Two anglers fined £600 each for night fishing on Furzton... ouch.
Would you drop someone in it? Just saying, but there's people night fishing a syndicate water just up the road from me. Been bivvies on there all the way through lockdown... 3 on there setting up as I walked past the lake as the light was fading this evening...
Would you drop someone in it? Just saying, but there's people night fishing a syndicate water just up the road from me. Been bivvies on there all the way through lockdown... 3 on there setting up as I walked past the lake as the light was fading this evening...
In reply to Post #1
Bailiffs are allowed in some cases as it's seen as essential
Bailiffs are allowed in some cases as it's seen as essential
Would I drop them in it...?
Answer is...no...
Answer is...no...
In reply to Post #1
Funny how, in the November lockdown that you were allowed to night fish, even though the law said you weren't allowed to stay away from your home overnight, to now, not allowed to night fish, with the law stating exactly the same
Funny how, in the November lockdown that you were allowed to night fish, even though the law said you weren't allowed to stay away from your home overnight, to now, not allowed to night fish, with the law stating exactly the same
I no of a syndicate near me who has basically “employed” all there members as bailiffs so they can still go and fish, obviously they don't get paid or any thing but still get to finish and they have been all the way through
In reply to Post #5
Night fishing Furzton when the rules are what they are is deserving of the fines for such stupidity, if one is so hellbent on breaking rules then at least be smart about it. I know of a couple of local syndicates that have also allowed members to fish overnight under the "bailiff/fisheries management" thing. Would I report it? Absolutely not, I've no right or interest to interfere with other people's desire or business. It doesn't particularly bother me either, it's not as if fish are crawling up the lines on the hard waters I fish anyway at the moment!
Night fishing Furzton when the rules are what they are is deserving of the fines for such stupidity, if one is so hellbent on breaking rules then at least be smart about it. I know of a couple of local syndicates that have also allowed members to fish overnight under the "bailiff/fisheries management" thing. Would I report it? Absolutely not, I've no right or interest to interfere with other people's desire or business. It doesn't particularly bother me either, it's not as if fish are crawling up the lines on the hard waters I fish anyway at the moment!
In reply to Post #4
The November lockdown was different to this one as you were allowed unlimited outside “exercise” which was fishing included and this lockdown it's limited outdoors “exercise”
The November lockdown was different to this one as you were allowed unlimited outside “exercise” which was fishing included and this lockdown it's limited outdoors “exercise”
In reply to Post #7
Limited to once a day, with no specified time? But same rules apply for both, no staying away from your home overnight
Limited to once a day, with no specified time? But same rules apply for both, no staying away from your home overnight
In reply to Post #8
Was just unlimited, that's why nights were allowed. This lockdown you are limited
Was just unlimited, that's why nights were allowed. This lockdown you are limited
That's what's wrong with this country too many ignorant idiots breaking or bending the rules to suit themselves.
It's so bloody selfish
It's so bloody selfish
In reply to Post #9
That's the issue limited to what? 23 hours? 2 hours? You can quite easily do a night in under 12 hours. So if in both lockdowns staying away from home overnight is prohibited, then what law has actually changed?
That's the issue limited to what? 23 hours? 2 hours? You can quite easily do a night in under 12 hours. So if in both lockdowns staying away from home overnight is prohibited, then what law has actually changed?
In reply to Post #11
Don't think in the second lockdown there was anything saying you couldn't stay away from home overnight? But the first and latest lockdown there is that's why night fishing isn't allowed
Don't think in the second lockdown there was anything saying you couldn't stay away from home overnight? But the first and latest lockdown there is that's why night fishing isn't allowed
In reply to Post #12
Definitely was, the angling trust used an excuse of because you were fishing, you wasnt technically camping, and therefore a legitimate reason to be away from your home overnight. Except we all know that 99% of anglers who fish overnight will be effectively camping
Definitely was, the angling trust used an excuse of because you were fishing, you wasnt technically camping, and therefore a legitimate reason to be away from your home overnight. Except we all know that 99% of anglers who fish overnight will be effectively camping
In reply to Post #10
agreed - and too many people saying it's ok
how about this...?
if they were breaking syndicate rules - smoking weed / using tackle that was banned / taking fish for the pot / whatever.... would you shop them then?
agreed - and too many people saying it's ok
how about this...?
if they were breaking syndicate rules - smoking weed / using tackle that was banned / taking fish for the pot / whatever.... would you shop them then?
In reply to Post #14
I'm not saying it ok, just trying to understand the rationale behind it. I mean you can rock up to a lake during the day for 10 hours cast, out have a kip, wind in and that is perfectly ok, do the same at night, and suddenly it's an issue? Obviously staying away from your home overnight is probably the main one, but, it was exactly the same as the November lockdown.
I'm not saying it ok, just trying to understand the rationale behind it. I mean you can rock up to a lake during the day for 10 hours cast, out have a kip, wind in and that is perfectly ok, do the same at night, and suddenly it's an issue? Obviously staying away from your home overnight is probably the main one, but, it was exactly the same as the November lockdown.
In reply to Post #13
In the last lockdown you were allowed unlimited time for outdoor recreation so night fishing was fine. This lockdown there doesn't seem to be anything about outdoor recreation allowed and is probably why a lot of lakes closed straight away. The Angling Trust then managed to persuade the government that fishing is “exercise” so was allowed again but days only (no actual times given but we all have a rough idea what days only are) It would be hard to argue you were exercising while fast asleep at 3am in your bivvy 😂
In the last lockdown you were allowed unlimited time for outdoor recreation so night fishing was fine. This lockdown there doesn't seem to be anything about outdoor recreation allowed and is probably why a lot of lakes closed straight away. The Angling Trust then managed to persuade the government that fishing is “exercise” so was allowed again but days only (no actual times given but we all have a rough idea what days only are) It would be hard to argue you were exercising while fast asleep at 3am in your bivvy 😂
In reply to Post #2
Yes but you still can't night fish as a bailiff.
Yes but you still can't night fish as a bailiff.
In reply to Post #16
I dont think it particularly matters how you describe fishing, if its deemed ok, then either or I suppose. But if you are fishing as per the November lockdown as recreational, and fishing this lockdown as exercise, the rules were clear, you wasnt allowed to stay out overnight according to the government guidance.
I dont think it particularly matters how you describe fishing, if its deemed ok, then either or I suppose. But if you are fishing as per the November lockdown as recreational, and fishing this lockdown as exercise, the rules were clear, you wasnt allowed to stay out overnight according to the government guidance.
In reply to Post #18
I don't get what's so hard to understand? Last lockdown you was allowed to night fish and this one you're not 🤷🏻♂️
Not every lockdown is going to be exactly the same. You was allowed to get your hair cut last lockdown but not this one so should we all moan about how comes it was allowed last lockdown but not this one?
I agree that fishing is fishing no matter what but it wasn't allowed at all at the beginning of this lockdown but now it's been allowed for days only, some people are never happy. If it was a choice of days only or no fishing then I'd happily take the days only
I don't get what's so hard to understand? Last lockdown you was allowed to night fish and this one you're not 🤷🏻♂️
Not every lockdown is going to be exactly the same. You was allowed to get your hair cut last lockdown but not this one so should we all moan about how comes it was allowed last lockdown but not this one?
I agree that fishing is fishing no matter what but it wasn't allowed at all at the beginning of this lockdown but now it's been allowed for days only, some people are never happy. If it was a choice of days only or no fishing then I'd happily take the days only
In reply to Post #19
Agreed, we are lucky, golf, tennis etc not allowed at all!
Agreed, we are lucky, golf, tennis etc not allowed at all!
In reply to Post #19
My point being, the excuse being used is you're not allowed to stay away from your home overnight, this rule was in place in November, so now why is it deemed you cant night fish?
Same rule, 2 different outcomes, btw I'm not trying to find loop holes, I fully support no night fishing, as should of been the case in November, but the logic of suddenly taking it away again doesnt make sense, it was there in black and white, except this time we now have to adhere to it
My point being, the excuse being used is you're not allowed to stay away from your home overnight, this rule was in place in November, so now why is it deemed you cant night fish?
Same rule, 2 different outcomes, btw I'm not trying to find loop holes, I fully support no night fishing, as should of been the case in November, but the logic of suddenly taking it away again doesnt make sense, it was there in black and white, except this time we now have to adhere to it
In reply to Post #21
I don't think the rules are made objectively mate, or we may not be fishing at all. I agree though, a lockdown in Nov with night fishing should follow a lock down in Jan with the same. If we hadn't come out of lockdown for a religious holiday in December , and stayed in through to now, would we be still on the banks at night?
I don't think the rules are made objectively mate, or we may not be fishing at all. I agree though, a lockdown in Nov with night fishing should follow a lock down in Jan with the same. If we hadn't come out of lockdown for a religious holiday in December , and stayed in through to now, would we be still on the banks at night?
No I wouldn't shop anyone but I'd be dissapointed they were night fishing - for society as a whole and the fact that rule breakers will simply delay the date by which we can night fish.
This lockdown was because of higher hospitalisation numbers than before so it's clear to see why it is more restrictive.
This lockdown was because of higher hospitalisation numbers than before so it's clear to see why it is more restrictive.
In reply to Post #22
Agreed, I would almost guarantee when the rules were knocked up, they didnt even know fishing overnight existed.
If we were still in the standard tier 4 scenario, then it's quite possible night fishing would still be allowed.
Agreed, I would almost guarantee when the rules were knocked up, they didnt even know fishing overnight existed.
If we were still in the standard tier 4 scenario, then it's quite possible night fishing would still be allowed.
In reply to Post #1
No.
No.
In reply to Post #25
Spot on Yonny. Everyone can look to their own conscience and make a call on what they think is right. For me that is staying in.
Only a certain type of person grasses on another. If you've got a real problem with them go and have a chat and see what they have to say about their reasons.
Spot on Yonny. Everyone can look to their own conscience and make a call on what they think is right. For me that is staying in.
Only a certain type of person grasses on another. If you've got a real problem with them go and have a chat and see what they have to say about their reasons.
It's too cold anyway!!!🤣🤣 happy to be tucked up with the wife
In reply to Post #27
Agreed all the poor me..,,posts, my mental health bla bla bla. It could be worse at the least it's happening when the weather is not great.
Stay at home protect the nhs 👍🏼
Agreed all the poor me..,,posts, my mental health bla bla bla. It could be worse at the least it's happening when the weather is not great.
Stay at home protect the nhs 👍🏼
In reply to Post #26
Spot on. There'll be plenty of time for angler's taking the piss to justify their actions down the line.
Spot on. There'll be plenty of time for angler's taking the piss to justify their actions down the line.
A genuine question; at what point does fishing at night become overnight?
If I work 10 hour days, and want my allowed 'exercise', in the form of fishing from say 8-11pm when I finish work, technically I am night fishing. Is that within the rules?
Or do a late shift 2-10, get a couple of hours fishing exercise in before bed?
Right now even with awful weather, those are actually pretty good times for big roach on fishable rivers!
As it happens I have done some agency shifts, around 30 miles from home, early mornings from 4-8 then gone fishing for the rest of the day at the lake which is 14 miles away back towards home. Pike fishing at its best, and using work and fishing together to stay local.
Do I care whether others may be doing nights on their waters?
Nope, up to them, I'm not going to drop them in it.
If I work 10 hour days, and want my allowed 'exercise', in the form of fishing from say 8-11pm when I finish work, technically I am night fishing. Is that within the rules?
Or do a late shift 2-10, get a couple of hours fishing exercise in before bed?
Right now even with awful weather, those are actually pretty good times for big roach on fishable rivers!
As it happens I have done some agency shifts, around 30 miles from home, early mornings from 4-8 then gone fishing for the rest of the day at the lake which is 14 miles away back towards home. Pike fishing at its best, and using work and fishing together to stay local.
Do I care whether others may be doing nights on their waters?
Nope, up to them, I'm not going to drop them in it.
We're very fortunate to be allowed to fish at all given that tennis golf etc aren't allowed.
If we start getting bad publicity due to breaches then we'll lose it entirely and the venues will lose their livelihood.
Would I report them, yes if I knew details that could help catch them. They're breaking the law thats been put in place to help save lives.
Any bull excuses are just that and demonstrate their own arrogance.
Most venues have times that are designated as Nights so that would generally suggest a time to leave.
Outside of that, just look at whether its dark, if it is then its night.
I'd love to be able to fish right now with my brother but he's in the next town so one of us would have to leave our local area and we can't fish right together as we're different households so we aren't doing it.
Could I do it and probably get away with it, yes but I'm not going to because not I'm not an idiot.
If we start getting bad publicity due to breaches then we'll lose it entirely and the venues will lose their livelihood.
Would I report them, yes if I knew details that could help catch them. They're breaking the law thats been put in place to help save lives.
Any bull excuses are just that and demonstrate their own arrogance.
Most venues have times that are designated as Nights so that would generally suggest a time to leave.
Outside of that, just look at whether its dark, if it is then its night.
I'd love to be able to fish right now with my brother but he's in the next town so one of us would have to leave our local area and we can't fish right together as we're different households so we aren't doing it.
Could I do it and probably get away with it, yes but I'm not going to because not I'm not an idiot.
In reply to Post #30
Good point, I know a couple of river anglers who solely fish during the hours of darkness and into the early hours, as this gives them a better chance of a fish. Surely this is no different to someone going out for a run late at night, which would be deemed acceptable
Good point, I know a couple of river anglers who solely fish during the hours of darkness and into the early hours, as this gives them a better chance of a fish. Surely this is no different to someone going out for a run late at night, which would be deemed acceptable
In today's papers, there is talk of pubs opening in April but not serving beer. Surely it can't be much longer before they allow night fishing
Surely the fishery should have been fined aswell for allowing it, most lakes near me are strictly opened for day light hours only, although I fish a private lake to myself, on private property and the owner has said they don't mind if I do fish overnight, but I have stuck to days as that is the rules of this lock down. Would I grass any one up? Depends if someone on there own probably not but if a couple of blokes taking the piss having a social the I'd think about it but probably still wouldn't as I just don't like grassing lol
In reply to Post #34
The fishery is an open park lake, although mkaa have the fishing rights, they have zero control of who turns up
The fishery is an open park lake, although mkaa have the fishing rights, they have zero control of who turns up
In reply to Post #35
Oh fair enough I thought it was a day ticket
Oh fair enough I thought it was a day ticket
In reply to Post #33
Pubs opening but not serving beer...
That'll catch on
Pubs opening but not serving beer...
That'll catch on
In reply to Post #37
Take away only initially
Take away only initially
In reply to Post #38
Ah I see...
My local have said all along that the take away option just isn't financially viable for them. The price they have to charge to make a profit / cover running costs etc. means that they're selling at a price way above the supermarkets for the same product.
Ah I see...
My local have said all along that the take away option just isn't financially viable for them. The price they have to charge to make a profit / cover running costs etc. means that they're selling at a price way above the supermarkets for the same product.
In reply to Post #38
https://youtu.be/tf3aJx7D7YA
https://youtu.be/tf3aJx7D7YA
In reply to Post #1
No, because I'm not Bertie Smalls.
No, because I'm not Bertie Smalls.
In reply to Post #41
I have to enter people's homes wearing PPE every day
While people sit at home moaning
So if I go fishing I should be able to go for the night then if I wear my PPE😂
I have to enter people's homes wearing PPE every day
While people sit at home moaning
So if I go fishing I should be able to go for the night then if I wear my PPE😂
In reply to Post #37
Cinemas are opening, but not showing films 😂
Cinemas are opening, but not showing films 😂
In reply to Post #43
Food shops opening ,but cant sell food...!!..sic...!!
😷
Food shops opening ,but cant sell food...!!..sic...!!
😷
In reply to Post #44
Might go tonight and get the allusive snow carp shot , wearing my face visor and breathing
Apparatus #COVID
I'm just going nuts not being able to go fishing , so excuse my rants 🎣
Might go tonight and get the allusive snow carp shot , wearing my face visor and breathing
Apparatus #COVID
I'm just going nuts not being able to go fishing , so excuse my rants 🎣
In reply to Post #37
Brothels open but legs are shut
Brothels open but legs are shut
In reply to Post #45
Ihear you - but to be fair the weather has been sh*te anyway, most of the lakes round me have been flooded out
I'd almost certainly have been pissing in the wind if I had fished through this anyway
Ihear you - but to be fair the weather has been sh*te anyway, most of the lakes round me have been flooded out
I'd almost certainly have been pissing in the wind if I had fished through this anyway
In reply to Post #47
Looking on Google news yesterday and seen 2 anglers got caught night fishing and received heavy fines, to many people rule breaking will only result in fishing being locked down, be satisfied fishing days, its better than sitting in the house
Looking on Google news yesterday and seen 2 anglers got caught night fishing and received heavy fines, to many people rule breaking will only result in fishing being locked down, be satisfied fishing days, its better than sitting in the house
Don't understand some people are they really that desperate to night fish, they get caught they deserve everything that's coming the problem is as said the minority will spoil it for the majority.
On another note I went for the day Saturday first time since the start of this lockdown, fish were active but nothing to show for my efforts absolutely froze come the afternoon/ early evening the only bonus was my feet stayed warm nearly all day they're normally froze within an hour I tried out my Sabre neoprene wellies off the wife for Christmas they were bob on nice bit of grip on the slopping banks felt sure footed enough then back home for a home cooked stew by 6pm.
On another note I went for the day Saturday first time since the start of this lockdown, fish were active but nothing to show for my efforts absolutely froze come the afternoon/ early evening the only bonus was my feet stayed warm nearly all day they're normally froze within an hour I tried out my Sabre neoprene wellies off the wife for Christmas they were bob on nice bit of grip on the slopping banks felt sure footed enough then back home for a home cooked stew by 6pm.
In reply to Post #49
Totally agree re night fishing restrictions
You cant go, so shut up whinging
Totally agree re night fishing restrictions
You cant go, so shut up whinging
In reply to Post #50
Straight to the point Joss, I agree.
And I would add, those breaking / bending the rules just stop it you selfish bast***s you'll spoil it for everyone
Straight to the point Joss, I agree.
And I would add, those breaking / bending the rules just stop it you selfish bast***s you'll spoil it for everyone
In reply to Post #51
it just does my head in people whining about going bloody night fishing for the sake of whining ...
if we all do as advised, then surely we will have a better chance of night fishing when spring/summer comes.
it just does my head in people whining about going bloody night fishing for the sake of whining ...
if we all do as advised, then surely we will have a better chance of night fishing when spring/summer comes.
In reply to Post #50
Agreed
Agreed
In reply to Post #50
Spot on Once again so called carp anglers showing their own self entitled true colours. A side of the hobby I truly detest.
Spot on
Once again so called carp anglers showing their own self entitled true colours. A side of the hobby I truly detest.
In reply to Post #50
Well said that man
I fail to understand how the current rules are hard to understand. No night fishing, simple. Just like no golf, no pubs, no shops, no visiting elderly relatives in care, no visiting hospitals, no travel unless necessary etc etc. Night fishing pales in to insignificance right now and those banging on about it need to realise how blinkered and selfish some of their comments are.
One thing this pandemic has highlighted in just how stupid a worryingly large percentage of our population really are. Social media is toxic right now, I cant even pop in to FB for 5 minutes without seeing something that drives me insane!
Well said that man
I fail to understand how the current rules are hard to understand. No night fishing, simple. Just like no golf, no pubs, no shops, no visiting elderly relatives in care, no visiting hospitals, no travel unless necessary etc etc. Night fishing pales in to insignificance right now and those banging on about it need to realise how blinkered and selfish some of their comments are.
One thing this pandemic has highlighted in just how stupid a worryingly large percentage of our population really are. Social media is toxic right now, I cant even pop in to FB for 5 minutes without seeing something that drives me insane!
Thing is that its not just the morons that go fishing, the media are the worst culprits of it all.... Spent the whole of xmas stating that the government were not doing enough and that the country should be on lockdown, now that we are in lockdown all that they are doing is speculating when lockdown will end and every 5pm briefing wasting the questions to ask when will they see it ending. Lets just let them use the facts and figures to understand when we can start to ease restrictions and then will see what the prioritys are rather than can i go play tennis again or night fish. I would love to have been able to keep doing my 1 night a week between work as at the moment I cant disapeer off for a day session at the weekend as my wife has been schooling the kids all week and needs a hand, but i cant so just get on with it and wait for the warmer days
In reply to Post #56
good ole media hey
good ole media hey
In reply to Post #56
In reply to Post #56
Good post, very true
Good post, very true
In reply to Post #56
Some simple truths there fella
Although... I don't think Laura kuenssberg is telling people to bivvy up for a 48hr session...
Some simple truths there fella
Although... I don't think Laura kuenssberg is telling people to bivvy up for a 48hr session...
In reply to Post #55
You mean the same rules that were there in November but everyone was allowed to night fish? Same set of rules but 2 different outcomes? Hows that even possible?
You mean the same rules that were there in November but everyone was allowed to night fish? Same set of rules but 2 different outcomes? Hows that even possible?
In reply to Post #61
Because the amount of infections before lockdown 3 were way higher than lockdown 2?
It's funny innit, most years people don't fish at all thru late December til march, its now a disgusting breach of their human rights that they can't travel across the country to pay ££££ to blank at a lake
Because the amount of infections before lockdown 3 were way higher than lockdown 2?
It's funny innit, most years people don't fish at all thru late December til march, its now a disgusting breach of their human rights that they can't travel across the country to pay ££££ to blank at a lake
In reply to Post #62
It matters not to me, the days of camping out in the winter are long gone, you cant get old if you dont get wise.
In regards to the infection rate, it didnt matter, as I said earlier it was in black and white, exactly the same. I think very few people actually understood what the government rules were, they just simply took the angling trusts word for it, instead of using a little bit of common sense.
It matters not to me, the days of camping out in the winter are long gone, you cant get old if you dont get wise.
In regards to the infection rate, it didnt matter, as I said earlier it was in black and white, exactly the same. I think very few people actually understood what the government rules were, they just simply took the angling trusts word for it, instead of using a little bit of common sense.
In reply to Post #62
I have a much higher success rate in winter, particularly February, its my favourite time to be on the bank. The 40 in my profile pic i caught in Feb 2019. I personally think its mad that covid comes out after dark which means we can only fish during the day. I am literally going insane working all day, in a high stress job with no release other than going for a walk.. Fishing is my only release and fix for my mental health issues. i have done 1 day session which i enjoyed but its hard work in winter taking all the gear required to keep warm, I was shattered afterwards. Its not the same as having 24/48 hrs to relax.
Ontop of that my kids are cooped up and going crazy, my 5yr old daughter is 100 miles an hr, with more energy than a bugatti with nothing to do , while my 10yr old autistic son doesn't want to leave his bedroom even for a walk as he hates exercise and is turning into a recluse. (He would come fishing with me)
I know we are all in the same boat and lucky to even fish days locally but its still crap.
Let's hope the restrictions are eased from the end of the month before I crack
I have a much higher success rate in winter, particularly February, its my favourite time to be on the bank. The 40 in my profile pic i caught in Feb 2019. I personally think its mad that covid comes out after dark which means we can only fish during the day. I am literally going insane working all day, in a high stress job with no release other than going for a walk.. Fishing is my only release and fix for my mental health issues. i have done 1 day session which i enjoyed but its hard work in winter taking all the gear required to keep warm, I was shattered afterwards. Its not the same as having 24/48 hrs to relax.
Ontop of that my kids are cooped up and going crazy, my 5yr old daughter is 100 miles an hr, with more energy than a bugatti with nothing to do , while my 10yr old autistic son doesn't want to leave his bedroom even for a walk as he hates exercise and is turning into a recluse. (He would come fishing with me)
I know we are all in the same boat and lucky to even fish days locally but its still crap.
Let's hope the restrictions are eased from the end of the month before I crack
The no night fishing lockdown does seem a rather strange decision, as you're still travelling to and from the fishing location regardless of time scale you are there, but that's what they have decided to implement, so it's wise to comply.
The irony thou when BBC Radio 2's Jeremy Vine was doing a phone in on the benefits of “Night Walking” on Tuesday this week, with people phoning in about doing it all though lockdown, and how nice the night sky looks with the lack of light pollution.
The irony thou when BBC Radio 2's Jeremy Vine was doing a phone in on the benefits of “Night Walking” on Tuesday this week, with people phoning in about doing it all though lockdown, and how nice the night sky looks with the lack of light pollution.
I imagine big groups of anglers having a social and standing around their bivvys on public waters is what has done for it.
Every week. Sometimes daily I cycle through:
Lamorbey Park Sidcup
Danson park Bexley
Dartford lakes
Far too many anglers clearly in a non-household huddle.
Sometimes I even had to cycle through a group blocking paths. having a beer, a chat, no social distancing. sticking out like a sore thumb. The Public see this. The golfers see it. The gym bunnies see it. It gets back.
Every week. Sometimes daily I cycle through:
Lamorbey Park Sidcup
Danson park Bexley
Dartford lakes
Far too many anglers clearly in a non-household huddle.
Sometimes I even had to cycle through a group blocking paths. having a beer, a chat, no social distancing. sticking out like a sore thumb. The Public see this. The golfers see it. The gym bunnies see it. It gets back.
In reply to Post #66
Add that to the fact that many of them will be too far away from their rods
It just gives us all a bad name
Add that to the fact that many of them will be too far away from their rods
It just gives us all a bad name
In reply to Post #67
The Police/EA are not holding back on that rule I believe (Here in Lancs that is) Early January one guy walked back from the next swim after chatting to his mate for a few minutes to find Police & EA officers standing with his gear, with one crouched down sticking “Confiscated” stickers on all his gear!
They prosecuted 48 in the same week for numerous things!
The Police/EA are not holding back on that rule I believe (Here in Lancs that is) Early January one guy walked back from the next swim after chatting to his mate for a few minutes to find Police & EA officers standing with his gear, with one crouched down sticking “Confiscated” stickers on all his gear!
They prosecuted 48 in the same week for numerous things!
In reply to Post #66
Who does it get back to? And who would be making the decision on night fishing? Because by what you described if they are doing it during the day when everyone can see, then stopping night fishing is illogical, as people are just doing it during the day.
Who does it get back to? And who would be making the decision on night fishing? Because by what you described if they are doing it during the day when everyone can see, then stopping night fishing is illogical, as people are just doing it during the day.
In reply to Post #69
I guess it gets back to Govt decision-makers, administrators. local councils reporting it upwards to MPs etc.
complaints by the public to the Police...
It's all about perception. I'm not saying it's right. However, the rule is not to sleep away from home so.....
The hospitality industry would be '' so why are you letting all these bank tramps party it up every night down my local park where I walk my dogs? I had to step off the path just to keep my distance. I saw women and kids looking scared...''
I guess it gets back to Govt decision-makers, administrators. local councils reporting it upwards to MPs etc.
complaints by the public to the Police...
It's all about perception. I'm not saying it's right. However, the rule is not to sleep away from home so.....
The hospitality industry would be '' so why are you letting all these bank tramps party it up every night down my local park where I walk my dogs? I had to step off the path just to keep my distance. I saw women and kids looking scared...''
In reply to Post #70
You see, that was my original point really, it's been in place from the November lockdown, and now its suddenly an issue......
You see, that was my original point really, it's been in place from the November lockdown, and now its suddenly an issue......
In reply to Post #71
I doubt its suddenly a big issue. Just finally gets reached on a list of a thousand individual issues that they
Eventually get round to. Many of which Im sure they hope common sense or at the very least rarity of occurrence means they can ignore.
I doubt its suddenly a big issue. Just finally gets reached on a list of a thousand individual issues that they
Eventually get round to. Many of which Im sure they hope common sense or at the very least rarity of occurrence means they can ignore.
In reply to Post #72
No real issue at the moment, guarantee though it will be an issue if by April we are still in the same boat so to speak, there will be hundreds of anglers looking for loopholes
No real issue at the moment, guarantee though it will be an issue if by April we are still in the same boat so to speak, there will be hundreds of anglers looking for loopholes
In reply to Post #68
serves them right really, so how far apart were the swims ?
I'd like to think if a copper and EA officer walked into my swim i'd have seen them coming even I was in the next swim.
if you are not paying attention or are so far away from your rods then you deserve to get nicked.
Both of my syndicate lakes have the no rods left unattended rule which means no further than 1 swim away if caught breaking the rules you lose your ticket.
serves them right really, so how far apart were the swims ?
I'd like to think if a copper and EA officer walked into my swim i'd have seen them coming even I was in the next swim.
if you are not paying attention or are so far away from your rods then you deserve to get nicked.
Both of my syndicate lakes have the no rods left unattended rule which means no further than 1 swim away if caught breaking the rules you lose your ticket.
In reply to Post #68
Was that on a syndicate or a ticket water?
Not on one of yours?
I was hoping to get out over half term but with lockdown still on I'll probably just wait. It's snowing every other day anyway!
Was that on a syndicate or a ticket water?
Not on one of yours?
I was hoping to get out over half term but with lockdown still on I'll probably just wait. It's snowing every other day anyway!
In reply to Post #75
I got told it was Heapy, no idea which one.
No one is doing over-nighters on either lake, Can't say the same for some other waters in the area thou
In fact a couple of prospective new members were due to meet up Sunday morning, but when one texted me saying they would be late as their gear was frozen - they got a swift reply "Dont F-in bother coming!"
I got told it was Heapy, no idea which one.
No one is doing over-nighters on either lake, Can't say the same for some other waters in the area thou
In fact a couple of prospective new members were due to meet up Sunday morning, but when one texted me saying they would be late as their gear was frozen - they got a swift reply "Dont F-in bother coming!"
In reply to Post #76
Fair play - your gear isn't likely to get frozen in the shed overnight i suppose...
Fair play - your gear isn't likely to get frozen in the shed overnight i suppose...
In reply to Post #68
Less 'criminal' activities like burglaries going on so the police have 'spare' time quite possibly?
Less 'criminal' activities like burglaries going on so the police have 'spare' time quite possibly?
Most of the people saying just wait till summer etc wont even do nights in winter anyway. What is the difference in nights or days? its ridiculous honestly, i always look forward to winter carping ...now wait till summer till everywhere is rammed full of noddys lol cant wait...
In reply to Post #79
It's not the night itself, its the time. If I could nightfish i could travel across the country for a session. You're not going to do an 8 hour round trip for 4 hours on the bank. The aim is to stop people travelling.
It's not the night itself, its the time. If I could nightfish i could travel across the country for a session. You're not going to do an 8 hour round trip for 4 hours on the bank. The aim is to stop people travelling.
In reply to Post #80
Yes, but just ban travel over 10miles to a lake but allow night fishing, make clubs and syndicates enforce it, no different to any other rule needing to be enforced.
Yes, but just ban travel over 10miles to a lake but allow night fishing, make clubs and syndicates enforce it, no different to any other rule needing to be enforced.
In reply to Post #81
It's been said before on this thread the problem is those who fish overnight so they can have a social and drink and drink with social distancing going out of the window. And the 1 in 3 who display no symptoms can easily pass the virus on.
It's that minority which has ruined it for all, the numpties that still go in shops with no masks etc etc.
If these idiots just did what they were told we'd be night fishing by now.
What club / syndicate if going to have the manpower to ensure rules are adhered to and are members really going to challenge those misbehaving? And who wants to risk their name being damaged their lease not being renewed...
It's been said before on this thread the problem is those who fish overnight so they can have a social and drink and drink with social distancing going out of the window. And the 1 in 3 who display no symptoms can easily pass the virus on.
It's that minority which has ruined it for all, the numpties that still go in shops with no masks etc etc.
If these idiots just did what they were told we'd be night fishing by now.
What club / syndicate if going to have the manpower to ensure rules are adhered to and are members really going to challenge those misbehaving? And who wants to risk their name being damaged their lease not being renewed...
In reply to Post #81
So someone who lives 12 miles away is going to stay at home and not fish?
So someone who lives 12 miles away is going to stay at home and not fish?
In reply to Post #83
We just have to accept the rules mate there is no point banging on about this or that
Things will get back to normal
Like I said the fundamental issue is those who just use it as an opportunity for a social - that's the single reason for the no overnights,
We just have to accept the rules mate there is no point banging on about this or that
Things will get back to normal
Like I said the fundamental issue is those who just use it as an opportunity for a social - that's the single reason for the no overnights,
In reply to Post #81
I understand exactly where you're coming from mate. This poxy lockdown lifestyle is awful. This has been so long and restrictive because we've made too many exemptions in the past year. Even when we had a foot on it's throat in the summer. Poor leadership in my view but we are where we are. With vaccines and rules we'll have to put up with it's the only way to get us out quickest.
I understand exactly where you're coming from mate. This poxy lockdown lifestyle is awful. This has been so long and restrictive because we've made too many exemptions in the past year. Even when we had a foot on it's throat in the summer. Poor leadership in my view but we are where we are. With vaccines and rules we'll have to put up with it's the only way to get us out quickest.
In reply to Post #83
Of course not, the whole local movement is abit of a joke, some saying 5 miles, 10, I personally think anything up to 15 miles is local, but that's my opinion. But dont worry the AT are pushing again for more members, they will soon sort it out, or most likely over complicate a pretty simple situation
Of course not, the whole local movement is abit of a joke, some saying 5 miles, 10, I personally think anything up to 15 miles is local, but that's my opinion. But dont worry the AT are pushing again for more members, they will soon sort it out, or most likely over complicate a pretty simple situation
In reply to Post #83
Yep. I'm 7 miles from mine and not been because it's a different county. It can wait.
Yep. I'm 7 miles from mine and not been because it's a different county. It can wait.
In reply to Post #86
I'm sure local is classed as same postcode district...quiet recently i was walking the dog in a local park, and the police were at the entrance turning people away...i was ok as the park was in my postcode region and I walked there. I had a brief chat with one of the police officers and was advised that the definition of local in the current lockdown has been clearly defined by the government and basically is your town / village. I live in sunny Liverpool and have to stay within my district of Liverpool, so depending on then size of your district i would say local was within 2 to 3 miles max....
I'm sure local is classed as same postcode district...quiet recently i was walking the dog in a local park, and the police were at the entrance turning people away...i was ok as the park was in my postcode region and I walked there. I had a brief chat with one of the police officers and was advised that the definition of local in the current lockdown has been clearly defined by the government and basically is your town / village. I live in sunny Liverpool and have to stay within my district of Liverpool, so depending on then size of your district i would say local was within 2 to 3 miles max....
In reply to Post #88
You have to make your case on its merits if you are questioned by the Police. (This statement in context would have been unthinkable a year ago. We have no rights.)
You have to make your case on its merits if you are questioned by the Police. (This statement in context would have been unthinkable a year ago. We have no rights.)
In reply to Post #89
Let's be honest, if you are intelligent enough to create a log in on an Internet forum, you are intelligent enough to know what local is...
People want to bend the rules to suit there own agenda, no one can honestly say they think 10 miles away is local..you could argue say if you live in London compared to Glasgow 10 miles away is local, but we all know if we are using liberal terms to the “local” guidelines.
Would you say a corner convenience shop 10 miles away is your local shop....no you wouldn't....local does not mean nearest.....
This post is not aimed at any one person and is more of a general statement,
Let's be honest, if you are intelligent enough to create a log in on an Internet forum, you are intelligent enough to know what local is...
People want to bend the rules to suit there own agenda, no one can honestly say they think 10 miles away is local..you could argue say if you live in London compared to Glasgow 10 miles away is local, but we all know if we are using liberal terms to the “local” guidelines.
Would you say a corner convenience shop 10 miles away is your local shop....no you wouldn't....local does not mean nearest.....
This post is not aimed at any one person and is more of a general statement,
In reply to Post #90
My local lake is literally half a mile away and I've just been doing one day session a week. I managed to bag my first fish of the year today in the snow a small common of 18lbs. Although I'm missing my night fishing I'm quite enjoying these day sessions at the moment. When I set off this morning I was not very confident at all with conditions being what they are especially when I got to the lake and a large chunk of it was frozen but once the sun got up it was very nice on the back of the wind with the sun beating down on me and I had the added bonus of having the lake to myself all day as well.
My local lake is literally half a mile away and I've just been doing one day session a week. I managed to bag my first fish of the year today in the snow a small common of 18lbs. Although I'm missing my night fishing I'm quite enjoying these day sessions at the moment. When I set off this morning I was not very confident at all with conditions being what they are especially when I got to the lake and a large chunk of it was frozen but once the sun got up it was very nice on the back of the wind with the sun beating down on me and I had the added bonus of having the lake to myself all day as well.
In reply to Post #91
Winter fishing at its best
long may it stay cold and the banks empty lol.
Winter fishing at its best
long may it stay cold and the banks empty lol.
In reply to Post #88
Local has not been defined, it has been down to police discretion to decide what is local, and not all forces are using the same definition. You can google it, there is no definition. On the gov.uk website the definition is ambiguous, and you can travel to access an open space, (or in our case fishery).
It has not been helped by Boris Johnson cycling across from Westminster SW1 2AA to E20, East End of London to the Olympic park, some 7 miles. He does have closer parks to cycle round, St. James and Hyde Park are closer. Add to that, the personal security protection that went with him...
On a local dog walk, I can go through IP1, IP2, IP3, IP4, IP8 and IP9, that is 6 postcode regions or districts within 4 miles of my home.
If I google Ipswich area, I get a map come up, Hadleigh on the West side, Woodbridge/Deben river valley on the East, Wherstead on the South, going up to Akenham on the North. That is an area around 30miles across and 15miles top to bottom.
Local has not been defined, it has been down to police discretion to decide what is local, and not all forces are using the same definition. You can google it, there is no definition. On the gov.uk website the definition is ambiguous, and you can travel to access an open space, (or in our case fishery).
It has not been helped by Boris Johnson cycling across from Westminster SW1 2AA to E20, East End of London to the Olympic park, some 7 miles. He does have closer parks to cycle round, St. James and Hyde Park are closer. Add to that, the personal security protection that went with him...
On a local dog walk, I can go through IP1, IP2, IP3, IP4, IP8 and IP9, that is 6 postcode regions or districts within 4 miles of my home.
If I google Ipswich area, I get a map come up, Hadleigh on the West side, Woodbridge/Deben river valley on the East, Wherstead on the South, going up to Akenham on the North. That is an area around 30miles across and 15miles top to bottom.
In reply to Post #93
Just engage brain and apply common sense ie if stopped by the police, do you have a reason that most of us would see as reasonable or not.
Those that say local is not not defined are simply looking to break the rules and hide behind excuses and others.
Just engage brain and apply common sense ie if stopped by the police, do you have a reason that most of us would see as reasonable or not.
Those that say local is not not defined are simply looking to break the rules and hide behind excuses and others.
In reply to Post #94
To name but two... Dominic Cummings and Neil Ferguson... Do as I say, not as I do... Good enough for the goose, then good enough for gander... To expect the public to apply common sense to what is “local” when those making the rules break them with such impunity, and suffering little to zero punishment as a consequence, simply reinforces the “them and us” culture to which we are all now used to... Little wonder there is so much confusion, frustration, anger and downright indignance towards this situation... Personally, I make my own rules upon what is safe, what is right for my family, and what is the correct thing to do... I haven't fished for many weeks now, but that is my own choice, and that of those who run the waters I am lucky enough to have the invite to fish, not that of some draconian law maker (read: breaker) in Westminster... 🤬
To name but two... Dominic Cummings and Neil Ferguson... Do as I say, not as I do... Good enough for the goose, then good enough for gander... To expect the public to apply common sense to what is “local” when those making the rules break them with such impunity, and suffering little to zero punishment as a consequence, simply reinforces the “them and us” culture to which we are all now used to... Little wonder there is so much confusion, frustration, anger and downright indignance towards this situation... Personally, I make my own rules upon what is safe, what is right for my family, and what is the correct thing to do... I haven't fished for many weeks now, but that is my own choice, and that of those who run the waters I am lucky enough to have the invite to fish, not that of some draconian law maker (read: breaker) in Westminster... 🤬
In reply to Post #94
Those that say local is not not defined are simply looking to break the rules and hide behind excuses and others.
I'm sorry I don't agree with that.
Many people, NOT just anglers want to know the definition of local, i.e. a set distance, how many miles they can travel, and consistency across the country. When one police force is fining people for 5 miles, yet others are using longer distances.
To name but two... Dominic Cummings and Neil Ferguson... Do as I say, not as I do... Good enough for the goose, then good enough for gander... To expect the public to apply common sense to what is “local” when those making the rules break them with such impunity, and suffering little to zero punishment as a consequence, simply reinforces the “them and us” culture to which we are all now used to... Little wonder there is so much confusion, frustration, anger and downright indignance towards this situation... Personally, I make my own rules upon what is safe, what is right for my family, and what is the correct thing to do... I haven't fished for many weeks now, but that is my own choice, and that of those who run the waters I am lucky enough to have the invite to fish, not that of some draconian law maker (read: breaker) in Westminster... 🤬
We have become split, by the government, not just over whether lockdown is right or wrong, but over Brexit as well. Divide and conquer used by the government, then those in government break their own rules, and again, not just over lockdown.
Using draconian punishments on minimal offences, when serious crimes go lightly punished. 10 years for not quarantining, when rapists, murderers get less! A £10,000 fine when a burglar or shoplifter gets £250.
We have gotten to the state where the people of the UK have had their freedoms eroded. Not just gradually, but a major storm.
Use common sense? We do. Science has said that outdoors is the least likely place to pass on coronavirus, less likely than in your supermarket. Yet it is outdoor pursuits that have been curtailed, golf, totally stopped, fishing limited.
That is not common sense from the government.
Add to that for many, available fisheries. Not everyone right now can afford a day ticket water at £10 a day, some are still closed, or even fisheries are iced over, so would have to travel further afield. Not everyone has a river within 5 or even 10 miles, or they simply don't know how to fish a river.
Right now on Saturday, it is well below freezing, common sense tells me I don't want to be night fishing, yet come Monday with the weather forecast...
Those that say local is not not defined are simply looking to break the rules and hide behind excuses and others.
I'm sorry I don't agree with that.
Many people, NOT just anglers want to know the definition of local, i.e. a set distance, how many miles they can travel, and consistency across the country. When one police force is fining people for 5 miles, yet others are using longer distances.
To name but two... Dominic Cummings and Neil Ferguson... Do as I say, not as I do... Good enough for the goose, then good enough for gander... To expect the public to apply common sense to what is “local” when those making the rules break them with such impunity, and suffering little to zero punishment as a consequence, simply reinforces the “them and us” culture to which we are all now used to... Little wonder there is so much confusion, frustration, anger and downright indignance towards this situation... Personally, I make my own rules upon what is safe, what is right for my family, and what is the correct thing to do... I haven't fished for many weeks now, but that is my own choice, and that of those who run the waters I am lucky enough to have the invite to fish, not that of some draconian law maker (read: breaker) in Westminster... 🤬
We have become split, by the government, not just over whether lockdown is right or wrong, but over Brexit as well. Divide and conquer used by the government, then those in government break their own rules, and again, not just over lockdown.
Using draconian punishments on minimal offences, when serious crimes go lightly punished. 10 years for not quarantining, when rapists, murderers get less! A £10,000 fine when a burglar or shoplifter gets £250.
We have gotten to the state where the people of the UK have had their freedoms eroded. Not just gradually, but a major storm.
Use common sense? We do. Science has said that outdoors is the least likely place to pass on coronavirus, less likely than in your supermarket. Yet it is outdoor pursuits that have been curtailed, golf, totally stopped, fishing limited.
That is not common sense from the government.
Add to that for many, available fisheries. Not everyone right now can afford a day ticket water at £10 a day, some are still closed, or even fisheries are iced over, so would have to travel further afield. Not everyone has a river within 5 or even 10 miles, or they simply don't know how to fish a river.
Right now on Saturday, it is well below freezing, common sense tells me I don't want to be night fishing, yet come Monday with the weather forecast...
In reply to Post #93
Although I agree with the point in general, I don't think boris' bike ride is a very good example, 7 miles isn't even a warm up for most, and cycling in hyde/St James Park is a pretty ridiculous notion. You don't have to look far for a better example tho
Although I agree with the point in general, I don't think boris' bike ride is a very good example, 7 miles isn't even a warm up for most, and cycling in hyde/St James Park is a pretty ridiculous notion. You don't have to look far for a better example tho
In reply to Post #50
The irony is these people wouldn't be going anyway at this time of year if everything was normal. The vast majority only want to go because they're sat at home on furlough, but if it wasn't for this sh1te they wouldn't have all the free time anyway.
The irony is these people wouldn't be going anyway at this time of year if everything was normal. The vast majority only want to go because they're sat at home on furlough, but if it wasn't for this sh1te they wouldn't have all the free time anyway.
In reply to Post #98
Most folk cycle on their own and during the day - though I do agree they should stay local - if you have an accident you could end up in hospital in another county not the place anyone wants to be.
We keep going off topic here. What is the title of this thread ? please read before posting....and sprouting all sorts because we can't night fishing.
This also says to me those arguing are the ones likely to bend the rules by applying their own interpretation.
And as said let's be honest it's a minority who fish at the moment, a lot of lakes have a lid on them, the rivers are flooded.
The problem with night fishing and we've all seen in in previous lockdowns where we've been able to fish overnight - folk are using it as an opportunity to drink & mix under the cover of darkness with social distancing going out the window all crowded together in one swim - which provides the possibility of transmission - so the argument that your outside does not stand in this scenario.
Those that break the rules are just damaging our sport and deserve to have the book thrown at them, they are not anglers they are something else which starts with the ‘a' word.
Most folk cycle on their own and during the day - though I do agree they should stay local - if you have an accident you could end up in hospital in another county not the place anyone wants to be.
We keep going off topic here. What is the title of this thread ? please read before posting....and sprouting all sorts because we can't night fishing.
This also says to me those arguing are the ones likely to bend the rules by applying their own interpretation.
And as said let's be honest it's a minority who fish at the moment, a lot of lakes have a lid on them, the rivers are flooded.
The problem with night fishing and we've all seen in in previous lockdowns where we've been able to fish overnight - folk are using it as an opportunity to drink & mix under the cover of darkness with social distancing going out the window all crowded together in one swim - which provides the possibility of transmission - so the argument that your outside does not stand in this scenario.
Those that break the rules are just damaging our sport and deserve to have the book thrown at them, they are not anglers they are something else which starts with the ‘a' word.
In reply to Post #98
Duggs, cycling in Hyde Park is a standard 4km loop, with additional routes through the park, so actually it is a decent example, and has been used as a training route, see the quote from The Guardian below
'Our playground': London cyclists find utopia in Regent's Park | Cycling | The Guardian
Hyde Park cycling loop from www.theguardian.com
12 Dec 2017 — The four of us head to the Outer Circle – Regent's Park's perimeter road, measuring a little under three miles and for many years now an unofficial cycle training route. A wide thoroughfare ...
You can do laps, 6 laps equals to and from the Olympic park😉
That is staying local!
Duggs, cycling in Hyde Park is a standard 4km loop, with additional routes through the park, so actually it is a decent example, and has been used as a training route, see the quote from The Guardian below
'Our playground': London cyclists find utopia in Regent's Park | Cycling | The Guardian
Hyde Park cycling loop from www.theguardian.com
12 Dec 2017 — The four of us head to the Outer Circle – Regent's Park's perimeter road, measuring a little under three miles and for many years now an unofficial cycle training route. A wide thoroughfare ...
You can do laps, 6 laps equals to and from the Olympic park😉
That is staying local!
In reply to Post #101
I can only assume you don't cycle and don't know London very well. He'd be better off cycling up and down downing street.
Quite fitting really that it's a 'you could, but you shouldn't' situation
A fitness ride for anyone with a modicum of fitness would be well in excess of 25 miles, and considering the state he was in 10 months ago I don't blame him for heading away from the central London air to give his legs and lungs a workout.
There's plenty to complain about, what him and others get up too, but the fuss in this case is pretty daft
I can only assume you don't cycle and don't know London very well. He'd be better off cycling up and down downing street.
Quite fitting really that it's a 'you could, but you shouldn't' situation
A fitness ride for anyone with a modicum of fitness would be well in excess of 25 miles, and considering the state he was in 10 months ago I don't blame him for heading away from the central London air to give his legs and lungs a workout.
There's plenty to complain about, what him and others get up too, but the fuss in this case is pretty daft
In reply to Post #102
publicity stunt gone wrong...
'let's get Boris on a bike - Londoners love Boris on a bike...'
BTW - night fishing is still not allowed and I'm with JasonM - fine the feckers to the hilt - and any venues that bend the rules and make everyone a bailiff...
publicity stunt gone wrong...
'let's get Boris on a bike - Londoners love Boris on a bike...'
BTW - night fishing is still not allowed and I'm with JasonM - fine the feckers to the hilt - and any venues that bend the rules and make everyone a bailiff...
In reply to Post #103
What everyone that wants to bend the rules needs is a van. I've circumnavigated the m25, zig zagged about within it and ventured miles beyond it all year unchallenged.
Not that I'm condoning rule breaking, obviously.. I'm squeaky clean
What everyone that wants to bend the rules needs is a van. I've circumnavigated the m25, zig zagged about within it and ventured miles beyond it all year unchallenged.
Not that I'm condoning rule breaking, obviously.. I'm squeaky clean
In today's paper: Number 10 sources also confirmed recreational outside sports like golf and tennis will start to be allowed from next month, probably with just one other person. One senior source said that “outdoor sports ... is quite likely to relax in March”.
In reply to Post #104
Vans are brilliant for getting away with things. Park up on double yellows with the hazards on outside a shop, hi viz and a clipboard and no one bats an eyelid. Of course only when no other parking spaces are available
Vans are brilliant for getting away with things. Park up on double yellows with the hazards on outside a shop, hi viz and a clipboard and no one bats an eyelid. Of course only when no other parking spaces are available
In reply to Post #102
Incorrect on both counts.
I know London reasonably well and used to cycle to and from work when I was staying over there, from Romford to Becton and Ilford the stores I was working at. I also used to cycle from Romford to Hyde Park and round it after booking in at the hotel on a Sunday.
It was quicker to cycle than relying on the Underground or other trains.
Heading away from London air? Olympic park is still within the London boundaries. In fact Stratford is one of the busiest London boroughs for business and retail.
Fuss over nothing?
Sorry No, it is another case of governmental "don't do as I do, but do as I say".
Incorrect on both counts.
I know London reasonably well and used to cycle to and from work when I was staying over there, from Romford to Becton and Ilford the stores I was working at. I also used to cycle from Romford to Hyde Park and round it after booking in at the hotel on a Sunday.
It was quicker to cycle than relying on the Underground or other trains.
Heading away from London air? Olympic park is still within the London boundaries. In fact Stratford is one of the busiest London boroughs for business and retail.
Fuss over nothing?
Sorry No, it is another case of governmental "don't do as I do, but do as I say".
What about those of us that work nights, no fishing at all for us !
In reply to Post #90
My nearest supermarket, petrol station and pharmacy is 13 miles from my house. So based on your fecked up logic, that's not local? Maybe I should shop online and get someone to deliver my medication, thus tying up resource that's needed elsewhere for the more deserving.
My nearest supermarket, petrol station and pharmacy is 13 miles from my house. So based on your fecked up logic, that's not local? Maybe I should shop online and get someone to deliver my medication, thus tying up resource that's needed elsewhere for the more deserving.
In reply to Post #109
I like the guy from Eastbourne that traveled to Newquay to surf the Cribbar as it was his “local big wave”
Might have to travel to Amsterdam as its my local red light district 😂
I like the guy from Eastbourne that traveled to Newquay to surf the Cribbar as it was his “local big wave”
Might have to travel to Amsterdam as its my local red light district 😂
In reply to Post #107
I hope you kept to the 5mph speed limit, and managed to avoid the pets, pedestrians, scooters and skaters
If you stick it in the lowest gear and peddle at 250rpm you might manage to get your heart rate up
Until you get cut up by a mobility scooter
big jump in air quality too
Stratford is still pretty rough but miles better than Central london, and it makes a huge difference to your capacity to push yourself
The nearest park I can think of where he can cycle at a decent speed, in relative safety, without choking would be richmond park
And that would put him further away and currently has restrictions
I hope you kept to the 5mph speed limit, and managed to avoid the pets, pedestrians, scooters and skaters
If you stick it in the lowest gear and peddle at 250rpm you might manage to get your heart rate up
Until you get cut up by a mobility scooter
big jump in air quality too
Stratford is still pretty rough but miles better than Central london, and it makes a huge difference to your capacity to push yourself
The nearest park I can think of where he can cycle at a decent speed, in relative safety, without choking would be richmond park
And that would put him further away and currently has restrictions
Some of the folk who live around the lakes in MK are a funny hoity toity bunch... Big mega bucks houses on semi private estates with a nice watery vista. Im guessing its a local resident who called it in to MKAA/Police etc. Would I grass em up....Nope. As much as I want to get out and about either fishing or on my bike, I stay what i consider local..upto 5 miles or so.This severely restricts the above two activities but I really dont fancy taking a chance and driving to my syndi 20 odd miles away just for a day.The mere threat of a hefty fine doesn't appeal..
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