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Things that should never have been discontinued (97 posts / 9,255 views)
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #1 4 May 2022 23:36
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Its amazing the things the Tackle companies discontinued
that clearly they SHOULD NOT HAVE ??
I WILL KICK IT OFF

Shimano Catana mono simply one of the best mono lines ever made
Nash...liver and Garlic boilies simply a brilliant fish catcher catches Barbel when others fail
Wychwood .........Compact mhr brolly .........sheer madness it was and still is in a class of its own
Trakker .............Trakker NXG Bait Bucket Bag every one loves these ?

what do you miss ?
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #2 5 May 2022 01:22
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Fox Orange Baiting Needle - Ridgemonkey green one is an Equivalent now

Kamasan Barbel Maxx - Was the ESP curve prior to cryogens

Original Kryston Heavy Metal

Virtually anything made in the UK

snapper1 snapper1
Posts: 3,101
Post #3 5 May 2022 05:37
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Ball pellets by nash and nutrabaits, and skol lager
Willyworm
Posts: 154
Post #4 5 May 2022 06:16
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Kryston supa nova braid.
The original was perfect.
Now down to my last spool 😢
DirkDiggler DirkDiggler
Posts: 2,502
Post #5 5 May 2022 06:29
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Shimano technium 10000xt

Daiwa SS3000

Century FMJ rods

Rod Hutchinson Apotheosis bivvy

Broadlands bait boat...just kidding
wac
Posts: 624
Post #6 5 May 2022 06:51
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Meaty marine groudbait in the original tins
Andydave
Posts: 840
Post #7 5 May 2022 07:28
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The original Grange
AndyClark AndyClark
Posts: 5,815
Post #8 5 May 2022 07:41
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got to be kryston heavy metal putty, im sick of buying other putty in the hope it will be as good...nothing even comes close
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #9 5 May 2022 07:51
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Wychwood compact mhr brolly. ..
frankiesparks00 frankiesparks00
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Post #10 5 May 2022 07:55
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Original kryston heavy metal
Mainline NRG and original Grange


wetnet wetnet
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Post #11 5 May 2022 08:02
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50 inch aqua brolly
Shimano technium black line
Nash space shuttle quiver
The_Saint The_Saint
Posts: 2,072
Post #12 5 May 2022 08:05
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Original gardner tackle round handle baiting needle
Heathrow baits stench oil...best barbel attractor ever
Justin_Time Justin_Time
Posts: 370
Post #13 5 May 2022 11:57
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The original grange gets my vote too. I'd use it till the day I die.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #14 5 May 2022 12:00
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why did they discontinue it
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #15 5 May 2022 12:15
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Still got my shuttle, not used for many years
Busted
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Post #16 5 May 2022 13:07
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Mainline proactive range
Ccmoore equinox
Technium black
Richworth tutti frutti
Shimano 10,000 xt

All great things!
Alcatraz Alcatraz
Posts: 1,085
Post #17 5 May 2022 13:17
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Fox Evo
TU Goliath combi
Nash Bullet braid
Boo Boo
Posts: 8,856
Post #18 5 May 2022 13:28
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Fox Trigger-Lok landing net. Got one that must be pushing 25 years old and still going strong plus managed to buy one cheap on Facebook so have a spare as well now
Goose Goose
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Post #19 5 May 2022 14:20
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Was that the mint one recently for £100?
carpstar40 carpstar40
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Post #20 5 May 2022 14:20
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Kryston Drift Wood AKA floating dog turd.
RigDemon RigDemon
Posts: 1,458
Post #21 5 May 2022 14:38
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Dynamite meaty marine.
Darkieallard
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Post #22 5 May 2022 14:42
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Original 1.5 man Pioneer

Nash Whisky range

Shimano Technium black
wandle1 wandle1
Posts: 7,469
Post #23 5 May 2022 15:13
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Can still get frozen tutti,used it last winter..

Singlebleep Singlebleep
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Site deviant... Post #24 5 May 2022 15:18
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Some repeats from previous posts :

Technium 10,000XT's
ESP Vertex Distance rods
Mainline Grange CSL ( bags of dry mix and part 1&2 plus active aid sweetener)
Mainline Proactive Pineapple
Aqua Union Jack products


fusion1966 fusion1966
Posts: 1,118
Post #25 5 May 2022 16:17
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Ace i3 alarms and receiver - ahead of their time and most top alarms still don't have all the features these did

Ace extendable landing net - mine is still going strong but wished I'd have purchased 2 at the time.

MPE tackle bank ware - well engineered and wished I purchased the pod conversion kit at the time

Boo Boo
Posts: 8,856
Post #26 5 May 2022 16:44
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Bought it a couple years ago, pretty much mint and was only £50 so couldn't not buy it 😂
shilts
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Post #27 5 May 2022 17:20
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Shimano technium black line
Kryston heavy metal (original)
scaley&dark
Posts: 5,563
Post #28 5 May 2022 19:23
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Frenzy, Re: the grange bait
I believe the original supplier stopped making one of the key ingredients for it, If I remember rightly it was that superb corn steep liquid. I stand to be corrected on this, but that sticks in my Mind.
Secret Jon would know

Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #29 5 May 2022 20:25
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you mean Mozzi cant source it....

im amazed
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #30 5 May 2022 20:36
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Now Now you will be getting banned with digs like that
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #31 5 May 2022 20:40
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One cant get banned for facts
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #32 5 May 2022 21:02
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Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #33 5 May 2022 21:13
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its a bit early for mozzi to send me message, they normally come when most normal folk are alseep , three cups of tea at 8am and ive still not a dam clue what he sends me
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #34 5 May 2022 21:23
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MCF Egg floats
Hutchy Springlock 'Catch n Carry' landing net
Fox RX Digital alarms
Fox Classic Unhooking Mat
Fox Mk1 Quattro Pod
Aqua Aqualite
Shimano Technium XT10000
Drennan Super Specialist Micro Braid
Mk 1 Navitas Weaves
dave777 dave777
Posts: 938
Post #35 5 May 2022 21:32
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Daiwa AKN
Kryston Supernova
Infinity Supersoft Fluro (think it's discontinued!)
Original Activ8
Carp R Us Gizmos / Rubbers
Meaty Marine Groundbait
Ball Pellets
Original Bullet Braid
Seagarden LO30

bowlsky bowlsky
Posts: 2,837
Post #36 5 May 2022 21:39
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Another for Shimano tech black line
tazi tazi
Posts: 4,859
Post #37 5 May 2022 21:47
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My unused dymag stalker net with the 3ft extension.....
ballie ballie
Posts: 88
Post #38 5 May 2022 22:58
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chub sound lite 2
mrjcarter mrjcarter
Posts: 1,370
Post #39 5 May 2022 23:36
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Shimano Catana line
Baitman Baitman
Posts: 5,233
Post #40 6 May 2022 02:05
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Shimano reel spare parts
nicky_napkins nicky_napkins
Posts: 596
Post #41 6 May 2022 02:30
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Ecstasy from the late 90s..
InTheMargin
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Post #42 6 May 2022 05:27
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The previous version of ESP joggers - the newest version of these are terrible. Go all bobbly after a couple of washes. The previous model where much better and lasted me years.
jhhilton1983 jhhilton1983
Posts: 1,945
Post #43 6 May 2022 07:54
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Kryston Heavy metal - Luckily i still have 2 full tubs of it. And a partial one.


I thought the grange was stopped when cargills in Manchester stopped the original CSL production. However may be wrong.
tazi tazi
Posts: 4,859
Post #44 6 May 2022 10:04
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Shame the 90s went too.

Loved the 80s dancing to house in the small room, student night at Regimes in Hanley.
VLT VLT
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Post #45 6 May 2022 10:51
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Nash space shuttle quiver, luckily I have one in my loft.
Aqua Aqualite.
Wilberforce
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Post #46 6 May 2022 11:28
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The Intrepid Black Prince reel.




Said no one, ever !
Singlebleep Singlebleep
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Site deviant... Post #47 6 May 2022 11:57
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Nearly sixty years on I'm still mentally scarred by the sound of a Black Prince bail arm hitting the reel stem to trip the bail arm over. That clang stays in your memory forever.
mal mal
Posts: 8,986
Post #48 6 May 2022 12:22
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John Wilson

they don't make them like him these days
Mozzi Mozzi
Posts: 1,900
Post #49 6 May 2022 12:50
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It was fairly standard CSL with a little bottle of "part 2" which most people accept to be a product called "phytase".

Marcus Watts is selling it out of Mirage Baits, give him a shout and try it if you'd like
The_Saint The_Saint
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Post #50 6 May 2022 13:03
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original ming oil sold by the tackle box
Singlebleep Singlebleep
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Site deviant... Post #51 6 May 2022 13:11
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My understanding of its demise as a bait was that either the Corn Steep Liquor or the Part 2 was live enzymes so prone to exploding in the bottles when shaken up in transit or in the post in warm weather which made it very difficult to get out to the shops, and virtually impossible to a non commercial address.

I can remember that Bristol Angling where I got mine from said the Post Office had refused to accept it anymore.

There was a cartoon in Carpworld showing a bloke trying to hold a storeroom door shut as the stuff was expanding and pushing the door off its hinges with a caption something like “live enzymes be buggered, I'm not risking going in there again”

I think it was also the time when readymades were getting more prolific and anglers were going for the easy option.

I still remember the excitement of opening the red and silver foil bag of dry mix

Singlebleep Singlebleep
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Site deviant... Post #52 6 May 2022 13:16
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Anyone remember Crunt Oil and Camels Helmet?

I think it was the firm that had the logo of a dogs rear end showing a big pair of balls and had the advertising strap line “The Dogs ********”

Probably get arrested and 10 years banged up for that now
scaley&dark
Posts: 5,563
Post #53 6 May 2022 13:39
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I liked using that Crunt oil from Premier baits. Caught a few on it as well.

“The Dogs ********” was Alan Taylors (RIP Mate) bait company , Whacker Catcher Products

Westmidsmoaner Westmidsmoaner
Posts: 230
Post #54 6 May 2022 16:11
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Skol super was good tackle
Westmidsmoaner Westmidsmoaner
Posts: 230
Post #55 6 May 2022 16:13
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Hinders Elips pellets range

The original recipe ..

Best barbel bait I've used .... Ever
Westmidsmoaner Westmidsmoaner
Posts: 230
Post #56 6 May 2022 16:16
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Doves , diamonds etc
ip100 ip100
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Post #57 6 May 2022 17:08
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It was all about the dollars ... Them buggers ruined you 🤣
AndyClark AndyClark
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Post #58 6 May 2022 18:36
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Good old mitsubishi's
ip100 ip100
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Post #59 6 May 2022 18:41
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Haha
2ndChance 2ndChance
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Post #60 6 May 2022 18:45
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Things that should never have been discontinued

The very intense "debate" between the white and the black forum members
RKB
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Post #61 6 May 2022 19:45
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Late 80's, early 90's - no contest.
nickyp nickyp
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Post #62 6 May 2022 20:01
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Mainline active maple 8
Original RX digitals
Nash space shuttle
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
Posts: 4,660
Post #63 6 May 2022 20:03
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yellow callies, white callies, double doves, playboys
2ndChance 2ndChance
Posts: 2,946
Post #64 6 May 2022 21:45
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Hotshot Hamish Roy Of Rovers
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #65 7 May 2022 07:36
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The original Shimano Baitrunners.

They should have stopped modernising the range from the point of the 6010/8010's. The baitrunners since then are not so good, build quality, materials and the like.



Halfcentury
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Post #66 7 May 2022 08:06
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Definitely agree with this.
noj
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Social photographer...
Social photographer... Post #67 7 May 2022 08:16
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The D and even oc are well worth a look. Closer to an actual ‘original' baitrunner and very robust
snapper1 snapper1
Posts: 3,101
Post #68 7 May 2022 08:48
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Built 2 last, not a good idea
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #69 7 May 2022 09:18
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wish i never flogged mine.

i still have one 8010, love it
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #70 7 May 2022 09:51
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I have a pair of Shimano 8000 XTEA
that I use on my Barbel rods AND !! got the amazing Felindre Dragon Washers fitted !! that makes a brilliant clutch an awesome clutch

the XTEA range gears were the best ever made!......... apparently due to production cost ?? they changed the material made ( or was it because they wont wear out ?) along with the fact they have 7 bearings make them a rolls royce of reels IMHO
miles better than the new range unless you can spend out on their Thunnus reels that are amazing reels
scozza
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Post #71 7 May 2022 11:06
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Are these the silver ones?

Edit - I believe these were the XTE, I had a set, wish I had kept them but I sold off my small water set up

Other than sentimental value, can't say there is much I miss if I am honest, it's all replaceable. Tackle and equipment has progressed a very long way, the only thing that grinds me is the extortionate prices and everybody trying to make a killing out of the pastime, new model, upgrade 5 because the got it wrong the previous 4 times etc etc!

Reels are a classic for me. Had my infinity's for near on 20 years and loved, them, faultless. Looking back great big dirty things with a clutch that took forever to adjust and a crap line clip but other than that bullet proof, I can't imagine the bling f today lasting anywhere near that long without wanting to kind of cheap plastic cove that either costs a fortune or is phased out so you have to upgrade

They are churning reel models out left right and centre now, based on a 20 year life, what I guess us anglers want, I wonder what the reality is!!!
Bristolsaint40 Bristolsaint40
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Post #72 7 May 2022 11:21
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Still use my 3x GT8010's to this day.
scozza
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Post #73 7 May 2022 11:23
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i had a set of the original GTE, double handled, sold those around 3 years ago
Bristolsaint40 Bristolsaint40
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Post #74 7 May 2022 15:31
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Thats the ones I have, go for good money now,
Hitman Hitman
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Post #75 7 May 2022 16:49
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Still got mine
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #76 7 May 2022 17:13
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A pair of 8010 GTs (beach-caster rods) still in use and a pair of 5010 GTs (tench / pellet wag rods) still in use!
Baitman Baitman
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Post #77 7 May 2022 18:01
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I have XTE super baitrunners on my small water set up, they are lovely.
I have aero gt 8010 on my barbel rods and aero 6010 on a few small rods.
All have been changed to single handles so they sit better on the quivers, and they look better
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #78 7 May 2022 19:20
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Original Active8
The fermented bloodworms that old Sticky used to do in a metal can.
Meaty marine groundbait in a tin
Original Solar squid and octopus flavour
The old Nash hooks, fangs etc before they ****ed about with the whole range.
Whisky boilies.
Anything Aqua when it was hand made in the UK
scozza
Posts: 18,421
Post #79 7 May 2022 19:40
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The fermented bloodworms that old Sticky used to do in a metal can

That's when JC had it. Some serious fermentation going on with that. I kid you not, nearly blew my hand off with that, had a tin and the lid had seized on with all the gunge, was showing my mate in the garage, couldn't get the lid off, after a good few minutes twisting a dull bang, seriously hurt my hand and wrist

I stopped using it, some serious bloodworm attraction going on, I had 14 tench one evening and the were all decent sized fish, crazy!
Nick Nick
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Post #80 7 May 2022 19:41
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mainline grange and nash whiskey for me

oh - and the original embossed cans of 5.2% Stella
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #81 7 May 2022 20:47
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i had one of my best french trips ever using those tins. I was fishing just a golf ball sized amount of pellet/bloodworm mix and a tiny pop up. Virtually no other bait. Caught right through the whole trip.

Before covid I spoke to Jake Wildbore on the Sticky stand at the big one and tried to get him to pester the boss to re-release it. He just laughed and said no chance!

Hell of a product. I kept mine in the airing cupboard. I would 100% go straight back on it if they could release it in the same form.


I should have added T1 to the list as well.
scozza
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Post #82 7 May 2022 20:48
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Before covid I spoke to Jake Wildbore on the Sticky stand at the big one and tried to get him to pester the boss to re-release it. He just laughed and said no chance!

He probably wasnt born then

It worked, fish loved it
mere--man mere--man
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Post #83 8 May 2022 12:10
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Aqua 50 inch brolly
Sevylor fish hunter
Meaty marine ground bait
Ritchworth aqua stim
The old proper oily trout pellets
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #84 8 May 2022 12:58
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Also forgot about the Sticky bloodworm - still have a 'silver flask' in the garage - do you think it will have improved with age? Daren't open the thing incase it explodes!
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #85 8 May 2022 13:46
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My guess is that some sort of alien hybrid bloodworm has been created in there by now. You open that and it could be the end of mankind as we know it. God knows what that many years of fermentation has created. I strongly suspect that's where covid came from.
Goose Goose
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Post #86 8 May 2022 15:24
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Ignore below post, open it immediately and down it in one, you sleep like a baby tonight and on your awakening will have transformed into an adonis with super powers.
Westmidsmoaner Westmidsmoaner
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Post #87 8 May 2022 16:33
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Send it to Russia
Carew Carew
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Post #88 8 May 2022 18:23
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A floating brown paste that you could shape to look like a stick: excellent for close range floater fishing. Might have been called driftwood; I don't recall.
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #89 8 May 2022 18:26
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Yes driftwood still got 2 lots
Carew Carew
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Post #90 8 May 2022 18:33
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Green with envy
g4fne g4fne
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Post #91 8 May 2022 21:02
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Shimano 5000 sized baitrunners
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #92 8 May 2022 23:27
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The flask is different gear, hydrolysed bloodworm compound if I recall, basically they left some bloodworm in water, had it analysed for what signals came off and them replicated it and bottled it.

This was a long time ago just as Eric's angling bought them out.

The “Xs” green boilie was a crab and spirulina number Eric's used to sell.

Sam ( current owners brother ) sponsored me in my second to last BYCAC as funds were tight and by far the best product of there's I got my mits on was two hookbaits, a pastel orange peach and pepper and a red scopex and butyric one, ridiculously effective zig baits. Believe they were called aviators.

The flasked compound stuff for me I used to mix with the bloodworm pellet to form a very sticky mix ( it has blood powder within the pellet ) and Jim Shelley later called it tarmac I believe. Once it solidified you could put them in the casting ground bait pouches and send em to Mars!

scozza
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Post #93 9 May 2022 06:28
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The fermented bloodworm was in a screw top tin. The bloodworm replication was in an aluminium flask type bottle, never rated that myself

The XS was a hell of a bait, I knew some who used it, average anglers started catching everything.
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #94 9 May 2022 08:54
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I had 3 but cast 1 up a 🌳
esoxlucious esoxlucious
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Post #95 9 May 2022 13:43
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origional freefall tubing it was half the thickness of their new stuff and far better
AJG AJG
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Post #96 10 May 2022 13:05
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Aqua aqualite
TopgunAdams TopgunAdams
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Post #97 12 May 2022 10:13
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Richworth Tutti's a great bait for me and badly missed I caught my first 40lb plus in France from a tricky venue on this bait. Not discontinued as many alternatives available but none even close to the original
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