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New carp wagon (96 posts / 11,917 views)
Joe101
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Post #1 21 Apr 2023 12:58
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After some advice on a new carp wagon.

Currently rolling around in a 2004 Berlingo, but my wife now refuses to take it if I've got the car, and it's certainly seen better days.

I'm thinking about going back to some form of 4X4, but something comfortable enough for a longer journey too.

Got about £7k to spend, already have one estate so don't want another.

Any recommendations appreciated.
Fivenil Fivenil
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Post #2 21 Apr 2023 13:28
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Diesel Ford Kuga. Used mine several trips to France. With a Roofbox i easily fit 2 loads of gear. Comfy and pretty good fuel consumption motorway driving.
RKB
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Post #3 21 Apr 2023 15:33
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Yep, a Kuga is a good shout though 4x4? Not sure. My fishing wagon is a Kia Sportage, high wheel base, 4x4 if needed, really economical and I can get tonnes of stuff in it. It's not as fun to drive as my 3 Series Estate but that thing doesn't get down the tracks to the lakes I fish!
pearbo pearbo
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Post #4 21 Apr 2023 17:20
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Think my next motor will be an Octavia scout, I'd like a cross country Volvo but they don't half hold their money and they're dear to start with.

All the best bits of a car, but with 4x4 and jacked up suspension. SUVs hold a premium and are smaller than they look
Hitman Hitman
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Post #5 21 Apr 2023 17:48
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Try and go for a car that doesn't meet the ulez as I know a few people are upgrading so a bargain could be had 👍
Doughnutz
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Post #6 21 Apr 2023 18:35
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In reply to Post #1
Honda CRV. Choice of diesel or petrol, manual or auto. Avoid diesel if you're only doing short daily drives due to the dreaded DPF issues - same for all later diesels. The manual diesel's can suffer with clutch/DMF wear. Replacement isn't cheap at circa £1500. The auto, especially on later models (9 speed), is the top choice.

I got a CRV after handing back a company Superb estate. Did think the Honda wouldn't have the same carrying capacity. It has, due to the load space height.

Avoid Ford automatics (powershift 2011-2016). There are known faults which unfortunately is not a case of if it will go wrong, but when.


oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #7 21 Apr 2023 19:03
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In reply to Post #5
Try and go for a car that doesn't meet the ulez as I know a few people are upgrading so a bargain could be had
this is very true but would be a nightmare if you want to drive thru a zone at £12.50 a time !
I know the Nissan Qashqai 4WD gets 50.0 mpg
I have a mate that was looking for a fishing wagon to replace his freelander that he loved

initially he bought a Yeti but could not get on with it so bought a Passat estate but it was too low he now has the Nissan Qashqai and says its the best of the bunch

Teddybare
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Post #8 22 Apr 2023 00:36
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In reply to Post #1
Second hand Icecream van?

You'd get a power barrow in the back and you can knock out 99's and choc ices round your day ticket
ron83 ron83
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Post #9 22 Apr 2023 21:17
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I have a van, has it's downsides - think a decent pathfinder would be an awesome buy.
Leeroyjenkins Leeroyjenkins
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Post #10 22 Apr 2023 21:25
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Is it dedicated for fishing, If so I can't see a single reason not to get a van? After having vans for years, with a ramp you can just push your barrow up inside, I can't ever imagine wanting to load everything into a car.

Things like a nissan pathfinder are the size of a van without the room inside, and worse on fuel.
Joe101
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Post #11 22 Apr 2023 22:37
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Thanks for the replies guys. I have a nice ulez compliant estate, so definitely does not need to be ulez compliant. The Berlingo was originally a fishing only vehicle, but my Mrs has now gone back to the office once or twice a week, which leaves me driving my smelly rusty old Berlingo to the office too....!


g4fne g4fne
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Post #12 23 Apr 2023 11:18
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ive had Volvo V70 estate, 2 Berlingo Multispaces in the past and now have a 2020 180bhp Kuga ST Line.

The Berlingo isnt as refined//quick as a Kuga/Volvo but they are the most versatile vehicle on the market and generally brilliant imo as a jack of all trades. I also have a van for fishing nowadays but if i had to have only one vehicle again it would be the Berlingo Multispace.

Personally I would never share a family/personal vehicle with a fishing vehicle again .... I would spend less on the main vehicle and buy a cheap van/berlingo in addition to the family/personal vehicle .... The second vehicle can ge a godsend for far more than just fishing
Doing_a_brew Doing_a_brew
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Post #13 23 Apr 2023 12:32
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In reply to Post #7
Our Quashqai 1.5dci has been brilliant, only wish it was the 4x4 version (it's the wife's car). Never actually got stuck anywhere though and I drive it across the fields and over the floodbanks on the Trent. Need ground clearance that would see an estate ripped to bits!

Will do 60mpg on a run, can get loads of gear in and in the 5 years we've owned it the only issue we've had is aircon leaks (it's an early version of the newer 1234rf gas system), but that was sorted when we took it to a specialist air con place who knew what they were doing! We've driven it to the south of France multiple times and it's never let us down in the 50,000 miles we've done, it's currently on just under 120k.

£20 a year tax as well.

There are probably better modern alternatives, but they're not £7k!
Bristolsaint40 Bristolsaint40
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Post #14 24 Apr 2023 08:52
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Skoda Kodiaq?
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #15 24 Apr 2023 09:59
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Skoda Yeti / Karoq 4x4 . . .

Depends on where you fish - Vans def fine for Lakes with tracks / dedicated carping however if you fish rivers then a 4x4 is more versatile and will get you home on a rainy / muddy day
The_Andyman The_Andyman
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Post #16 24 Apr 2023 17:32
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Won't get anywhere near the £7k budget for one of them
finbob finbob
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Post #17 25 Apr 2023 11:20
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Honda CRV . Lots of load space, decent on diesel (in 1.6), drives nice, very reliable. Had same dilemma.. Always tough choice and always compromise.
cjm888
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Post #18 25 Apr 2023 21:30
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In reply to Post #17
Another vote for a Honda CRV.

I usually swap cars after 3 years but kept my previous CRV for 6 years as nothing goes wrong with them.

I now have a 2014 plate coming up for 3 years and again have no plans to change.

For the size I think it has the biggest capacity boot. I have the 1.6 diesel and average nearly 50mpg.
55s 55s
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Post #19 25 Apr 2023 22:58
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Transit connect swb

I started van life in a caddy about 10 years ago but injector nightmare.
The transit is a car comfort but a van - I love mine.
Slackrack Slackrack
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Post #20 28 Apr 2023 00:07
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Please, come on darlings the what's the best carp wagon subject is so last season the ever growing vanity laden ego's carried by the coolest carpers of today can't be accommodated by merely a carp wagon, its now all about what is the best motor home darlings.
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #21 30 Apr 2023 08:26
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I know its not what you asked for but as vans are mentioned why not another Berlingo or Teepee. My wife changed job last Aug to one with no company car so had been driving our 2006 Berlingo to work. Its still quite tidy but doesn't really meet with the appearance req for her job so over the last few months we looked for a new car.
She wanted a little number but she/we got a Peugeot Rifter and she loves it, it's on the same chassis as the Berlingo/Combo and another I forget, anyway I digress.

While looking round there were some really good pre face lift models ( I was looking Berlingo) with ultra low miles within your budget and top spec too....well worth considering imo.
inzenity inzenity
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Post #22 1 May 2023 08:34
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REnault grand modus, brilliant space and you can keep your hat on, or citroen c3 picasso, le space box. Well within budget, both with reliable diesel engines, or maybe even ulez (pfff) compliant gasoil engines. I once had a small modus, and besides looking like a total weirdo, amazing space. Can't remember if you could remove the rear chairs, in which case the scenic comes to mind.
shane24 shane24
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Post #23 1 May 2023 11:09
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In reply to Post #1
I used to have a Peugeot 3008, i really liked that as a car perfect for fishing.

They've got a split rear tailgate and a multi level boot so you can keep stuff in the lower section and still have useable space above when not fishing.
The rear seats fold completely flat, and there is loads of room in it height wise.
Busted
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Post #24 1 May 2023 11:48
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Mrs has got a kodiaq vrs. It would make a serious fishing wagon!
Bristolsaint40 Bristolsaint40
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Post #25 2 May 2023 09:10
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Mine did lol, sold it for a Mustang which was less of a fishing wagon
Busted
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Post #26 5 May 2023 09:16
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In reply to Post #25
Slightly less practical
Bristolsaint40 Bristolsaint40
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Post #27 5 May 2023 09:19
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In reply to Post #26
That's what my accountant said as well lol
SilureMark
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Post #28 5 May 2023 20:31
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Well, I may get some dirty looks in the car park, but my new Audi RS4 Evant ticks all the boxes for me as my fishing wagon. I waited 18 months to get it as well. £79,000 well spent It's only money
Busted
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Post #29 5 May 2023 21:13
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Ive just chopped one in for an M3 touring. Apart from its face, im afraid yours is not 79k well spent!
g4fne g4fne
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Post #30 6 May 2023 11:32
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Ouch!!
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #31 6 May 2023 12:48
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The_Andyman The_Andyman
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Post #32 6 May 2023 15:41
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For that much, you should of got an Avant
Crackers4Carp Crackers4Carp
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Post #33 8 May 2023 20:45
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connorhcarper connorhcarper
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Post #34 10 May 2023 00:54
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Looking at a Honda CR-V as I just cannot bring myself to use my Golf R for fishing anymore, breaks my heart lol.
Belch Belch
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Post #35 10 May 2023 08:29
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Bit small - should have gone for an RS6 Avant
Boris_Carp Boris_Carp
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Post #36 10 May 2023 19:01
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In reply to Post #1
Have a look at a Jeep Cherokee 2.8td four wheeldrive with high or low ratio
I had one years ago pulled my mate out of a few sticky spots in its time
AndyCarper82 AndyCarper82
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Post #37 13 May 2023 21:40
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Avoid anything german or German supplied as they are nothing but money pits and trouble unless your happy to pump money into it to just keep it running. Same goes for anything Land Rover.. there as bad as if not worse..

Honda CRV, Toyota rav 4 etc

Trust me, it'll save you a lot of money...
Busted
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Post #38 13 May 2023 22:55
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My last cars and what they have cost me (other that routine servicing, tyres etc.) have been as follows:
Audi rs4 - £0
BMW M340i - £0
BMW 340i - £0
BMW 335D - £0

It depends on what you want really but of you want a blend of practicality and performance, a toyota rav4 or a honda CRV arent going to cut it!

I do agree about landrover though. Literally everyone i know that has bought one, or a range rover has had some significant issues with it including both gearbox, diff and engine failures
OatcakeFred OatcakeFred
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Post #39 14 May 2023 12:03
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My last 2 company cars have been from the VW group and I've had no issues with them whatsoever. Wouldn't hesitate to get a used older car from the VW group, or any other German manufacturer. Buy with confidence I say.
Hitman Hitman
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Post #40 14 May 2023 13:12
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As below my last 3 cars have been faultless and apart from being serviced they have never let me down

C class estate

Gla

C class estate all with no issues and I get the service done every year because it qualifies the car for full European break down service 👍
frothey frothey
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Post #41 14 May 2023 18:30
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How old were those cars when you got rid though? And looking at price of cars that most are talking about on here, not exactly practical suggestions.

“ It depends on what you want really but of you want a blend of practicality and performance, a toyota rav4 or a honda CRV arent going to cut it! ”

My Misses's RAV is 5.8secs 0-60. Quick enough for an SUV, or for most people wanting a petrol auto AWD car that averages over 50pg.
frothey frothey
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Post #42 14 May 2023 18:42
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Got to love the industry's own figures, rather than someone down the pub who knows all about cars.
Ranked lowest to highest, ze Germans are the best aren't they?

Brand Reliability score Average repair cost
Land Rover (including Range Rover) 38% £1,260
Porsche 40% £1,550
Jaguar 51% £1,020
Chevrolet 53% £900
Alfa Romeo 53% £720
Audi 53% £970
BMW 53% £1,090
Mercedes56% £920
Mitsubishi58% £1,060
MINI 60% £790
SEAT 62% £660
VW 62% £710
Citroen 62% £580
Vauxhall 62% £580
Volvo 62% £790
Skoda 64% £620
Peugeot 64% £570
Nissan 64% £740
Mazda 67% £790
Renault 67% £560
Ford 67% £610
Kia 69% £530
Suzuki 71% £520
Fiat 71% £510
Hyundai 71% £570
Smart 73% £460
Toyota 80% £600
Lexus 87% £1,100
Honda 87% £530
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #43 14 May 2023 18:50
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I'm on my second Crv petrol...First one cost me £1,500,had it for nine years ,apart from new tyres,exhaust ...it never let me down ,until it started to leak and it was well over 22 yrs old by then ,...

My second Crv ,cost 3k.....no problems with it at all....a brilliant all round fishing and versatile car...

Why pay more,....?...

In a minute, cars ,especially fossil fuel cars ...Will be total anathema,..sadly the electric push is ramping up,and Net zero brainwashing will determine whether you'll.even have the freedom to travel like you are doing now..

If I was looking at any car I'd be looking at cheap as possible ...I'd certainly not be phallus waving or bigging up how much a vehicle costs ..
Joe101
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Post #44 20 May 2023 21:46
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Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. It's a bit of a nightmare! Thoughts have gone from an x trail, to a Dacia duster, but the CRV seems best value and decent cargo space. Will be keeping my eyes peeled.

AndyCarper82 AndyCarper82
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Post #45 21 May 2023 20:44
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CRV is a good choice. Compared to any German soft roader it's simply such a better choice for reliability, I've had one for years, the only reason why I've had 2 is that the first one got written off in a multi car pile up - I stopped but the cars behind me didn't.... A Hyundai tucked itself under the back of the CRV, I drove forward and pulled off it and drove the CRV home but the insurance wrote it off.

Our latest one has north of 160k on it now and it's just a reliable workhorse. The wife abuses it and has zero respect for cars..... it's a horse owner thing. We have a 2008 CDTI. Just service them on time and you have few issues.

One of the only other cars I'd consider is a Rav4.


Buy German... You buy trouble pretty much every time... Land Rover... Just don't bother...


AlanP
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Post #46 30 May 2023 08:41
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For those with CRVs:


Do any of you put your loaded barrow straight in the back up a ramp, or do you have to unload it and pack car one item at a time?



Thanks
Dazjones Dazjones
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Post #47 30 May 2023 09:53
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Not tried it in my mk3, never in that much of a rush. Doesn't take too long to load/unload anyway.

Daz
qwerty qwerty
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Post #48 5 Jun 2023 19:46
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In reply to Post #42
I have a Volvo XC-60, and I'm completely satisfied with the car. It has a high ground clearance, a 2.4-liter diesel engine, and all-wheel drive – it's like a rocket! The maintenance costs are not cheap, but it rarely breaks down.
djstrauss281 djstrauss281
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Post #49 5 Jun 2023 21:04
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What a mad statement. Ive had nothing but BMW for the last 15 years and can honestly say apart from a turbo actuator which I replaced myself and cost £130 on the wife's 2017 335d none of my cars cost me anything but usual yearly service and odd pads, tyres etc.

You keep hearing these horror stories but you don't know the circumstances how these cars are treated by their owners. Also consider how many get sold. My F10 m5 comp I had for 3 years and it cost me nothing but 2 rear tyres and some oil. My current x5m had for coming up 2 years and literally just did my first service at BMW for £370 for some oil and filters. Considering it's a thing with 720bhp and 900nm of torque that takes all my fishing gear with ease I think the upkeep is more than reasonable. (when it comes to new tyres that will hurt a bit more 🤣 )

Before that had an 530d which i did 150k miles and apart from a seized caliper which was self inflicted ramming on the brakes to wake my mate up it was faultless. No doubt japanese cars will be more reliable for the average car. But one does not have to look far online to see horror stories of their sports variants like a nissan GTR lol.


wandle1 wandle1
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Post #50 5 Jun 2023 22:38
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For those with CRvs or want one..


I put my portetlite straight in ,you can keep the handles on the barrow if it's angled..

But...listen up ...my Crv was destroyed underneath a couple of days ago ,they are very easy to steal the catylitic converter from underneath the car..I have on cctv ,it took three mins to ruin my car with a cordless grinder.....I now have a welded plates x2 on the underneath..

Great fishing cars ...easy access to the converter underneath, especially as they are high up ...OK,just passing on what I have unfortunately learnt ..

Hope that helps ..




Baitman Baitman
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Post #51 5 Jun 2023 23:43
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Adams pics...

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wandle1 wandle1
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Post #52 6 Jun 2023 00:11
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Top man Dave... ...




So want a Crv ....get a plate double welded over the Cat..,.

It is what is...fks sake I'm fuming !
finbob finbob
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Post #53 6 Jun 2023 08:09
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You can get a barrow straight in a CRV then remove handles but need to strap down to stop it moving and damaging inside trim /boot cover.
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #54 6 Jun 2023 08:18
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Sadly it is a Honda 'fault' that the catalytic converter is accessible in many of their models, and I've seen them removed and stolen in a minute and a half with a reciprocating saw.

To many people the theft of the catalytic converter is going to write the car off with the insurance company, you can be looking at up to £1000.

This easy access is one of the reasons I am very wary of considering any Honda model despite liking the CRV.
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #55 6 Jun 2023 09:40
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I just put mine straight in Finbob,no strapping down or anything ,and I use it over rough terrain a lot,or did
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #56 6 Jun 2023 09:41
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Spot on Nick,that 100% correct..
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #57 6 Jun 2023 13:00
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Spot on Nick,that 100% correct..

You and me have both been hit Mate.

Mine was done outside my flat, in front of the window. By the time I'd got my trainers on and out they were running away up the road with me chasing them. Despite having CCTV coverage covering the cul-de-sac in numerous neighbours properties police made no arrests. The number plate I got was from a cloned VW, based up in Yorkshire.

4 or 5 cars were hit in Ipswich that day.
Rebullio Rebullio
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Post #58 6 Jun 2023 19:58
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Mazda cx-5 petrol, big enough, seats fold flat and more importantly reliable
Bristolsaint40 Bristolsaint40
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Post #59 7 Jun 2023 09:10
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I'm after a Ford Ranger at the moment, 5 seats and loads of room in the back for fishing kit.
SamB
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Post #60 7 Jun 2023 09:54
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I have had a Dacia Jogger for nearly a year now.

Its a family + fishing car, 2nd being a Zoe. It's more of a high clearance, high interior volume estate car than an SUV. I have the LPG model which makes it a bit cheaper to run and slightly "cleaner", but I don't think it is available in the UK.

Honestly for the money (20,000€ new for the top of the range model - even if it is Dacia top of the range lol) you cant go wrong. I am not at all into cars, just a tool to me, and even less so as it's shared between family and fishing, I am not too worried about the odd particle juice spill.

I was looking for a second hand Octavia Scout or something similar but the prices are ridiculous. OK the Dacia is NOT AT ALL "sporty" to drive but the comfort and equipment are as good as a normal make from 5-10 yrs ago (better than the 2010 peugeot 308 it replaced).

I have 7 seats with the rear two removable very easily, good for ferrying extra kids or visiting family around. Plenty of room for skiing stuff in the winter.

Big boot, not tried to wheel in a barrow as the water I am currently fising doesn't require it, but according to the interweb the boot is slightly bigger than the CR-V for example. the extra clearance is brilliant for fishing (public lakes or rivers in france), its not a 4x4 of course, but enough to go down most dodgy lanes unless its very muddy and steep obviously.

Weel there we are, just going to write off to Dacia for some kind of commission arrangement now!
AndyCarper82 AndyCarper82
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Post #61 7 Jun 2023 09:57
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The Volvo 'rarely breaks down'. mmmmmm

One to avoid then if you want reliability I guess.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #62 7 Jun 2023 11:32
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I would not take car advice from you if you paid me
djstrauss281 djstrauss281
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Post #63 7 Jun 2023 12:09
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I would have to agree with this statement
gavinh87 gavinh87
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Post #64 11 Jun 2023 14:04
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I'm on the lookout for a new car that would also be used for fishing.

Do any of the guys recommending CRV's have any pics of theres loaded with tackle?

I currently have a mazda 6 estate which is one of the largest estate cars you can get (trust me I've been round many car supermarkets with a tape measure!) And with my bivvy, holdall, rods, bedchair and barrow along with the bait boxes etc I must say its a tight fit!


Looking on auto trader it seems the X trail has a fair bit of space when all seats are down.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #65 11 Jun 2023 14:31
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How much gear you taking I have a focus estate and I fit everything in easy.I even had a mk8 extreme powerporter in this weekend with loads of room left
The_Andyman The_Andyman
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Post #66 11 Jun 2023 14:38
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In reply to Post #64
Have you looked at skoda superb estates? From what I've seen, not much gets close and my one swallowed 2 people's gear for France trips.

I've now moved to a kodiaq and it's got more space
gavinh87 gavinh87
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Post #67 11 Jun 2023 14:44
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HAHA, this is my list.

Avid benchmark bed with 5 season bag
x3 12ft rod sleeves
1 large solar holdall
Nash moon chair (Probably the biggest culprit)
Tempest 1 man bivvy
Nash trax barrow
Small chiller bag for food with stove etc
Couple of bait boxes.

That doesn't seem like a lot there but it fills the car! Maybe its the small opening.


I'm surprised to see the kodiaq handling more than the superb. Do you think this is due to being taller?

I looked at a LOT of cars Friday and was about to pull the plug on the insignia sport tourer but the poo brown colour wasn't floating my boat.

I've since then been looking at the kia optima, xtrail and the superb. Budget is around 12k so I doub't I'll get a kodiaq for that.
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #68 11 Jun 2023 15:21
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I've had a few cars for fishing, and have me, my gear and my dog.
Everything fits in these:
Honda Jazz
Chrysler PT Cruiser,
VW Golf
Citroën Xsara Picasso

In the boot:
Carp Porter Barrow, folded down.
Sonik ST-tec chair.
Chub Xtra Protection Mat.
Chest Waders.
Rod Hutchinson Cabrio Monster Unhooking Mat.
Korum Ruckbag with my food etc
Solar P1 Pod.
2 5l bait buckets
Plano tackle/tool nox
5l spare fuel can.

In passenger seat footwell:
7.5l rectangular bucket with Sky's food, treats and bowl
10l container of water

In rear seats:
Bedchair and sleeping bag behind drivers seat.
100l Molle Rucksack
Husky Dog.

Positioned from rear hatch to front:
3 rod sling with rods and landing net.
Bivvy/Umbrella bag with Spod/marker rod strapped to it.


I've looked at other cars including the Honda CRV, and as Wandle and I have both discovered, catalytic converters are easy theft.

The_Andyman The_Andyman
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Post #69 11 Jun 2023 17:38
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The kodiaq has about 150 litres more space than my previous 2011 superb estate. I believe a lot of this space comes from the higher load area.

But for that money you'll likely only get a base SE model with higher mileage. Mines a 7 seater and the 5 seater has around 60 more litres of space but are harder to find and not available in some specs.
gavinh87 gavinh87
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Post #70 11 Jun 2023 18:09
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Quite a list!

Maybe I need lessons in how to pack a car if you can get that lot in a Jazz

Yeah, no kodiaqs in my price range unfortunately, nor the SEAT equivalent.

The kia optima is grabbing my attention at the moment.
glw1978
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Post #71 17 Jun 2023 12:52
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2010 Kia sportage first edition Awd 2 Crdi is good carp fishing wagon, 4 wheel drive with diff lock, leather heated seats, nippy and frugal 2.0 diesel engine, reversing camera. It just so happens im selling it if your intrested lol x
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Post #72 20 Jun 2023 09:30
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The Jazz is surprisingly spacious with its magic seats.
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Post #73 20 Jun 2023 10:49
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My wife's Toyota Verso is unbelievable for space,she is a childminder so needs a 7 seater.It does not look huge from outside like some of them but has so much useable room inside it's brilliant.
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Post #74 20 Jun 2023 11:58
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Range Rover Sports Autobiography

kit i take

2 fly rods and a small bag

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Post #75 22 Jun 2023 16:49
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I'm also after a vehicle for everyday running that would easily hold 2 peoples full kit for French trips and Uk sessions.

have been looking at the Skoda Superb Estate but i'm dubious thats going to take 2 full bed systems rod holdalls,Bivvys and all the other paraphernalia that we seem to take with us. Until i see one in person.
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Post #76 22 Jun 2023 17:06
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I think you'd struggle. I have a Superb Estate and I think I'd have trouble getting 2 people's gear in. I had a Ford S-Max before. That seemed quite a bit bigger.
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Post #77 22 Jun 2023 17:10
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Look at something like a VW amarok. That is the closest thing that drives like a normal car that would take that sort of gear. I had the v6 and it was really nice. Comfortable leather seats, infotainment system with all the bells and whistles like car play, reverse cameras, parking senors etc and it took a lot of gear
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Post #78 22 Jun 2023 17:22
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My superb mk2 easily took 2 people's gear for France trips, not sure what other estate if any has more load space. See my previous post about the kodiaq too
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Post #79 23 Jun 2023 09:41
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As mentioned previously, i'm going down the route of a pick up, 5 seats and enough space in the back for when go camping as well.
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Post #80 23 Jun 2023 10:22
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A big people carrier like a Galaxy or Grand Picasso would probably work. Ford Grand Tourneo Connect would be the other option, that's what I plan to get next.
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Post #81 23 Jun 2023 10:58
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Ford S-Max has done me proud on 48 and 72 hour sessions
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Post #82 23 Jun 2023 12:04
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My wife had a Galaxy and the Verso has more useable area inside,I don't know how as from outside the galaxy looks far bigger
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Post #83 23 Jun 2023 22:12
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took friends superb to France with more than we needed and still had headroom, great on fuel too
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Post #84 23 Jun 2023 23:07
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I also managed 3 people in my superb with 2 lots of fishing gear. Was tight and no mats but we made it lol
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Post #85 24 Jun 2023 03:38
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If not buying new worth a look at the Galaxy/Sharan/Alhambra which were at 1 time the same car but for styling. If you can't get all your gear for 2 in one of those theres no hope
Remove the rear seats, add a roof box if you want.

Worth a thought, you can also get boxes to fit on rear cycle carriers too, also dedicated rear carriers/boxes, lots of options.

Edit, and if you can be bothered and your rear seats are fixed/bolted in, take them out, tell your insurance though, classed as a interior modification, did that for years in our Berlingo.
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Post #86 30 Jun 2023 11:28
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-details/202306028083839?sort=year-dsc&advertising-location=at_vans&body-type=Pickup&include-delivery-option=on&postcode=BS24%207BS&supplied-price-from=1000&supplied-price-to=7000&fromsra
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Post #87 30 Jun 2023 12:12
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Years ago I got 3 people plus 3 lots of gear in a 1997 Megane Coupe, I drove Sheffield - Surrey in a very cramped position but we got it all in
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Post #88 30 Jun 2023 12:30
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Yes 3 of us used to do weekends at Orchid in a Ford Orion.
Roof rack used to take 3 rod holdalls and all the gear for 2 nights went inside.
Things like bedchairs and brollies with overwraps were so much smaller then and for everything else we managed to put in ex-army rucksacks.

Then I got a Renault Clio, that took two of us with no roof rack, the backs seats went down and the rod holdalls went in long ways and rested between the two front seats
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Post #89 2 Jul 2023 20:27
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3 of us got our stuff in a MK4 Cortina in the 80s. Driving from Kent to College lake in Cornwall
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Post #90 3 Jul 2023 20:06
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Quite a list!

Maybe I need lessons in how to pack a car if you can get that lot in a Jazz 

Yeah, no kodiaqs in my price range unfortunately, nor the SEAT equivalent.

The kia optima is grabbing my attention at the moment.   


I have a tendency to go through autotrader.co.uk with my price range as part of my search criteria, along with distance I'm willing to travel to pick it up.

I'm not a new car buyer, hate credit lend/lease, so everything is cash or debit card. There are some decent bargains to be had.
I normally get 3 years out of a used car before I have killed it, usually bumped over rough tracks round a lake and added around 100,000 miles through travel to work and back.
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Post #91 3 Jul 2023 21:58
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Got an octavia vrs estate. Absolutely fantastic
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Post #92 4 Jul 2023 19:02
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Yeah, but I could get everything for a week on my back in the 90's.

Cant even do that for an overnighter now 😂
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Post #93 4 Jul 2023 19:04
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Different world now isnt it ... I doubt a modern sized bedchair would fit in a Cortina boot on its own lol
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Post #94 6 Jul 2023 07:15
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I've managed to do a week in France in a Hyundai i10

I carry more gear than I do now as I succumbed and bought a van and a barrow. Up until the age of 30 I barely used a barrow. Used to take my brolly and a few smaller bits on my first walk round when picking a swim.

I now have a Berlingo, which does me nicely for both angling and day to day. The kids are young enough to get into the front. Once my boy is too big, I'll probably get a Transit.

Honestly, once you get a dangling van you won't go back to Estates. The convenience of leaving everything in the back and still have room for the Sainsburys shopping is a massive bonus.

In terms of squeezing everything in, using cool bags and buckets over conventional rucksacks etc is a massive help. They're modular, so they all get stacked, and if you have a walled unhooking mat (like the Wychwood Tactical) then the mat sits on the barrow in the back of the van and the buckets and cool bags get stacked inside of it.

During the summer, it's an ideal place to get those seeds fermenting, although after an overnighter, the kids moan like **** about the smelly sacks hanging up on the hooks
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Post #95 6 Jul 2023 09:52
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In terms of squeezing everything in, using cool bags and buckets over conventional rucksacks etc is a massive help.
Funny you should say that. For France we used/use the stackable type plastic boxes available from many places. Don't really fancy them for shorter trips here so was looking for something similar but bagged, ended up buying 6 of the Chub Vantage Barrow Bags, so handy fit under the bed chair lovely, and as I'm not trying to put everything in bigger bags easier to move about too!

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Post #96 6 Jul 2023 13:07
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Ive got the duster, had it from new i use a 680ltr top box so good to two people gear for a week in france
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