
Even gets the water from below inflatable decks if you angle the boat slightly 👍

In reply to Post #74
I like to exaggerate and proves why they wouldn't fit the sleeves

In reply to Post #77
Also used it to put out my heated blanket when it caught fire 👍

In reply to Post #62
Stop being so reasonable and balanced. It's boring.

You need to align yourself in one of the two camps.

1. It's amazing. My life is now complete. I have another green piece of plastic. Who needs world peace when you can have this?

Or

2. It's complete tosh. I hate Ali. I hate everyone that's met him or even seen him on tv. I hope he gets dandruff.

These are your only two options. Deal with it.

What's your name? Switzerland?

In reply to Post #75
“Girls in my office bought me one of those pumps for my birthday, i thanked them very much and put it with my gear i use abroad”

Now just for a minute I had a terrible vision .............

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In reply to Post #80

Is it made of recycled plastic because surely that'd be an obvious thing to do wouldnt it?

In reply to Post #23
I use nssh runway in really muddy pegs but not to walk on. Being an ex match angler I now the issues of mud in your pole joints. So mine is laid out and pegged for bushwhacker sections. Remove two at a time they fit perfect. And no struggling with jammed sections.

Also bivvy pegs stop your sections being blown into the mud.

In reply to Post #84
Contact Nash,if they rebrand it as a bushwhacker mat they will sell loads more

In reply to Post #84
And that needs £60 worth of Nash runway rather than a £3 tarp for what reason?

In reply to Post #84
Why not just use a pole roller and sock for it - even more protection as keeps off floor and cost pennys

In reply to Post #86
Cos the Nash runway matches brand names,do try keep up

ffs, £20 for a bit of plastic, there will be a chink version shortly being sold on the bay @ £4:99!

In reply to Post #1
Oh dear, what is the point of that? Just hook the rig over a rod ring and use a small velcro band or even an elastic band. to prevent the lead from swinging around or even take the lead off. What I've done for the last 25 years of carp fishing.

I think Ali was fired over this. Danny couldn't take it any longer. No, Ali, we are not releasing a tackle box with straps to attach to your rod. But Ali wouldn't stop, and thus they met halfway, keeping the firing part secret. But it's all clear to me now.

In reply to Post #90
Becasue that doesn't keep the curved section of a hinged stiff rig curved, and often kinks the straight section.

Seriously can people not see this. Are you just so angry to poo poo things you don't think?

In reply to Post #91
I've no interest in OMC or Ali Hamidi personally, saw this thread looked online, saw the product and laughed!! Then he pops up on insta and states it wasn't even their idea.... Just another social media marketing business as far as I can see, I wouldn't expect anything groundbreaking from them.
I don't know what Pete Castle's input or role in the business his, but I fear he'll be tarnished if and when it all goes tits up!!

In reply to Post #92
Come on mate, how long does it take to cut a leader knot, pop a bead off, slide a chod section down, pop the bead on and tie a new leader knot. It's literally less than a minute. There's absolutely seconds in it. That box wouldn't even go in my aqua sleeves.

You said yourself, it's solved a problem you never even knew you had...

In reply to Post #94
Hosestly? All that faffing around takes ages compared to just opening a box and it's already done. And what if you have to use tubing?

Doing all that nonsence in the dark, in winter, X3. You can't see how this is faster

I never said it solves a problem that I didn't know I had, I literally said this is a problem that I have and this solves it.

In reply to Post #93
Where is Pete Castles input. I remember him on the korda podcast a while back saying he had invested a product that would "revolutionise" people's fishing.

In reply to Post #95
I think they are good to be honest. Just not sure about the price.

In reply to Post #97
They would be better if a bit more streamline

In reply to Post #98
I think more people will be getting these than they let on. Once they actually think about it.

In reply to Post #1
Well I like the idea although I will wait until a more streamlined Mark2/3 version comes out with hopefully a bait soak area etc, its sure to come.
Prep before going to work, straight from work and cast out before dark, they doesnt solve a problem but will make life a little less rushed.

In reply to Post #98
Agree btads think it's a good idea just a bit bulky

In reply to Post #101
It would definitely be improved if less bulky as it won't fit into a lot of rod sleeves.

In reply to Post #98
Absolutely this.


It baffles me people saying turning up with your rig perfect and ready to go isn't a major time and effort saver.

"just completely untie your rig and then put it in a seperate rig box"

Honestly, anyone that has suggested that, please read it back to yourself. Why untie your rig to keep it safe in a rig box when you could put it in a rig box without it untied.

Honestly

In reply to Post #102
Better still if it was built into the rod sleeve. All it needs is a stiff bit of plastic sowed into the side with a velcro cover.

In reply to Post #103
It solves a very minor problem in a specific and limited set of circumstances, but for £60 for 3 rods it's not really worth it for me.

Those that think it's great, go ahead and buy it, but it's not for me. As a first product for a company, I'll say again, it strikes me as one of desperation to get something out there.

In reply to Post #103
It is definitely a good idea and well thought out but I'm sure the mk2 will be more streamline.They might tweak it to add a foam that you can pin your lead and rig in place too

In reply to Post #105
Good time of year to launch it,Christmas stocking filler for a few

Never had a problem using the plastic hook ups for transporting my rods with rigs attached, takes a couple of seconds to attach a lead and re curve a chod/hinge stiff with my thumb, therefore, I'm out.

Daz

In reply to Post #107
You'd need big fecking stockings for three of these.

In reply to Post #72
Hooks? Everyone needs and wants them 😉👍

Some decent affordable clothing wouldn't go a miss. The carp tax on clothing is staggering. I saw a pair of Korda trousers a while back. They looked nice enough but I think I was told they are a hundred pounds. I mean come on they are Korda not Gucci.

How about some good quality alarms that aren't £800 a set.? Etc etc

Ali has got serious clout in the industry. I hope he puts it to good use.

In reply to Post #1
. . .was expecting better as a first release . . .this product solves a problem that doesn't exist as well as adding cost and weight to your rod set up, let alone storing them somewhere when your actually fishing. The only vague benefit is leaving your hookbait on and mice free when storing . . .however the gluggy foam mess that would occur after a few trips doesn't sound that appealing . . .

Daft product so 3/10

Decent velcro rod band, hook in butt ring, job done. Leads can either be left on or if using a leadclip stored elsewhere. Does it really take that long to attach your hookbait / lead of choice . . .?

In reply to Post #111
Loads of decent clothing out there that isnt carp branded. I dont think ive ever bought a carp branded item of clothing its all ****.

In reply to Post #113
I know. I agree but my point is just cos it's carp clothing it shouldn't be crap and over priced. He's backed by Ted Baker isn't he ???

Imagine if he brought out a range of really good quality clothing at a sensible price. They'd clean up wouldn't they?

In reply to Post #114
Not if it's that bloody awful stuff him and Zamora have been wearing.

In reply to Post #115
I've not seen it. Is it that bad?

In reply to Post #116
It's a rip off of German fleck tarn.

In reply to Post #114
If he's backed by ted baker, it'll be expensive. If it's expensive you may as well buy north face or bergaus

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In reply to Post #117
The German fleck is one thing but the **** cost Bobby Zamora was wearing looked like a fishtail Parker . And better suited to a bank holiday weekend at Brighton

In reply to Post #114
I was really surprised Korda didn't bring out clothing as part of the Basix range.

I've never understood why people buy fishing branded clothing

In reply to Post #121
Like a string vest?

In reply to Post #123
When everyone is looking to scale down looks like some people think this aditional plastic boxes are practical... This product is pure proof that carp anglers will buy **** if you pack it right.

In reply to Post #124
Totally agree, carp anglers more conditioned than the fish. Another crock of “must have” **** that the sheep will buy. 10p worth of injection moulded plastic lol

In reply to Post #124
Everyone looking to scale down? Have you seen the amount of kit most people take these days? Scaling down and fishing bare bones is a small minority of anglers.

In reply to Post #126
Especially now power barrows seem to be around more. You see them being used on tiny little ponds

Anyway, you could ditch your normal rig box, and use this instead.

There's still people replying in this post saying that this solves a problem that doesn't exist....... And then they explain what they do and what kit the use to solve the problem make your mind up.


I can't imagine what it was like when the first rod holdalls came out that you could keep your reel on the rod. It only takes a few minutes to put your reel on and thread the line!!!!!!!

In reply to Post #118
Ted baker are not very expensive and are definitely not a designer make.

In reply to Post #127
. . .its a problem that doesn't exist as it was resolved a long time ago . . .this isn't really improving anything either and is there to catch more anglers rather than more fish . . .its up there with the Hydre butt cup / Trakker Hook ups IMHO and falls squarely in the 'SYDN' category . . .

I shall buy one, as a splint for my Hampton needs supporting now the wind doesn't fill it anymore, as Ali said "nice sponge insert to rest against the rod" I can keep some munga wipes in the case might as well make use of it to it's full potential, all it needs now is a sack cradle with soft padding to hang from the hips and I shall be making One More Cast.

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In reply to Post #129
Problem. I can't keep a stiff hinge rig boom section straight and the curved section curved perfectly and ready to go on my rods.

This solves that problem, does it not?

One more con

In reply to Post #133
You are always so negative about literally everything, it must be so exhausting.

How is it a con. No one has to buy anything. Its a product to solve a problem a few people have, who is being conned?

In reply to Post #134
And you are so dramatic about things it must be even more exhausting. £20 for a bit of injection moulded plastic that cost pennies to produce makes it a con. But you part with your money to solve the "problem" you have. A fool and his money .....

In reply to Post #135
NGT will bring one out for 3.99 and will probably be better made

In reply to Post #135
Then make your own for pennies

Seriously who is being conned? Just have a day off.

Like we all didn't see this thread going this way

In reply to Post #137
I don't need to make my own for pennies because it solves a "problem" that doesnt exist for the vast majority of anglers. Because I'm not a lazy angler I tie nice fresh rigs every session.

Take you own advice , have a day off

In reply to Post #139
People who tie fresh rigs at home so they are prepaired for when they turn up in the dark are lazy anglers

In reply to Post #140
I like to tie my rigs to suit the swim I'm fishing, and that swim choice depends on what I find when I arrive at the water. To tie them at home means that I'm either just "making do" with whatever I've tied (lazy angling) , or decided where I'm fishing before I've even arrived (lazy/poor angling in the majority of situations imo) . No doubt omc will sell some of these, as will ngt in a couple of months when their version comes out. When it comes to inventing problems to then fix,Korda are king but omc may be hot on their tails now. Surely they could have come up with something better to launch their brand with....

This says it all I think

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ8xqyoZXCc&list=PLY_4wI8nn4vfHewgLiO9uKvii1HnjsPb5

In reply to Post #142
This says it all I think

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ8xqyoZXCc&list=PLY_4wI8nn4vfHewgLiO9uKvii1HnjsPb5

Sure that's the right link?

In reply to Post #141
Do you actually fish much though?

Have you ever packed up in a swim to go to work in a plan to get back in that swim when you turn up again that night in the dark. Having your rigs perfect and ready to go and not have to piss about tying or straightening rigs in the wind and rain is a problem I'd like solved.

Ever fished a Reservoir where its a very featureless bowl. You can garantee with 99% accuracy which ever swim you pick, your rig choice isn't going to change. After you've spent 5 hours walking and climbing trees, having your rigs ready to cast out without any faf seems like a nice treat.

Ever fished a mega weedy lake, where every swim is just chock full of weed, and you know full well you are going to be using the same rig pretty much anywhere.

Or perhaps a lake where you are pre baiting several very similar spots, you know your spots, and you know what rigs you are going to be using.

I know some people like to turn up and change thier rig to the exact mm, use different coloured shrink tube for different substrates and change every little thing. In which case, they don't want to be turning up with their rigs ready to go.

But for some others like me, especially when turning up in the dark, want as little work as we can possibly do when turning up. If that means carrying 3 seperate rig boards instead of one big rig board then so be it?

In reply to Post #132
. . .that's a minor irritation based on a single rig, not a 'problem' though really is it!

When I was a chod clone I kept my curved sections in a little Nash chod bin . . .I could get about 20x links in there and the box was smaller than a T mug. If I wanted to fish a stiff hinged I generally tied / crimped the boom on the bank but more usually just left it on the rod when packing away (butt ring / velcro method) and re-formed the curve with my fingers on the next outing . . .hardly a chore . . .

In reply to Post #143
It is on my iPad

In reply to Post #145
So? What's the issue with solving a minor irritation?

Having to tie on pop ups is a minor irritation, so i use bait screws. Because they exist and solved that issue. What's the issue with wanting tk make everything as simple and irritation free as possible?

In reply to Post #144
Hence I wrote in the vast majority of situations, not the couple of niche ones you've listed. No need to make bellend comments about fishing much either Sam. I probably don't carp fish as much as you do these days because after over 30 years doing it I've realised there are many species out there which are just as fun to target, if not moreso. Thankfully I do fish waters which have variety too so preconceived ideas generally are a waste of time.

In reply to Post #148
So it is useful for some situations then.

So what is your problem. Why do you have to shun everything. Just accept for some people, it's a product they may need. Just because you don't want or need something, doesn't make it uselss.

In reply to Post #149
I don't shun everything at all Sam, stop being dramatic. This thread has many people saying what a load of crap basically, and you insisting you have a "problem" which has now been solved. If it was that much of a "problem" , these contraptions would have been bought out by someone years ago. It's one for the sheep.

Before the Trakker hook ups I actually had some I made I'd lost a few over the years but the price you can pick them up for now from the shop I have them on all my rods and spares for when I loose/break one etc and for a lot less than three of OMC jobs.

They go on all my hooklinks for any rigs, if I use a lead clip I pop the lead off and put it in the rod sleeve pocket I have about five options in size and shape in each rod sleeve so I can adjust to suit swim/situation, if I'm fishing helicopters or running I have the lead arrangement where I can remove the lead, (plenty of products available for this scenario) no need to have a lead banging around the rod blank. I have a pot for my curved hooklinks if ones kinked or hookpoint turned cut it off and a ready assembled one to tie back on or just reshape tie on bait and lob it out.
I basically fish about three different waters every year and have a different set up for each including bivvies, beds, unhooking mats,nets/slings etc....one lake I fish is small hard clay (lead clip) fishing or solid bags come winter, one is gravel weed generally bigger chucks all on helicopter set-up all year as weed stays prevalent and the other lake dictates in the rules leadclip and tubing, in all instances except for loosing the last metre setups don't change only the hooklinks might.

If people like this product and can see a use for it crack on your money no judgement from me if a company bring it out and loose a shirt on it same applies if they make money from it well done, who cares at the end of the day it's only a bit of fishing some people just get far too involved or emotional about the small things, others believe because they've been at it since the dawn of man their advice is gospel and how dare you not and get stroppy with replies others think their opinion is the only one that's right when hey who cares what your opinion is, some are anti vaxxers some are ok with vaccines, at the end of the day people can offer opinions and advice if it's helpful to people great, if not who cares life is too short anyway my sort of Friday get it off my chest moment.

In reply to Post #150
You called it a con.

It's back like the childish days of slagging off anything Korda made just for the sake of it. You're a fully grown man.

In reply to Post #151
Have they said whether or not you have to be vaxed to use this product? Can you store vaccines in it between Jabs? Cos at this rate we will need one once a week to go fishing soon.

In reply to Post #152
Priceless.....

In reply to Post #153


I wonder when a refrigerated Version will be available.......

In reply to Post #153
Trust you,just need Brexit now for a full house of bull****

In reply to Post #156
They clearly said it UK made so no Brexit supply issues are expected. That and the fact they will probably only sell about a dozen of them before NGT undercut them and they are left with a warehouse full.

In reply to Post #157
They can call that One More Copy

All together now......swing your dicks to the left 🤣🤣

In reply to Post #111
Some decent affordable clothing wouldn't go a miss. The carp tax on clothing is staggering. I saw a pair of Korda trousers a while back. They looked nice enough but I think I was told they are a hundred pounds. I mean come on they are Korda not Gucci.

How about some good quality alarms that aren't Ј800 a set.? Etc etc

Ali has got serious clout in the industry. I hope he puts it to good use.
**********

IMO - he wont all the tackle barrons are in it for same reason *MEGA CASH* baby

carp tax on clothing is staggering -> agree!

thats why i only buy army surplus clothing at a boot sale lol!

ffs, i'm still using the 80's clive&malc waterlot bivviy!

In reply to Post #155

In reply to Post #147
. . .I'm getting the feeling you might be the irritable type ( ) . . .

There is nothing wrong with making everything as simple as possible, totally agree with that point; however this product doesn't really do that does it . . .its limited, clunky, expensive (by the time you've bought 3x) and provides a minor benefit to a challenge that can be resolved in much easier and lighter ways . . . .

Simple is not a word I'd use to describe it . . .

Each to their own - do a review when you've purchased them!

In reply to Post #162
Weight is counteracted when you can then leave your other rig box at home. (the one people are unclipping their rigs to put in)

Price. I think £60 is a drop in the ocean, especially if it made your life easier. If you are anything like me, you probabky have £500+ worth of pop ups sat there that you will never ever use

I dont understand why it's not simple? People find it simple to unclip their rig and put it into a rig box. But putting it into a rig box without unclipping it all of a sudden isn't simple

I havent seen a single way suggested in this thread that is easier and as effective. Every other method has a downside, be it not keeping the boom straight, not keeping the chod section bent, or leaving the hook point open to get caught.


Remember all the children shouting about the Nash Bushwacker. What a silly idea, solves a problem we didn't need solving, wow so expensive, I just use bits of PVC pipe or an old whip with an ice cream tub duct taped on, etc etc. And look now. I beta high percentage of those people now have £300 or more worth of Bushwacker sat in their shed right now.

In reply to Post #163
5 pages of replies, any publicity is good publicity as they say....personally I don't get why people are so wound up about it.

Don't think there's any point to it? Don't buy it. Don't get all angry on the internet, wasting your life moaning about something that literally does not affect you in any way and you could simply ignore.

Smacks of the green eyed monster tbh.

In reply to Post #164
I'm furious about the whole thing. I'd already bought my wife's presents. Now this. I'm gonna need to take them all back. Bloody Ali Hamidi and his new tangled must have plastic boxes.

Think of the children.

In reply to Post #89
Bit of racism there but hey done in jest u bellend

In reply to Post #163
No need for uncliping if you put 1cm of rig tubing over your hook...I am still waiting to see someone use that bushwaker somewhere outside fb.

The social media marketing onslaught really is in full swing now.

Order yours quick to avoid disappointment because they are flying off the shelves.

Roughly translates to: we haven't had enough pre-orders yet.

Although the adaptation for lure anglers is a genuinely good one.

In reply to Post #166
NPC shill bot detected

In reply to Post #168
I've been out doing a bit of lure fishing, spinning and drop shotting. I can't see how this is any advantage at all. If I'm spinning then the lures are attached with a snaplink, if I'm using a jighead then I just hook it in the eye or the dedicated rod clip as I walk about. It's not like you are trying to keep a rig in shape when lure fishing, it's probably got a wire trace on it anyway, or a fluorocarbon leader on a shotting set up. That plastic box probably weighs more than my rod.

Am I missing something?

In reply to Post #170
Just the hooks getting caught up in something during transport. That was always a pain for me.

In reply to Post #171
The hook up type things the guy sold on the old Cemex forum do the trick. Great little gizmos. Think NGT or Trakker may do them these days.

I can't see it being of any use for my carp fishing as I use rod sleeves that protect the rig and it only takes seconds to recurve a chod rig over your thumb.

But it might be useful for pike fishing as the trebles grab the material in the rod sleeves, jumpers, hands etc.

In reply to Post #163
I've been keeping my rods folded with tip tops and a simple velcro strap for decades and have never once -

1 - Had the lead knock about / damage the blank (its double wrapped in the velcro)
2 - Kinked a boom section (its under tension with the hooklink section intact and attached to the butt ring)
3 - Damaged the hook shank / point itself, or had it catch on anything ever as most of the time its in a sleeve etc.

My rods are 'made up' and the only remaining process is to attach the hookbait / change the rig if absolutely necessary. I use the same rigs for most of my venues anyway so they get packed away (minus the hookbait) every session.

This is why I'm not a believer in this product . . . .nice try but superfluous IMO . . .

In reply to Post #174
They a lapping it up in the youtube comments section lol.

In reply to Post #174
You use a tip top AND a velcro strap, but think this ONE product isn't simple.

So your boom stays straight yes, but any curved section doesn't stay curved.

Using this product is no more work, or no more complicated than you adding that tip top and that velcro strap. It's exactly the same amount of work, probably less. And it keeps your rig in perfect condition.

I understand that you don't want this product, but surely you can work out that other people might and that doesn't make it a bad product. Right?

It's genuinly embarrasing the way some people act about products they don't want. Just because you don't want or see use for something, doesn't make it a bad product.

In reply to Post #176
I still fail to grasp what's so hard about using quick change swivels and clipping on a new rig from your rig box or whatever you use? You could easily get six or so hinged stiff rigs (do it myself) in a Korda rigsafe and still have room for an array of different type of pre tied rigs covering all sorts of different scenarios, just for the cost of a rig box which is far less clunky than what this thread is about.

If you or anyone else wants to buy this thing from Ali's company, go right ahead, I'll not hold you back and try and convince you otherwise; your money right? I turn up from work after a long drive to my place and convenience any speedyness of setting up is paramount, I really get that. The last thing I want to do is spend ages faffing about and I'm not even remotely setup and it's getting on for 10pm and still not had anything to eat, all the same, quick change swivel to unclip the rig from last week that I've just used to find my spots, a new one on, all systems are a go and not 60barr lighter for the privilege.

In reply to Post #177
What's the issue though

You can unclip your rig and put it in your rig box.

Or you can leave your rig clipped up and put it in this rig box.

It just sounds like people want to poo poo this product because Ali has his name behind it. I'm not even going to buy it, but i can see a use of it.

I could use £5 bank sticks, but I choose to use £20 ones. Like many of us do. £60 is hardly bank breaking, and if this works for some people then that's great. If you want to unclip your rigs and put them in your rig box then good for you. But for the love of God stop willing a guys company to fail because you don't like it or him.

If no one buys it, the company will fail. And then everyone here will be happy. But I'm sure it, and many of his other products will sell. And why would that possibly annoy you? Just get on with your life and don't buy things you don't think you need.

In reply to Post #177
I've used ngt hook ups for years had no problems with them

In reply to Post #178
You're moving the goalposts trying to compare cheap banksticks and expensive ones, you've got to compare apples to apples.

Not trying to be argumentative here, I think saying that because it's Ali behind this, that's the reason people are knocking it. Maybe knocking Ali is some bods motivation,, I don't know, not me. I wish the guy all the very best. I'm simply knocking a not so great idea. I'm all over great innovation if it solves a problem for me, this box thing ain't it. Like bods have been saying, it's solving a problem that doesn't really exist.

In essence, this box trickery is a way of generating a cashflow, fair play if anglers wanna stump up the lolly I suppose, similarly full credit to Ali et al, although I won't be buying one as I've no need for such a thing.

In reply to Post #180
You've said you take your rigs off and put them in a box.

This is just a box, does the exactly the same, but it clips to your rods. So how can that be a bad idea?


Of course it's a way of generating cash flow. Why else would a company make a product

You can tell it's winter can't you 😬

If it makes you happy buy it and use it.

If it doesn't and you don't see the point (like me), don't buy it.

We all are guilty of buying things we don't need just for the sake of it from time to time.

When I was a kid I remember not being able to thread my 3lb line through the seemingly endless eyes on my match rod because my hands were shaking as I'd seen something exciting. Nowadays it's all just clip this to that and you're fishing. I guess it's how the world has gone. Everyone just wants the most convenient and quickest way to get to the end result.
Things are so easy now but I really miss the struggle of the past. It felt more soulful. To me anyway.

In reply to Post #122
I buy fox and it make me feel special

In reply to Post #181
I've stewed on this all weekend thinking about it.

It's still a **** idea.

bimely 186 comments for a new nitwit gismo for the insant carp angler!

In reply to Post #187
Rig board you keep in your rucksack - hardcore old school carper.

Rigboard you keep in your rod bag - nitwit instant carper.

In reply to Post #176
. . starting to think you've got shares in this new venture lol . . .

What on earth have tip tops got to do with it? I'd be using these anyway to protect my rod tips irrespective of this product (they perform a separate function - this product does not protect your tips) so I'm not sure what your point is . .

Its not that I don't want this product . . its that I don't actually NEED it!

If it helps you sleep at night I design things for a living - we normally ascertain during the process whether something is useful or not and balance this with style, complexity, cost to design, prototype and manufacture and then market at a profit - all I can say is that for this specific product it feels like it was conceived and possibly 'approved' on a Friday afternoon in the pub . . .

I've sat in and test driven a Tesla P90D - its a beautifully designed, rapid (supercar acceleration) piece of technology and a fantastic product that is difficult not to love - is it necessary however and would I buy one for my current needs . . .NO

In reply to Post #189
I couldn't care less if people buy it, I just think it's really odd people are shunning a product that is literally just an amalgamation of two products they already use.

I have never used a tip top in my life, even with an open quiver and I've never damaged a rod tip. Does that make it a bad product just for noddies? No. It just means its a product that some people may like to use for peace of mind. You don't NEED them.


People have £2k bait boats and castable sonars, remote cameras, £650 bite alarms, and that has all seem to become accepted. Yet if people want a £60 device that keeps their rig in perfect condition when clipped to their rod, all of a sudden that's the limit?

This is exactly thr same as any time Korda have released an 'innovation' everyone jumps on them. If it doesn't solve a problem for you, then don't buy it. It's like a bald man saying hair brushes are stupid and pointless.

In reply to Post #190
No point arguing with the bald guy as you'll never win mate. I personally agree with you.

In reply to Post #190
Don't forget a fishing tent costing over a grand,I won't be buying this product but I can see why people would.

In reply to Post #190
. . your point in not buying it if it doesn't appeal / perform a function for you personally is a fair one . . agree with that.

However I think the possible consensus is that for a new, over hyped player releasing its 'first' product, and with punters expecting something genuinely innovative (with all the noise) that maybe that product should have been a little more considered . . .

Also releasing a single product (rather than a family of items etc) creates a focal point just waiting to be criticised - a weird and risky marketing decision IMO and maybe one that indicates there's a limited amount of cash in the pot at the moment until positive sales dictate otherwise . . .

In reply to Post #193
I think what he has done is very good,he could of just bought the patent and never mentioned the lads involved.Thats what all the other tackle companies do and try to make out its their idea.I think with the financial backing he has got he will be fine

In reply to Post #193
I'm sure cash flow is an issue. I doubt his investors want to chuck all the money in straight off, they just want to dip their toe in before they fully commit.

Imagine if his first product was just a line of terminal tackle. Just the same rebranded Chinese hooks and bits everyone else uses. Everyone would be laughing.

At least his first product launched is genuinly a product that doesn't already exist. If people think its usless or not is up to them, but it's not something anyone else makes.

Im sure after this now he can release his line of hooks and line and all that rebranded chinese stuff, and it won't make his company feel quite like its just re branding chinese stuff like everyone else.

In reply to Post #195
I expect this is their first product as the development process was relatively short. The design work was done, simple injection molding tooling, run them off, on the shelf.
A new hook or clothing range will take a lot longer with design, mfg, testing etc.
Tbh they've done well to get anything on the shelf so quickly imo. Probs prioritized it for the xmas period.

In reply to Post #196
I dont believe ali had anyrhing to do with designing it. Someone else did the hard work and ali got it put into production.

In reply to Post #197
Exactly.

In reply to Post #1
I think Ali has been very upfront on his involvement here.

I for one think it's a good idea and they'll sell more with Ali's branding and name behind it

In reply to Post #192
*Don't forget a fishing tent costing over a grand,I won't be buying this product but I can see why people would. *

not me still using 80's waterlot !

In reply to Post #190
Still not buying it.

In reply to Post #201
So?

In reply to Post #195
that again is a fair point in terms of 'perceived' innovation for a first release . . .however I would be expecting a glut of products to give the business a real POD rather than just a toe dip . . .to be honest the whole TB investment is a weird one in itself - millionaires who fish playing at being tackle gurus - very risky all round.

In reply to Post #203
Yeah i agree it's odd.

There are a lot of brands out there that have crossed over from sport, to general fashion though.

Look at the north face. Outdoor clothing that was aimed at climbers and hiking. Somehow becomes fashionable amongst youngsters and cool people, so I'm told.

Id bet Ali will go after this next. Fishing clothing that doesn't look like fishing clothing. He only has to get a few of his footballer friends seen wearing it and all the trendy oiks will follow suit. .

In reply to Post #204
a fool and his money are easily parted

In reply to Post #205
Jeeze Louise!!!

In reply to Post #205
I dont think much of the bird wearing it either

In reply to Post #207
Thats not a bird,it's Scozza

In reply to Post #205
made in Italy though

In reply to Post #207
She looks like greta thumberg

In reply to Post #208
**** off

Looks like she needs one in the right size too. Try Arco

WTF has it got on its feet?

In reply to Post #211
Thats a bloke,he's got an Adams apple

In reply to Post #212
Looks to be from the suit of armour you can see through the holes in his jeans

In reply to Post #213
Had to have another look, correct

In reply to Post #207
Is it a bird? Scary **** that

old post i know, has anyone had a look or bought the putty that Ali has brought out....he saying like all the other stuff he's brought out its by far the best..naturally he would....im getting towards the end of my Original kryston and all the other stuff is crap compared to the kryston

In reply to Post #217
Interesting he was going on his hook beads are the best and they don't slip, then Korda arrive with a new long distance one this weekend.

In reply to Post #218
Yeah I saw that too, didn't take long. This time next year you'd expect the old style short beads will be a thing of the past. Basically obsoleted by these longer versions.

In reply to Post #217
He did a video at the AD Norwich store and it looked good.

I'm gonna try a few of his bits. He's priced them very, very cleverly (and reasonably) given his old mob are his biggest competition.

Easily spotted he waited for his year non compete to finish before he brought out his own stuff.

In reply to Post #220
Get more items per pack with omc,on the few things I have seen anyway

In reply to Post #221
Definitely cheaper on some but more expensive on others, an example is Krimps

Korda Krimps 0.6 50nr @ £4.75

OMC Krimps 0.6 40nr @ £4.50

In reply to Post #222
I did say on things I had seen,I have not looked in great detail as I have no interest in any omc products

In reply to Post #220
I did see the video on the putty but to me it didn't prove how good the putty was tbh,some bloke pinching it in his fingers...I hope its good as all other putty are crap

In reply to Post #217
Bought a PB hat last week as it looked ideal for float fishing on the Trent to stop my neck burning to a crisp. Nice lightweight bit of gear that fits well and looks decent.