Car or van?
Guess it depends on many factors. I have kids although the car I have is not suitable for going fishing. Doesn't even fit 1/3 of my gear. So I'm looking at something that will offer more cubic feet inside. Either an SUV or a small van like a Berlingo. Ideally want an auto transmission as I never want to go back to manual, so that narrows things down when looking at vans, although a 2nd hand SUV could offer more bang for buck. Wouldn't go for a new car again but then the car market seems to be abnormal right now. Used cars going for more than new atm?
Any petrol heads recommend or offer any advice please? What have you got now and if you could choose again what would you have?
Guess it depends on many factors. I have kids although the car I have is not suitable for going fishing. Doesn't even fit 1/3 of my gear. So I'm looking at something that will offer more cubic feet inside. Either an SUV or a small van like a Berlingo. Ideally want an auto transmission as I never want to go back to manual, so that narrows things down when looking at vans, although a 2nd hand SUV could offer more bang for buck. Wouldn't go for a new car again but then the car market seems to be abnormal right now. Used cars going for more than new atm?
Any petrol heads recommend or offer any advice please? What have you got now and if you could choose again what would you have?
In reply to Post #1
I've got a long wheelbase transit connect but one thing to bare in mind is it only has two seats. Not an issue now but when my kids were younger I always bought vans that had three seats like a full sized transit or a dispatch.
Have you thought about a crew cab. Best of both worlds then. Ample room in the back for gear, plus two rows of seats for you and kids.
I've got a long wheelbase transit connect but one thing to bare in mind is it only has two seats. Not an issue now but when my kids were younger I always bought vans that had three seats like a full sized transit or a dispatch.
Have you thought about a crew cab. Best of both worlds then. Ample room in the back for gear, plus two rows of seats for you and kids.
In reply to Post #1
Get an estate mate, had loads over the years and they're very good. Can even put a big roof box on to get more space. Perfect for the family, fishing, carrying big loads, going the supermarket, going the tip, everything.
That said, I've got a Skoda Karoq SUV atm, and they too are very good.A bit of extra flexibility because the back seats come out.
Get an estate mate, had loads over the years and they're very good. Can even put a big roof box on to get more space. Perfect for the family, fishing, carrying big loads, going the supermarket, going the tip, everything.
That said, I've got a Skoda Karoq SUV atm, and they too are very good.A bit of extra flexibility because the back seats come out.
I think it depends if you can load up and drive straight to and from the lake. If so I'd use a car, either big boot or estate. Nicer to drive, more petrol/non diesel options and you can go through the f****ing Rotherhithe tunnel.
If not and you need to have your gear parked up while you work then a van and lack of windows gives you better piece of mind.
If not and you need to have your gear parked up while you work then a van and lack of windows gives you better piece of mind.
In reply to Post #1
Estate will fill all your needs. Get the comfort and luxaries off a car with additional space for as much fishing gear you can throw at it. Cost obviously also plays a part
Estate will fill all your needs. Get the comfort and luxaries off a car with additional space for as much fishing gear you can throw at it. Cost obviously also plays a part
Van, use a ramp and just wheel your loaded up barrow straight into it.
Sod having a car anymore. Even an estate. Having to go through that rigmarole of folding down the seats, loading the car one bit by one and then dismantling your barrow. With windows so everyone can see your kit inside. That's not for me.
Sod having a car anymore. Even an estate. Having to go through that rigmarole of folding down the seats, loading the car one bit by one and then dismantling your barrow. With windows so everyone can see your kit inside. That's not for me.
In reply to Post #1
As you have kids , as do I. We'll 1 kid and a missus.
So I needed at least one if not two rear seats for a mate etc.
Look up 'wheelchair vans' on eBay.
I ended up with a Peugeot expert with a rear ramp
Windows, 2 rear seats . And can barrow straight on. No Vat and low mileage and price too.
As you have kids , as do I. We'll 1 kid and a missus.
So I needed at least one if not two rear seats for a mate etc.
Look up 'wheelchair vans' on eBay.
I ended up with a Peugeot expert with a rear ramp
Windows, 2 rear seats . And can barrow straight on. No Vat and low mileage and price too.
In reply to Post #7
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224807447890
But this is more like.mine.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/294785070812
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224807447890
But this is more like.mine.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/294785070812
In reply to Post #1
Ive got a Transit Custom M-Sport, i love it, its the longest ive ever kept a vehicle (5yrs)
two sets in front, 3 seats in crew cab, then bulk head and loads room in the rear for whatever.
remove seats and bulks head, stupid amount of room for loads of fishing gear (especially when going to France), two racebikes, generator, tyre warmers and all the kit i need for tracks
190BHP, got all the toys, blue tooth, sat nav, electric everything...blah blah
would i buy another...YES
only down side is the speeding restrictions on vans
Ive got a Transit Custom M-Sport, i love it, its the longest ive ever kept a vehicle (5yrs)
two sets in front, 3 seats in crew cab, then bulk head and loads room in the rear for whatever.
remove seats and bulks head, stupid amount of room for loads of fishing gear (especially when going to France), two racebikes, generator, tyre warmers and all the kit i need for tracks
190BHP, got all the toys, blue tooth, sat nav, electric everything...blah blah
would i buy another...YES
only down side is the speeding restrictions on vans
In reply to Post #9
Had my eye on one of these a while now, same configuration as you have.
Price at the minute though is hefty
Good looking van though
Had my eye on one of these a while now, same configuration as you have.
Price at the minute though is hefty
Good looking van though
In reply to Post #10
yeah mate, love it, mines the blue one.
i cant fault it in anyway. drives like a large car, does average 38mph, i can get 45 ish on motorways
yeah mate, love it, mines the blue one.
i cant fault it in anyway. drives like a large car, does average 38mph, i can get 45 ish on motorways
In reply to Post #7
I know someone whose got a wheelchair van,it's a skoda roomster, all he does is open the door and wheel up his kit ..
Myself ,and I'd get another in a heartbeat is a Honda Crv,best all round family workhorse I have owned,since my redblock 940se Volvo which I had for 12 years.
Goes anywhere,pretty much ,will get you around safely when roads are poor ,icy or snow ,across fields,campsites,shooting parties all sorts, but big enough,to not get bullied of the road in summertime by Chelsea tractors..taking up narrow lanes .
My kit goes in lovely, barrow goes in fully assembled ,great vehicle, if you can find an old mk1 ,get one..!
I know someone whose got a wheelchair van,it's a skoda roomster, all he does is open the door and wheel up his kit ..
Myself ,and I'd get another in a heartbeat is a Honda Crv,best all round family workhorse I have owned,since my redblock 940se Volvo which I had for 12 years.
Goes anywhere,pretty much ,will get you around safely when roads are poor ,icy or snow ,across fields,campsites,shooting parties all sorts, but big enough,to not get bullied of the road in summertime by Chelsea tractors..taking up narrow lanes .
My kit goes in lovely, barrow goes in fully assembled ,great vehicle, if you can find an old mk1 ,get one..!
In reply to Post #1
It's a van for me. VW Caddy. When fishing at my syndicate in the uk I've got a powerporter mk8 and a ramp. Just need to load up the barrow and run it up the ramp. Do need to take the handle of though but it's a 1 minute job. Fishing in France we use a Transit for two. No barrows needed as we've alway driven to the swims to unload and then park the van. I leave all the uk gear in the caddy on the barrow. No side windows and blackout panels on the rear.
It's a van for me. VW Caddy. When fishing at my syndicate in the uk I've got a powerporter mk8 and a ramp. Just need to load up the barrow and run it up the ramp. Do need to take the handle of though but it's a 1 minute job. Fishing in France we use a Transit for two. No barrows needed as we've alway driven to the swims to unload and then park the van. I leave all the uk gear in the caddy on the barrow. No side windows and blackout panels on the rear.
In reply to Post #1
Mitsubish LWB Shogun, nothing compares, you will never get stuck! You can get the Mk 8 powerporter in, I just got some pieces of wood cut to make a ramp. I bought mine in the UK for £5K with 60,000 miles on it and drove it to France where it is now registered. Been in awe of it since I bought it 2 years ago.
Mitsubish LWB Shogun, nothing compares, you will never get stuck! You can get the Mk 8 powerporter in, I just got some pieces of wood cut to make a ramp. I bought mine in the UK for £5K with 60,000 miles on it and drove it to France where it is now registered. Been in awe of it since I bought it 2 years ago.
In reply to Post #9
Im curious everyone that mentions to buy a van on here. Are you all using the van as your normal car or is the van also used for work etc?
I can't get to grips why anyone would choose a van over a standard suv/estate etc if they don't use it for work also? For a daily a van is slow, not nearly as nice to drive, noisy, low fuel consumption, higher tax bracket depending what you comparing it to, a mission to get MOT'd and as mentioned more restrictions in place. Parking/driving it in narrow country streets also not ideal. In general insurance also a lot higher.
Not knocking anyones choice each to their own genuinely asking to see if people actually has it as their main family car if not needed for work. Appreciate you get lots of space but not like you fishing every day 😂😂
Im curious everyone that mentions to buy a van on here. Are you all using the van as your normal car or is the van also used for work etc?
I can't get to grips why anyone would choose a van over a standard suv/estate etc if they don't use it for work also? For a daily a van is slow, not nearly as nice to drive, noisy, low fuel consumption, higher tax bracket depending what you comparing it to, a mission to get MOT'd and as mentioned more restrictions in place. Parking/driving it in narrow country streets also not ideal. In general insurance also a lot higher.
Not knocking anyones choice each to their own genuinely asking to see if people actually has it as their main family car if not needed for work. Appreciate you get lots of space but not like you fishing every day 😂😂
In reply to Post #15
depends what van you get i guess
i use mine for daily driving
depends what van you get i guess
i use mine for daily driving
In reply to Post #15
I use my Caddy for work, but even if I didn't I'd probably still have one for fishing. It's a shed on wheels.
Family and fishing vehicles should be kept separate if possible.
I use my Caddy for work, but even if I didn't I'd probably still have one for fishing. It's a shed on wheels.
Family and fishing vehicles should be kept separate if possible.
In reply to Post #17
un less its a tarts van like mine
un less its a tarts van like mine
In reply to Post #16
So its not used for work and your main family car?
Appreciate you have a top spec transit but all my original comments stand. Your van is well specced in van terms but compared to a decent suv or something like lets say a vw amarok surely it can't compete bar the additional space?
Like i said each to their own. Ive driven lots of vans nice high seat position etc but terrible to drive every day. Even my amarok v6 i bought for silly money thought would fill the gap between family/camping/fishing etc but again driving 100 miles plus a day it was noisy and although as far as pick ups go top of the food chain not nearly as nice as a decent car.
Needless to say that went also lol. Now have my dream car that only my wife drives lol as I use her 335d touring for family/fishing 😂 Its on the smaller side of estates but still fits everything i could ever throw at it. Bar you have to play tetris if i take my son with but even though we have roof rack and toe bar fitted not once had to use it.
So its not used for work and your main family car?
Appreciate you have a top spec transit but all my original comments stand. Your van is well specced in van terms but compared to a decent suv or something like lets say a vw amarok surely it can't compete bar the additional space?
Like i said each to their own. Ive driven lots of vans nice high seat position etc but terrible to drive every day. Even my amarok v6 i bought for silly money thought would fill the gap between family/camping/fishing etc but again driving 100 miles plus a day it was noisy and although as far as pick ups go top of the food chain not nearly as nice as a decent car.
Needless to say that went also lol. Now have my dream car that only my wife drives lol as I use her 335d touring for family/fishing 😂 Its on the smaller side of estates but still fits everything i could ever throw at it. Bar you have to play tetris if i take my son with but even though we have roof rack and toe bar fitted not once had to use it.
In reply to Post #19
yes mate, i use it for work, family, fishing, trackdays, everything really.
I had a top spec Range Rover Autobiography before, and i'll be honest, i prefer the M-Sport van for the simple fact, it has such brilliant multiple uses.
Ive had an SUV also, decent motors, but for what i want a van for suits me perfectly, and the MPH is probably on par or better than a V6
Ive never found the drive poor, not on par with an 80K rangey, granted, but ive not got one complaint about the van ive got.
yes mate, i use it for work, family, fishing, trackdays, everything really.
I had a top spec Range Rover Autobiography before, and i'll be honest, i prefer the M-Sport van for the simple fact, it has such brilliant multiple uses.
Ive had an SUV also, decent motors, but for what i want a van for suits me perfectly, and the MPH is probably on par or better than a V6
Ive never found the drive poor, not on par with an 80K rangey, granted, but ive not got one complaint about the van ive got.
In reply to Post #20
Ah but that's my point and what im trying to get around. You use your van for work also and something like track days so makes perfect sense for you.
But saying that the op poster asked for advice for a family car that can also be used for fishing. His circumstances is vastly different to yours wouldn't you say?
Ah but that's my point and what im trying to get around. You use your van for work also and something like track days so makes perfect sense for you.
But saying that the op poster asked for advice for a family car that can also be used for fishing. His circumstances is vastly different to yours wouldn't you say?
In reply to Post #16
Same, people don't realise the new higher spec customs are closer to a car than a van. Can't fault mine.
I can't drive or be a passenger in a car now, feels bloody terrifying down there!
I often drive high top Xlong wheel base vans so my little transit feels like a fiesta.
Don't understand sports cars or hatchbacks, seems a waste of money having a vehicle that's impractical and even estates while longer, lack height to access your stuff.
Pick ups, pony. No load space for the wheelbase.
I'd consider a galaxy or equivalent. They're often better than a caddy type van, which don't work very well with anything over about 1800mm.
If I was to buy again now it'd definitely be exactly what I have, I plan to convert it once it's paid for and buy another anyway
Same, people don't realise the new higher spec customs are closer to a car than a van. Can't fault mine.
I can't drive or be a passenger in a car now, feels bloody terrifying down there!
I often drive high top Xlong wheel base vans so my little transit feels like a fiesta.
Don't understand sports cars or hatchbacks, seems a waste of money having a vehicle that's impractical and even estates while longer, lack height to access your stuff.
Pick ups, pony. No load space for the wheelbase.
I'd consider a galaxy or equivalent. They're often better than a caddy type van, which don't work very well with anything over about 1800mm.
If I was to buy again now it'd definitely be exactly what I have, I plan to convert it once it's paid for and buy another anyway
In reply to Post #21
ummm...guess so mate, still would say, even minus two racebikes (which was the main reason i bought it) id still say the type of van ive got is brilliant.
Family holidays, perfect, especially when i take the dogs with us
Fishing, perfect, especially when two of us are travelling to France
daily use, you could argue they are large and parking isnt always as easy, but just dont let your wife reverse it
my vans full leather, 5 seats, the whole works
the only thing it hasnt got is auto box, but you can get them, they just werent available at the time i bought mine
ummm...guess so mate, still would say, even minus two racebikes (which was the main reason i bought it) id still say the type of van ive got is brilliant.
Family holidays, perfect, especially when i take the dogs with us
Fishing, perfect, especially when two of us are travelling to France
daily use, you could argue they are large and parking isnt always as easy, but just dont let your wife reverse it
my vans full leather, 5 seats, the whole works
the only thing it hasnt got is auto box, but you can get them, they just werent available at the time i bought mine
In reply to Post #22
i had a Mitsy pick up L200...brill bit of kit, but you can get alot in them
i had a Mitsy pick up L200...brill bit of kit, but you can get alot in them
In reply to Post #23
Lol so it's not just my wife that f*@"#s up every car she owns 😂😂😂😂. I was dreading giving her the 335 when i bought the amarok. Car was like new. Since then I have noticed every m sport alloys are curbed to hell lol.
Worst is now she drives my f10 m5 comp mostly as i use 335d for work if needed and fishing. Needless to say any marks on my car divorce papers will be filed
Lol so it's not just my wife that f*@"#s up every car she owns 😂😂😂😂. I was dreading giving her the 335 when i bought the amarok. Car was like new. Since then I have noticed every m sport alloys are curbed to hell lol.
Worst is now she drives my f10 m5 comp mostly as i use 335d for work if needed and fishing. Needless to say any marks on my car divorce papers will be filed
In reply to Post #25
my wife is banned from driving mine, she trashed the wheels on my Rangey
my wife is banned from driving mine, she trashed the wheels on my Rangey
Yep I agree. I had a mk8 golf convertible as the family car and a transit. 95% of the time I chose to drive the transit. In fact on the odd occasion I took my car training for example, the other people in class didn't realise it was me in the car park as I was only ever in my transit. It was just as nice to drive, gave probably the same fuel economy and had just as many toys as the golf.
With regards to parking and narrow roads etc. if you park a transit or a t5/6 next to a Range Rover there's actually not that much size difference. Not enough to have any effect on actual real world usage.
With regards to parking and narrow roads etc. if you park a transit or a t5/6 next to a Range Rover there's actually not that much size difference. Not enough to have any effect on actual real world usage.
In reply to Post #26
Don't understand how they do it. Worst is women car insurance cheaper then mens 😅😅😅
Don't understand how they do it. Worst is women car insurance cheaper then mens 😅😅😅
In reply to Post #24
I really fancy a ranger with the box on the back, can you actually get 6 foot in them style of trucks?
I really fancy a ranger with the box on the back, can you actually get 6 foot in them style of trucks?
In reply to Post #19
I've got a Mercedes Vito Dualiner which is the car version of the panel van, 5 seats, glazed all round and fully trimmed out. The 3 rear seats fold and tilt forward or can be completely removed easily, mine stay in the garage. Insurance is £250 ish a year as in road fund licence. It's a 3L V6 diesel auto, and at about 260 bhp it goes rather nicely and i can get 40 mpg on a run. I had 3 estates prior to this and the van is so much more practical.
I've got a Mercedes Vito Dualiner which is the car version of the panel van, 5 seats, glazed all round and fully trimmed out. The 3 rear seats fold and tilt forward or can be completely removed easily, mine stay in the garage. Insurance is £250 ish a year as in road fund licence. It's a 3L V6 diesel auto, and at about 260 bhp it goes rather nicely and i can get 40 mpg on a run. I had 3 estates prior to this and the van is so much more practical.
In reply to Post #30
Hi there is this still classed as a van or people carrier? Sounds ideal if it has additional dampening/windows etc. Do you still have to take it to a specialist garage for mot or can anyone do it?
Hi there is this still classed as a van or people carrier? Sounds ideal if it has additional dampening/windows etc. Do you still have to take it to a specialist garage for mot or can anyone do it?
In reply to Post #31
Insurance is a van, ferry is a large car, mot as a car, can also do do car speed limits.
Insurance is a van, ferry is a large car, mot as a car, can also do do car speed limits.
In reply to Post #32
Sounds like an excellent option for the original poster depending his budget of course👌
Sounds like an excellent option for the original poster depending his budget of course👌
In reply to Post #1
Either a Hilux Invincible X or a RAV4 PHEV, depending on whatever I decide to take home ......
And I know it'll never break down / get stuck......
Either a Hilux Invincible X or a RAV4 PHEV, depending on whatever I decide to take home ......
And I know it'll never break down / get stuck......
In reply to Post #20
Must be good money in trapping otters
Must be good money in trapping otters
In reply to Post #30
These actually look spot on.
These actually look spot on.
In reply to Post #35
lol
Ive never took a penny from trapping.
i do however charge alot to teach people how to kill, dress and cut up Beef, lam and Pork
lol
Ive never took a penny from trapping.
i do however charge alot to teach people how to kill, dress and cut up Beef, lam and Pork
In reply to Post #35
I actually know someone who has eaten otter,totally serious ,not me I hasten to say...
(Off topic I know)..
I actually know someone who has eaten otter,totally serious ,not me I hasten to say...
(Off topic I know)..
In reply to Post #1
I had this same thought a while back, needed seats for kids etc. settled with a VW passat estate and absolutely spot on with my decision. Swallows my gear no worries at all and also very useful when having to do tip runs etc. I wouldnt hesitate to get another one after this. I think its all down to personal choice and what suits you best for your needs.
I had this same thought a while back, needed seats for kids etc. settled with a VW passat estate and absolutely spot on with my decision. Swallows my gear no worries at all and also very useful when having to do tip runs etc. I wouldnt hesitate to get another one after this. I think its all down to personal choice and what suits you best for your needs.
In reply to Post #1
I nick my wife's Nissan Quashqai to go fishing. Huge in the back with the seats down, high ground clearance (I take it across fields and over flood banks when I fish the Trent), 50-60mpg and £20 a year tax. Driven it 1000 miles to the South of France several times with the kids and all our gear plus 4 bikes on the back and it still did 50mpg.
We don't usually keep cars more than 3 years, but we've had it nearly 4 now and will be keeping it as it's so practical and versatile, plus really comfortable.
I nick my wife's Nissan Quashqai to go fishing. Huge in the back with the seats down, high ground clearance (I take it across fields and over flood banks when I fish the Trent), 50-60mpg and £20 a year tax. Driven it 1000 miles to the South of France several times with the kids and all our gear plus 4 bikes on the back and it still did 50mpg.
We don't usually keep cars more than 3 years, but we've had it nearly 4 now and will be keeping it as it's so practical and versatile, plus really comfortable.
In reply to Post #37
What do you dress them up in?
What do you dress them up in?
In reply to Post #1
I have an old X-trail which is brilliant. I keep a bit of kit permanently In the boot - bedchair and barrow with mat over the top. I fold one seat down and can get the rest of my gear in, rucksack, rods, Brolly, bait, food etc. can still get a passenger in the front and 2 kids in the back if I need to.
I totally understand the practicality if being able to wheel a loaded barrow into a van, but I could t justify a van purely for fishing, with the lack of seats etc.
I have an old X-trail which is brilliant. I keep a bit of kit permanently In the boot - bedchair and barrow with mat over the top. I fold one seat down and can get the rest of my gear in, rucksack, rods, Brolly, bait, food etc. can still get a passenger in the front and 2 kids in the back if I need to.
I totally understand the practicality if being able to wheel a loaded barrow into a van, but I could t justify a van purely for fishing, with the lack of seats etc.
In reply to Post #40
Diesel 1.5?
Diesel 1.5?
In reply to Post #41
the term "dress" is to remove hide, skin, de hair, eviscerate, break down into primals
the term "dress" is to remove hide, skin, de hair, eviscerate, break down into primals
In reply to Post #29
Always take holdall with me when car shopping. Couldn't fit holdall in back of ranger. Only way I could fit was in cab by putting passenger seat back and putting it across from back drivers side to passenger footwell. Currently drive a petrol AWD Sportage which fits everything in with ease.
Always take holdall with me when car shopping. Couldn't fit holdall in back of ranger. Only way I could fit was in cab by putting passenger seat back and putting it across from back drivers side to passenger footwell. Currently drive a petrol AWD Sportage which fits everything in with ease.
In reply to Post #45
So I can't have one just because I can't afford one now then, can't get the rods in either, I'd like a big suv ideally.
So I can't have one just because I can't afford one now then, can't get the rods in either, I'd like a big suv ideally.
In reply to Post #44
Yeah we believe you,you have got stuffed animals dressed up and they are your fwends
Yeah we believe you,you have got stuffed animals dressed up and they are your fwends
In reply to Post #47
no, i just eat them
no, i just eat them
In reply to Post #48
In reply to Post #31
I have a Renault Trafic van with a second row of seats short wheel base so fits in a normal parking space. We have 3 kids, and a dog so just means space is never an issue. Can fit all our bikes in the back for a day out and rear seats fold down to make a bed so can be used as a basic camper (no kitchen etc).
That size van (same as transit) can go to a normal garage for MOT as below the weight threshold. It's old so MPG is ~33 so always a downside.
But I like that it has rubber floors so easy to sweep and mop out, plus robust interior so kids can't trash it easily.
For fishing can just wheel the barrow in with rods attached.
We have a Renault scenic also but both cars used daily.
I have a Renault Trafic van with a second row of seats short wheel base so fits in a normal parking space. We have 3 kids, and a dog so just means space is never an issue. Can fit all our bikes in the back for a day out and rear seats fold down to make a bed so can be used as a basic camper (no kitchen etc).
That size van (same as transit) can go to a normal garage for MOT as below the weight threshold. It's old so MPG is ~33 so always a downside.
But I like that it has rubber floors so easy to sweep and mop out, plus robust interior so kids can't trash it easily.
For fishing can just wheel the barrow in with rods attached.
We have a Renault scenic also but both cars used daily.
In reply to Post #45
Looked at a Sportage yesterday. The problem right now is buying a used car is a really bad time given the way the market has swung due to Covid shaking it up. They say it should normalise by May but we'll see.
Like the idea of a VW Passat estate as someone mentioned.
I think I'm leaning away from a van given the very valid points around using it to commute to work, family expeditions and more.
Really appreciate all comments on this thread. It's certainly helping.
Looked at a Sportage yesterday. The problem right now is buying a used car is a really bad time given the way the market has swung due to Covid shaking it up. They say it should normalise by May but we'll see.
Like the idea of a VW Passat estate as someone mentioned.
I think I'm leaning away from a van given the very valid points around using it to commute to work, family expeditions and more.
Really appreciate all comments on this thread. It's certainly helping.
In reply to Post #51
whatever yo u buy, has to suit you and your family
Been a decent thread actually
whatever yo u buy, has to suit you and your family
Been a decent thread actually
In reply to Post #51
Prices are starting to drop back, but it won't really change massively until the supply of new cars gets back to normal - which could be a while yet!
Also, it depends what you mean by normal - lots of cars are 5/6k more than this time last year, its going to be a long time until that undoes itself. But then if you are trading something in, that will also be dropping as well.
Prices are starting to drop back, but it won't really change massively until the supply of new cars gets back to normal - which could be a while yet!
Also, it depends what you mean by normal - lots of cars are 5/6k more than this time last year, its going to be a long time until that undoes itself. But then if you are trading something in, that will also be dropping as well.
In reply to Post #51
Sportage probably a good shout for fishing/family compromise.
It's worth checking with any fishing vehicle that you can get bedchair, barrow and a few other bits and bobs in the boot without needing to put seats down. Personally I find it really useful to be able to have all my kit and still have 1/2 rear seats available for ferrying kids about either on the way to it from the lake. The x-trail isn't a big vehicle but the boot is decent and allows this.
Sportage probably a good shout for fishing/family compromise.
It's worth checking with any fishing vehicle that you can get bedchair, barrow and a few other bits and bobs in the boot without needing to put seats down. Personally I find it really useful to be able to have all my kit and still have 1/2 rear seats available for ferrying kids about either on the way to it from the lake. The x-trail isn't a big vehicle but the boot is decent and allows this.
In reply to Post #54
Anybody tried a 7 seat Kodiaq ? Looks like a people carrier that with seats folded holds 2000 litres of gear.
Anybody tried a 7 seat Kodiaq ? Looks like a people carrier that with seats folded holds 2000 litres of gear.
In reply to Post #43
Yep. I don't like diesels in general, but it's spot on.
Yep. I don't like diesels in general, but it's spot on.
In reply to Post #51
I still drive a VW Golf.
I can 2 peoples gear in there for 2 days, obviously me driving, mate in the passenger seat and Sky in the back seat.
I don't know if a VW Golf Estate would suit you?
I still drive a VW Golf.
I can 2 peoples gear in there for 2 days, obviously me driving, mate in the passenger seat and Sky in the back seat.
I don't know if a VW Golf Estate would suit you?
In reply to Post #57
You've got Sky in the back of your golf?
Now that's impressive
You've got Sky in the back of your golf?
Now that's impressive
In reply to Post #58
Yes Mate. She sits in the rear drivers side passenger seat.
With half the rear seat folded down I get tackle in the boot, along with 1 bedchair, and the other in the rear passenger footwear. The rod holdalls are loaded in the rear hatch and come through the middle.
My mate was surprised we could get everything in there as we normally used his van, but when it was written off we had to use my car.
Yes Mate. She sits in the rear drivers side passenger seat.
With half the rear seat folded down I get tackle in the boot, along with 1 bedchair, and the other in the rear passenger footwear. The rod holdalls are loaded in the rear hatch and come through the middle.
My mate was surprised we could get everything in there as we normally used his van, but when it was written off we had to use my car.
In reply to Post #59
Such a compromise all time. Trying to have a decent car not constantly covered in crap!
Im torn with same but im tight and fuel is costly so the big vans are no the option for me personally even though i'd love a VW T5 & Ford Custom & the like.
4x4 as i go over some rough tracks/farmers fields.
30 -40MPG in the big vans compared to 50-60 + for an estate /SUV ......
Such a compromise all time. Trying to have a decent car not constantly covered in crap!
Im torn with same but im tight and fuel is costly so the big vans are no the option for me personally even though i'd love a VW T5 & Ford Custom & the like.
4x4 as i go over some rough tracks/farmers fields.
30 -40MPG in the big vans compared to 50-60 + for an estate /SUV ......
In reply to Post #55
Ive got the Seat Tarraco with 7 seats, pretty, much the same vehicle from the VW group.
Lovely motor to drive, a great family vehicle but I wouldn't say its very spacious, the 2 seats that pop out the floor take up so much room in the boot. Prob better off looking at a 5 seat version.
I can get just about as much gear in my 2003 Nissan Primera with the seats folded down.
Ive got the Seat Tarraco with 7 seats, pretty, much the same vehicle from the VW group.
Lovely motor to drive, a great family vehicle but I wouldn't say its very spacious, the 2 seats that pop out the floor take up so much room in the boot. Prob better off looking at a 5 seat version.
I can get just about as much gear in my 2003 Nissan Primera with the seats folded down.
In reply to Post #61
Ive got a 2015 VW caddy - had a combo before that and a 3 series estate before that - mujch prefer the van but hard to justify if you want to ferry the kids about as well then the estate is prob the better option
Personally I love it much like others I have a motorbike ramp and wheel the power porter in and out
In fact due to the crazy market and used vehicles I could get my money back if I sold it today
Ive got a 2015 VW caddy - had a combo before that and a 3 series estate before that - mujch prefer the van but hard to justify if you want to ferry the kids about as well then the estate is prob the better option
Personally I love it much like others I have a motorbike ramp and wheel the power porter in and out
In fact due to the crazy market and used vehicles I could get my money back if I sold it today
In reply to Post #1
I don't have the parking space where i live or i would 100% go for a cheap bangers of a van for my fishing gear and then have a nicer small car for running about it.
I currently have a for Kuga which is great for fishing and a good balance for family/ fishing use as the seats drop easily and give enough room.
I don't have the parking space where i live or i would 100% go for a cheap bangers of a van for my fishing gear and then have a nicer small car for running about it.
I currently have a for Kuga which is great for fishing and a good balance for family/ fishing use as the seats drop easily and give enough room.
Ever since i bought a van purely for fishing i woudnt go back to any type of car for carrying anything that gets dirty/smelly ... however I am different to some of the other guys, i would always want a car/s also
In reply to Post #64
when i had my Rangey, i also had a T5...i use the T5 purely for fishing and racing bikes...i found myself not using the rangey at all, only trouble was, i couldnt take clients out in the t5 with it sticking of dogs, fishing kit, petrol etc
so, when i looked at the M-sport, i did everything that both vehicles could....
flogged T5, flogged rangey, bought M-Sport Transit, and got money in back pocket...happy days
when i had my Rangey, i also had a T5...i use the T5 purely for fishing and racing bikes...i found myself not using the rangey at all, only trouble was, i couldnt take clients out in the t5 with it sticking of dogs, fishing kit, petrol etc
so, when i looked at the M-sport, i did everything that both vehicles could....
flogged T5, flogged rangey, bought M-Sport Transit, and got money in back pocket...happy days
In reply to Post #65
i cant help it .... i like to have an element of choice for the occasion
i cant help it .... i like to have an element of choice for the occasion
In reply to Post #66
good skills mate.
i'll keep the racebike for hooligan mode
good skills mate.
i'll keep the racebike for hooligan mode
In reply to Post #67
Sorry real hooligans race on the iom, tracks are more forgiving, having said that I still managed to knock myself out and dislocate my thumd at brands. Sixty three now and still do more road miles on the bike than in the car.
Sorry real hooligans race on the iom, tracks are more forgiving, having said that I still managed to knock myself out and dislocate my thumd at brands. Sixty three now and still do more road miles on the bike than in the car.
In reply to Post #64
I went from a Corsa to a Van. I love my Berlingo, and has two booster seats in it for the school run, but next time round I'll probably hedge my bets and get an estate.
I went from a Corsa to a Van. I love my Berlingo, and has two booster seats in it for the school run, but next time round I'll probably hedge my bets and get an estate.
In reply to Post #68
i stand corrected...IOM lot aint right
Trackdays are fine if one is in the two lower groups, fast group tends to the more serious, including racers.
when racing, some of the BSB are in it....foook me, i thought i was decent
i stand corrected...IOM lot aint right
Trackdays are fine if one is in the two lower groups, fast group tends to the more serious, including racers.
when racing, some of the BSB are in it....foook me, i thought i was decent
In reply to Post #70
Yep, lots of guys soon realise that it wasn't thier bike that was slow after all after they hit the fast group. One lap of the iom should be enough to show any biker how talentless they are and just how skilled the racers are. Anyway would love to carry my fishing kit on the bike but its just not possible.
Yep, lots of guys soon realise that it wasn't thier bike that was slow after all after they hit the fast group. One lap of the iom should be enough to show any biker how talentless they are and just how skilled the racers are. Anyway would love to carry my fishing kit on the bike but its just not possible.
In reply to Post #57
Yes - would consider a VW Golf estate like a Passat. Probably a Passat over the two as I looks to hold more in space terms.
Like already mentioned, I need to ensure a wide bedchair can fit inside and have enough space for rod holdall down the side of it.
Quite like the look of an XC 60 or 90. Surprised no one has mentioned this yet as I thought they would be popular for a family/fishing vehicle.
Yes - would consider a VW Golf estate like a Passat. Probably a Passat over the two as I looks to hold more in space terms.
Like already mentioned, I need to ensure a wide bedchair can fit inside and have enough space for rod holdall down the side of it.
Quite like the look of an XC 60 or 90. Surprised no one has mentioned this yet as I thought they would be popular for a family/fishing vehicle.
In reply to Post #72
Wifes got an XC60, nice machine, fair bit of room, but id defo go for the XC90 for that extra bit of room
Wifes got an XC60, nice machine, fair bit of room, but id defo go for the XC90 for that extra bit of room
In reply to Post #73
I've gone from Transit Connect LWB to a Discovery 4 and now own a Skoda Superb Estate - Loads of room and good MPG.Only gripes i have are that i have to dismantle my Barrow and it is a low Car to get in and out of.
I've gone from Transit Connect LWB to a Discovery 4 and now own a Skoda Superb Estate - Loads of room and good MPG.Only gripes i have are that i have to dismantle my Barrow and it is a low Car to get in and out of.
In reply to Post #53
I certainly wouldn't buy 2nd hand, I've just sold my Mustang for 6k more than I bought it for in February, we ordered a new car in September and it's a 6 month waiting list, order now it's over 12 months. Even more for Hybrid and electric.
We bought our car brand new for 8k less than ones on the forecourt.
I certainly wouldn't buy 2nd hand, I've just sold my Mustang for 6k more than I bought it for in February, we ordered a new car in September and it's a 6 month waiting list, order now it's over 12 months. Even more for Hybrid and electric.
We bought our car brand new for 8k less than ones on the forecourt.
In reply to Post #75
Interesting! What did you buy out of curiosity?
Interesting! What did you buy out of curiosity?
In reply to Post #61
Yes interesting. The only trouble with the Kodiaq is that only the more basic versions come with 5 seats and its not an option on the others to have anything but 7.
Yes interesting. The only trouble with the Kodiaq is that only the more basic versions come with 5 seats and its not an option on the others to have anything but 7.
In reply to Post #72
Have you looked at the merc e class estate ? Will swallow a wide bed chair with plenty of room for all your other gear 👍
Have you looked at the merc e class estate ? Will swallow a wide bed chair with plenty of room for all your other gear 👍
In reply to Post #9
Frenzy ... is that the MS-RT you got ?
I´m planning on getting a Ford Transit Connect L2, latest model(2021/22), and wonder if anyone has one ???
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated
Wonder if i can get a bedchair(unfolded)in the back ?
Any other issues i should look out for ?
Frenzy ... is that the MS-RT you got ?
I´m planning on getting a Ford Transit Connect L2, latest model(2021/22), and wonder if anyone has one ???
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated
Wonder if i can get a bedchair(unfolded)in the back ?Any other issues i should look out for ?
In reply to Post #79
yes mate
yes mate
In reply to Post #76
Got told off by my accountant as the Mustang wasn't tax efficient, we've gone for the new VW ID4, we don't do a huge amount of mileage daily so it makes sense .
Got the 7 seat mum bus for fishing or days out.
Got told off by my accountant as the Mustang wasn't tax efficient, we've gone for the new VW ID4, we don't do a huge amount of mileage daily so it makes sense .
Got the 7 seat mum bus for fishing or days out.
In reply to Post #77
Still a huge boot, I had the 7 seater and could fit all my stuff in eaasily
Still a huge boot, I had the 7 seater and could fit all my stuff in eaasily
Being old I want comfort and being tight I want good economy, bmw fan boy both cars and bike so my fishing wagon is a 320d estate, lovely drive and easily takes all I need.
In reply to Post #83
I have been looking at buying a Connect but price increases for vans plus the added VAT for the majority available meant that I was having to fork out more than what I could buy a well spec'd estate for.
After reading this thread I've now decided to go down the estate route because it will be my daily driver (lots of motorway miles) and also having owned BMW previously I've been looking at the 320 and 520.
Can you fit 12ft rods in easily and not poking up through the drivers area Goose? Was thinking if I were to take a fishing partner would they have rod holdalls etc between the driver and passenger?
I have been looking at buying a Connect but price increases for vans plus the added VAT for the majority available meant that I was having to fork out more than what I could buy a well spec'd estate for.
After reading this thread I've now decided to go down the estate route because it will be my daily driver (lots of motorway miles) and also having owned BMW previously I've been looking at the 320 and 520.
Can you fit 12ft rods in easily and not poking up through the drivers area Goose? Was thinking if I were to take a fishing partner would they have rod holdalls etc between the driver and passenger?
In reply to Post #84
330d msport Touring has been my wagon of choice for some time (3x different variants) - not very good on potholed tracks but at least I get to the lake quicker than most others . . .
Can easily fit all my gear in the boot with the rear seats down - my 12ft 3x rod sleeve with a 13ft utility does need to be positioned centrally between the two front seats but it doesn't extend any further than my peripheral vision so is no probs . . depending on how much gear / how you pack the car you could put your rods in at an angle to negate this . .
330d msport Touring has been my wagon of choice for some time (3x different variants) - not very good on potholed tracks but at least I get to the lake quicker than most others . . .
Can easily fit all my gear in the boot with the rear seats down - my 12ft 3x rod sleeve with a 13ft utility does need to be positioned centrally between the two front seats but it doesn't extend any further than my peripheral vision so is no probs . . depending on how much gear / how you pack the car you could put your rods in at an angle to negate this . .
In reply to Post #84
I also have a 320d estate and it fits everything easily; only issue I have is that it is fairly low and not great at getting through very potted tracks. I'm in the market to replace with something higher off the ground.
I also have a 320d estate and it fits everything easily; only issue I have is that it is fairly low and not great at getting through very potted tracks. I'm in the market to replace with something higher off the ground.
In reply to Post #86
Doing a lot more river fishing these days so I've come to the same conclusion - that and poorly maintained syndicate tracks . . also want a decent daily driver so looking at X5 40ds at the moment - just waiting for the new car market to pick up so that used prices return to sane levels . .
Doing a lot more river fishing these days so I've come to the same conclusion - that and poorly maintained syndicate tracks . . also want a decent daily driver so looking at X5 40ds at the moment - just waiting for the new car market to pick up so that used prices return to sane levels . .
In reply to Post #85
Thanks for the feedback, thought I'd get some strange looks rocking up to the dealership with my holdall and stuffing it through the back just to check, although i may still do this anyway
Going from a 2 series previously I feel your pain with the potholes
Thanks for the feedback, thought I'd get some strange looks rocking up to the dealership with my holdall and stuffing it through the back just to check, although i may still do this anyway
Going from a 2 series previously I feel your pain with the potholes
In reply to Post #88
Out of interest does anyone use an Octavia Scout? I've always had my eye on getting one, hoping it will be the best of both worlds between estate and 4x4. Wondered if anyone uses one and has any feedback.
Out of interest does anyone use an Octavia Scout? I've always had my eye on getting one, hoping it will be the best of both worlds between estate and 4x4. Wondered if anyone uses one and has any feedback.
In reply to Post #88
Only ever take my kit so can go in diagonally or front passenger seat moved fotward can get 13ft rods in.
Did try a top spec Honda crv 1.6d 4x4 160horse but weight transfer throwing it round corners put me off.
Only ever take my kit so can go in diagonally or front passenger seat moved fotward can get 13ft rods in.
Did try a top spec Honda crv 1.6d 4x4 160horse but weight transfer throwing it round corners put me off.
In reply to Post #88
Take your rod bag. I did this once and the salesman didn't bat an eyelid, all he wants is a sale.
Take your rod bag. I did this once and the salesman didn't bat an eyelid, all he wants is a sale.
In reply to Post #87
So this is where I'm at with the market. It's tipped to start normalising from May onwards. Toying with the idea of getting a run around, or a less expensive vehicle for a few years.
Lenders will start predicting if things will go back to how they were in the short term or if it will take longer. There's no certainty right now which is why I'm thinking go lower end for a few years. Ideally something around the £10k mark.
So this is where I'm at with the market. It's tipped to start normalising from May onwards. Toying with the idea of getting a run around, or a less expensive vehicle for a few years.
Lenders will start predicting if things will go back to how they were in the short term or if it will take longer. There's no certainty right now which is why I'm thinking go lower end for a few years. Ideally something around the £10k mark.
In reply to Post #91
Did that with the first 4 cars I bought and will be doing later this year when I down size my vehicle.
Did that with the first 4 cars I bought and will be doing later this year when I down size my vehicle.
In reply to Post #90
Why are you buying an SUV if you want to throw it around corners?
Why are you buying an SUV if you want to throw it around corners?
In reply to Post #94
I'm not, always liked the look of the crv and people say they are so versatile so was curious but having now driven one I'll stick with the estate.
I'm not, always liked the look of the crv and people say they are so versatile so was curious but having now driven one I'll stick with the estate.
In reply to Post #1
Suzuki Jimny for me.....
i can get all my kit in it (only do single nights) and i'll never get stuck
Suzuki Jimny for me.....
i can get all my kit in it (only do single nights) and i'll never get stuck
In reply to Post #94
That's why you need an X5 - vague pothole/off road capabilities plus you can still chuck it about within reason . . . and take more gear that you don't need!
That's why you need an X5 - vague pothole/off road capabilities plus you can still chuck it about within reason . . . and take more gear that you don't need!
In reply to Post #97
M50d variant mapped 500+bhp.
M50d variant mapped 500+bhp.
In reply to Post #1
Love my Peugeot 5008, massive inside with the added bonus of the front passenger seat folding flat. It's also high enough to drive over potholes.
Love my Peugeot 5008, massive inside with the added bonus of the front passenger seat folding flat. It's also high enough to drive over potholes.
In reply to Post #98
Just wondered with that much horsepower if you did get on the soft stuff whether you would go forward or towards Australia.
Just wondered with that much horsepower if you did get on the soft stuff whether you would go forward or towards Australia.
My CRV has done me proud. 2 litre petrol. Highly recommended.
In reply to Post #101
2007 honda crv 2.2 diesel for me , loads of room averages 38mpg , nice torquey engine cost £2500 had 130000miles when I got and has been trouble free since I've owned it, currently on 143000 miles.
2007 honda crv 2.2 diesel for me , loads of room averages 38mpg , nice torquey engine cost £2500 had 130000miles when I got and has been trouble free since I've owned it, currently on 143000 miles.
In reply to Post #102
Skoda Octavia Scout for me.
Loads of space, 4wheel drive. And 50 mpg.
Considerably cheaper than the Audi or VW equivalent.
Skoda Octavia Scout for me.
Loads of space, 4wheel drive. And 50 mpg.
Considerably cheaper than the Audi or VW equivalent.
In reply to Post #100
You would simply put it in the correct drive mode for the conditions.
You would simply put it in the correct drive mode for the conditions.
In reply to Post #50
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In reply to Post #1
For me I went from a 5 series touring, to a Berlingo van and now to an XC90.
Each have advantages and disadvantages.
For me I went from a 5 series touring, to a Berlingo van and now to an XC90.
Each have advantages and disadvantages.
In reply to Post #106
In your experience what would you say are the advantages and disadvantages of each?
In your experience what would you say are the advantages and disadvantages of each?
In reply to Post #96
Have you encountered the dreaded suzuki death wobble yet
Have you encountered the dreaded suzuki death wobble yet
In reply to Post #107
BMW 540i Touring XDrive
Advantage - comfort, performance, long load space
Disadvantage - shallow boot and tight on space if you have a lot of gear, especially a power porter, not really ideal for muddy tracks with low profile wheels/tyres and marginal off road capability with limited ground clearance.Expensive
Berlingo Van
Advantage - incredible space, can wheel a loaded power porter up a ramp(rods off), good to drive for a van, economical and no need to worry when it gets dirty. Cheap to buy
Disadvantage - its a van, van driving position and no 3/4 vision. Heavy condensation on the inside of the windscreen in the mornings. Its a manual gearbox.
Volvo XC90
Advantage - Comfort, huge load area, economical(depending on engine) good off road capability.
Disadvantage - Expensive
The Berlingo made the best fishing vehicle provided you can live with restricted rear/side vision and the more upright driving position.
The XC90 blows the BMW away for space and off road practicality
BMW 540i Touring XDrive
Advantage - comfort, performance, long load space
Disadvantage - shallow boot and tight on space if you have a lot of gear, especially a power porter, not really ideal for muddy tracks with low profile wheels/tyres and marginal off road capability with limited ground clearance.Expensive
Berlingo Van
Advantage - incredible space, can wheel a loaded power porter up a ramp(rods off), good to drive for a van, economical and no need to worry when it gets dirty. Cheap to buy
Disadvantage - its a van, van driving position and no 3/4 vision. Heavy condensation on the inside of the windscreen in the mornings. Its a manual gearbox.
Volvo XC90
Advantage - Comfort, huge load area, economical(depending on engine) good off road capability.
Disadvantage - Expensive
The Berlingo made the best fishing vehicle provided you can live with restricted rear/side vision and the more upright driving position.
The XC90 blows the BMW away for space and off road practicality
In reply to Post #109
Can't compare a 540i to an xc90 though, a fairer comparison would be to an x5.
Can't compare a 540i to an xc90 though, a fairer comparison would be to an x5.
In reply to Post #109
Thats very useful thank you. What I can gather from this thread seems the ideal route would be your preferred choice of car for daily/general driving and a van just for fishing due to the convenience of it. Unless money is no issue though compromises must be made one way or another
Thats very useful thank you. What I can gather from this thread seems the ideal route would be your preferred choice of car for daily/general driving and a van just for fishing due to the convenience of it. Unless money is no issue though compromises must be made one way or another
In reply to Post #110
Well I can compare an X3 M40i to the XC90. as I changed it for the XC90, although I never used it for fishing as I had the van.
The X3 does not have quite as much space as the XC90, but its much better than the 540i touring as the roofline is higher, so you can get more stuff in. Performance is epic for a fishing vehicle, but the suspension is firm, so whilst it can go off road with ample road clearance, again the very low profile wheels/tyres limit its ability and the firm suspension will give you a work out over unmade roads and tracks.
The X3 would make a good fishing vehicle, just go for one of the less sporting versions.
Well I can compare an X3 M40i to the XC90. as I changed it for the XC90, although I never used it for fishing as I had the van.
The X3 does not have quite as much space as the XC90, but its much better than the 540i touring as the roofline is higher, so you can get more stuff in. Performance is epic for a fishing vehicle, but the suspension is firm, so whilst it can go off road with ample road clearance, again the very low profile wheels/tyres limit its ability and the firm suspension will give you a work out over unmade roads and tracks.
The X3 would make a good fishing vehicle, just go for one of the less sporting versions.
In reply to Post #111
For sure the best solution, money no object is a car for day to day and a small van for fishing.
For sure the best solution, money no object is a car for day to day and a small van for fishing.
In reply to Post #113
Yeah the xc90 even has more room than the x5, my ultimate fishing wagon would be the new defender lwb but to expensive.
Did consider a land cruiser amazon 20+ years ago as I was towing a boat but ended up with a shogun lwb.
Yeah the xc90 even has more room than the x5, my ultimate fishing wagon would be the new defender lwb but to expensive.
Did consider a land cruiser amazon 20+ years ago as I was towing a boat but ended up with a shogun lwb.
In reply to Post #114
All good providing you've got a dealership to fix the breakdowns local.
I'd go for the 20yr old Amazon - there would be no wars if it wasn't for Toyota lol
All good providing you've got a dealership to fix the breakdowns local.
I'd go for the 20yr old Amazon - there would be no wars if it wasn't for Toyota lol
In reply to Post #1
Single? I had a van and Porsche for weekends (I had a Cayman R). Married with kids now ... so it's a car (Estate). Can't get the kids in a van. Just got my new Audi RS4 Evant after a stupid long wait - it's the dog's nuts and has loads of room for the gear.
Single? I had a van and Porsche for weekends (I had a Cayman R). Married with kids now ... so it's a car (Estate). Can't get the kids in a van. Just got my new Audi RS4 Evant after a stupid long wait - it's the dog's nuts and has loads of room for the gear.
In reply to Post #116
In reply to Post #1
Difficult to suggest a car for someone without knowing their circumstances and thoughts on driving. A Ferrari ff would probably make decent fist of been a good fishing car, if you'd dare park it anywhere, as would a Berlingo
Pretty much every car I've owned, with a couple of exceptions, has been able to carry my gear, some more compromised than others. I've been driving a lwb Shogun for coming up 5 years, great for getting your gear in and traversing rough ground, not so much at the pumps though. On paper it's rubbish, but I quite like it, plenty of character, sadly lacking in most modern cars that just seem to want to isolate you from the road. I took my wifes Yeti up to the lake a couple of weeks ago, Whilst being a bit soulless, it felt like a sports car after driving the Shogun.
Difficult to suggest a car for someone without knowing their circumstances and thoughts on driving. A Ferrari ff would probably make decent fist of been a good fishing car, if you'd dare park it anywhere, as would a Berlingo
Pretty much every car I've owned, with a couple of exceptions, has been able to carry my gear, some more compromised than others. I've been driving a lwb Shogun for coming up 5 years, great for getting your gear in and traversing rough ground, not so much at the pumps though. On paper it's rubbish, but I quite like it, plenty of character, sadly lacking in most modern cars that just seem to want to isolate you from the road. I took my wifes Yeti up to the lake a couple of weeks ago, Whilst being a bit soulless, it felt like a sports car after driving the Shogun.
In reply to Post #118
How about a crew van - 2 rows of seats plus plenty of space behind. Lots of lads using them and all the manufacturers do them
How about a crew van - 2 rows of seats plus plenty of space behind. Lots of lads using them and all the manufacturers do them
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