I cannot remember the last time I used a shelf life boilie, but was a long time ago, no doubt shelfies have improved.
Was looking at DNA's and Sticky range of shelfies.
What's the shelf life boilie you've had most success on?
Was looking at DNA's and Sticky range of shelfies.
What's the shelf life boilie you've had most success on?
In reply to Post #1
If we are talking ever then I guess I'd have to say probably one of the ritchworth baits years ago. But I'm not sure that's a relevant answer for today's world as 2o odd years ago I was fishing what would be termed runs waters now.
I did ok a couple of winters ago on Manilla. I've only decided myself in the last couple of years to go back to shelf life and only use the freezer for buckets and particles.
So I can't really comment too much on modern shelfies. I've switched to DNA this year and although i obviously can't speak from experience about it, my first impressions of the nutta, slk and s7 shelf life's is very positive. They seem spot on. I hope they catch me a few going forward as I like them enough that I don't really want to change off of them even though I'm just starting out with them and their deals are very good. So far the service has been spot on as well.
If we are talking ever then I guess I'd have to say probably one of the ritchworth baits years ago. But I'm not sure that's a relevant answer for today's world as 2o odd years ago I was fishing what would be termed runs waters now.
I did ok a couple of winters ago on Manilla. I've only decided myself in the last couple of years to go back to shelf life and only use the freezer for buckets and particles.
So I can't really comment too much on modern shelfies. I've switched to DNA this year and although i obviously can't speak from experience about it, my first impressions of the nutta, slk and s7 shelf life's is very positive. They seem spot on. I hope they catch me a few going forward as I like them enough that I don't really want to change off of them even though I'm just starting out with them and their deals are very good. So far the service has been spot on as well.
In reply to Post #2
Yeah, sorry, I meant current shelf life boilies.
Richworth were the last ones I used from what I can remember
Yeah, sorry, I meant current shelf life boilies.
Richworth were the last ones I used from what I can remember
In reply to Post #1
Abs short shelf life baits.
Abs short shelf life baits.
In reply to Post #1
Have a look at Jason Rider's range - The A Bait
Have a look at Jason Rider's range - The A Bait
In reply to Post #5
Hmmm, thta's some interesting reading, I'm very tempted by this range.
Hmmm, thta's some interesting reading, I'm very tempted by this range.
In reply to Post #6
Hi the lake I am on are discussing shelf life at the moment with the potential to ban it
They are well in with a big bait company and use their Fresh offcuts to feed the lake
They have serious concerns about the shelf life boilies breaking down on the lake bed and think it will only be really known in a couple of years after usage
I have some ccmoore live system shelf life that's now 7 years old and still smells and looks ok apart from having a white coating.
If they are like this after 7 years then what is our lake bed looking like
It's definitely more user friendly for us anglers but what is it doing to our lakes
Hi the lake I am on are discussing shelf life at the moment with the potential to ban it
They are well in with a big bait company and use their Fresh offcuts to feed the lake
They have serious concerns about the shelf life boilies breaking down on the lake bed and think it will only be really known in a couple of years after usage
I have some ccmoore live system shelf life that's now 7 years old and still smells and looks ok apart from having a white coating.
If they are like this after 7 years then what is our lake bed looking like
It's definitely more user friendly for us anglers but what is it doing to our lakes
In reply to Post #1
Only started using shelf-life baits as of last season, went with Baitworks Atlantic Heat, it was very successful for me and miles away from the old shelf-life baits from yesteryear.
This season went with DNA Baits S7 & SLK, results have been very promising so far, very soft for shelf-life baits.
I haven't used either of the above companies fresh / frozen baits so I can't compare to those.
The fish have shown a very positive feeding reaction to both above baits and return for more which is what matters.
Only started using shelf-life baits as of last season, went with Baitworks Atlantic Heat, it was very successful for me and miles away from the old shelf-life baits from yesteryear.
This season went with DNA Baits S7 & SLK, results have been very promising so far, very soft for shelf-life baits.
I haven't used either of the above companies fresh / frozen baits so I can't compare to those.
The fish have shown a very positive feeding reaction to both above baits and return for more which is what matters.
In reply to Post #7
Surely they would fill a bucket with lake water and throw some baits into it and see how long they take to breakdown?
These modern shelf-life baits seem miles better than the old ones and from my understanding only contain minimum amount of preservative?
The biodiversity within the lake should have a big impact upon the bait but I suppose not all shelf-life baits are made the same?
Surely they would fill a bucket with lake water and throw some baits into it and see how long they take to breakdown?
These modern shelf-life baits seem miles better than the old ones and from my understanding only contain minimum amount of preservative?
The biodiversity within the lake should have a big impact upon the bait but I suppose not all shelf-life baits are made the same?
In reply to Post #7
For starters I'd chuck your 7 year old white coated bait in the bin.
The bait is obviously going to behave differently in air to water.
For starters I'd chuck your 7 year old white coated bait in the bin.
The bait is obviously going to behave differently in air to water.
Go with sticky Krill range. Not cheap but really effective everywhere I've fished. Absolute confidence in it.
In reply to Post #10
Hi buddy to be honest I had forgotten about it. It was in a bucket at the back of the garage. I binned it when I found it but was amazed at how good a condition it was in and when you split it with a knife it was perfect inside
Hi buddy to be honest I had forgotten about it. It was in a bucket at the back of the garage. I binned it when I found it but was amazed at how good a condition it was in and when you split it with a knife it was perfect inside
In reply to Post #9
Hi mate. The owners have done this and this is what is causing them to be worried
Hi mate. The owners have done this and this is what is causing them to be worried
In reply to Post #1
cc moore live system
cc moore live system
In reply to Post #8
DNA's shelf life baits soft?
Aarggghhh, I need to throwing stick out 18mm/20mm's to around 110yds
DNA's shelf life baits soft?
Aarggghhh, I need to throwing stick out 18mm/20mm's to around 110yds
In reply to Post #1
Tbh I only used shelfies now due to lack of freeze space mainly, rate the krill really highly as a bait and a range, certainly the best shelfie I have used so far
Tbh I only used shelfies now due to lack of freeze space mainly, rate the krill really highly as a bait and a range, certainly the best shelfie I have used so far
In reply to Post #16
Krill sounds like the one from the comments, thanks all.
Now need to find a good deal
Krill sounds like the one from the comments, thanks all.
Now need to find a good deal
In reply to Post #7
Shelf life boillies have been around for a number of years now though, surely any problems with them would have reared theiir ugly heads by now surely?
Shelf life boillies have been around for a number of years now though, surely any problems with them would have reared theiir ugly heads by now surely?
In reply to Post #1
Only ever used Gs crab/Ocean spice/McNut ss shelfie options, done very well on all.
Only ever used Gs crab/Ocean spice/McNut ss shelfie options, done very well on all.
In reply to Post #15
Yep they are. I've got frozen S7 and shelf life SLK, and there's no noticeable difference in firmness.
Yep they are. I've got frozen S7 and shelf life SLK, and there's no noticeable difference in firmness.
cheery carp are all shelflife
Either Jason Riders A Baits of Baitworks shelf life range
I prefer the Royal Marine and Atlantic Heat in shelf life over frozen as they are a bit firmer.
I prefer the Royal Marine and Atlantic Heat in shelf life over frozen as they are a bit firmer.
In reply to Post #1
Ccmoore pacific tuna , Tangerine orange
Ccmoore pacific tuna , Tangerine orange
In reply to Post #21
And all crap....
And all crap....
In reply to Post #23
I watched a small video of a lake that had been drained on the RH waters and 100s of shelf life boilies scattered the bottom, they reckon some of them had been on the bottom for a very long time and had turned rancid
I watched a small video of a lake that had been drained on the RH waters and 100s of shelf life boilies scattered the bottom, they reckon some of them had been on the bottom for a very long time and had turned rancid
In reply to Post #1
B5 
B5
In reply to Post #25
Ive had a good run on these at my waters, Could be different in others i suppose
Ive had a good run on these at my waters, Could be different in others i suppose
In reply to Post #26
B5 for me too. They are quite hard, but I have caught well on them from different waters. Unfortunately you have to buy rather large quantities to get a decent price.
B5 for me too. They are quite hard, but I have caught well on them from different waters. Unfortunately you have to buy rather large quantities to get a decent price.
In the past few years the only shelf life boilies I have used have been Rod Hutchinson Monster Crab and KMG. I have had some very good fish from the reservoir on them.
The KMG is a long term food bait, not just an attractor package.
The KMG is a long term food bait, not just an attractor package.
In reply to Post #24
can you put some reasons behind that comment please
can you put some reasons behind that comment please
In reply to Post #24
can you put some reasons behind that comment please
can you put some reasons behind that comment please
In reply to Post #31
I'm interested in that too
I'm interested in that too
In reply to Post #28
Hmm, yeah, looked at B5. Like you say, have to spend a fair bit to get bit of money off.
Anyone used both sticky baits krill and blood worm shelf lifes?
Looking at using one of them.
Hmm, yeah, looked at B5. Like you say, have to spend a fair bit to get bit of money off.
Anyone used both sticky baits krill and blood worm shelf lifes?
Looking at using one of them.
In reply to Post #17
Checkout Johnson Ross website for decent prices on the sticky krill, frozen or shelfies
Checkout Johnson Ross website for decent prices on the sticky krill, frozen or shelfies
In reply to Post #34
Been looking at JR site.
Think I just have to accept when swapping to another bait company, can't get what I call decent price on 10kg+
Been looking at JR site.
Think I just have to accept when swapping to another bait company, can't get what I call decent price on 10kg+
In reply to Post #34
Really? £52 delivered considered a good price
Really? £52 delivered considered a good price
In reply to Post #36
Who buys 5kg though
goes down the more you buy...
Who buys 5kg though
goes down the more you buy...
In reply to Post #37
Plenty of people. Those prices are no better than me walking in my local tackle shop. Go outdoors used to do some better deals
Plenty of people. Those prices are no better than me walking in my local tackle shop. Go outdoors used to do some better deals
In reply to Post #38
Looks like they still do, £40.49 for 5kg
Looks like they still do, £40.49 for 5kg
In reply to Post #31
They are little more than euro grade floor sweepings. Awful quality
They are little more than euro grade floor sweepings. Awful quality
If had to chose only one it would be B5 as well. Had one of my best sessions on a hard local water using B5.
My go to shelf life always used to be The Source, would still have no problem with using it straight out of the bag.
In reply to Post #42
Likewise. There is t a shelf life on the market as good as a quality freezer bait, but those source shelf ives do catch their fair share.
Likewise. There is t a shelf life on the market as good as a quality freezer bait, but those source shelf ives do catch their fair share.
In reply to Post #41
I love the frozen B5, used it for years. I find the hardness of the shelflifes puts me off, should it not?
I love the frozen B5, used it for years. I find the hardness of the shelflifes puts me off, should it not?
In reply to Post #44
I have never used the B5 freezers. Living outside the UK, I don't have the opportunity to buy freezers, but I have used the shelfies for years now and when I blank I never feel it had anything to do with the bait. I sometimes soak them in the water from my boiled hemp or the B5 liquid food but i doesn't seem to make them much softer. They can still be used as hookbaits.
I have never used the B5 freezers. Living outside the UK, I don't have the opportunity to buy freezers, but I have used the shelfies for years now and when I blank I never feel it had anything to do with the bait. I sometimes soak them in the water from my boiled hemp or the B5 liquid food but i doesn't seem to make them much softer. They can still be used as hookbaits.
In reply to Post #31
Cherry have their haters which seems to stem largely from the fact the rolling is outsourced abroad to a factory that mass produce a lot of 'euro style' seemingly low quality baits.
Ive seen the range and although I have never used them I know people that have and I don't think they are any worse or better than a large proportion of other baits currently out there and are not even particularly cheap now. Especially when you factor in I think they only deal direct?
One thing I've learnt from this forum is try things for yourself, a lot of '' info'' on this forum comes from regurgitated fake news from people with little or no experience of the product
Cherry have their haters which seems to stem largely from the fact the rolling is outsourced abroad to a factory that mass produce a lot of 'euro style' seemingly low quality baits.
Ive seen the range and although I have never used them I know people that have and I don't think they are any worse or better than a large proportion of other baits currently out there and are not even particularly cheap now. Especially when you factor in I think they only deal direct?
One thing I've learnt from this forum is try things for yourself, a lot of '' info'' on this forum comes from regurgitated fake news from people with little or no experience of the product
Quite a few years ago now I used B5, to almost zero success, switched over to a mix of Trent Freshwater Shrimp & Baitworks Atlantic Heat, before making a decision to use solely Atlantic Heat, and have never looked back.
The fact they now do them in shelf life and are not rock solid (very much the same texture as the fresh) is an absolute bonus. I've mostly use their shelf life and results seem to have been near enough the same as when on their fresh baits in previous seasons.
The fact they now do them in shelf life and are not rock solid (very much the same texture as the fresh) is an absolute bonus. I've mostly use their shelf life and results seem to have been near enough the same as when on their fresh baits in previous seasons.
In reply to Post #46
I used the CNC when it came out for a while, did well for me on the waters I fished, did very well in France on it.
All time fave shelfie has to be Dynamite Baits Banana Nut Crunch, I'd still use it now if it was available....I'm a big fan of Banana flavoured boilies.
I used the CNC when it came out for a while, did well for me on the waters I fished, did very well in France on it.
All time fave shelfie has to be Dynamite Baits Banana Nut Crunch, I'd still use it now if it was available....I'm a big fan of Banana flavoured boilies.
In reply to Post #48
Same here, I caught my first 30 over 20 years ago on a richworth banana ester pop up.
Same here, I caught my first 30 over 20 years ago on a richworth banana ester pop up.
Complex T. Had two geat sessions in France on it.
In reply to Post #46
One thing you've learnt in your 5 minutes on here....
One thing you've learnt in your 5 minutes on here....
In reply to Post #46
That's a bit harsh. Personally I would only ever comment on or recommend a product I had used myself. If your not discerning enough to only take advice from people qualified to give it then that's your problem. I would never criticise a product unless I had used it with adverse results.
That's a bit harsh. Personally I would only ever comment on or recommend a product I had used myself. If your not discerning enough to only take advice from people qualified to give it then that's your problem. I would never criticise a product unless I had used it with adverse results.
In reply to Post #51
Doesnt take long to realise the ones that value their own opinion a bit too highly
Doesnt take long to realise the ones that value their own opinion a bit too highly
In reply to Post #52
What I take issue with is people talking with authority on what a bait contains without being aware of the facts.
People can speculate and make assumptions on a baits quality based on personal experience and results BUT unless you know for 100% what a bait contains I don't find comments like its no more than floor sweepings useful or particularly fair on the company concerned whether that be cherry or whoever. In fact it is libelous.
I cant see how you could know this as fact unless:
a) you have visited the factory and seen the bait being made personally
b) if you have had a chemical analysis done
What I take issue with is people talking with authority on what a bait contains without being aware of the facts.
People can speculate and make assumptions on a baits quality based on personal experience and results BUT unless you know for 100% what a bait contains I don't find comments like its no more than floor sweepings useful or particularly fair on the company concerned whether that be cherry or whoever. In fact it is libelous.
I cant see how you could know this as fact unless:
a) you have visited the factory and seen the bait being made personally
b) if you have had a chemical analysis done
In reply to Post #54
Experience in bait rolling tells you what you need to know. And don't make me laugh, libel 😂 it's called opinion, everyone's got one
Experience in bait rolling tells you what you need to know. And don't make me laugh, libel 😂 it's called opinion, everyone's got one
In reply to Post #55
No, an opinion is the bait didn't bait work for me or it doesn't look to be made of very high quality Ingredients
The bait is nothing more than floor sweepings is not just an opinion, you are passing off something as a matter of fact. Big difference.
No, an opinion is the bait didn't bait work for me or it doesn't look to be made of very high quality Ingredients
The bait is nothing more than floor sweepings is not just an opinion, you are passing off something as a matter of fact. Big difference.
In reply to Post #56
"the bait didn't work for me" is a fact, not an opinion.
I think it's fair that someone can have an ill opinion based on what they have heard or seen from others.
Admittedly IP100 has a certain way with words that might exaggerate that opinion somewhat
"the bait didn't work for me" is a fact, not an opinion.
I think it's fair that someone can have an ill opinion based on what they have heard or seen from others.
Admittedly IP100 has a certain way with words that might exaggerate that opinion somewhat
In reply to Post #57
I agree Yonny, i think the danger comes when people simply regurgitate something they've read elsewhere then all of a sudden one persons opinion suddenly is made to look like half the carp angling community feel the same when the reality is if they used or saw the product first hand they may feel differently. Unfounded comments can be extremely damaging to a business as i have found out unfortunately.
I am NOT saying that is always the case or what happened on here before i get shot down.
I agree Yonny, i think the danger comes when people simply regurgitate something they've read elsewhere then all of a sudden one persons opinion suddenly is made to look like half the carp angling community feel the same when the reality is if they used or saw the product first hand they may feel differently. Unfounded comments can be extremely damaging to a business as i have found out unfortunately.
I am NOT saying that is always the case or what happened on here before i get shot down.
In reply to Post #56
Not at all chap. Go to the shows when they start again, look at the "bait" on offer at a lot of these stands, half of which you've never heard of the company, selling the euro grade floor sweepings rubbish and then go compare then to some of the better firms baits and you will see the difference in quality very easily.
So just to keep you happy, in my opinion cherry carp baits are little more than euro grade rubbish. There you go, nothing matter of fact about that is there?
Not at all chap. Go to the shows when they start again, look at the "bait" on offer at a lot of these stands, half of which you've never heard of the company, selling the euro grade floor sweepings rubbish and then go compare then to some of the better firms baits and you will see the difference in quality very easily.
So just to keep you happy, in my opinion cherry carp baits are little more than euro grade rubbish. There you go, nothing matter of fact about that is there?
In reply to Post #59
Just flicked though this thread. Opinions will always be divided but someone mentioned analysis. There are some very clever people around the bait industry and I assure you that analysing baits is already being done. If it ever comes to light then some companies will be exposed, some will have proof and others won't care one little bit. I'm all for it personally as selling flavoured cow cake for 6 quid a kilo is merely ripping off anglers who deserve a little bit more info and transparency. There is some good companies out there who work hard and honestly but they will be the ones that survive in the end. That's not a dig at any companies mentioned below
Just flicked though this thread. Opinions will always be divided but someone mentioned analysis. There are some very clever people around the bait industry and I assure you that analysing baits is already being done. If it ever comes to light then some companies will be exposed, some will have proof and others won't care one little bit. I'm all for it personally as selling flavoured cow cake for 6 quid a kilo is merely ripping off anglers who deserve a little bit more info and transparency. There is some good companies out there who work hard and honestly but they will be the ones that survive in the end. That's not a dig at any companies mentioned below
In reply to Post #60
flavoured cow cake
flavoured cow cake
In reply to Post #60
Well said and rightly so. Would get rid of the rip off merchants and support the genuine folks
Well said and rightly so. Would get rid of the rip off merchants and support the genuine folks
2 company's baits I will always be confident I am buying a quality bait from is
Mainline and CC Moore
Mainline and CC Moore
In reply to Post #63
Have had great success on the pacific tuna Ccmoore always never done mainline but might try out
Have had great success on the pacific tuna Ccmoore always never done mainline but might try out
In reply to Post #64
I'd happily use anything from CC Moore.
Mainline I think you need to be more selective.
I'd happily use anything from CC Moore.
Mainline I think you need to be more selective.
In reply to Post #65
Ive had good sessions on live and xxx but nothing compared to the PT But thats only on my local waters may differ on others
Ive had good sessions on live and xxx but nothing compared to the PT But thats only on my local waters may differ on others
In reply to Post #60
On the over stocked day ticket/commercial type waters just about any standard of bait will catch, it when you fish a super rich natural type water that's when the difference between a “ Convenience or Quality “ bait shows up immediately.
I'm fishing a lake that's renowned for being practically impossible to catch anything during June/July/August due to the sheer amounts of natural food, everybody is struggling at the moment, bar one person. I noticed one guy is actually catching a few, what's he doing different – nothing, what's he using that's different – Rolls all his own bait!
I'm fishing a lake that's renowned for being practically impossible to catch anything during June/July/August due to the sheer amounts of natural food, everybody is struggling at the moment, bar one person. I noticed one guy is actually catching a few, what's he doing different – nothing, what's he using that's different – Rolls all his own bait!
I like super orange by scientific baits
In reply to Post #40
I have tride there pokernut , and the TS1, found the qualitry to be quite , good, have hd several fish on them
I have tride there pokernut , and the TS1, found the qualitry to be quite , good, have hd several fish on them
In reply to Post #70
Nash white chocolate, was an amazing bait for me.
Shame they stopped making it
Nash white chocolate, was an amazing bait for me.
Shame they stopped making it
In reply to Post #68
Well said Keith, you know
Well said Keith, you know
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