With the folding of Nash bait, then Samir, that posh Henry guy, and now Mark Voosen all jumping ship, is the end coming for Nash?
Ive noticed that the stocks of their gear in the shops hasn't been great either. I haven't really got much of their stuff (only putty and a bushwacker) but i do like that they bring something a bit different to the other big companies, so I hope not, but it doesn't look great
Ive noticed that the stocks of their gear in the shops hasn't been great either. I haven't really got much of their stuff (only putty and a bushwacker) but i do like that they bring something a bit different to the other big companies, so I hope not, but it doesn't look great
This seems to be the word on the street but no idea if true
In reply to Post #1
Nash tackle has been like that for years, they inovated and some of the gear WAS quality of it's time.
However 20-25 years ago you could go to Climax Tackle and pick up end tackle, bait, luggage cheap as chips and there were bins of all sorts for 99p
It's always on sale because the big companies buy up everything with their gold account discounts.
I think I have two or three packets of old Nash hooks in the hook bank ( biscuit tiin in the loft) and some vintage bait flavourings.
Nash tackle has been like that for years, they inovated and some of the gear WAS quality of it's time.
However 20-25 years ago you could go to Climax Tackle and pick up end tackle, bait, luggage cheap as chips and there were bins of all sorts for 99p
It's always on sale because the big companies buy up everything with their gold account discounts.
I think I have two or three packets of old Nash hooks in the hook bank ( biscuit tiin in the loft) and some vintage bait flavourings.
In reply to Post #1
I didn't go, but I think they had a big stand at the big one which wouldn't make sense for them if they were closing surely.
I didn't go, but I think they had a big stand at the big one which wouldn't make sense for them if they were closing surely.
In reply to Post #1
Haven't they just brought out new reels.
Haven't they just brought out new reels.
I would.say theyre streamlining the business, getting all the big earners off the books....resetting the business and going again....covid gave alot companies a false sense of extraordinary growth, them new customers are now probably playing golf,flying drones or magnet fishing
In reply to Post #4
They did and i managed to pick up a couple of the Scope landing nets for a good price.
They did and i managed to pick up a couple of the Scope landing nets for a good price.
All sorts of Rumours flying around about.Nash. Cash flow problems
Consultants being owed money. I've noticed aswell there Social media and YouTube content has dried up a bit. But they have taken on Scott Lloyd as a consultant and he can't be cheap. Maybe one more roll of the dice.. Who knows..
Consultants being owed money. I've noticed aswell there Social media and YouTube content has dried up a bit. But they have taken on Scott Lloyd as a consultant and he can't be cheap. Maybe one more roll of the dice.. Who knows..
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Not sure really, just strikes me as that time of year for product launches so old stock being cleared and running low is pretty normal to me. I've been keeping a eye on Fox tackle boxes, same thing, low stock in most places, I assume a ship will be docking soon from China.
Not sure really, just strikes me as that time of year for product launches so old stock being cleared and running low is pretty normal to me. I've been keeping a eye on Fox tackle boxes, same thing, low stock in most places, I assume a ship will be docking soon from China.
I've never understood how Kevin Nash got off the hook for his involvment in the downfall of Carp Fishing. And kevin Maddocks, both of them sold the love of the sport for consumerism and profit. Two 70lb carp being stocked into a lake are the direct result of what Kevin Nash and others started. Materialistic cash grab, race to the bottom.
Danny Fairbrass seemed to always take the flack, but I think he has somewhat managed to turn it round by at least trying to give something back.
£2000 syndicates, rammed banks, crap foreign made tackle, bloated munter foreign fish, screaming louts in carp videos, Drum and bass. 10 hooks for £6, our sport run by corporations.
The death of Nash would be a step in the right direction.
Danny Fairbrass seemed to always take the flack, but I think he has somewhat managed to turn it round by at least trying to give something back.
£2000 syndicates, rammed banks, crap foreign made tackle, bloated munter foreign fish, screaming louts in carp videos, Drum and bass. 10 hooks for £6, our sport run by corporations.
The death of Nash would be a step in the right direction.
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More and more Korda stuff is finding it's way into my fishing, I actually like the fact I'm contributing to Embryo in a little way. I was a big Fox user 90s onwards until they tried to tie you into only using there gear with odd sized swivels instead of 8s. Yesterday I had a Fox Zig & Rig box next to my Korda rig safe, like chalk and cheese, the Fox just felt cheap.
Oddly I never really used anything much Nash, think I bought a few packs of the early fangs, that's about it. I did recently but a couple of the covers cheap, then realised odd sized foam compared to what I have (old Fox sizes). More tar for the 'spares box'
More and more Korda stuff is finding it's way into my fishing, I actually like the fact I'm contributing to Embryo in a little way. I was a big Fox user 90s onwards until they tried to tie you into only using there gear with odd sized swivels instead of 8s. Yesterday I had a Fox Zig & Rig box next to my Korda rig safe, like chalk and cheese, the Fox just felt cheap.
Oddly I never really used anything much Nash, think I bought a few packs of the early fangs, that's about it. I did recently but a couple of the covers cheap, then realised odd sized foam compared to what I have (old Fox sizes). More tar for the 'spares box'
In reply to Post #11
Bit Dramatic that.... but I'd blame the pair of them for the state of the country aswell..
Bit Dramatic that.... but I'd blame the pair of them for the state of the country aswell..
In reply to Post #11
To be fair, we have or at least had a lot to thank Kevin Nash for. If you go back 40 years, he really did produce some quality tackle almost on a cottage industry basis. It's a shame in some ways how things have turned out, but in my opinion, his tackle has been fairly poor quality for probably 25 years or so now they are clearly having problems and I feel for the guys that work there. The accounts are an absolute disaster, about as bad as it gets.
To be fair, we have or at least had a lot to thank Kevin Nash for. If you go back 40 years, he really did produce some quality tackle almost on a cottage industry basis. It's a shame in some ways how things have turned out, but in my opinion, his tackle has been fairly poor quality for probably 25 years or so now they are clearly having problems and I feel for the guys that work there. The accounts are an absolute disaster, about as bad as it gets.
In reply to Post #14
Well it's exactly the same thing. As soon as they persue profit, instead of what's right, everything gets worse for the end user.
Well it's exactly the same thing. As soon as they persue profit, instead of what's right, everything gets worse for the end user.
In reply to Post #13
Yes my mate bought your bed chair off you a few years ago, I seem to remember you saying Nash is gash 🤣 I'm not a fan either, although did pick up a ansh titan hide pro for cheap which I'm yet to use but seems great design and really light so will see soon how it goes and how long it lasts!
Yes my mate bought your bed chair off you a few years ago, I seem to remember you saying Nash is gash 🤣 I'm not a fan either, although did pick up a ansh titan hide pro for cheap which I'm yet to use but seems great design and really light so will see soon how it goes and how long it lasts!
The old titan bivvy was awesome, same as the scopex squid liver boiles. Most things since has been pretty meh. You can't go on forever.
I watched a YouTube Avid "product release", 90% of it is exactly the same as Temu stuff in an slightly different colour and 5 times the price. No suprise some of these companies are struggling
I watched a YouTube Avid "product release", 90% of it is exactly the same as Temu stuff in an slightly different colour and 5 times the price. No suprise some of these companies are struggling
In reply to Post #17
Was that an Indulgence Wideboy? How did he get on with it . . .I hated the thing lol!
Was that an Indulgence Wideboy? How did he get on with it . . .I hated the thing lol!
In reply to Post #18
There is speculation of an import duty being levied on the low cost items purchased from the likes of Temu, Aliexpress, etc. Personally, I don't have a problem cutting out the middleman and buying direct from China, rather than from someone who has done the same, but on a larger scale to sell on at a profit. Our tax hungry government doesn't see it that way though. Ultimately, everything is still going to made in Asia but we'll just be paying more for it.
There is speculation of an import duty being levied on the low cost items purchased from the likes of Temu, Aliexpress, etc. Personally, I don't have a problem cutting out the middleman and buying direct from China, rather than from someone who has done the same, but on a larger scale to sell on at a profit. Our tax hungry government doesn't see it that way though. Ultimately, everything is still going to made in Asia but we'll just be paying more for it.
In reply to Post #17
I had quite a few Titans over the years. A '94, '97, Viper, Viper TTFS, Viper TTFS Chameleon and a T4000. The '97 model in slippery eel was by far the best. The winter skin for it was amazing, it just clipped onto rings on the feet at the end of the legs and didn't need any extra pegs, genius idea.
Thinking about it, other than the Titans, I've hardly bought anything else from Nash in over 35 years of carping!
Edit: only other thing I can think I've bought from Nash, is their Cling-on unleaded leader, which I still use now and have another 3 spools of.
I had quite a few Titans over the years. A '94, '97, Viper, Viper TTFS, Viper TTFS Chameleon and a T4000. The '97 model in slippery eel was by far the best. The winter skin for it was amazing, it just clipped onto rings on the feet at the end of the legs and didn't need any extra pegs, genius idea.
Thinking about it, other than the Titans, I've hardly bought anything else from Nash in over 35 years of carping!
Edit: only other thing I can think I've bought from Nash, is their Cling-on unleaded leader, which I still use now and have another 3 spools of.
In reply to Post #21
I've still got my 93/94 titan it's never leaked like the later models, I still give it an airing once or twice a season, it's the one with silver poles, bit small now tho compared to current bivvys but the material on it is very good quality only downside it looks like a banana folded up compared to my tempest brolly lol
I've still got my 93/94 titan it's never leaked like the later models, I still give it an airing once or twice a season, it's the one with silver poles, bit small now tho compared to current bivvys but the material on it is very good quality only downside it looks like a banana folded up compared to my tempest brolly lol
In reply to Post #10
I bet Nash couldn't give one tbh.
Why would they want the hassle or rolling bait, market is far too competitive and profit margins will be crap compared to importing Chinese tackle
And, I have never had one problem with a Nash Bivvy
Trakker on the other hand 💩
I bet Nash couldn't give one tbh.
Why would they want the hassle or rolling bait, market is far too competitive and profit margins will be crap compared to importing Chinese tackle
And, I have never had one problem with a Nash Bivvy
Trakker on the other hand 💩
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Say what you Say about Nash. But they have lead from the front innervation wise. Going right back to the mid 80 s. What you see most tackle manufacturers producing these days Nash were the first. Rod bags for made up Rods. Rucksacks designed for anglers. Brollys that actually covered your bed. Titan shelters, sleep systems, retractable rods.( every company produces something simular ) Luv em or hate them Nash have been a big part of the scene for a long time now. And it would be terrible for innovation if they were to disappear of the map completely.
Still haven't forgiven them though... for the bivvy runway, flower pot bivvy heaters and rear end rod cushion..
Still haven't forgiven them though... for the bivvy runway, flower pot bivvy heaters and rear end rod cushion..
The original Titan's were hand made in the UK. To be fair to Nash they were making good kit. It was ruined when a certain company started outsourcing everything to China and trying to dominate the market. Other companies had no choice but to do the same to survive.
I've purchased quite a bit of the new Scope kit and I've been really impressed with the quality.
I think Nash will survive because they are innovative. Most manufacturers are just copying each other and therefore this is not sustainable.
I've purchased quite a bit of the new Scope kit and I've been really impressed with the quality.
I think Nash will survive because they are innovative. Most manufacturers are just copying each other and therefore this is not sustainable.
We need Nash even if you don't like the gear. Big companies innovating and ensuring the market is competitive. It would be good if they got back to the really core business and stopped launching new ranges every month with tat products - wind beaks, paths and such cack.
When you look at the actual innovated products there are some superb ground breaking ideas along the way. Not a fan of the gangsta urban route they have taken but each to their own and I hope the live long and prosper.
When you look at the actual innovated products there are some superb ground breaking ideas along the way. Not a fan of the gangsta urban route they have taken but each to their own and I hope the live long and prosper.
In reply to Post #26
It was ruined when a certain company started outsourcing everything to China and trying to dominate the market. Other companies had no choice but to do the same to survive.
100%
And i confess, never saw the point in small rods. Just picked up a couple of 9 foot scopes that now live in my campervan all the time. Scope rucksack suits me perfect for my fishing bits, never took a lot of gear, sits a lot better on my back than the CA Vulpine too!
It was ruined when a certain company started outsourcing everything to China and trying to dominate the market. Other companies had no choice but to do the same to survive.
100%
And i confess, never saw the point in small rods. Just picked up a couple of 9 foot scopes that now live in my campervan all the time. Scope rucksack suits me perfect for my fishing bits, never took a lot of gear, sits a lot better on my back than the CA Vulpine too!
In reply to Post #27
I agree.
Kevin has brought some innovative products to us all, an actual need, or a solution to a problem or issue that existed, or could be improved, not a want.... if you get what I mean.
A product that does actually make a genuine BETTER difference to our angling when we have used it.
Like the happy hooker, weigh slings & carp sacks, rod holdalls, bivvies, Profile oval brollies that covered the whole bedchair, slippery eel fabric, Titans, early lead clip/bolt beads, XT Line, those TT Bedchairs, twin tilt- for taller anglers.
NashBait caught plenty, a great shame that ended.
We have Kevin Nash's beady eye to thank for bringing us the SS3000 to the U.K. market
I agree.
Kevin has brought some innovative products to us all, an actual need, or a solution to a problem or issue that existed, or could be improved, not a want.... if you get what I mean.
A product that does actually make a genuine BETTER difference to our angling when we have used it.
Like the happy hooker, weigh slings & carp sacks, rod holdalls, bivvies, Profile oval brollies that covered the whole bedchair, slippery eel fabric, Titans, early lead clip/bolt beads, XT Line, those TT Bedchairs, twin tilt- for taller anglers.
NashBait caught plenty, a great shame that ended.
We have Kevin Nash's beady eye to thank for bringing us the SS3000 to the U.K. market
Suggestion on FB that Martin Bowler has gone as well.....
In reply to Post #30
I'm sure he'll re-hook up with another company "”- geddit?
I'm sure he'll re-hook up with another company "”- geddit?
In reply to Post #30
I noticed he's starting tagging Gardner specimen in posts recently and did wonder.
I noticed he's starting tagging Gardner specimen in posts recently and did wonder.
In reply to Post #29
I think you have to be an angler of a certain age to appreciate what Nash have bought to the table.
I certainly wasn't aware of any other bivvy of a design even remotely like the original Titan? Groundbreaking IMO.
The first commercially available unhooking mats I was aware of were Nashys silver ones.
The bolt beads with the little lug on the back to push antitangle tube onto, simply brilliant.
I think you have to be an angler of a certain age to appreciate what Nash have bought to the table.
I certainly wasn't aware of any other bivvy of a design even remotely like the original Titan? Groundbreaking IMO.
The first commercially available unhooking mats I was aware of were Nashys silver ones.
The bolt beads with the little lug on the back to push antitangle tube onto, simply brilliant.
Just seen a post re new Nash products on FB, the end is not nigh 
...not yet anyway
...not yet anyway
In reply to Post #32
Yeah his social media is all Gardner tackle now.
Yeah his social media is all Gardner tackle now.
In reply to Post #34
Yes I saw Alan Blair drop a few hints regarding the Scope Black Ops gear is due soon. Scope boat, Subterfuge water boxes etc.
Yes I saw Alan Blair drop a few hints regarding the Scope Black Ops gear is due soon. Scope boat, Subterfuge water boxes etc.
In reply to Post #33
Agree. Titan bivs, early sacks and ultra comfortable beds, early leadclips, bait and oval brollys are all items that imo set the bar although nowdays the only item i still use are his wideboy bedchairs. Certainly in years gone by his contributions were without doubt a big help in pursuit of carp..... nowdays with so much compeition its inevitable that their influence has waned... at least with with an old dinasour like me that does not understand boom boom music, sawn offs, scopes and graffiti(i cant even spell it) style urban behavour!
Agree. Titan bivs, early sacks and ultra comfortable beds, early leadclips, bait and oval brollys are all items that imo set the bar although nowdays the only item i still use are his wideboy bedchairs. Certainly in years gone by his contributions were without doubt a big help in pursuit of carp..... nowdays with so much compeition its inevitable that their influence has waned... at least with with an old dinasour like me that does not understand boom boom music, sawn offs, scopes and graffiti(i cant even spell it) style urban behavour!
Completely lost their way although the whole urban banx films were good and had a loads of views how much did that really translate to sales..
I don't think there is a big market for the small rods, light gear urban fishing style that they were pushing. Give me a quiet lake in the middle of knowhere anyday.
Bivvys and alarms are decent but apart from that what would buy from nash ?
I don't think there is a big market for the small rods, light gear urban fishing style that they were pushing. Give me a quiet lake in the middle of knowhere anyday.
Bivvys and alarms are decent but apart from that what would buy from nash ?
I haven't a single item of Nash now,I did have their dot spomb which was good but lost it,I had 2 lots of Nash trax barrows one when I lived in Southampton and one when I moved back to the midlands,both had theirs wheels pop and their customer service was crap at time as well.
I stick to
Trakker(Bivvy)
Korda(terminal tackle etc)
TA(luggage)
And a few others for rods,reels,alarms etc
I stick to
Trakker(Bivvy)
Korda(terminal tackle etc)
TA(luggage)
And a few others for rods,reels,alarms etc
It makes me wonder how much Kevin is actually involved in Nash these days? He isn't a young man anymore & I suspect Nash's failings in recent years could rest on other people's shoulders, as it were.
Yes Alan, I'm talking to you..
Yes Alan, I'm talking to you..
In reply to Post #40
It could also be argued that the whole Scope concept saved Nash from disappearing many years ago...
It could also be argued that the whole Scope concept saved Nash from disappearing many years ago...
In reply to Post #41
It could also be argued that the Hooligun range was the start of its demise.
It could also be argued that the Hooligun range was the start of its demise.
In reply to Post #41
Based on a few hints that have been dropped, you're spot on. Apparently the Scope range has been a big revenue generator.
Based on a few hints that have been dropped, you're spot on. Apparently the Scope range has been a big revenue generator.
Think the biggest release would be the bushwhacker in the last 5 years for Nash
Surely everything else is just a shiny rehash.
Probably no different to any other brand there though …..
Definitely don't think Nash is aimed at the "older " carp angler anymore.
Surely everything else is just a shiny rehash.
Probably no different to any other brand there though …..
Definitely don't think Nash is aimed at the "older " carp angler anymore.
In reply to Post #33
If my memory ain't failing me
Titan was king until the Armadillo arrived
If my memory ain't failing me
Titan was king until the Armadillo arrived
In reply to Post #45
Some say ...it was apotheosis in either aerograde alloy poles or fibre glass, the original five rib easy dome with HD built in bathtub ,groundsheet ,then mk1 straight bar titan in slippery eel ,with the shrinking bar tabs ,which made it impossible to set up ..( built to front mother nature and win)....,and as mentioned the union jack armos made by Julie I believe ..
That's the evolution of how I remember it going ,..
Some say ...it was apotheosis in either aerograde alloy poles or fibre glass, the original five rib easy dome with HD built in bathtub ,groundsheet ,then mk1 straight bar titan in slippery eel ,with the shrinking bar tabs ,which made it impossible to set up ..( built to front mother nature and win)....,and as mentioned the union jack armos made by Julie I believe ..
That's the evolution of how I remember it going ,..
In reply to Post #40
I was under the impression that he has not been involved for a good few years in day to day running of it. I think he literally just takes a royalty or dividend payment now a days.
I'm sure it was around the time that they split the bait and the tackle side into two businesses.
I was under the impression that he has not been involved for a good few years in day to day running of it. I think he literally just takes a royalty or dividend payment now a days.
I'm sure it was around the time that they split the bait and the tackle side into two businesses.
In reply to Post #47
I think he bowed out of day to day running when he ran out of people to argue with.
I think he bowed out of day to day running when he ran out of people to argue with.
In reply to Post #47
Feb 24 apparently he resigned from Nash tackle
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Feb 24 apparently he resigned from Nash tackle
LINKY POO™ https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01895963/officers
One things for sure, the 'all over' for Nash bit won't happen, too big a brand to just disappear while there's worth in the name.
I can see the groups and investment vultures circling, probably already been in touch, would be a shame but just another company to get swallowed up leaving less choice.
One thing about Nash, they've done it their way, quite a lot of their stuff is 'a different take' to the 'norm' and personally though not a customer, it'd be a shame to see them go that way.
I can see the groups and investment vultures circling, probably already been in touch, would be a shame but just another company to get swallowed up leaving less choice.
One thing about Nash, they've done it their way, quite a lot of their stuff is 'a different take' to the 'norm' and personally though not a customer, it'd be a shame to see them go that way.
In reply to Post #42
I said that in a previous thread a while back.
Hooligun, Peg One, the awful BP range of reels, Dwarf, 25th Anni, Nevilles, The Stainless hardware that fell apart, the acquisition of Taska, the bait range which had 176389281672 different variations of pop ups and pellet....
They must have sunk a hell of a lot of money into those over the last 15 years.
Is it any wonder they cannot pay people a 25k a year wage when 50 quid rods snap in a gust of wind..
I said that in a previous thread a while back.
Hooligun, Peg One, the awful BP range of reels, Dwarf, 25th Anni, Nevilles, The Stainless hardware that fell apart, the acquisition of Taska, the bait range which had 176389281672 different variations of pop ups and pellet....
They must have sunk a hell of a lot of money into those over the last 15 years.
Is it any wonder they cannot pay people a 25k a year wage when 50 quid rods snap in a gust of wind..
In reply to Post #49
He is still the director of Nash Corp Ltd as is Alan
He is still the director of Nash Corp Ltd as is Alan
In reply to Post #51
Don't think it was them that bought taska ?
Don't think it was them that bought taska ?
In reply to Post #53
They definitely took on the taska tungsten range
They definitely took on the taska tungsten range
In reply to Post #52
Yup but not Nash tackle
Also a director of ispot
Yup but not Nash tackle
Also a director of ispot
In reply to Post #54
They might of brought out some of the same stuff, but they didn't buy taska out. A company called "letsgetfishing" did
They might of brought out some of the same stuff, but they didn't buy taska out. A company called "letsgetfishing" did
In reply to Post #56
They went to the same supplier Taska were using
They went to the same supplier Taska were using
I heard Nash are looking at branching out into other sports in order to produce new income streams. First on the drawing board is a blow up Archery target.
In reply to Post #58
Made me laugh that
Yonks ago Nash gear was know as Nasty. When I look what's around I don't think it's too bad, I've had a bit of their gear over the years and can't think of many complaints
Made me laugh that
Yonks ago Nash gear was know as Nasty. When I look what's around I don't think it's too bad, I've had a bit of their gear over the years and can't think of many complaints
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