Penn Affinity LTD 7000 Reel Matt black
I see there available now, just wondered if anybody's got one and what there like?
Many thanks
I see there available now, just wondered if anybody's got one and what there like?
Many thanks
In reply to Post #1
I have some,
seem great so far.
Very smooth, no wobble, fairly light, nice clutch.
I have some,
seem great so far.
Very smooth, no wobble, fairly light, nice clutch.
In reply to Post #2
Thanks Tom, think I will give them ago.
Thanks Tom, think I will give them ago.
In reply to Post #3
I heard the Mitchell Avocasts are 95% the same reel. A few extra bearings and very slightly lighter the Penns are twice the money
Hmmmm. Not sure tbh
Sure either is a good reel though
I heard the Mitchell Avocasts are 95% the same reel. A few extra bearings and very slightly lighter the Penns are twice the money
Hmmmm. Not sure tbh
Sure either is a good reel though
In reply to Post #2
They a QD clutch? As I'm in the market for some.
They a QD clutch? As I'm in the market for some.
In reply to Post #5
Yes m8.
Yes m8.
In reply to Post #6
cheers
cheers
In reply to Post #7
In stock here at Erics Angling, give us a call on 01430 440034 if we can be of any help
regards
Andy
In stock here at Erics Angling, give us a call on 01430 440034 if we can be of any help
regards
Andy
In reply to Post #8
Sounds like a deal maybe had....
Sounds like a deal maybe had....
In reply to Post #4
i got the mitchell's over the penn's and saved a few quid
i got the mitchell's over the penn's and saved a few quid
In reply to Post #8
Do they come with two full depth spools? I have seen an ad where it says so, but also some conflicting info on others......? If they come with the proper spare that's 20 quid you don't have to spend on a spare
Do they come with two full depth spools? I have seen an ad where it says so, but also some conflicting info on others......? If they come with the proper spare that's 20 quid you don't have to spend on a spare
In reply to Post #11
ltd's look to have two extra deep mono spools rather than the surf versions that have a mono and PE spool
penns first carp reels (the adds are wrong it isnt penns first venture into the carp market) they used to do powergraph carp rods a baitrunner i cant recall the name of and the carpmaster reel circa 2000-2002
ltd's look to have two extra deep mono spools rather than the surf versions that have a mono and PE spool
penns first carp reels (the adds are wrong it isnt penns first venture into the carp market) they used to do powergraph carp rods a baitrunner i cant recall the name of and the carpmaster reel circa 2000-2002
Got these reels on Saturday and been on a long wkend using them!
All I can say is " WOW! Fantastic "!!
the line lay, the looks, the weight, not to big but big enough,
Feel well built, super clutch ! I can go on.
I have been using shimano top end reels and had a few
So I can compare and these are better! Like somebody
Had said before if these had a shimano or diawa label on them
££££
All I can say is " WOW! Fantastic "!!
the line lay, the looks, the weight, not to big but big enough,
Feel well built, super clutch ! I can go on.
I have been using shimano top end reels and had a few
So I can compare and these are better! Like somebody
Had said before if these had a shimano or diawa label on them
££££
In reply to Post #13
Glad you're happy with the reels but don't mislead people.
A few days back you were asking how to use a front drag reel having only used baitrunners (ALL top end shimanos are front drag even the ci4 baitrunner), yet now you've used loads of top end shimano reels which apparently aren't as good as the penns.
Glad you're happy with the reels but don't mislead people.
A few days back you were asking how to use a front drag reel having only used baitrunners (ALL top end shimanos are front drag even the ci4 baitrunner), yet now you've used loads of top end shimano reels which apparently aren't as good as the penns.
In reply to Post #14
Yea fair point mate. Was using the old shimano baitrunner then xt-a shimano baitrunners for a while,the front
Drag reels I have had I always used to fish with the bail arm open.
But do very much like the penns, and now I'm getting used to front drag work
There good. Ok they are not top end but they are very good reels lets just see if they last like
The shimanos have done me
Yea fair point mate. Was using the old shimano baitrunner then xt-a shimano baitrunners for a while,the front
Drag reels I have had I always used to fish with the bail arm open.
But do very much like the penns, and now I'm getting used to front drag work
There good. Ok they are not top end but they are very good reels lets just see if they last like
The shimanos have done me
In reply to Post #15
349 on Tackle Fanatics - be interested if anyone can better
349 on Tackle Fanatics - be interested if anyone can better
In reply to Post #16
yeah, tacklefanatics 299,- :-)
Ordered 3....
yeah, tacklefanatics 299,- :-)
Ordered 3....
In reply to Post #17
Nice. Off the website?
Nice. Off the website?
In reply to Post #18
Yep, true the site
Yep, true the site
In reply to Post #19
Buzzing
Buzzing
In reply to Post #17
they defo the all black ones on that site?
they defo the all black ones on that site?
In reply to Post #21
The picture shows te new black version..
Will get mine tommorow, wil let you know.
The picture shows te new black version..
Will get mine tommorow, wil let you know.
In reply to Post #22
Aah cheers mate! Couldnt see the picture for some reason
Well fancy a pair of these! reckon u could let me know what the line clips like mate?
they look lovely
Aah cheers mate! Couldnt see the picture for some reason
Well fancy a pair of these! reckon u could let me know what the line clips like mate?
they look lovely
In reply to Post #23
If you look at the image for 1 reel...( 99,-) its the new model..
So pretty sure they are the new version...order 3 single's instead of the set...:-)
If you look at the image for 1 reel...( 99,-) its the new model..
So pretty sure they are the new version...order 3 single's instead of the set...:-)
In reply to Post #24
The name and text is the same as the original version but the picture is the new version. Most companies say "limited" or "ltd". These dont.
Rang them, and guy opened up the system, had to give reference etc. He said they are defintely the new black edition for 99.99. Even though there is 6.99 next day delivery charge, seems a good price
The name and text is the same as the original version but the picture is the new version. Most companies say "limited" or "ltd". These dont.
Rang them, and guy opened up the system, had to give reference etc. He said they are defintely the new black edition for 99.99. Even though there is 6.99 next day delivery charge, seems a good price
In reply to Post #24
Nice one. Just want to have a look at the Line clip... then shell order
Nice one. Just want to have a look at the Line clip... then shell order
In reply to Post #26
the line clip will be good mate.
They are on the older version and they are even good on the cheaper Mitchell avocast which i use as a marker reel.
the line clip will be good mate.
They are on the older version and they are even good on the cheaper Mitchell avocast which i use as a marker reel.
In reply to Post #27
Excellent, think theirs going to a set winging there way to me this week!
Cheers for the help
Excellent, think theirs going to a set winging there way to me this week!
Cheers for the help
In reply to Post #28
What size is the spool in them? Same size as a windcast?
What size is the spool in them? Same size as a windcast?
In reply to Post #29
i asked tom the capacity on a diff thread as he has some.
Capacity is 270m of 0.35
i asked tom the capacity on a diff thread as he has some.
Capacity is 270m of 0.35
In reply to Post #30
As mentioned before, we have these in stock and are competative on price
As mentioned before, we have these in stock and are competative on price
In reply to Post #26
phone hull angling mate,they will be cheaper than anywhere else....
phone hull angling mate,they will be cheaper than anywhere else....
In reply to Post #32
Just recieved mine...
Lovely reels for that amount of cash.
Very smooth, good line clip, fast QD..( like the Daiwa Iso, quater turn from lock to free.)
The handle i did not like, tried my ss3000 handles, and they fit....:-)
Also changed the washers.
There are 3 carbon washers and 3 metal once's.
exchanged the 3 carbon once's for vilt, and now the drag is less quick...and better for my fishing given me more options.
Overall the first impression is they are certainly worth the money.
Time will tell about duration..
Just recieved mine...
Lovely reels for that amount of cash.
Very smooth, good line clip, fast QD..( like the Daiwa Iso, quater turn from lock to free.)
The handle i did not like, tried my ss3000 handles, and they fit....:-)
Also changed the washers.
There are 3 carbon washers and 3 metal once's.
exchanged the 3 carbon once's for vilt, and now the drag is less quick...and better for my fishing given me more options.
Overall the first impression is they are certainly worth the money.
Time will tell about duration..
In reply to Post #33
Is the spool size similar to a windcast z spool?
Is the spool size similar to a windcast z spool?
In reply to Post #34
Hi,
It holds 270 meters of 35/00 line..
Compared to my ss3000's its about the same size.
Gr
Hi,
It holds 270 meters of 35/00 line..
Compared to my ss3000's its about the same size.
Gr
In reply to Post #33
Handle conversion looks great
Handle conversion looks great
In reply to Post #33
Hi Roy: Vilt = felt, perhaps?
Hi Roy: Vilt = felt, perhaps?
In reply to Post #37
Correct as always Ken...:-)
Correct as always Ken...:-)
In reply to Post #33
Look good...
Be interesting to see how they hold up....
Look good...
Be interesting to see how they hold up....
In reply to Post #39
better than isos mart
better than isos mart
In reply to Post #40
Bet there good jim,there gear is usually.....
I will have a good look at lars when he gets a set,or so a little birdy told me......
Bet there good jim,there gear is usually.....
I will have a good look at lars when he gets a set,or so a little birdy told me......
In reply to Post #41
....earwigging under your bridge again troll... 
....earwigging under your bridge again troll...
In reply to Post #42
Yep...
And I'm not letting you pass unless you show me your new bling....
Yep...
And I'm not letting you pass unless you show me your new bling....
In reply to Post #43
....cath said she'll just run you over on her scooter if you don't let me past 
....cath said she'll just run you over on her scooter if you don't let me past
In reply to Post #44
In reply to Post #45
Took them for there first fishingtrip yesterday....
And they needed to perform...:-)
Had 2 40lb + commons and a 31lb common as back-up.
They did not let me down...love em.
Also a very clever line guard on these little baby's...:-)
Took them for there first fishingtrip yesterday....
And they needed to perform...:-)
Had 2 40lb + commons and a 31lb common as back-up.
They did not let me down...love em.
Also a very clever line guard on these little baby's...:-)
In reply to Post #46
Beautys
Beautys
In reply to Post #46
Look really good,first impressions sound encouraging to.....
Look really good,first impressions sound encouraging to.....
In reply to Post #46
They look very nice...and nothing like a few "little un's" to break em in with
They look very nice...and nothing like a few "little un's" to break em in with
In reply to Post #46
prutser ive just 'borrowed' two of those pictures to stick onto the northern monkeys site.
first hope you dont mind
second if you do let me know and ill remove tham asap
prutser ive just 'borrowed' two of those pictures to stick onto the northern monkeys site.
first hope you dont mind
second if you do let me know and ill remove tham asap
In reply to Post #46
Im liking these reels
. But do I sell my Ultegra C14 550xta to fund them 
Im liking these reels
. But do I sell my Ultegra C14 550xta to fund them
In reply to Post #51
Yes yes yes......
Yes yes yes......
In reply to Post #52
im selling my shimano ultegra 14000 xtbs to but some penns, but I don't know whether to buy these or the older LC version (the silver ones) there a bit cheaper.
im selling my shimano ultegra 14000 xtbs to but some penns, but I don't know whether to buy these or the older LC version (the silver ones) there a bit cheaper.
In reply to Post #53
give hull angling a ring...you may be very suprised at the price of the new ones
give hull angling a ring...you may be very suprised at the price of the new ones
In reply to Post #54
find the cheapest price you can get them for then phone them...they will be cheaper 99% of the time
find the cheapest price you can get them for then phone them...they will be cheaper 99% of the time
In reply to Post #52
Gona give it some more thought first mate. The penns do look tarty
omg did i just say that!
Gona give it some more thought first mate. The penns do look tarty
omg did i just say that!
In reply to Post #56
In reply to Post #8
I have recently to take the plunge on these, my first new reels (well new to me anyways) since getting some Daiwa Emblem Baboons over 10-12 years ago. As much as I didn't want to part with them, these reels seem to be perfect.
Called Eric's this morning and they are as competitive as they have stated. £100 each with free delivery and some Shimano backing line. so far. Look forward to hopefully christening them this weekend.
I have recently to take the plunge on these, my first new reels (well new to me anyways) since getting some Daiwa Emblem Baboons over 10-12 years ago. As much as I didn't want to part with them, these reels seem to be perfect.
Called Eric's this morning and they are as competitive as they have stated. £100 each with free delivery and some Shimano backing line.
so far. Look forward to hopefully christening them this weekend.
In reply to Post #58
ye I had that offer from erics as well! I just cant decide whether to go with these or the LC version? does anyone have the lc version and could comment?
ye I had that offer from erics as well! I just cant decide whether to go with these or the LC version? does anyone have the lc version and could comment?
In reply to Post #59
Do these reels have quite a quick retieve as i could do with a marker reel. If i needed some fishing reels i would defo look at these. How do they compare to high end diawa or shimano reels as ive seen some bold statements banded about
Do these reels have quite a quick retieve as i could do with a marker reel. If i needed some fishing reels i would defo look at these. How do they compare to high end diawa or shimano reels as ive seen some bold statements banded about
In reply to Post #60
Why compare them to high end shimano or daiwa?
They are only 100quid each. So would make more sense to compare them to similar priced reels from daiwa and shimano: crosscast x and windcast x from daiwa and shimano Biomaster and navi.
Think i could predict the answer though. Do look good value for money.
P.s. To be fair, i did read a bold statement too until someone pointed out the guys only experience was of shimano baitrunner, so hardly high end. Its in this thread
Why compare them to high end shimano or daiwa?
They are only 100quid each. So would make more sense to compare them to similar priced reels from daiwa and shimano: crosscast x and windcast x from daiwa and shimano Biomaster and navi.
Think i could predict the answer though. Do look good value for money.
P.s. To be fair, i did read a bold statement too until someone pointed out the guys only experience was of shimano baitrunner, so hardly high end. Its in this thread
In reply to Post #61
In reply to Post #61
I have yet to see anyone compare them to high end reels. Are we talking mgs and z45's?
Or high end shims like stellas and daiwas top end saltigas? Or run of the mill surf reels from both companies?
If you want a penn to compare with those high end one then sorry but it wont be the affinity it would be the torque
The affinity is no doubt made to a price. The thing to rember is so are shims and daiwas who have had europe almost to themselves in recent years its only with the advent of okuma that there has been any competition since quantum and the other big players in reels worldwide failed to get hold of the carp bug.
This is penns second attempt at it the first was ignored by many a big loss on their part as the original carp reel they did if you want a comparison isnt far of the old tournaments from daiwa in build quality and longevity, it lacked a few of daiwas refinments though like the spool guard etc
I have yet to see anyone compare them to high end reels. Are we talking mgs and z45's?
Or high end shims like stellas and daiwas top end saltigas? Or run of the mill surf reels from both companies?
If you want a penn to compare with those high end one then sorry but it wont be the affinity it would be the torque
The affinity is no doubt made to a price. The thing to rember is so are shims and daiwas who have had europe almost to themselves in recent years its only with the advent of okuma that there has been any competition since quantum and the other big players in reels worldwide failed to get hold of the carp bug.
This is penns second attempt at it the first was ignored by many a big loss on their part as the original carp reel they did if you want a comparison isnt far of the old tournaments from daiwa in build quality and longevity, it lacked a few of daiwas refinments though like the spool guard etc
In reply to Post #63
Think you meant to reply to other guy.
Think you meant to reply to other guy.
In reply to Post #64
My phone double posted it so it was in response to the last post before mine, well the first bit was.the rest is just general opinion based on owning a few penns over the years and lots of big reels most of which have been not as good as the hype generated at the time of release. For what its worth I think penns are a better buy if you want a fairly low priced reel and wont be overly bothered by resale values on the carp market. For a true idea of what penns are like and how highly valued they are then look at ebay and see how much beat up (looks wise) old spinfishers and stuff like surfmaster 70's go for. One sea angler I know has offered me 150 quid each for my old ones as they have been looked after and will probably still be good in 30 years or so. Ok they may have been superceeded by several orders of magnitude by then but some reels do keep going and have a cult following by people who value dependability its why daiwa still produce the black and gold series charter skippers love them as they are simple robust and cabable of dealing with horrendous angling day in day out, the same goes for the metal spinfishers
My phone double posted it so it was in response to the last post before mine, well the first bit was.the rest is just general opinion based on owning a few penns over the years and lots of big reels most of which have been not as good as the hype generated at the time of release. For what its worth I think penns are a better buy if you want a fairly low priced reel and wont be overly bothered by resale values on the carp market. For a true idea of what penns are like and how highly valued they are then look at ebay and see how much beat up (looks wise) old spinfishers and stuff like surfmaster 70's go for. One sea angler I know has offered me 150 quid each for my old ones as they have been looked after and will probably still be good in 30 years or so. Ok they may have been superceeded by several orders of magnitude by then but some reels do keep going and have a cult following by people who value dependability its why daiwa still produce the black and gold series charter skippers love them as they are simple robust and cabable of dealing with horrendous angling day in day out, the same goes for the metal spinfishers
In reply to Post #58
The ild pm's are a tad older than that your talking mid to late 90's when they were replaced by the emblem s, x and z models
The ild pm's are a tad older than that your talking mid to late 90's when they were replaced by the emblem s, x and z models
In reply to Post #65
I posted before you but your reply seems directed to the person before me who wants comparison to high end daiwa/shimano. I was saying there is no point comparing the affinity to high end carp reels from shimano and daiwa, instead mentioned models from both in similar price range.
P.s. Also you have mentioned penn at length before for lasting and i pointed out then, you are talking about penn reels when penn were owned by a different company. Early signs are good for affinity but its only a few years proof so far, everyone is waiting to see how well they last, me included on an avocast I use as a marker.
I posted before you but your reply seems directed to the person before me who wants comparison to high end daiwa/shimano. I was saying there is no point comparing the affinity to high end carp reels from shimano and daiwa, instead mentioned models from both in similar price range.
P.s. Also you have mentioned penn at length before for lasting and i pointed out then, you are talking about penn reels when penn were owned by a different company. Early signs are good for affinity but its only a few years proof so far, everyone is waiting to see how well they last, me included on an avocast I use as a marker.
In reply to Post #67
they were owned by the same company then k2, its just now k2 have aquired a few more they have created the pure fishing arm of the company to put them under one roof.
they were owned by the same company then k2, its just now k2 have aquired a few more they have created the pure fishing arm of the company to put them under one roof.
In reply to Post #67
yes sorry id taken a point in your post from the previous post and rolled it into one reply
yes sorry id taken a point in your post from the previous post and rolled it into one reply
In reply to Post #68
K2 have owned penn since 2007, so in past threads when you mention they last 10 years, its impossible a penn reel since ownership of k2 has lasted that long. You are talking about reels pre k2 and pre pure fishing. Also Penn reels back in the day were made in usa, now its china.
Fyi I mean no negativity to the affinities or avocast. Far from it
K2 have owned penn since 2007, so in past threads when you mention they last 10 years, its impossible a penn reel since ownership of k2 has lasted that long. You are talking about reels pre k2 and pre pure fishing. Also Penn reels back in the day were made in usa, now its china.
Fyi I mean no negativity to the affinities or avocast. Far from it
In reply to Post #70
you sir are correct mine are proper penns, its the subsequent surfmaster that was produced by k2
they were crap they were not that bad they did actually cast better than the old ones
you know i knew that and ive got it wrong in my my head mine were made before any takeover occured
ill offer the apology now
mine are korean made for years its only been higher end models made in the US
you sir are correct mine are proper penns, its the subsequent surfmaster that was produced by k2
they were crap
they were not that bad they did actually cast better than the old onesyou know i knew that and ive got it wrong in my my head mine were made before any takeover occured
ill offer the apology now
mine are korean made for years its only been higher end models made in the US
In reply to Post #66
Thanks for that reply. I know how long they have been out for, hence my post stating "(Well new to me anyways)".
Thanks for that reply. I know how long they have been out for, hence my post stating "(Well new to me anyways)".
In reply to Post #72
No problem using the pics m8...:-)
And owned most of the high end reels, Basia's , Mgs, XT10000's.
Dont think these are that far behind to be honoust.
Gr Roy
No problem using the pics m8...:-)
And owned most of the high end reels, Basia's , Mgs, XT10000's.
Dont think these are that far behind to be honoust.
Gr Roy
In reply to Post #65
I own 8 Penn Reels.
3 x Affinity 8000 on my NG's
2 x AF4000 on my Barbel Rods
and still use 3 x Surfmaster 70's on my M 1's as you can see in the piccy, rather "battered" but after over 12 years of faultless service I would expect a bit of cosmetic damage.
I own 8 Penn Reels.
3 x Affinity 8000 on my NG's
2 x AF4000 on my Barbel Rods
and still use 3 x Surfmaster 70's on my M 1's as you can see in the piccy, rather "battered" but after over 12 years of faultless service I would expect a bit of cosmetic damage.
In reply to Post #74
Wonder if can get these in the US and if they be much cheaper? Off there in a couple of months.
Wonder if can get these in the US and if they be much cheaper? Off there in a couple of months.
In reply to Post #74
Do you have any pictures of your 8000s mate????
Do you have any pictures of your 8000s mate????
In reply to Post #74
Do you have any pictures of your 8000s mate?
Do you have any pictures of your 8000s mate?
In reply to Post #77
If I'm using the NG's/Affinitys Friday night or over the weekend, I'll take some piccys for you.
If I'm using the NG's/Affinitys Friday night or over the weekend, I'll take some piccys for you.
In reply to Post #75
Doubt the Ltd edition ones are in the US mate......more likely the Surf ones I reckon
Doubt the Ltd edition ones are in the US mate......more likely the Surf ones I reckon
In reply to Post #78
Loverly pods them keith I wonder who makes them
Loverly pods them keith I wonder who makes them
In reply to Post #79
I was not just talking about the comparisin in this thread i have heard lads compare and im sure i saw it in an older thread on here. Look awesome reels but people alwsys get a bit carried awsy with new toys i know i do. I thought my emblems were the best ever till i got xt's now i think they are unbeatable
I was not just talking about the comparisin in this thread i have heard lads compare and im sure i saw it in an older thread on here. Look awesome reels but people alwsys get a bit carried awsy with new toys i know i do. I thought my emblems were the best ever till i got xt's now i think they are unbeatable
In reply to Post #80
Loverly pods them keith I wonder who makes them
Perks of the job Jim That's one I made/designed for my own personal use, as it was designed to fold up and fit into the side pouch on my Army Issue Bergan, also only weighs 900 gram complete.
Loverly pods them keith I wonder who makes them
Perks of the job Jim
That's one I made/designed for my own personal use, as it was designed to fold up and fit into the side pouch on my Army Issue Bergan, also only weighs 900 gram complete.
In reply to Post #82
Titanium Keith?
Titanium Keith?
In reply to Post #58
I had a play with one if the reels when I received delivery on Tuesday night and was very impressed.
Last night I got the other one out if the box and realised that when I turn the handle there is a faint scuffing sound when the rotor reaches the same point. Whereas the first reel was nearly silent and did not make this sound. I know that a different sounding reel may not be enough of a reason to send it back, but I welcome your opinions.
To the untrained ear (my missus as im holding a spinning reel towards heat ear, changing reels and followed by me saying "Do you hear that?"), there is no difference. But to me, I know that it is there and will annoy me. Is it wrong to expect perfection and should I learn to deal with this minor issue?
I had a play with one if the reels when I received delivery on Tuesday night and was very impressed.
Last night I got the other one out if the box and realised that when I turn the handle there is a faint scuffing sound when the rotor reaches the same point. Whereas the first reel was nearly silent and did not make this sound. I know that a different sounding reel may not be enough of a reason to send it back, but I welcome your opinions.
To the untrained ear (my missus as im holding a spinning reel towards heat ear, changing reels and followed by me saying "Do you hear that?"), there is no difference. But to me, I know that it is there and will annoy me. Is it wrong to expect perfection and should I learn to deal with this minor issue?
In reply to Post #84
I bet if you take the Spool off the noise goes - as it will be the Wiper Blade that stops the Line going behind the Spool.
It will go with use.
Post 83:
Yep, it's all Titanium
I bet if you take the Spool off the noise goes - as it will be the Wiper Blade that stops the Line going behind the Spool.
It will go with use.
Post 83:
Yep, it's all Titanium
In reply to Post #85
Thanks for the reply, unfortunately it makes no difference. I thought that may have been the case, so I swapped the spools over and took the spool off.
Thanks for the reply, unfortunately it makes no difference. I thought that may have been the case, so I swapped the spools over and took the spool off.
In reply to Post #86
Just take them back.
Mine dont make any sound, all 3 smooth as silk.
Gr Roy
Just take them back.
Mine dont make any sound, all 3 smooth as silk.
Gr Roy
In reply to Post #86
just check there are no qc stickers or anything silly left or a bit of paper stuck behind the rotor.
ive taken a reel back once that was making a scraping sound and it turned out to be one of those little oval qc stickers had peeled off and got inside the gap in the rotor housing
rather red faced in the shop when they sorted it in seconds
just check there are no qc stickers or anything silly left or a bit of paper stuck behind the rotor.
ive taken a reel back once that was making a scraping sound and it turned out to be one of those little oval qc stickers had peeled off and got inside the gap in the rotor housing
rather red faced in the shop when they sorted it in seconds
In reply to Post #88
Using mine tonight.for the first time, really impressed so far, they feel a lot lighter than my old shimanos, and there really smooth. Al put done pics up tomoz
Using mine tonight.for the first time, really impressed so far, they feel a lot lighter than my old shimanos, and there really smooth. Al put done pics up tomoz
In reply to Post #89
Just in case anyone's interested, here are my old Surfmaster 70's which I wish I'd never got rid of.
Just in case anyone's interested, here are my old Surfmaster 70's which I wish I'd never got rid of.
In reply to Post #90
my black carp version
my black carp version
In reply to Post #91
few pics from last night..
few pics from last night..
In reply to Post #92
Hay brett niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
Hay brett
niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
In reply to Post #93
haha hey dude!!!
haha hey dude!!!
In reply to Post #77
Here's a piccy with the Affinity 8000's
Here's a piccy with the Affinity 8000's
been looking at these for a few weeks now!
are they as good as diawa windcast's? (same sort of price range).
i'm in the market for some new reels!
are they as good as diawa windcast's? (same sort of price range).
i'm in the market for some new reels!
In reply to Post #92
What stainless are they mate?
What stainless are they mate?
In reply to Post #97
I think you will find That would be defiant mps stainless
Kieth makes it himself
I think you will find That would be defiant mps stainless
Kieth makes it himself
In reply to Post #98
There matrix solid tiny Trebles mate
There matrix solid tiny Trebles mate
In reply to Post #98
There matrix tiny Trebles mate, awsome buzz bars
There matrix tiny Trebles mate, awsome buzz bars
In reply to Post #99
Yeah they are awesome mate - where did you get them from?
Yeah they are awesome mate - where did you get them from?
Anyone know if the spools from the new 7000's will fit on the 8000 lc's?
In reply to Post #102
Got them.second hand from.a forum member mate
Got them.second hand from.a forum member mate
In reply to Post #92
What line are they spooled with?
What line are they spooled with?
In reply to Post #104
Brown sublime mate
Brown sublime mate
In reply to Post #104
Brown sublime mate
Brown sublime mate
In reply to Post #106
Are these 7000 size reels as small as a shimano xtb 5500 ?
Are these 7000 size reels as small as a shimano xtb 5500 ?
In reply to Post #107
Not sure about the 5500 mate but I had the 14000 version and they do feel smaller but I think its just cos ther lighter, they feel lighter to me anyway, in reality I reckon there probs about the same size or sonewere invetween the 5500 and the 14000
Not sure about the 5500 mate but I had the 14000 version and they do feel smaller but I think its just cos ther lighter, they feel lighter to me anyway, in reality I reckon there probs about the same size or sonewere invetween the 5500 and the 14000
In reply to Post #108
But... Ther a completely different shape so its hard to properly compare
But... Ther a completely different shape so its hard to properly compare
In reply to Post #109
How are you guys getting on with these reels, I'm seriously tempted to try a set...
How are you guys getting on with these reels, I'm seriously tempted to try a set...
In reply to Post #1
Whose doing the best prices on these reels
Whose doing the best prices on these reels
In reply to Post #111
Hull angling & Eric's angling both want £100 a reel when I enquired in the week
Hull angling & Eric's angling both want £100 a reel when I enquired in the week
In reply to Post #110
So far mine havn't missed a beat, pretty well used now.
So far mine havn't missed a beat, pretty well used now.
What sort of weight are they?was going order some black entohs but my local dealer getting some of the penns in soon so gonna have a look at these first.
In reply to Post #114
Think they weigh about 600g
Think they weigh about 600g
In reply to Post #113
Well took the plunge....makes a nice change not to be spending megabucks on Shimano or Daiwa..
Looking forward to trying them ...
Well took the plunge....makes a nice change not to be spending megabucks on Shimano or Daiwa..
Looking forward to trying them ...
In reply to Post #116
Iv cracked as well and been out and bought 2 this afternoon. They seem solid and the weight is 645g
Iv cracked as well and been out and bought 2 this afternoon. They seem solid and the weight is 645g
In reply to Post #117
You won't be dissapointed, simple, straight forward, rock solid and look awsome!!!
You won't be dissapointed, simple, straight forward, rock solid and look awsome!!!
In reply to Post #118
I should have 3 delivered next week. Looking forward to having a play with them...
I should have 3 delivered next week. Looking forward to having a play with them...
Looks like i'll be ordering a set of theses in the next day or so i think they'll look awesome on my Amorphous wiskers 
'omg stop talking like a tart! next i'll be getting black line for them 
i think they'll look awesome on my Amorphous wiskers 'omg stop talking like a tart! next i'll be getting black line for them
In reply to Post #120
Just ordered 3 of them from Hull angling for £295 + 3 free spools of shimano invizitec . Erics was £5 more but didnt have any penns in.
Happy days
Just ordered 3 of them from Hull angling for £295 + 3 free spools of shimano invizitec
. Erics was £5 more but didnt have any penns in.Happy days
In reply to Post #121
Knowing what the trade price is on those, I really don't know how they justify selling them for that.
Crazy stuff!
Knowing what the trade price is on those, I really don't know how they justify selling them for that.
Crazy stuff!
In reply to Post #122
Tom care to share a rough trade price?
Always interested to see what the mark up is.
Tom care to share a rough trade price?
Always interested to see what the mark up is.
In reply to Post #121
You aren't getting tarty by any chance..........are you
?
You aren't getting tarty by any chance..........are you
?
In reply to Post #124
'Help me!'
Only kidding mate, im buying them for a friend
'Help me!'
Only kidding mate, im buying them for a friend
In reply to Post #125
In reply to Post #126
Just ordered 4 from hull angling. Defo the place to go, got a unbelievable deal
Just ordered 4 from hull angling. Defo the place to go, got a unbelievable deal
In reply to Post #127
i keep banging on about hull angling.....cheaper than anywhere
i keep banging on about hull angling.....cheaper than anywhere
In reply to Post #128
they only seem to have daiwa reels on their website
they only seem to have daiwa reels on their website
In reply to Post #129
try ringing them
try ringing them
In reply to Post #130
will do in the morning
will do in the morning
Well after reading the posts relating to these Penn reels I thought I would have a look myself.
At my local shop where I have been taking my custom since they opened I had one in front of me.
To say I was amazed is an understatement , I have had Diawa , and Shimano and still use both , but this reel for £119 even at this is a steal , I am so impressed at that price I even fancy a set.
After all if you want to catch carp at distance get three of these and spend the rest on bait
At my local shop where I have been taking my custom since they opened I had one in front of me.
To say I was amazed is an understatement , I have had Diawa , and Shimano and still use both , but this reel for £119 even at this is a steal , I am so impressed at that price I even fancy a set.
After all if you want to catch carp at distance get three of these and spend the rest on bait
In reply to Post #132
Gona out price the second hand reel market aswel fred.
Gona out price the second hand reel market aswel fred.
In reply to Post #133
Mine arrived yesterday, spoiled them up and going to use them over the weekend.
They are super smooth, lightweight, robust and the quick drag is spot on.
Having used and still own all the top end Shimmys and Daiwa reels over the years I can see these giving them a run for their money..
Mine arrived yesterday, spoiled them up and going to use them over the weekend.
They are super smooth, lightweight, robust and the quick drag is spot on.
Having used and still own all the top end Shimmys and Daiwa reels over the years I can see these giving them a run for their money..
In reply to Post #134
Can anyone who has spooled their affinity 7000 ltd tell me how much 0.40 line they took?
Iv managed to find a spool of nash bullet xt 15lb and want to use it sparingly, say 150 yards per reel.
I just need an idea of how much backing line to put on first.
Thanks
Can anyone who has spooled their affinity 7000 ltd tell me how much 0.40 line they took?
Iv managed to find a spool of nash bullet xt 15lb and want to use it sparingly, say 150 yards per reel.
I just need an idea of how much backing line to put on first.
Thanks
In reply to Post #135
I would say about 225 meters...on mine went 300 meters of 35/00
I would say about 225 meters...on mine went 300 meters of 35/00
In reply to Post #136
I need to stop reading this thread or I am going to end up buying them when I don't need them! Although I do need something for my marker rod!
I need to stop reading this thread or I am going to end up buying them when I don't need them! Although I do need something for my marker rod!
In reply to Post #136
Thanks
Thanks
In reply to Post #132
These reels are seriously making me considering moving away from baitrunners for my main rods for the first time ever....
They seem such bargains and with decent features. I'm not normally a "go for looks" man but they do look damn nice.
These reels are seriously making me considering moving away from baitrunners for my main rods for the first time ever....
They seem such bargains and with decent features. I'm not normally a "go for looks" man but they do look damn nice.
In reply to Post #135
Put your new line on the spool first, then top the spool up with backing, then transfer to another spool, that way the backing will now be 'under' the new line.
Put your new line on the spool first, then top the spool up with backing, then transfer to another spool, that way the backing will now be 'under' the new line.
I got to wait till Tuesday for mine to come. Thats ages
In reply to Post #141
Gives you enough time to order some nice black line for them in the meantime.....
Gives you enough time to order some nice black line for them in the meantime.....
In reply to Post #135
Hi, for line capacity try this:-
http://www.nccoastalfishing.com/linecalculator.htm
Supposed to be OK. Seems OK when Iv'e used it.
You can covert cap from one dia to another.
Or bit trickier, amount of say 200m mainline , say 0.32, plus how much 0.35 backing line required.
Say 50m of backing , i just strip that off i bulk spool onto the floor (keep moving a bit), then wind on reel. Then just spool on your mainline off bulk spool. I use armspan (168cm for me, so about 30 strips) when stripping on floor. Be unlucky to be 1m out or 4m on 200m, normally better.
Cheers BOB
ps justed spooled up 3 Shimano's week back, used them 2 days back, no twist etc etc, bang on. Did them just reeling off spool , spool revolving, as in Shimano recommendation. Did some last year coming off end of spool, matching rotation of reel spool, kept checking for springing off, turn spool over etc etc. At least for mne that didn't work anywhere as good as above.
I measure dia of line with Vernier gauge (pick one up for say £8), not often as manufacturer quotes, i find.
Hi, for line capacity try this:-
http://www.nccoastalfishing.com/linecalculator.htm
Supposed to be OK. Seems OK when Iv'e used it.
You can covert cap from one dia to another.
Or bit trickier, amount of say 200m mainline , say 0.32, plus how much 0.35 backing line required.
Say 50m of backing , i just strip that off i bulk spool onto the floor (keep moving a bit), then wind on reel. Then just spool on your mainline off bulk spool. I use armspan (168cm for me, so about 30 strips) when stripping on floor. Be unlucky to be 1m out or 4m on 200m, normally better.
Cheers BOB
ps justed spooled up 3 Shimano's week back, used them 2 days back, no twist etc etc, bang on. Did them just reeling off spool , spool revolving, as in Shimano recommendation. Did some last year coming off end of spool, matching rotation of reel spool, kept checking for springing off, turn spool over etc etc. At least for mne that didn't work anywhere as good as above.
I measure dia of line with Vernier gauge (pick one up for say £8), not often as manufacturer quotes, i find.
In reply to Post #137
me too,not sure how much longer i can hold on brilliant price aswell
me too,not sure how much longer i can hold on brilliant price aswell
In reply to Post #1
Anybody know where to get some folding complete handles for these reels, love the ss3000 ones Prutser has on his, just wondering where to get some from?
Thanks
Anybody know where to get some folding complete handles for these reels, love the ss3000 ones Prutser has on his, just wondering where to get some from?
Thanks
In reply to Post #145
When I spooled up my reels one of has loaded the line towards the back of the spool to much. Is there anyway to stop this happening? I can't see any little plastic washers to take off.
When I spooled up my reels one of has loaded the line towards the back of the spool to much. Is there anyway to stop this happening? I can't see any little plastic washers to take off.
In reply to Post #146
Add a washer to bring the spool forwards
Another thing to try is to start loading line while the spool is in its lowest position, this will ensure line goes on at the front first. I didn't have any issues when i bought my 8000lc affinity's, these was spooled up with no washers under the spool but i started loading with the line going on at the bottom first, so spool fully forward. This gave me a perfectly even line lay even though the spools are forward taper
Add a washer to bring the spool forwards
Another thing to try is to start loading line while the spool is in its lowest position, this will ensure line goes on at the front first. I didn't have any issues when i bought my 8000lc affinity's, these was spooled up with no washers under the spool but i started loading with the line going on at the bottom first, so spool fully forward. This gave me a perfectly even line lay even though the spools are forward taper
In reply to Post #147
I'd also like to know if you can get folding handles for these reels from anywer. That's somethin is be very interested in
I'd also like to know if you can get folding handles for these reels from anywer. That's somethin is be very interested in
In reply to Post #147
I think if i add a washer it will make it worse as its building up at the back. My other 7000 ltd spooled up beautifully
I think if i add a washer it will make it worse as its building up at the back. My other 7000 ltd spooled up beautifully
In reply to Post #149
You are correct, ignore my previous
Do try the other option though and spool up with the spool starting at its lowest position and attach the line to the spool at the very top.
You are correct, ignore my previous
Do try the other option though and spool up with the spool starting at its lowest position and attach the line to the spool at the very top.
In reply to Post #150
il give that a go this afternoon. Cheers
il give that a go this afternoon. Cheers
1 2 3 and breath
Soon be tuesday there coming
Soon be tuesday
there coming
In reply to Post #152
ye dodge get ready dude!!!!!! ther coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ye dodge get ready dude!!!!!! ther coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Got insomnia mate.
Mods can you change my profile name to Penn7000 please
Mods can you change my profile name to Penn7000 please
In reply to Post #154
something to keep you going until tuesday dodge..
something to keep you going until tuesday dodge..
In reply to Post #155
Kleenex please
Kleenex please
In reply to Post #156
In reply to Post #155
Nice.....
Don't be going sea carping with them will you....
Nice.....
Don't be going sea carping with them will you....
In reply to Post #158
it'll be good to see how that mega expensive line stands up on the D sea fishing
next weekend...
it'll be good to see how that mega expensive line stands up on the D sea fishingnext weekend...
In reply to Post #159
The ultimate test....
The ultimate test....
In reply to Post #154
In reply to Post #161
Sexy! Wat line is that dude?
Sexy! Wat line is that dude?
In reply to Post #162
This is the stuff....
£5.50 for 950m spool delivered ....it looks and feels very similar to the F1 line, not tried it yet but its worth a punt at that price
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1x-SPOOL-OF-STORM-TOURNAMENT-PITCH-BLACK-LINE-POST-FREE-/350836050584?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Fishing_Line_JN&var=620147190033&hash=item51af754a98
This is the stuff....
£5.50 for 950m spool delivered ....it looks and feels very similar to the F1 line, not tried it yet but its worth a punt at that price
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1x-SPOOL-OF-STORM-TOURNAMENT-PITCH-BLACK-LINE-POST-FREE-/350836050584?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Fishing_Line_JN&var=620147190033&hash=item51af754a98
Hull Angling just rang me to confirm my reels will be with me in the morning
In reply to Post #164
mine will be here in morning hope there as good as everyone says they are! getting rid of ma shimano LC for them :/
mine will be here in morning hope there as good as everyone says they are! getting rid of ma shimano LC for them :/
In reply to Post #165
I'm still not sure just yet,
if its worth me selling my long casts. I paid out over just over £700 only a couple months ago for the new CI4 long cast. i would want a good £600 for them. if i can get that then will get a set of these and a jag prolite pod lol
I'm still not sure just yet,
if its worth me selling my long casts. I paid out over just over £700 only a couple months ago for the new CI4 long cast. i would want a good £600 for them. if i can get that then will get a set of these and a jag prolite pod lol
In reply to Post #166
That pods nice ma mates got one but I'm not realy a pod man maself!
I order the penns as there Matt black and go withy Infinitys...sad I no!! Lol
That pods nice ma mates got one but I'm not realy a pod man maself!
I order the penns as there Matt black and go withy Infinitys...sad I no!! Lol
In reply to Post #166
Damien I wouldnt sell your ci4 longcasts for them, the penn's are good for the money but nothing special. Stick with what you have got
Damien I wouldnt sell your ci4 longcasts for them, the penn's are good for the money but nothing special. Stick with what you have got
In reply to Post #168
Thanks for the advice bud, I think I will stick with em for now
Thanks for the advice bud, I think I will stick with em for now
In reply to Post #169
We'll see about that when I get my pics up tomorrow
Got a photo shoot with 3 Penn's in the morning
We'll see about that when I get my pics up tomorrow
Got a photo shoot with 3 Penn's in the morning
In reply to Post #170
I would be careful thou dodge as you are in danger of morphing into Simon who used to do this sort of thing
I would be careful thou dodge as you are in danger of morphing into Simon who used to do this sort of thing
In reply to Post #171
To late fred, I need help
To late fred, I need help
Im trying to go sleep now so Tuesday comes quick Its not working 
Its not working
In reply to Post #173
I have just had a thought
Can I have first refusal on your three when you are bored with them
Well you have to try eh
I have just had a thought
Can I have first refusal on your three when you are bored with them
Well you have to try eh
In reply to Post #174
Good heavens above fred, ive not got them yet mate
Pm me end of August
Good heavens above fred, ive not got them yet mate
Pm me end of August
In reply to Post #170
Come on, Pictures lol
I have now had a play with a set and there lush, feel solid and clutch feels really good. half a turn from locked solid to a free spinning spool. Better that i thought the reels would be considering the money.
Come on, Pictures lol
I have now had a play with a set and there lush, feel solid and clutch feels really good. half a turn from locked solid to a free spinning spool. Better that i thought the reels would be considering the money.
In reply to Post #176
Come on, Pictures lol
Not come yet
Come on, Pictures lol
Not come yet
In reply to Post #177
Mine still ent bludie here so much for next day delivery!!!
Mine still ent bludie here so much for next day delivery!!!
"Reel-gasms"
In reply to Post #179
these reels are by far the most pleasing on the eye even against all the top end reels
these reels are by far the most pleasing on the eye even against all the top end reels
In reply to Post #180
Talk about rose tinted spectacles..........They don't look bad but the handle is RATS. Sorry but just not convinced
Talk about rose tinted spectacles..........They don't look bad but the handle is RATS. Sorry but just not convinced
In reply to Post #180
ive had a set of avocast and these look 10 times better imo....i think the handles look spot on tbh...when i start doing a bit more carping i may invest in a set
ive had a set of avocast and these look 10 times better imo....i think the handles look spot on tbh...when i start doing a bit more carping i may invest in a set
In reply to Post #179
Dodge you 'reely' are a plonker
They do look nice though
Dodge you 'reely' are a plonker
They do look nice though
In reply to Post #183
Can't help it andy. Misspent youth! I think
Can't help it andy. Misspent youth! I think
In reply to Post #184
haha love it dodge!!! lol the driveway
haha love it dodge!!! lol the driveway
In reply to Post #185
Lol I couldn't wait pal, sad **** I know
Lol I couldn't wait pal, sad **** I know
In reply to Post #179
Nice reels. Looking forward to hear how they perform.
Nice reels. Looking forward to hear how they perform.
In reply to Post #179
Mine arrived today too, they look very nice too....
Mine arrived today too, they look very nice too....
In reply to Post #187
Will do. Im on a 6 nighter from this Saturday so hope to give you the full performance on them.
Will do. Im on a 6 nighter from this Saturday so hope to give you the full performance on them.
In reply to Post #188
Who delievred yours guys, mine where meant to arrive but as yet not turned up
EDIT, theyve just turned up
Who delievred yours guys, mine where meant to arrive but as yet not turned up
EDIT, theyve just turned up
Looking forward to when your bored with them Dodge
In reply to Post #179
Dodge , I love your driveway pictures, the reels on the sleeper are positioned to perfection , your a nut case and a massive tackle tart
Dodge , I love your driveway pictures, the reels on the sleeper are positioned to perfection , your a nut case and a massive tackle tart
In reply to Post #192
In reply to Post #192
the reels on the sleeper are positioned to perfection
spools aren't quite lined up
look good thou
the reels on the sleeper are positioned to perfection
spools aren't quite lined up
look good thou
In reply to Post #168
I wouldn't be too set minded on that one. I sold my ISO's when i needed some cash and bought the LC affinity's. i said it then and i'll say it now, they feel and perform just as good no matter how much people want to disregard that statement.
It amazes me that when the affinity's first came about there was doubters and slaters, now everybody is raving, even a few that previously doubted....
I wouldn't be too set minded on that one. I sold my ISO's when i needed some cash and bought the LC affinity's. i said it then and i'll say it now, they feel and perform just as good no matter how much people want to disregard that statement.
It amazes me that when the affinity's first came about there was doubters and slaters, now everybody is raving, even a few that previously doubted....
In reply to Post #192
Here, here.
Here, here.
In reply to Post #166
Longcast Ci4's another level of reel IMO
Dont sell em mate
The Penns do look very nice tbh but think Shimmi's look the 'reel deal' LOL
Longcast Ci4's another level of reel IMO
Dont sell em mate
The Penns do look very nice tbh but think Shimmi's look the 'reel deal' LOL
In reply to Post #197
Using mine as I write this:
Bad bits: handles....that's it!
Good bits: super smooth
Perfect line lay
Quick drag is less than 1/4 turn
Strong construction
I got rid of my shimano long casts for them and I won't b swapping back that's for sure probly half the weight and still smashing it 150 yards with 15lb floro on!!
These are the cheapest reels I've brought ever and so far the best not sure how they will wear but time will tell.
Using mine as I write this:
Bad bits: handles....that's it!
Good bits: super smooth
Perfect line lay
Quick drag is less than 1/4 turn
Strong construction
I got rid of my shimano long casts for them and I won't b swapping back that's for sure probly half the weight and still smashing it 150 yards with 15lb floro on!!
These are the cheapest reels I've brought ever and so far the best not sure how they will wear but time will tell.
In reply to Post #198
What dont you like about the handles Jason and could they be changed or upgraded in anyway?
What dont you like about the handles Jason and could they be changed or upgraded in anyway?
Who,s bored with their purchase yet ??????
In reply to Post #200
Not me fred
Not me fred
In reply to Post #199
To get them to fold flat to pack away u have to undo pretty much the hole thread and the handles could have been done bit bigger but that's my opinion,yeah they can be changed seen a set with wooden shimano handles with the quick fold.
To get them to fold flat to pack away u have to undo pretty much the hole thread and the handles could have been done bit bigger but that's my opinion,yeah they can be changed seen a set with wooden shimano handles with the quick fold.
In reply to Post #199
The ss3000 handles fit !!
The ss3000 handles fit !!
In reply to Post #202
No shimano handles fold like daiwas..
Most daiwa handles will fit. Unless you already have some ss3000's it will set you back £270 for 3 handles to put on £300 worth of reels.
I posted this on another thread about it but the bloke is ignorant and above help or advice as I got no thanks whatsoever
No shimano handles fold like daiwas..
Most daiwa handles will fit. Unless you already have some ss3000's it will set you back £270 for 3 handles to put on £300 worth of reels.
I posted this on another thread about it but the bloke is ignorant and above help or advice as I got no thanks whatsoever
In reply to Post #204
some shims do have a one touch folding handle
some shims do have a one touch folding handle
In reply to Post #205
Really... What ones?
Really... What ones?
In reply to Post #205
Yes do enlighten us
The old Boimaster 4500's had folding handles very similar to the Diawa jobbies
Yes do enlighten us
The old Boimaster 4500's had folding handles very similar to the Diawa jobbies
In reply to Post #204
Hey Jon, just replied on the other thread pal, you only just reminded me about that other thread when o read this post. Any advice or help allways apreciated mate, no offence intended
Hey Jon, just replied on the other thread pal, you only just reminded me about that other thread when o read this post. Any advice or help allways apreciated mate, no offence intended
In reply to Post #208
Just thought i'd post these pics up for people that may have been curious to know what the insides are like. I was giving my reels a good going over and decided i would strip them to see what the inside quality is like, and i must say that although they do quite simple, everything looks and feels spot on. No cheap nastiness it seems.
The drive gear looks to be made from titanium, the pinion gear made from brass, didn't go as far as taking out the oscillation gear, but it seems ok from what i could see. Worm shaft etc seems to be solid, bearings good quality. All in all they seem to be made to quite a high standard and hopefully longevity won't be an issue as this was the main thing on people's mind.
One thing to note for people that may carry out their own service procedures is that the nut that retains the bail assembley is left hand thread.
Just thought i'd post these pics up for people that may have been curious to know what the insides are like. I was giving my reels a good going over and decided i would strip them to see what the inside quality is like, and i must say that although they do quite simple, everything looks and feels spot on. No cheap nastiness it seems.
The drive gear looks to be made from titanium, the pinion gear made from brass, didn't go as far as taking out the oscillation gear, but it seems ok from what i could see. Worm shaft etc seems to be solid, bearings good quality. All in all they seem to be made to quite a high standard and hopefully longevity won't be an issue as this was the main thing on people's mind.
One thing to note for people that may carry out their own service procedures is that the nut that retains the bail assembley is left hand thread.
In reply to Post #209
Respect.
These are gona keep selling and selling and the price you pay new on them its gona have an effect on the second-hand reel market
Respect.
These are gona keep selling and selling and the price you pay new on them its gona have an effect on the second-hand reel market
In reply to Post #207
Those 4500's the aerlex gtrs did ive an ssg that has a twistlock system
Those 4500's the aerlex gtrs did ive an ssg that has a twistlock system
In reply to Post #209
Doubt very much the drive gear would be titanium, probably an aluminium alloy, they do seem very good for the money and if they last as long as my mates freespool Penn's he uses for smooth hounds and tope they will be an absolute steel.
Doubt very much the drive gear would be titanium, probably an aluminium alloy, they do seem very good for the money and if they last as long as my mates freespool Penn's he uses for smooth hounds and tope they will be an absolute steel.
In reply to Post #212
Makes you wonder how much they cost to produce tbh.....
Hmmmmm...look nice but think I'll stick for now to my Ci4's
Makes you wonder how much they cost to produce tbh.....
Hmmmmm...look nice but think I'll stick for now to my Ci4's
In reply to Post #213
Not a huge amount but I bet you shimies don't cost much more and have a much bigger mark up .
Not a huge amount but I bet you shimies don't cost much more and have a much bigger mark up .
In reply to Post #214
These show how much other manufacturers are raping us for their reels!
These show how much other manufacturers are raping us for their reels!
In reply to Post #214
It wouldn't surprise me if shimano make there reels for less money then penn being such a large company they will make them in such bulk would b cheap as chips,but trust me once penn have made there mark in carp industry the price will rocket,they r just being smart with the 7000 as its a hard seen to break in too... So go in with a cheap good looking product and break through once there in price will,no questions asked fly up!
It wouldn't surprise me if shimano make there reels for less money then penn being such a large company they will make them in such bulk would b cheap as chips,but trust me once penn have made there mark in carp industry the price will rocket,they r just being smart with the 7000 as its a hard seen to break in too... So go in with a cheap good looking product and break through once there in price will,no questions asked fly up!
In reply to Post #215
These penn reels look ok for the money, and they are an established reel company so they should be good.
I would be happy buying them , as I would buying shimano, I wouldnt necessarily think I was being ripped off if I bought shimano reels that cost more.
These penn reels look ok for the money, and they are an established reel company so they should be good.
I would be happy buying them , as I would buying shimano, I wouldnt necessarily think I was being ripped off if I bought shimano reels that cost more.
In reply to Post #216
not necessarily. The affinities have been out for years and price has dropped. Ok, the gold styling put most off and thats been corrected with the black version, but they are still good reels.
When the avocast came out last year everyone said the tackle shops say prices going up in 2013. Still havent. At times its just a form of marketing to make people feel they should buy at these prices.
They do look good value. I dont know why all tackle shops didnt just stick to selling them at 120 as they would sell no problem at that price too
to your other post:
I got rid of my shimano long casts for them and I won't b swapping back that's for sure probly half the weight
i am sure you notice the weight difference (20% lighter?) but they are nowhere near close to half the weight mate. LC are not 1.28kg
not necessarily. The affinities have been out for years and price has dropped. Ok, the gold styling put most off and thats been corrected with the black version, but they are still good reels.
When the avocast came out last year everyone said the tackle shops say prices going up in 2013. Still havent. At times its just a form of marketing to make people feel they should buy at these prices.
They do look good value. I dont know why all tackle shops didnt just stick to selling them at 120 as they would sell no problem at that price too
to your other post:
I got rid of my shimano long casts for them and I won't b swapping back that's for sure probly half the weight
i am sure you notice the weight difference (20% lighter?) but they are nowhere near close to half the weight mate. LC are not 1.28kg
Just noticed both the main spool & spare spool have two(2) line clips on
Some more information
In reply to Post #220
I don't suppose anyone knows how limited these limited editions are?
I do fancy a set as a forage into big pits, but I can't see me buying a new set of reels for a while. I may take a look in the new year.
I don't suppose anyone knows how limited these limited editions are?
I do fancy a set as a forage into big pits, but I can't see me buying a new set of reels for a while. I may take a look in the new year.
In reply to Post #220
I wonder why they dropped the Ti bail wire on these.
I wonder why they dropped the Ti bail wire on these.
In reply to Post #222
Easier to anodise maybe?
Easier to anodise maybe?
In reply to Post #218
U have too much time on ya hands to b weighing reels lol but thanks 20% across 3 reels adds up if ya walkin 1/2 mile round a lake hahaha
U have too much time on ya hands to b weighing reels lol but thanks 20% across 3 reels adds up if ya walkin 1/2 mile round a lake hahaha
In reply to Post #224
i dont weigh reels mate. I read on here the penns weight was 640g. So if you think they are probably half, you just double it. Simple and of course no way the LC is double 640g. Nor could the penns be half the real LC weight. That would make them 400g ish id guess off the top of my head, not even remotely close to 640g real weight. I wasnt having a pop, just some peoples exagerations are too far fetched not to comment and we wouldnt want to mislead a youngster
Like i said im sure you notice the difference in weight (whether walking around a lake or not). i noticed a difference when changing reels this year in terms of distance casting, felt weird to me at first like it was less solid but that soon changed as i got used to it and of course I prefer lighter.
i dont weigh reels mate. I read on here the penns weight was 640g. So if you think they are probably half, you just double it. Simple
and of course no way the LC is double 640g. Nor could the penns be half the real LC weight. That would make them 400g ish id guess off the top of my head, not even remotely close to 640g real weight. I wasnt having a pop, just some peoples exagerations are too far fetched not to comment and we wouldnt want to mislead a youngster Like i said im sure you notice the difference in weight (whether walking around a lake or not). i noticed a difference when changing reels this year in terms of distance casting, felt weird to me at first like it was less solid but that soon changed as i got used to it and of course I prefer lighter.
In reply to Post #225
I know mate it's cool was only messing about!!
I know mate it's cool was only messing about!!
In reply to Post #226
Anyone want to sell theirs yet
In reply to Post #228
I am fred
Yours for £500 Billion
I am fred
Yours for £500 Billion
In reply to Post #229
Got fed up waiting and went and got three , to replace some heavier reels as these are a snip
Got fed up waiting and went and got three , to replace some heavier reels as these are a snip
In reply to Post #230
any chance of a couple of pics Fred, and of course a few of the boxes, if there is any literature that comes with them perhaps a couple of close ups of that too.
BTW,
How much did you pay for them and from where?
any chance of a couple of pics Fred, and of course a few of the boxes, if there is any literature that comes with them perhaps a couple of close ups of that too.
BTW,
How much did you pay for them and from where?
In reply to Post #231
When I get home I will do some pics, can't post photos on here due to being a numpty and use a bait boat
But if you pm me your e mail addy you can have the pleasure Andy
When I get home I will do some pics, can't post photos on here due to being a numpty and use a bait boat
But if you pm me your e mail addy you can have the pleasure Andy
In reply to Post #232
Children both of you, now stop it
Children both of you, now stop it
In reply to Post #233
You gotta luv it!!!
You gotta luv it!!!
In reply to Post #225
I am sad so the weight of my Ci4 LC are 642gm with out line
I am sad so the weight of my Ci4 LC are 642gm with out line
Threads starting to get to long! Need 'Penn Infinity ltd 7000 part 2'
In reply to Post #236
These are serious reels for just over a hundred notes ,
The whole rotor locks up for the big chuck when opening the bail arm
Not even my shimmies do that
These are serious reels for just over a hundred notes ,
The whole rotor locks up for the big chuck when opening the bail arm
Not even my shimmies do that
In reply to Post #237
When u get fed up for the shimmis fred give us a shout
When u get fed up for the shimmis fred give us a shout
In reply to Post #237
i picked all three up the other day the 7000, 8000, and the ltd 7000. that bail thing is a nice touch BUT
that handle is terrible its a stupid shape a simple t would have been better and a nice bit of wood would have made the reel something else
i picked all three up the other day the 7000, 8000, and the ltd 7000. that bail thing is a nice touch BUT
that handle is terrible its a stupid shape a simple t would have been better and a nice bit of wood would have made the reel something else
In reply to Post #239
Yeh I must admit the handle is a bit of a dog and functional but for a 100 squid it's a minor irritation ,
Mmmmm me thinks I will get these altered
Oh by the way I,m not subscribed to tart weekly , or true tarts , or any other tart organisation
Mmmmm just had a play and the handle is very pleasing to use and the feel is good , might wear dark glasses when retreiving
After all it is a reel to retrieve line and perfectly adequate to do the job
Yeh I must admit the handle is a bit of a dog and functional but for a 100 squid it's a minor irritation ,
Mmmmm me thinks I will get these altered
Oh by the way I,m not subscribed to tart weekly , or true tarts , or any other tart organisation
Mmmmm just had a play and the handle is very pleasing to use and the feel is good , might wear dark glasses when retreiving
After all it is a reel to retrieve line and perfectly adequate to do the job
In reply to Post #240
i really am not tarty over gear much prefering function and one thing with handles is they get used in cold wet conditions full of slimey bait and fish stuff
so a bit chunky t grip is a must for me
just to prove it some of the reels i use currently all have T's
and some of those should show just how untarty i am
few more some of which now reside in the reel museum in the front room aka shakespeareseat boxes
i really am not tarty over gear much prefering function and one thing with handles is they get used in cold wet conditions full of slimey bait and fish stuff
so a bit chunky t grip is a must for me
just to prove it some of the reels i use currently all have T's
and some of those should show just how untarty i am
few more some of which now reside in the reel museum in the front room aka shakespeareseat boxes
In reply to Post #241
You have a valid point
But these are really comfortable , they just look a dogs dinner ,
Jeeez I think I have spent too much time on here and developed a tarty affliction
You have a valid point
But these are really comfortable , they just look a dogs dinner ,
Jeeez I think I have spent too much time on here and developed a tarty affliction
In reply to Post #242
the paddle shape could work its that grippy stuff on it but its enough to make me think maybe i would not buy them
although if ss3000 handles are easily sourced
and its by no means the worst handle ive seen, who on earth thought stainless or any metal would make a nice material for a handle is beyond me
the paddle shape could work its that grippy stuff on it but its enough to make me think maybe i would not buy them
although if ss3000 handles are easily sourced
and its by no means the worst handle ive seen, who on earth thought stainless or any metal would make a nice material for a handle is beyond me
In reply to Post #241
bloodyhell noodle scrap price as dropped as well
bloodyhell noodle scrap price as dropped as well
In reply to Post #244
Like the look of these reels but what I wanna know is can the reel handles be changed, don't mean the arms just the handle, would like to stick some western development ones on them
Like the look of these reels but what I wanna know is can the reel handles be changed, don't mean the arms just the handle, would like to stick some western development ones on them
In reply to Post #245
You'd have to get lee valley customs or custom reels to machine a spigot but it's possible
You'd have to get lee valley customs or custom reels to machine a spigot but it's possible
In reply to Post #245
Ive just tried my daiwa spod reel handle, fits spot on, only thing is it got a bit of silver on, but all folds nicely, and can still use spod reel with penn handle on.
Ive just tried my daiwa spod reel handle, fits spot on, only thing is it got a bit of silver on, but all folds nicely, and can still use spod reel with penn handle on.
In reply to Post #247
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wood-Pattern-Rotatable-Knob-Fishing-Spining-Reel-Power-Handle-Black-/161075631033?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Fishing_Reels_JN&hash=item2580db13b9
Do you recon these would fit, ?? Are all the threads on the spigots the same size does any one know
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wood-Pattern-Rotatable-Knob-Fishing-Spining-Reel-Power-Handle-Black-/161075631033?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Fishing_Reels_JN&hash=item2580db13b9
Do you recon these would fit, ?? Are all the threads on the spigots the same size does any one know
In reply to Post #248
buy one and find out mate.
buy one and find out mate.
In reply to Post #249
Cheap enough to buy 3 me thinks, Even if they don't fit there's loads of spares on them
Cheap enough to buy 3 me thinks, Even if they don't fit there's loads of spares on them
In reply to Post #63
Went on a reel sortie yesterday , checked out the penns, avid carp , and daiwa entoh tourni qd. The avid carp is an unkown but looks well made and has a nice handle compared to the penn.but is slightly heavier. The daiwa is class and it shows through and is the best of the bunch but it should be at that price.The penn on close inspection, its build looks on the cheap side matching its £120 price tag. I dont like the handle and the one I checked out had a slight rub on spool rotation, dont expect it to look like a reel at twice the price because it doesnt imo.
Having said that it is excellant value for money and matt black is all the rage, for that reason I bought a pair
Went on a reel sortie yesterday , checked out the penns, avid carp , and daiwa entoh tourni qd. The avid carp is an unkown but looks well made and has a nice handle compared to the penn.but is slightly heavier. The daiwa is class and it shows through and is the best of the bunch but it should be at that price.The penn on close inspection, its build looks on the cheap side matching its £120 price tag. I dont like the handle and the one I checked out had a slight rub on spool rotation, dont expect it to look like a reel at twice the price because it doesnt imo.
Having said that it is excellant value for money and matt black is all the rage, for that reason I bought a pair
In reply to Post #248
What exactly do you want to use?
The spigot I'm talking about is the small silver part between the wooden knob and handle itself.
That doesn't screw into the arm, it's press fitted and needs drilling out I think.
I can see that being a complete waste of money
What exactly do you want to use?
The spigot I'm talking about is the small silver part between the wooden knob and handle itself.
That doesn't screw into the arm, it's press fitted and needs drilling out I think.
I can see that being a complete waste of money
In reply to Post #252
You are right. It would have to be drilled out, popped the logo cap off of the handle and there is no way to undo it apart from drill it
You are right. It would have to be drilled out, popped the logo cap off of the handle and there is no way to undo it apart from drill it
In reply to Post #248
Do you recon these would fit, ?? Are all the threads on the spigots the same size does any one know
I do know they don't answer questions about what the handle fits
Do you recon these would fit, ?? Are all the threads on the spigots the same size does any one know
I do know they don't answer questions about what the handle fits
In reply to Post #254
One of mine still loads the line towards the back of the spool. It looks like there is a washer I might be able to take out. I'd appreciate any advice from anyone that knows more about reels if it would be detrimental to the reel if I remove it? Thanks
One of mine still loads the line towards the back of the spool. It looks like there is a washer I might be able to take out. I'd appreciate any advice from anyone that knows more about reels if it would be detrimental to the reel if I remove it? Thanks
In reply to Post #255
Try it and see....there are usually washers on the spindle to adjust the way the line spools. if its spooling to the back then you need to remove (a) washer(s).
Try it and see....there are usually washers on the spindle to adjust the way the line spools. if its spooling to the back then you need to remove (a) washer(s).
Looking at the reels the stroke of the spool looks longer than the average pit .... is it 45 mm long or the standard 35mm ???
In reply to Post #254
'I do know they don't answer questions about what the handle fits '
,,,,just read that reply ,, i,ve just messaged them asking the length of 'hexagonal' shaft ,,, they have 2 sizes listed too 16 x 5 cm and 14 x 4.5cm
'I do know they don't answer questions about what the handle fits
' ,,,,just read that reply ,, i,ve just messaged them asking the length of 'hexagonal' shaft ,,, they have 2 sizes listed too 16 x 5 cm and 14 x 4.5cm
In reply to Post #255
If there is a washer inside the click house underneath the spool then remove it. The only other washer is the one that sits beneath the click house, try removing that.
My only concern is that by removing that washer the spool may catch on the bail assembly when in its lowest position. Worth a try though.
If there is a washer inside the click house underneath the spool then remove it. The only other washer is the one that sits beneath the click house, try removing that.
My only concern is that by removing that washer the spool may catch on the bail assembly when in its lowest position. Worth a try though.
i hope all you guys rot in hell lol,
im trying to run a household here and support my wife, and now ive spent the last week reading this bloody thread thinking how the fek am i going to be able to say to my wife , love you wouldnt mind if i spend 300 of what little money we have, on some more! fishing reels, i mean we dont need a holiday this year anyway we've waited 2 years for a holiday one more wont hurt, well just go next year, oh and ill need a weekend fishing to try em out, so well just make it a nice round 350, that ill take out our savings, oh sh1t ill need some new line aswell, ok love i can see your not best pleased, judging by the steam coming out y eyes ,so ill just hide in the bathroom untill you put the pan down, and order it through the wifi
im trying to run a household here and support my wife, and now ive spent the last week reading this bloody thread thinking how the fek am i going to be able to say to my wife , love you wouldnt mind if i spend 300 of what little money we have, on some more! fishing reels, i mean we dont need a holiday this year anyway we've waited 2 years for a holiday one more wont hurt, well just go next year, oh and ill need a weekend fishing to try em out, so well just make it a nice round 350, that ill take out our savings, oh sh1t ill need some new line aswell, ok love i can see your not best pleased, judging by the steam coming out y eyes ,so ill just hide in the bathroom untill you put the pan down, and order it through the wifi
In reply to Post #260
sell some others to fill the funds back up
sell some others to fill the funds back up
In reply to Post #260
Sell the sofa & TV, cancel Sky and phone .
You don't need a those, if you're out fishing.
Sell the sofa & TV, cancel Sky and phone .
You don't need a those, if you're out fishing.
In reply to Post #261
I sold a load of old fishing stuff on ebay last week then bought the last 3 Penn 7000's from Erics on Fri.
I was amazed at how much some of my old stuff went for.
I sold a load of old fishing stuff on ebay last week then bought the last 3 Penn 7000's from Erics on Fri.
I was amazed at how much some of my old stuff went for.
In reply to Post #263
i dont have much left as it is lol, ill end up with just 3 penn ltd's s sat on my peg with my lines going into the water,
dam you penn dam you
i dont have much left as it is lol, ill end up with just 3 penn ltd's s sat on my peg with my lines going into the water,
dam you penn dam you
In reply to Post #260
worry not warchild. this phase will pass.
And they will not drive down the 2nd hand prices of decent daiwas and shimano reels.
just keep you eye out for the thread in a few months slagging them off.
worry not warchild. this phase will pass.
And they will not drive down the 2nd hand prices of decent daiwas and shimano reels.
just keep you eye out for the thread in a few months slagging them off.
In reply to Post #265
Most probably true.
There's nothing like a good forum to bring out the "must have" demon in you.
Most probably true.
There's nothing like a good forum to bring out the "must have" demon in you.
In reply to Post #267
Thought that was D_Viper's drive.
But realised he would have lined the handles up and used a plank of wood.
Thought that was D_Viper's drive.
But realised he would have lined the handles up and used a plank of wood.
I bought mine as they are cheap to fish venues that are dodgy , leave the better gear at home for French trips
Got on VERY well with them. Well happy.
Say what you will about the photo
ps...............used grass this time & not wood
Say what you will about the photo
ps...............used grass this time & not wood
Just wondered what rods people are putting these on. Are they top end reels? My dad is looking for some new reels and I have mentioned these to him, he has 3.5lb hi's rods would these pair nicely?
In reply to Post #271
Diawa amorphous wisker 2.75tc 50mm butt. Very happy with the balance. Cant think of another £90 reel (price new) id want to put under a £270 rod
Diawa amorphous wisker 2.75tc 50mm butt. Very happy with the balance. Cant think of another £90 reel (price new) id want to put under a £270 rod
In reply to Post #270
handles are wrong they should be in the minute past midnight position
cmon it looks almost nice
and i dont want to read about daiwa rods ive had a truly bad weekend two reels went walkies from my car and ive done this to one of my infinities
handles are wrong they should be in the minute past midnight position
cmon it looks almost nice
and i dont want to read about daiwa rods ive had a truly bad weekend two reels went walkies from my car and ive done this to one of my infinities
In reply to Post #272
£270 a rod you could buy a set of 3 real ones for that.
£270 a rod
you could buy a set of 3 real ones for that.
In reply to Post #270
Lush!!!!
Lush!!!!
In reply to Post #273
Is that the df ??
Is that the df ??
No the old slimline x version
Sexy pics Oh why do I do it
Its not my pic making this page big! Another post!
Oh why do I do it Its not my pic making this page big! Another post!
In reply to Post #278
you have changed...
Tart
you have changed...
Tart
In reply to Post #279
Not sure if its for the better or worse tho pal. Black line next
Oh god what am I saying? Someone help.
Not sure if its for the better or worse tho pal. Black line next
Oh god what am I saying? Someone help.
In reply to Post #280
its a bit luis Suarez esque... big turn around if its true he wants to stay now...
You used to criticize the tarts, now you´re a drag queen...
As long as you´re happy mate
its a bit luis Suarez esque... big turn around if its true he wants to stay now...
You used to criticize the tarts, now you´re a drag queen...
As long as you´re happy mate
He's not a tart yet.
Bobbins are all over the place.
Ooops, wrong thread
Bobbins are all over the place.
Ooops, wrong thread
In reply to Post #280
If I was being picky the line is fine....
It's your rods that don't match the reels
If I was being picky the line is fine....
It's your rods that don't match the reels
In reply to Post #283
Whats rods then noj?
Just asking, i'm not gona look into selling mine for some
Whats rods then noj?
Just asking, i'm not gona look into selling mine for some
In reply to Post #284
If you want black then Cotswold rods stealth build is the only option
If you want black then Cotswold rods stealth build is the only option
In reply to Post #284
Ask Cotswold if they can do a Nigel Tufnel Signature None More Black Rod for you
Ask Cotswold if they can do a Nigel Tufnel Signature None More Black Rod for you
In reply to Post #286
Nojer's got a point though: reels all stealthy, matte black, and the rods with stainless collars and hoods.......
Nojer's got a point though: reels all stealthy, matte black, and the rods with stainless collars and hoods.......
In reply to Post #283
I'd say that the line has to go as well.
The contrast of the glossy clear colour line against the matt black finish of the reels just doesn't make the reels "pop" like the pics of the lads with the darker colour lines
I'd say that the line has to go as well.
The contrast of the glossy clear colour line against the matt black finish of the reels just doesn't make the reels "pop" like the pics of the lads with the darker colour lines
Dodge you really do need help , you seem to have developed a serious fetish
In reply to Post #280
In the interest of your fellow forum members that have veiwed your pics and may be considering purchasing these reels could you give one of them a few strategically placed smacks with a ball hammer and let us know how robust the paint finish is, after all they will be no good to anyone if they scracth to easily.
In the interest of your fellow forum members that have veiwed your pics and may be considering purchasing these reels could you give one of them a few strategically placed smacks with a ball hammer and let us know how robust the paint finish is, after all they will be no good to anyone if they scracth to easily.
In reply to Post #290
let us know how robust the paint finish is
Only used them for 3 days mate. All ok so far.
let us know how robust the paint finish is
Only used them for 3 days mate. All ok so far.
In reply to Post #290
In reply to Post #291
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Just ferraried these skodas
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In reply to Post #293
Post 33 & 46 for ferrari versions-ss3000 handles.
This looks wrong, no offence. Silver handle? Isnt a folding one either?
Skoda with a bmw bumper after an accident
Post 33 & 46 for ferrari versions-ss3000 handles.
This looks wrong, no offence. Silver handle? Isnt a folding one either?
Skoda with a bmw bumper after an accident
In reply to Post #293
Handle must cost nearly as much as the reel
Handle must cost nearly as much as the reel
In reply to Post #294
Could get the handles anodised black I suppose , still , better than the handles that they come with.Found these in the shed, all out of ss3000 handles at the mo.
Could get the handles anodised black I suppose , still , better than the handles that they come with.Found these in the shed, all out of ss3000 handles at the mo.
In reply to Post #296
Really wish i could pick one up and see the handles they come with.
That looks like an entoh handle?
Presume an infinity br handle would look ok.
Some sort of emcast handle prob cheapest though needs be the right colour to complement the reel. I remember some people on here bought emcast handles for the avocast.
Saw this recently, reel looks a bit bizarre but a black ish handle with wood. If reel costs 75eur, a handle cant cost much surely. http://www.chronocarpe.com/moulinet-daiwa-emcast-carp-5000-p-19165.html
Really wish i could pick one up and see the handles they come with.
That looks like an entoh handle?
Presume an infinity br handle would look ok.
Some sort of emcast handle prob cheapest though needs be the right colour to complement the reel. I remember some people on here bought emcast handles for the avocast.
Saw this recently, reel looks a bit bizarre but a black ish handle with wood. If reel costs 75eur, a handle cant cost much surely. http://www.chronocarpe.com/moulinet-daiwa-emcast-carp-5000-p-19165.html
In reply to Post #293
Ha Ha All I'm going to say is that 'you can't polish a turd'
Ha Ha
All I'm going to say is that 'you can't polish a turd'
In reply to Post #298
You must have been awake all night to think of that original poetic grammar.
You must have been awake all night to think of that original poetic grammar.
In reply to Post #299
Forgot to add 'you can add glitter though'.
Still not getting everybody raving about these reels. They are good value and they don't look too bad, but that is about it in my eyes. Saying that the only experience I have of them is a friend got some gold lipped ones on a whim instead of his Basiairs. 1 broke and the other 2 didn't stay on there long
Forgot to add 'you can add glitter though'.
Still not getting everybody raving about these reels. They are good value and they don't look too bad, but that is about it in my eyes. Saying that the only experience I have of them is a friend got some gold lipped ones on a whim instead of his Basiairs. 1 broke and the other 2 didn't stay on there long
In reply to Post #300
if you look at daiwa and shimano at the same price range as the penn the quality of the build and componants will probably be the same, its not a bad reel to be fair,but a folding handle with wood could have been better, time will tell.
if you look at daiwa and shimano at the same price range as the penn the quality of the build and componants will probably be the same, its not a bad reel to be fair,but a folding handle with wood could have been better, time will tell.
I've been watching the thread for a while, as I like the 'look' of these reels, although I have no personal experience of Penn reels.
Then THIS, got posted on Facebook.
Seems like the whole world is turning black.
Then THIS, got posted on Facebook.
Seems like the whole world is turning black.
In reply to Post #302
Difficult one with fox, sure I read on here ages ago that there was problems with fox reels, they dont get mentioned a lot so that might tell you something.
Difficult one with fox, sure I read on here ages ago that there was problems with fox reels, they dont get mentioned a lot so that might tell you something.
My mate has the fox reels , can,t tell you if they are any good thou he don,t catch much
In reply to Post #300
But you could buy 18 of the Affinity 8000's for the price of 3 Basiairs and still have change?
I've used the Affinity 8000's from the day they was available via the trade, and they have been faultless
But these all Black Ltd 7000 versions really do make me wish they had been available when I got the 8000's
They seem to be just what everybody wants- and a sensible price, as your not just paying for "The Company name", which seem to have been the case for many, many years.
All credit to Penn for putting some "Cats amongst the Pigeons!"
But you could buy 18 of the Affinity 8000's for the price of 3 Basiairs and still have change?
I've used the Affinity 8000's from the day they was available via the trade, and they have been faultless
But these all Black Ltd 7000 versions really do make me wish they had been available when I got the 8000's
They seem to be just what everybody wants- and a sensible price, as your not just paying for "The Company name", which seem to have been the case for many, many years.
All credit to Penn for putting some "Cats amongst the Pigeons!"
In reply to Post #300
Forgot to add 'you can add glitter though'.
Still not getting everybody raving about these reels. They are good value and they don't look too bad, but that is about it in my eyes. Saying that the only experience I have of them is a friend got some gold lipped ones on a whim instead of his Basiairs. 1 broke and the other 2 didn't stay on there long
What don't you get ? You have stated in your post the attraction, value for money and they look good, the only thing they won't do that your mate's basiairs will is attract thieves although I doubt the clutch will seize up in the rain either.lol.
Forgot to add 'you can add glitter though'.
Still not getting everybody raving about these reels. They are good value and they don't look too bad, but that is about it in my eyes. Saying that the only experience I have of them is a friend got some gold lipped ones on a whim instead of his Basiairs. 1 broke and the other 2 didn't stay on there long
What don't you get ? You have stated in your post the attraction, value for money and they look good, the only thing they won't do that your mate's basiairs will is attract thieves although I doubt the clutch will seize up in the rain either.lol.
In reply to Post #306
You mentioned attraction not me. Still a '10 pinter' in my eyes.
You mentioned attraction not me. Still a '10 pinter' in my eyes.
why anyone wants wooden handles on a modern reel beats me, its as about as cool as a wooden dashboard in a new car these days 
In reply to Post #308
I used to love my 1600E cortina
I used to love my 1600E cortina
In reply to Post #309
Yeh lovely motor with a lovely wooden dash
Yeh lovely motor with a lovely wooden dash
In reply to Post #308
Depends entirely on what colour wood you have
Depends entirely on what colour wood you have
Can we keep this on topic please guys!
Or more driveway pics will be posted
Or more driveway pics will be posted
In reply to Post #311
No it doesnt (well maybe black is the exception) ... Wooden handles are just a dated look on modern reels
No it doesnt (well maybe black is the exception) ... Wooden handles are just a dated look on modern reels
In reply to Post #312
I think it's relevant Dodge
Actually in the process of sorting out Diawa folding handles , sad I know , I think I need help
I think it's relevant Dodge
Actually in the process of sorting out Diawa folding handles , sad I know , I think I need help
In reply to Post #314
In reply to Post #313
What about African black hardwood with silver caps
What about African black hardwood with silver caps
In reply to Post #316
That sounds the ticket
That sounds the ticket
In reply to Post #308
Same could be. Said about cork handles on carbon rods so wrong
Same could be. Said about cork handles on carbon rods so wrong
In reply to Post #316
Or whitby jet and pewter.....
The handles specifically the grips are the only downside I can see. If your only fishing with nice neat baiys and in the warm wether they should be fine.
Wood is more than aesthetic its a tactile material unlike these foam and pladtic horrors out now.
Reels should be black maybe grey is ok and all this bling on them now is asking for trouble in the long run.
I think defiant has hit the nail on the head with the costing of them.
Sod it next time ive cash spare im having some and ill sort nice rosewood handles on em. As for new cars and wood er bently etc have wood not fiesta plastic mind you mine has fabric not plastic as its a special car
Or whitby jet and pewter.....
The handles specifically the grips are the only downside I can see. If your only fishing with nice neat baiys and in the warm wether they should be fine.
Wood is more than aesthetic its a tactile material unlike these foam and pladtic horrors out now.
Reels should be black maybe grey is ok and all this bling on them now is asking for trouble in the long run.
I think defiant has hit the nail on the head with the costing of them.
Sod it next time ive cash spare im having some and ill sort nice rosewood handles on em. As for new cars and wood er bently etc have wood not fiesta plastic mind you mine has fabric not plastic as its a special car
In reply to Post #319
I don't get what everyone thinks is wrong with the handles? They are black like the rest of the reel. Look good to me.
Please tell me it isn't because you want to fold up the handles while the rods are on the rests....?
I don't get what everyone thinks is wrong with the handles? They are black like the rest of the reel. Look good to me.
Please tell me it isn't because you want to fold up the handles while the rods are on the rests....?
In reply to Post #320
I'm ok with the arms. Nice bit of black wood on the ends tho!
Edit....The camara fell over Fred!
I'm ok with the arms. Nice bit of black wood on the ends tho!
Edit....The camara fell over Fred!
In reply to Post #321
I'm going off them, the handles don't seem to ever line up.
Must be something wrong with them
I'm going off them, the handles don't seem to ever line up.
Must be something wrong with them
In reply to Post #321
Why not Get lee valley customs to make you up some wooden knobs for the handles dodge
Why not Get lee valley customs to make you up some wooden knobs for the handles dodge
In reply to Post #323
Waste of time....he will of sold the reels before they'd arrive.....
Waste of time....he will of sold the reels before they'd arrive.....
In reply to Post #321
Should be more cencerned about them bars and sticks than the reel handles, oh and a polarizing lens wouldn't go a miss with that line.
Should be more cencerned about them bars and sticks than the reel handles, oh and a polarizing lens wouldn't go a miss with that line.
In reply to Post #320
Easy. They are an odd shape a classic T would havr been better. Read my post furthrt down for more info
Easy. They are an odd shape a classic T would havr been better. Read my post furthrt down for more info
I am getting a set latter on. They do look spot on to be fair.
After shopping around yesterday for a while I have found a shop that is selling them 3 for £300 (same as hull angling who have now sold out)
If anyone wants the shop name please pm me.
I will reply once I have my set at home of course.
After shopping around yesterday for a while I have found a shop that is selling them 3 for £300 (same as hull angling who have now sold out)
If anyone wants the shop name please pm me.
I will reply once I have my set at home of course.
In reply to Post #321
It's all Pruster's fault. If he hadn't posted that first pic with the Daiwa handles then people may have been happy with the factory black/rubber efforts.
Given the two small retaining screws holding the reel handles on, I can't imagine it's much effort to pop these off. You'd just have to find the correct bore wooden handle and maybe centre spindle bit.
Eric's sold these for £95 each on their big Friday sale day
It's all Pruster's fault. If he hadn't posted that first pic with the Daiwa handles then people may have been happy with the factory black/rubber efforts.
Given the two small retaining screws holding the reel handles on, I can't imagine it's much effort to pop these off. You'd just have to find the correct bore wooden handle and maybe centre spindle bit.
Eric's sold these for £95 each on their big Friday sale day
In reply to Post #328
Its Always Prutser fault...
Its Always Prutser fault...
In reply to Post #328
These handles are actually very well made , because I changed mine I have dismantled one and that little cover exposes the shaft and thats it,the handle is moulded around it with a shrink rubber coating on top, the only way I can see to remove the handle is to cut the shaft off and try and press what remains out of its housing but I think you will damage the actual handle.
These handles are actually very well made , because I changed mine I have dismantled one and that little cover exposes the shaft and thats it,the handle is moulded around it with a shrink rubber coating on top, the only way I can see to remove the handle is to cut the shaft off and try and press what remains out of its housing but I think you will damage the actual handle.
It seems to me the Dutch know best
Seriously tempted to get a set of these. Have 5000t's that have just been serviced and upgraded but can get a set of these for 255 for the three. If shop can make money on them at that price just makes me doubt them
In reply to Post #332
really you doubt mark ups
one major company offer a small 40 sized reel for 50 odd quid
the same reel with a different logo can be found direct from china for just over a fiver
check out sites like dh gate
really you doubt mark ups
one major company offer a small 40 sized reel for 50 odd quid
the same reel with a different logo can be found direct from china for just over a fiver
check out sites like dh gate
In reply to Post #333
At the price below, the shop is making nothing.
At the price below, the shop is making nothing.
In reply to Post #332
Where can you get 3 for £255 please do share
Where can you get 3 for £255 please do share
Through a guy who has a deal with one of major shops. He does some awesome deals through a private facebook group. Got a trakker levelite for 210 delivered which I was very happy with.
In reply to Post #336
Is his mark by any chance?
Is his mark by any chance?
In reply to Post #336
Sounds iffy.
Pm me his fb name plz
Sounds iffy.
Pm me his fb name plz
Don't know a Mark Whinn is and not dodgy at all. Prices sorted through guy then ring retailer and make payment.
In reply to Post #339
Ok no probs he told me he could get them for £255 for 3 from hull angling I rung them and they quoted me £100 a reel
Ok no probs he told me he could get them for £255 for 3 from hull angling I rung them and they quoted me £100 a reel
In reply to Post #340
Hull charged me 290 with line
Hull charged me 290 with line
In reply to Post #341
Hull are out of stock now and don't expect to be receiving any more until mid October.
Hull are out of stock now and don't expect to be receiving any more until mid October.
In reply to Post #342
I know mark, and im on the same group as he is, it's for selected few, I'm waiting for my reels for a great price, also had a tempest through this private group for less than half price.....
I know mark, and im on the same group as he is, it's for selected few, I'm waiting for my reels for a great price, also had a tempest through this private group for less than half price.....
Is there anything else that can be said about this fishing reel?
We've had everything about the handle, there must be something else, surely?
We've had everything about the handle, there must be something else, surely?
I think a nice Penn emblem on one side would have set it off , just like reels from yesteryear Abu now that was a nice emblem
Seriously thou really for the money what do people expect , it's not a top end reel ffs ,
I have been looking for some cheap reels for a while now , gear that you won,t lose sleep over if it gets nicked , know what I mean to go with the Quest rods and wychwood alarms and cacky old banksticks
It isn,t as thou this brand popped up over night is it , I still have my dads old sea gear (RIP) which is Penn but some will say aaay but they don,t make them like they used to ,
Correct , better tooling and modern materials and computer aided manufacturing it's called progress
Let's face it if you want to turn over a load of reels then target your market and price accordingly , surprised Danny didn't,t get in on the action
Seriously thou really for the money what do people expect , it's not a top end reel ffs ,
I have been looking for some cheap reels for a while now , gear that you won,t lose sleep over if it gets nicked , know what I mean
to go with the Quest rods and wychwood alarms and cacky old banksticks It isn,t as thou this brand popped up over night is it , I still have my dads old sea gear (RIP) which is Penn but some will say aaay but they don,t make them like they used to ,
Correct , better tooling and modern materials and computer aided manufacturing it's called progress
Let's face it if you want to turn over a load of reels then target your market and price accordingly , surprised Danny didn't,t get in on the action
In reply to Post #345
Penn have been making reels longer than both shimano and daiwa fred.
Penn have been making reels longer than both shimano and daiwa fred.
In reply to Post #346
Yep I know bud , don,t think others do as they only do Diawa and Shimano
Yep I know bud , don,t think others do as they only do Diawa and Shimano
What is the deal with these reels? If someone could outline the reasons behind why this thread is quite popular that would be great.
In reply to Post #348
One of the worlds biggest and best reel producers entering the specialist market again perhaps
Or potentially a very good reel at a sensible price.
The only reason its this version being shouted about is its a carp badged version of oje thats been available for a while now. Ok its a different colour and you get two mono spools rather than one for pe lines.
One of the worlds biggest and best reel producers entering the specialist market again perhaps
Or potentially a very good reel at a sensible price.
The only reason its this version being shouted about is its a carp badged version of oje thats been available for a while now. Ok its a different colour and you get two mono spools rather than one for pe lines.
In reply to Post #348
it never ceases to amaze just how gullible carp anglers are but hats off to pure fishing for recognising the trend or niche market for this reel .
time will tell how good the reel is , as they are not the same as the old US made warhorses , whether they will be any better than any of the other Chinese made reels branded by korum , ck , still water , tfg etc , remains to be seen .
it never ceases to amaze just how gullible carp anglers are but hats off to pure fishing for recognising the trend or niche market for this reel .
time will tell how good the reel is , as they are not the same as the old US made warhorses , whether they will be any better than any of the other Chinese made reels branded by korum , ck , still water , tfg etc , remains to be seen .
In reply to Post #350
time will tell how good the reel is , as they are not the same as the old US made warhorses , whether they will be any better than any of the other Chinese made reels branded by korum , ck , still water , tfg etc , remains to be seen .
Don't you mean Conrad " whether they will be any better than every other Reel that's been made in China, OR all the parts made in China but then assembled in Japan"
99.9% are Chinese and that's a fact.
it never ceases to amaze just how gullible carp anglers are
This amazes me also , how anyone can be paying £650+ for a Reel is beyond me.
If they had bodies machined from a solid Titanium Billet, Timken Taper Roller Bearing on the Pinions, Phospor Bronze Gearing etc............ I could understand the price.
But from a Reel costing £100 to one costing £650 + the fact is there is hardly any diffrence what so ever.
time will tell how good the reel is , as they are not the same as the old US made warhorses , whether they will be any better than any of the other Chinese made reels branded by korum , ck , still water , tfg etc , remains to be seen .
Don't you mean Conrad " whether they will be any better than every other Reel that's been made in China, OR all the parts made in China but then assembled in Japan"
99.9% are Chinese and that's a fact.
it never ceases to amaze just how gullible carp anglers are
This amazes me also , how anyone can be paying £650+ for a Reel is beyond me.
If they had bodies machined from a solid Titanium Billet, Timken Taper Roller Bearing on the Pinions, Phospor Bronze Gearing etc............ I could understand the price.
But from a Reel costing £100 to one costing £650 + the fact is there is hardly any diffrence what so ever.
In reply to Post #351
You could also argue that as the likes of emblems, aerlex, baitrunner, etc have stood the test of time and cost pretty much half that of the penns; that penn themselves are overpricing these on the strength of aesthetics?
Afterall you say yourself there's 'hardly any difference' between any reels. So why are they double the price of a reel renowned for longevity and faultless service?
You could also argue that as the likes of emblems, aerlex, baitrunner, etc have stood the test of time and cost pretty much half that of the penns; that penn themselves are overpricing these on the strength of aesthetics?
Afterall you say yourself there's 'hardly any difference' between any reels. So why are they double the price of a reel renowned for longevity and faultless service?
In reply to Post #352
bit puzzled?
Emblem S 5000 RRP = £99.99
Aerlex 8000XTA RRP = £99.99
BTR 8000 RRP = £149.99
All around the same price?
But compare the build Specs. Hell the Penns are pratically a "Gift!"
bit puzzled?
Emblem S 5000 RRP = £99.99
Aerlex 8000XTA RRP = £99.99
BTR 8000 RRP = £149.99
All around the same price?
But compare the build Specs. Hell the Penns are pratically a "Gift!"
In reply to Post #352
That's a fair comment but ,
These Penns have slow oscillation , titanium main shaft , 9 ball bearings , a bail arm which locks the rotor for the big chuck , two spools ( both aluminium ) all for the princely sum of just over a ton .
It seems we are paying treble this for others with a name .
Also I have a good collection of reels , Shimano , Diawa ect , some top end and also the work horses described .
I,m sure they will live up to the £100 price tag .
It amazes me why some are bothered as they spend most of the time talking about kit instead of using it , let's face it it sits on the bank doing nothing most of the time for some
That's a fair comment but ,
These Penns have slow oscillation , titanium main shaft , 9 ball bearings , a bail arm which locks the rotor for the big chuck , two spools ( both aluminium ) all for the princely sum of just over a ton .
It seems we are paying treble this for others with a name .
Also I have a good collection of reels , Shimano , Diawa ect , some top end and also the work horses described .
I,m sure they will live up to the £100 price tag .
It amazes me why some are bothered as they spend most of the time talking about kit instead of using it , let's face it it sits on the bank doing nothing most of the time for some
In reply to Post #354
let's face it it sits on the bank doing nothing most of the time for some
spends even longer at home doing less for others.............
let's face it it sits on the bank doing nothing most of the time for some
spends even longer at home doing less for others.............
In reply to Post #355
Oh so true.
Oh so true.
In reply to Post #353
We all know those rrp's are nonsense. No shop sells emblems for more than £60, baitrunner re £55, aerlex (original) £50 until very recently, whereas the penns are £100+.
I accept the penn is a little more refined but that could be classed as over engineering in an item that essentially retrieves line from the water.
I've owned all sorts of reels in various price brackets and providing they don't fall apart all do the job, which is why I'm back using emblems.
As for the comments about tackle sitting at home, mine sits at home between fishing every week. I doubt a huge percentage of people on the forum can say they fish every week
We all know those rrp's are nonsense. No shop sells emblems for more than £60, baitrunner re £55, aerlex (original) £50 until very recently, whereas the penns are £100+.
I accept the penn is a little more refined but that could be classed as over engineering in an item that essentially retrieves line from the water.
I've owned all sorts of reels in various price brackets and providing they don't fall apart all do the job, which is why I'm back using emblems.
As for the comments about tackle sitting at home, mine sits at home between fishing every week. I doubt a huge percentage of people on the forum can say they fish every week
In reply to Post #351
I think you will find the qc on the cheaper reels quite a bit less stringent Keith
i am not saying they are rubbish , if they were i wouldn't have bought one , but i think recent market success along with their popularity on here has more to do with the asthetic than performance .............i don't think daiwa or shimano will be loosing many sales or any sleep over pure fishings latest offerings . what i really like is the way the manufacturer has reacted to to giving the punter something they actually desire ie the all black big pit reel .
I think you will find the qc on the cheaper reels quite a bit less stringent Keith
i am not saying they are rubbish , if they were i wouldn't have bought one , but i think recent market success along with their popularity on here has more to do with the asthetic than performance .............i don't think daiwa or shimano will be loosing many sales or any sleep over pure fishings latest offerings . what i really like is the way the manufacturer has reacted to to giving the punter something they actually desire ie the all black big pit reel .
In reply to Post #357
Oh well I have drunk my tea I had better go and start prepping the gear as I,m off fishing Friday for the week in sunny France with the Penns.
Note to myself , don,t forget to pack a set of spare reels just incase
Oh well I have drunk my tea I had better go and start prepping the gear as I,m off fishing Friday for the week in sunny France with the Penns.
Note to myself , don,t forget to pack a set of spare reels just incase
In reply to Post #359
Have a nice time..
I'll be spending a month river fishing for bullsharks in sunny Brisbane with my inferior emblems
Have a nice time..
I'll be spending a month river fishing for bullsharks in sunny Brisbane with my inferior emblems
In reply to Post #360
You have a nice time too
You have a nice time too
In reply to Post #360
i cant wait to see those pics Jon ..............if it were me id put my faith in the shimano big blue
i cant wait to see those pics Jon
..............if it were me id put my faith in the shimano big blue
In reply to Post #352
Hmm not so sure I have had and still have a few mentioned :-
Aerlex gtr
Aerlex gt
Baitrunner gt 6010's and 5010's
And emcast advanced
Plus a few others like the bblc's sold as they were tripe too heavy froze up in the cold.
Triton seaspins both sold as spares to someone as id killed them stripping a gear and bending a shaft
Put these against my penns I own only one is on a par with it for longevity and robustness thats he aerlex gtr
Ive currently three aerlex gt 8000's of which two are goodish the third has been canabalised to keep the other two running when bushes and bearings have failed the two I still use have needed to be sprayed after the plastic started bubbling abroad.
Gt baitrunners dont get me started I only managed to pass one on out of four as the others all failed big time bent spindles handles stripping etc
Emcast advanced considering these as all big pits are sea reels mine didnt like the surf gettig grindy with a bit of sand and corroding after the first visit despite being washed thouroughly.
Penns bought 12 or so years ago still going never miss a beat.......
Its why when I recently wanted some normal sized re I bought the slammer liveliners and im contemplating wheather to get some affinitys.
to replace my aerlex as I dont think they will last much longer
Hmm not so sure I have had and still have a few mentioned :-
Aerlex gtr
Aerlex gt
Baitrunner gt 6010's and 5010's
And emcast advanced
Plus a few others like the bblc's sold as they were tripe too heavy froze up in the cold.
Triton seaspins both sold as spares to someone as id killed them stripping a gear and bending a shaft
Put these against my penns I own only one is on a par with it for longevity and robustness thats he aerlex gtr
Ive currently three aerlex gt 8000's of which two are goodish the third has been canabalised to keep the other two running when bushes and bearings have failed the two I still use have needed to be sprayed after the plastic started bubbling abroad.
Gt baitrunners dont get me started I only managed to pass one on out of four as the others all failed big time bent spindles handles stripping etc
Emcast advanced considering these as all big pits are sea reels mine didnt like the surf gettig grindy with a bit of sand and corroding after the first visit despite being washed thouroughly.
Penns bought 12 or so years ago still going never miss a beat.......
Its why when I recently wanted some normal sized re I bought the slammer liveliners and im contemplating wheather to get some affinitys.
to replace my aerlex as I dont think they will last much longer
In reply to Post #363
Perhaps you are a little heavy handed if you don't mind me saying? Also, the emcast is notoriously crap and sal****er use doesn't really relate to this topic as its a carp fishing forum.
Some relevant points made but you're comparing older penn models built by a different factory to the new offering.
I've been drawn into pointless arguments over these bloody reels before and the truth is I couldn't give a monkeys, my only intention was to point out that a reel can be found at little over half the price of the affinity so according to the 'they're all the same' argument means they should cost the same
Perhaps you are a little heavy handed if you don't mind me saying? Also, the emcast is notoriously crap and sal****er use doesn't really relate to this topic as its a carp fishing forum.
Some relevant points made but you're comparing older penn models built by a different factory to the new offering.
I've been drawn into pointless arguments over these bloody reels before and the truth is I couldn't give a monkeys, my only intention was to point out that a reel can be found at little over half the price of the affinity so according to the 'they're all the same' argument means they should cost the same
In reply to Post #364
I thought it was a friendly debate , not an argument
I thought it was a friendly debate , not an argument
In reply to Post #365
Tomatoe... Tomato
Tomatoe... Tomato
In reply to Post #366
There or their
Trust you to drag that old chestnut out
There or their
Trust you to drag that old chestnut out
In reply to Post #364
And the same is true for the shimanos were are the new ones made all mine are the old japanese ones. The penns I own are korean made and chinese made.
Not being argumentative im often told im blunt when typing sorry nothing personal is meant by it
Just been informed by the wife blunt isnt the correct term abrupt is better
Probably a northern thin
Tad heavy handed but until recently having had two kids in quick succesion my gear was in use for six months as in 150 ish days a year. I doubt many could match that so I did tend to find fault with things more than most, add to that I didnt fish nice manicured waters but glacial lakes upland reservoirs and other larger venues and on one of them you needed to go to rather extreme lengths to get onto the water then gear was tested thouroughly
And the same is true for the shimanos were are the new ones made all mine are the old japanese ones. The penns I own are korean made and chinese made.
Not being argumentative im often told im blunt when typing sorry nothing personal is meant by it
Just been informed by the wife blunt isnt the correct term abrupt is better
Probably a northern thin
Tad heavy handed but until recently having had two kids in quick succesion my gear was in use for six months as in 150 ish days a year. I doubt many could match that so I did tend to find fault with things more than most, add to that I didnt fish nice manicured waters but glacial lakes upland reservoirs and other larger venues and on one of them you needed to go to rather extreme lengths to get onto the water then gear was tested thouroughly
In reply to Post #367
I am equally as guilty at wording things badly noodle. It does indeed sound like you're tackle takes some abuse.
I stand by my statement you must be heavy handed or mechanically unsympathetic as Fred will no doubt prefer
I am equally as guilty at wording things badly noodle. It does indeed sound like you're tackle takes some abuse.
I stand by my statement you must be heavy handed or mechanically unsympathetic as Fred will no doubt prefer
In reply to Post #369
Um im the only person I know who has dropped a full quiver down a rockface if that helps understand what I do to gear
Um im the only person I know who has dropped a full quiver down a rockface if that helps understand what I do to gear
In reply to Post #358
Of course daiwa or shimano won't be losing any sleep, they are highly established in the carp anglers market. But i don't get how so many users of the Penn' can be wrong in terms of their performance.
What is your take on the performance of the Penn Conrad? Because i am at my wits end trying to figure out where abouts the other reels i have owned are any better, and cost 3-4 times as much.
Of course daiwa or shimano won't be losing any sleep, they are highly established in the carp anglers market. But i don't get how so many users of the Penn' can be wrong in terms of their performance.
What is your take on the performance of the Penn Conrad? Because i am at my wits end trying to figure out where abouts the other reels i have owned are any better, and cost 3-4 times as much.
In reply to Post #371
Much like a fox whatever chub ... Etc small carryall and the aldi ones
You are paying purely for a name. Ok some shims and daiwas are maybe worth the price tag thos for blue water fishing maybe stellas and the daiwa equivalent but the average stuff we use is just overpriced beach gear
Much like a fox whatever chub ... Etc small carryall and the aldi ones
You are paying purely for a name. Ok some shims and daiwas are maybe worth the price tag thos for blue water fishing maybe stellas and the daiwa equivalent but the average stuff we use is just overpriced beach gear
In reply to Post #371
My only take on their performance is positive withe caveat that they were us built multis and were in another league completely to the far eastern penns in this thread . They lasted years without degradation and gave trouble free service but its not the same product or even manufactured on the same continent so the comparison with the penns that built their rep against the new offerings built by god knows who for pure fishing is a nonsense
If they are still selling the way they are now in f e years I will gladly eat my words
My only take on their performance is positive withe caveat that they were us built multis and were in another league completely to the far eastern penns in this thread . They lasted years without degradation and gave trouble free service but its not the same product or even manufactured on the same continent so the comparison with the penns that built their rep against the new offerings built by god knows who for pure fishing is a nonsense
If they are still selling the way they are now in f e years I will gladly eat my words
well i can tell you that okuma make some great big pits ,ive had diawa emcast adv, then i moved onto the latest c14 shimano baby big pits think they were called xta c14 or summat, and for years i looked at my spod reel and thought you no what this reel is so bloody good im gettin 3 more,for my rods the okuma 65 distance, and at 40 quid each it was better than the c14, and 100 quid cheaper, infact after this, i could not see why people rave about shimano , now i must admit that the top end diawas are serious bits of kit basiair etc ,but look how much they are, so i know that with reels under 200 quid, other makes can still win
In reply to Post #374
I had a set of those okuma s your talking about , I had the integrator pros which are the black bodied carp one and some of the surf versions with the pearl white body , they were pretty good reels ...........very smooth , good clutch , decent retrieve rate etc but I found they were almost identical in performance to the ultegra 5500xtb and had the same faults ie there was flex through the reel stem which I hated ........I themn changed to some ultegra ci4 which were way better , same clutch and retrieve rate etc but tighter and smoother with absolutely no shake in the stem , the body is completely rigid and a little bit lighter .
I would go as far as to say the ci4 is pretty close to the performance of my aero techs and and the equal of the power aero to say the okuma is anywhere close to it , is a load of absolute cobblers .
I had a set of those okuma s your talking about , I had the integrator pros which are the black bodied carp one and some of the surf versions with the pearl white body , they were pretty good reels ...........very smooth , good clutch , decent retrieve rate etc but I found they were almost identical in performance to the ultegra 5500xtb and had the same faults ie there was flex through the reel stem which I hated ........I themn changed to some ultegra ci4 which were way better , same clutch and retrieve rate etc but tighter and smoother with absolutely no shake in the stem , the body is completely rigid and a little bit lighter .
I would go as far as to say the ci4 is pretty close to the performance of my aero techs and and the equal of the power aero to say the okuma is anywhere close to it , is a load of absolute cobblers .
In reply to Post #375
well i had the c14 myself and the only reason i sold them was bcos the okuma was better ,i have no reason to lie ,so im not talking coblers ,infact your talking coblers bcos i had no wobble or play in mine and i feel its the better reel,hence why i sold them,bcos i had both at the same time in my hands and could not see where the money was in the shim, apart from the name, and the line lay is alot better than the shim,and with the money i got back, i put it toward 5 weeks in the phillipines, so im well happy i got rid of the c14
well i had the c14 myself and the only reason i sold them was bcos the okuma was better ,i have no reason to lie ,so im not talking coblers ,infact your talking coblers bcos i had no wobble or play in mine and i feel its the better reel,hence why i sold them,bcos i had both at the same time in my hands and could not see where the money was in the shim, apart from the name, and the line lay is alot better than the shim,and with the money i got back, i put it toward 5 weeks in the phillipines, so im well happy i got rid of the c14
In reply to Post #376
Good for you
Good for you
In reply to Post #376
I never mentioned wobble or play I said shake in the reel stem which they all have ie flexibility , with the reel attached to the rod you can twist the whole assy through the stem , this means it feels bloody terrible if your cranking in big leads or clumps of weed
I never mentioned wobble or play I said shake in the reel stem which they all have ie flexibility , with the reel attached to the rod you can twist the whole assy through the stem , this means it feels bloody terrible if your cranking in big leads or clumps of weed
In reply to Post #378
that is something ive had on every okuma ive owned
that is something ive had on every okuma ive owned
In reply to Post #379
A potential rival of the Penns
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.562515410472711.1073741838.109008095823447&type=1
A potential rival of the Penns
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.562515410472711.1073741838.109008095823447&type=1
In reply to Post #380
So last week
So last week
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Got a set of 6 for £95 each from abbey baits and am in live with them! Only two things I'm not quiet sure of (being critical) is the handles and I feel the clutch sounds a little tingy if you other penn owners get my drift? Ain't used them on the bank yet so will hopefully have my mind changed on that but all in all think I'm gona prefer these over my basia's.
Got a set of 6 for £95 each from abbey baits and am in live with them! Only two things I'm not quiet sure of (being critical) is the handles and I feel the clutch sounds a little tingy if you other penn owners get my drift? Ain't used them on the bank yet so will hopefully have my mind changed on that but all in all think I'm gona prefer these over my basia's.
In reply to Post #384
I got mine few weeks back did a quick day and there nice to play a fish on realy smooth and strong only had a 21 but gave a half decent scrap!
I got mine few weeks back did a quick day and there nice to play a fish on realy smooth and strong only had a 21 but gave a half decent scrap!
Looks more like an Entoh
In reply to Post #387
spools wrong its more of a penn spool
spools wrong its more of a penn spool
In reply to Post #386
not really.
not really.
In reply to Post #389
Are people still loving these, any complaints. Im selling my shims and in the market for some 100quid big pits
Are people still loving these, any complaints. Im selling my shims and in the market for some 100quid big pits
In reply to Post #390
Still v.impressed with mine mate - no complaints whatsoever.
Still v.impressed with mine mate - no complaints whatsoever.
In reply to Post #390
Still very impressed with mine
Still very impressed with mine
A mate of mine had a bad clutch on one of his penns from day one.
Very pleased with set.
In reply to Post #393
in what way was it bad?
in what way was it bad?
I've just bought 3 after selling my daiwa tournament iso and first impression very good quality reel for the money gonna put them to use this weekend
In reply to Post #390
Mine have been faultless, the original 8000 version
Mine have been faultless, the original 8000 version
In reply to Post #395
The clutch was "stuttering" and made another noise than the other 2!
The clutch was "stuttering" and made another noise than the other 2!
If anyone is looking for some there are some on e bay at the moment for £94.99.
In reply to Post #399
Hull angling are doing 3 for £255 posted that's what I paid
Hull angling are doing 3 for £255 posted that's what I paid
In reply to Post #400
Really?
Really?
In reply to Post #401
Yep I purchased them last week
Yep I purchased them last week
In reply to Post #402
Good for the money they cost, but i cant see them lasting for as long as a shimmy
Oh and my handles have got stuck under the bail arm on more than one occasion when folding the handle down to put the rods away in a sleeve, anyone else had that yet?
So will be looking for a handle replacement me thinks.
While we on the subject, does anyone know where you can get a spare spool for them, want a 3rd for some different line.
Good for the money they cost, but i cant see them lasting for as long as a shimmy
Oh and my handles have got stuck under the bail arm on more than one occasion when folding the handle down to put the rods away in a sleeve, anyone else had that yet?
So will be looking for a handle replacement me thinks.
While we on the subject, does anyone know where you can get a spare spool for them, want a 3rd for some different line.
In reply to Post #403
Yeap £255 at hull angling,received mine today.
First impression are good especially for the money.
Like all new products time will tell,penn got good reputation in sea reels so we'll see.
Yeap £255 at hull angling,received mine today.
First impression are good especially for the money.
Like all new products time will tell,penn got good reputation in sea reels so we'll see.
In reply to Post #403
Contact pure fishing or contact the shop where you bought the reels and ask them to get you a spare spool any penn stockists should be able to get you spare spools
Contact pure fishing or contact the shop where you bought the reels and ask them to get you a spare spool any penn stockists should be able to get you spare spools
In reply to Post #405
Had mine a couple of weeks now, used for four day sessions and had nine fish up to mid 20s. Really nice clutch and fantastic line lay I'm well happy with mine.
Had mine a couple of weeks now, used for four day sessions and had nine fish up to mid 20s. Really nice clutch and fantastic line lay I'm well happy with mine.
In reply to Post #406
any one who has these, what size buzzbars are going to make them nice and snug?
any one who has these, what size buzzbars are going to make them nice and snug?
In reply to Post #404
Ordered 3 of these bad boys today from Hull Angling. £255 posted. Bargain
Ordered 3 of these bad boys today from Hull Angling. £255 posted. Bargain
what are these reels like for line going behind the spool, more so with wirey lines
In reply to Post #409
Not experianced any problems yet, shim tech line on mine, but line guard is basically spool lip running on rubber seal, could be a weak point.
Not experianced any problems yet, shim tech line on mine, but line guard is basically spool lip running on rubber seal, could be a weak point.
In reply to Post #410
Ordered mine and some new xx s. Gone a bit spend crazy ha.
Ordered mine and some new xx s. Gone a bit spend crazy ha.
Does anyone know, if this reel makes the line twisted? Is there any twist buster solution?
In reply to Post #412
Every single Fixed Spool Reel ever made generates line twist, how much all depends on how much you let the Spool spin with the Bale Arm closed (Clutch slipping) Its just the inherant design flaw of fixed Spool type Reels.
~ Big Pit style Fixed Spool Reels are the best of the bunch thou, as Bigger Spools = bigger Coils of line on the Spool = less Twists per given length of line.
Every single Fixed Spool Reel ever made generates line twist, how much all depends on how much you let the Spool spin with the Bale Arm closed (Clutch slipping) Its just the inherant design flaw of fixed Spool type Reels.
~ Big Pit style Fixed Spool Reels are the best of the bunch thou, as Bigger Spools = bigger Coils of line on the Spool = less Twists per given length of line.
Thank you for the quick answer.
In reply to Post #413
someone once told me to put a small drop of gun oil regularly onto the line roller to help with this what u think
someone once told me to put a small drop of gun oil regularly onto the line roller to help with this what u think
In reply to Post #415
Nothing can help, as every single time your Bale Arm does one revolution = 1 twist , which from first loading the line is not a problem, its when you then let this line come off the spool via the Clutch Slipping, you then wind back in and the Bale Arm adds more Twist per revolution and so on............ Until it gets out of hand ( Starts Wrapping around the Top eye on its own for fun)
Then out comes the Spin Doctor to remove it.
Nothing can help, as every single time your Bale Arm does one revolution = 1 twist , which from first loading the line is not a problem, its when you then let this line come off the spool via the Clutch Slipping, you then wind back in and the Bale Arm adds more Twist per revolution and so on............ Until it gets out of hand ( Starts Wrapping around the Top eye on its own for fun)
Then out comes the Spin Doctor to remove it.
Wheres the cheapest place to get these now.couldnt see them on hull angling site.
In reply to Post #417
Best ring them and ask i would of thought....?
Best ring them and ask i would of thought....?
In reply to Post #417
Hull angling 3 for £255 posted
Hull angling 3 for £255 posted
Just thought I would update , I have used these for a week in France and I thought they were pretty good , am going again next week for another session .
All I will say is when reeling in if you close your eyes and listen ...........just like the advert they sound like a golf
All I will say is when reeling in if you close your eyes and listen ...........just like the advert they sound like a golf
In reply to Post #420
Just in case anyone is wondering, the Daiwa Emcast Advanced folding\wooden handles fit straight on these
Just in case anyone is wondering, the Daiwa Emcast Advanced folding\wooden handles fit straight on these
In reply to Post #420
All still good with these reels guys?
All still good with these reels guys?
In reply to Post #422
Not a single issue with them (I have the orignal 8000 version ) They have been faultless
Not a single issue with them (I have the orignal 8000 version ) They have been faultless
In reply to Post #422
Both types faultless
Originally bought the LC8000 s, used for 6 months ,, then 'aquired ' some 7000 ltd editions too ,, both sets SUPERB for the money ,,,
LC8000s will be for sale as not getting used , will try and do advert / pics later , got 4 of them
Both types faultless
Originally bought the LC8000 s, used for 6 months ,, then 'aquired ' some 7000 ltd editions too ,, both sets SUPERB for the money ,,,
LC8000s will be for sale as not getting used , will try and do advert / pics later , got 4 of them
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what make and model reel is that in the picture?
what make and model reel is that in the picture?
In reply to Post #426
is that a bait runner version of the affinity ?
is that a bait runner version of the affinity ?
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Could the wooden handles be available as a kit to convert the original 7000s?
Could the wooden handles be available as a kit to convert the original 7000s?
In reply to Post #428
Any idea when they will be hitting the shops?
Any idea when they will be hitting the shops?
In reply to Post #428
The baitrunner version is much heavier than the normal one presumably?
The baitrunner version is much heavier than the normal one presumably?
In reply to Post #430
Hi,
Weight wise there isn't allot in it...
Will try to get some more details about the separate handle..
Already advised them to sell these separate...would make allot of people happy...:-)
They should hit the shops somewhere during the summer of 2014..
Hi,
Weight wise there isn't allot in it...
Will try to get some more details about the separate handle..
Already advised them to sell these separate...would make allot of people happy...:-)
They should hit the shops somewhere during the summer of 2014..
In reply to Post #432
super, will wait for more info in the coming months!
super, will wait for more info in the coming months!
In reply to Post #433
Weight is 650gr...
Weight is 650gr...
In reply to Post #434
That's good news Prutser
That's good news Prutser
In reply to Post #435
The problem with the orginal handle's can be solved by removing the little iron pin.
Thats the reason the folding is not like it should be..and can be a real pain..
Removed it from 1 reel and compared it to one that still has it atached.
It makes no difference when fully tensioned.
But when unscrewing it, it folds much easier..:-)
Gr Roy
The problem with the orginal handle's can be solved by removing the little iron pin.
Thats the reason the folding is not like it should be..and can be a real pain..
Removed it from 1 reel and compared it to one that still has it atached.
It makes no difference when fully tensioned.
But when unscrewing it, it folds much easier..:-)
Gr Roy
In reply to Post #436
Great reels had them a while now one thing to check thou, on all 3 reels the anti-reverse switch screw was loose
Great reels had them a while now one thing to check thou, on all 3 reels the anti-reverse switch screw was loose
In reply to Post #437
Does anyone know what differences are between the old Penn Ltd Edition reel and the new version out this summer, was thinking about buying 3 but might wait if the problems mentioned are to be resolved
Does anyone know what differences are between the old Penn Ltd Edition reel and the new version out this summer, was thinking about buying 3 but might wait if the problems mentioned are to be resolved
In reply to Post #438
The ones this summer will have a baitrunners, if you have a look at the Kevin Ellis video they show them on there, along with some others that are coming out
The ones this summer will have a baitrunners, if you have a look at the Kevin Ellis video they show them on there, along with some others that are coming out
In reply to Post #438
What problems? As already mentioned, the screw on the anti reverse lever needs tighening up, but that's the only fault I can find with them
What problems? As already mentioned, the screw on the anti reverse lever needs tighening up, but that's the only fault I can find with them
In reply to Post #440
I was under the assumption that they were reworking the handle and grip . If its just a baitrunner version being brought out this summer then I must of misread something else where.
I was under the assumption that they were reworking the handle and grip
. If its just a baitrunner version being brought out this summer then I must of misread something else where.
In reply to Post #441
We'll I thought the same thing regarding the handles.
But as I remember when watching the Kevin Ellis JRC blog , the Penn rep I,m sure said something about having a choice of handles
We'll I thought the same thing regarding the handles.
But as I remember when watching the Kevin Ellis JRC blog , the Penn rep I,m sure said something about having a choice of handles
Have lost the screw an the anti reverse lever off the reel
dose anyone know where I can get a new one from
thanks Sid,
dose anyone know where I can get a new one from
thanks Sid,
In reply to Post #443
I messaged KP spares once as they usually cover the pure fishing stuff but they said they dont deal with reels....
They told me to contact QM service who did sort me out a spare spool for a reel... Contact details below:
Q M Services
01752 603001
reelrepairs@qmservice.wanadoo.co.uk
Opening Hours Monday-Friday 08.30-16.30
www.fishingreelrepairs.co.uk
I messaged KP spares once as they usually cover the pure fishing stuff but they said they dont deal with reels....
They told me to contact QM service who did sort me out a spare spool for a reel... Contact details below:
Q M Services
01752 603001
reelrepairs@qmservice.wanadoo.co.uk
Opening Hours Monday-Friday 08.30-16.30
www.fishingreelrepairs.co.uk
In reply to Post #443
Reckon they must of forgotten to tighten them in the factory. When I had a set a while back, I had to tighten all of mine and on inspection of the display model in the shop, that was loose too, so I warned them so they could tighten all the stock models up before sale.
Reckon they must of forgotten to tighten them in the factory. When I had a set a while back, I had to tighten all of mine and on inspection of the display model in the shop, that was loose too, so I warned them so they could tighten all the stock models up before sale.
In reply to Post #444
Thank you chris
Gave them a call and now have my new anti reverse lever
on its way
Top man thanks for your help
Thank you chris
Gave them a call and now have my new anti reverse lever
on its way
Top man thanks for your help
In reply to Post #446
So, how's everyone getting on with there's then having had them on the bank for some time?
So, how's everyone getting on with there's then having had them on the bank for some time?
In reply to Post #447
Can't fault mine used and abused and have been faultless
Can't fault mine used and abused and have been faultless
In reply to Post #447
Been faultless, are a joy to use. In fact I'm thinking about getting two more to go on my River Rods
Been faultless, are a joy to use. In fact I'm thinking about getting two more to go on my River Rods
Love mine. Like the previous posts cant fault them .. although im still waiting to hear back from Quentin for when they have the wooden handles in!!
In reply to Post #450
Fantastic reels.
I purchased 3 and they came with wooden handles and rubber handles.
Awesome reels.. really enjoy using them. Line lay is great.
Fantastic reels.
I purchased 3 and they came with wooden handles and rubber handles.
Awesome reels.. really enjoy using them. Line lay is great.
Just a quick question, how do the handles on the reel fold in? Iv'e seen different photos with the conventional 5000t one-touch like handle and then others that just look standard handles. Was going to order from Angling Direct, just something i need cleared up. Cheers
In reply to Post #452
The ones that I have look like the standard handle but the collar slides back allowing the handle to fold, difficult to explain until you have one in your hands. Not quite as convenient as the Daiwa ones but does the job.
The ones that I have look like the standard handle but the collar slides back allowing the handle to fold, difficult to explain until you have one in your hands. Not quite as convenient as the Daiwa ones but does the job.
In reply to Post #453
Got 3 of the 7000 ltd liveliners and although not used yet they look and feel beautiful.
Came with both handles and some shim thingies in the box
Got 3 of the 7000 ltd liveliners and although not used yet they look and feel beautiful.
Came with both handles and some shim thingies in the box
In reply to Post #454
couldnt resist anymore....purchased 3 Penn Affinity LC 7000 Ltd. reels
couldnt resist anymore....purchased 3 Penn Affinity LC 7000 Ltd. reels
In reply to Post #455
Good man
Good man
In reply to Post #455
You won't regret it mate. Got 3 myself and were far better than the Avid Carp big pits I had before
You won't regret it mate. Got 3 myself and were far better than the Avid Carp big pits I had before
In reply to Post #454
Let me know how you get on with the LL
Let me know how you get on with the LL
In reply to Post #458
Not very LTD these reels....
Good thing there not though
Not very LTD these reels....
Good thing there not though
In reply to Post #458
I will but that won't be for a while
I will but that won't be for a while
In reply to Post #459
I get there LTD ref the Black but for that to hold water they need to release the Pink version pretty soon
I get there LTD ref the Black but for that to hold water they need to release the Pink version pretty soon
In reply to Post #447
It's all I use now , faultless and no gripes so far.
Put the others back in the boxes as I can't see me using them soon.
It's all I use now , faultless and no gripes so far.
Put the others back in the boxes as I can't see me using them soon.
In reply to Post #462
lost the feel of this page...........
are these reals any good???????????????
lost the feel of this page...........
are these reals any good???????????????
In reply to Post #463
In a word yes BUT with shimano reels dropping all the prices i would look at one of their models depending on budget
In a word yes BUT with shimano reels dropping all the prices i would look at one of their models depending on budget
Having used both I completely agree with this. Now that Shimano prices have fallen 30 - 40% from their peak the Penns (and other similar models from Mitchell. ESP etc.) look less appealing than they used to.
In reply to Post #465
What is the casting ability like with a 7000? The spools look slightly smaller than my current reels.
What is the casting ability like with a 7000? The spools look slightly smaller than my current reels.
In reply to Post #466
It's good. A mate and I did a lesson with Terry Edmonds. My friend was using a Basia with 0.33 and I was using a 7000 with 0.33 line and basically the distances were the same between the reels. A bit more line twist with the Penn's but no difference in distance.
(Before anyone gets upset, I'm not saying the Penn's are as good as a Basia. Just saying that they seem to cast the same distance).
It's good. A mate and I did a lesson with Terry Edmonds. My friend was using a Basia with 0.33 and I was using a 7000 with 0.33 line and basically the distances were the same between the reels. A bit more line twist with the Penn's but no difference in distance.
(Before anyone gets upset, I'm not saying the Penn's are as good as a Basia. Just saying that they seem to cast the same distance).
In reply to Post #467
The new way of thinking seems to be that big spools are not as fundamental for big casts as we first thought, and line diameter is more relevant. I may be wrong though
The new way of thinking seems to be that big spools are not as fundamental for big casts as we first thought, and line diameter is more relevant. I may be wrong though
In reply to Post #468
Line diameter has always been the easy way to get distance. Way back in the late 80's we were hitting 120yards with 2.5tc rods, a shock leader and 8lb mainline using standard bait runners.
Up that to 12lb line and the distances dropped quickly.
No matter what the magazines tell us (and some casters), big spools and 50mm guides are not the answer.
Narrow, long spools will produce smaller coils that need less controlling that therefore leads to less friction. I wont rant about guide size or numbers in this post
The issue with a long spool is the spindle. If the spool is right at its maximum reach, the spindle is very prone to bending.
Mitchell actually produced dedicated "distance "reels many years ago. The spool itself was around 8" from base to lip and "multi coned. It needed multiple bail rollers and you had to manually move the line back and forth. Picture in the link below.
http://www.eu.purefishing.com/blogs/fr/laurent-checko/files/2011/12/long-cast.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/mitchell-collectors.org/Images_Tournament.1/Mitchell%20Dist.2nd%20model.1.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/mitchell-collectors.org/Images_Tournament.1/Mitchell%20Dist.2nd%20model.3.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/mitchell-collectors.org/Images_Tournament.2/ta2c1.JPG
http://www.networkdimension.com/images/GMTourneyReel1.jpg
Line diameter has always been the easy way to get distance. Way back in the late 80's we were hitting 120yards with 2.5tc rods, a shock leader and 8lb mainline using standard bait runners.
Up that to 12lb line and the distances dropped quickly.
No matter what the magazines tell us (and some casters), big spools and 50mm guides are not the answer.
Narrow, long spools will produce smaller coils that need less controlling that therefore leads to less friction. I wont rant about guide size or numbers in this post
The issue with a long spool is the spindle. If the spool is right at its maximum reach, the spindle is very prone to bending.
Mitchell actually produced dedicated "distance "reels many years ago. The spool itself was around 8" from base to lip and "multi coned. It needed multiple bail rollers and you had to manually move the line back and forth. Picture in the link below.
http://www.eu.purefishing.com/blogs/fr/laurent-checko/files/2011/12/long-cast.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/mitchell-collectors.org/Images_Tournament.1/Mitchell%20Dist.2nd%20model.1.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/mitchell-collectors.org/Images_Tournament.1/Mitchell%20Dist.2nd%20model.3.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/mitchell-collectors.org/Images_Tournament.2/ta2c1.JPG
http://www.networkdimension.com/images/GMTourneyReel1.jpg
In reply to Post #469
Forgive me if this post is too old, but I'm after some 7000. Are they compact, small reel, ok for smaller rods like 10' 11'.
I'm after a baby big pit for my river carp, barbel sessions. Maybe a silly question but I have some Shaimano GTE 8000B are they about the same size bulk wise, but with just a longer spool front?
Don't want to buy anything too big to be honest.
Thanks all. Rich.
Forgive me if this post is too old, but I'm after some 7000. Are they compact, small reel, ok for smaller rods like 10' 11'.
I'm after a baby big pit for my river carp, barbel sessions. Maybe a silly question but I have some Shaimano GTE 8000B are they about the same size bulk wise, but with just a longer spool front?
Don't want to buy anything too big to be honest.
Thanks all. Rich.
In reply to Post #470
No be too big imo
No be too big imo
In reply to Post #470
They are quite a big reel to be fair I had the 8000 they are massive. The thing I would say is that they are the best reels I've had built well and the line lay is spot on. Have a look at the Shimano ultegra 5500.
They are quite a big reel to be fair I had the 8000 they are massive. The thing I would say is that they are the best reels I've had built well and the line lay is spot on. Have a look at the Shimano ultegra 5500.
In reply to Post #472
Teamed my baby ballistas with 5500 ultegra xtc ci4 reels. Feels spot on to me.
Teamed my baby ballistas with 5500 ultegra xtc ci4 reels. Feels spot on to me.
In reply to Post #470
Way to big mate and heavy. Best reel for money I've owned.
Way to big mate and heavy. Best reel for money I've owned.
In reply to Post #470
Fantastic reels.......much too big and heavy for short rods
My advice find a pair of the original 3500 Baitrunners Sea Spin they balance out a pair of 11ft Baliista's perfectly and weigh the same as a feather (you can pick them up 2nd hand for around £30-40)
For something a bit more modern I use 5500 Ultegra XTB ci14 but not very often on these rods I find them very light but a bit bulky...perfect for my 12ft 2.25's though
Fantastic reels.......much too big and heavy for short rods
My advice find a pair of the original 3500 Baitrunners Sea Spin they balance out a pair of 11ft Baliista's perfectly and weigh the same as a feather (you can pick them up 2nd hand for around £30-40)
For something a bit more modern I use 5500 Ultegra XTB ci14 but not very often on these rods I find them very light but a bit bulky...perfect for my 12ft 2.25's though
How would the Penns stack up against the Daiwa windcasts? Better or about the same?
In reply to Post #476
Better imo
Better imo
In reply to Post #477
Cheers
Cheers
In reply to Post #478
What's the difference between this reel and the Penn affinity ll ?
What's the difference between this reel and the Penn affinity ll ?
In reply to Post #479
New version has a different drag knob, only comes with 1 handle, and no spare spool. Not sure about the internals. Both bloody good reels
New version has a different drag knob, only comes with 1 handle, and no spare spool. Not sure about the internals. Both bloody good reels
In reply to Post #480
Stronger main shaft as the original did suffer some flexing told that by the rep which I was shocked about to be honest
Stronger main shaft as the original did suffer some flexing told that by the rep which I was shocked about to be honest
In reply to Post #481
Never noticed that myself mate, had cats over 60 on them too which I'd have thought would show it up tbh. Either way, bloody good reels for way less than similar spec shimano or daiwa offerings
Never noticed that myself mate, had cats over 60 on them too which I'd have thought would show it up tbh. Either way, bloody good reels for way less than similar spec shimano or daiwa offerings
In reply to Post #482
Thanks for the replies guys 👍
Thanks for the replies guys 👍
In reply to Post #482
Yeah I was shocked when he mentioned it my mate had a spool cap issue and they sent him some out no problems at all. I like how the handle folds on the new version too like you say for the money they are superb
Yeah I was shocked when he mentioned it my mate had a spool cap issue and they sent him some out no problems at all. I like how the handle folds on the new version too like you say for the money they are superb
In reply to Post #484
Handles fold on the old version too mate
Handles fold on the old version too mate
In reply to Post #485
Yeah I know mate but was it by a button or sliding the collar out the way I can't remember
Yeah I know mate but was it by a button or sliding the collar out the way I can't remember
In reply to Post #486
You know what, I'd never noticed it was different from the old models tbh
You know what, I'd never noticed it was different from the old models tbh
In reply to Post #487
In reply to Post #488
Are the spools the same on the two of them as well ie interchangeable?
I have the 2s and looking at buying some more spools but they are off the ltd
Are the spools the same on the two of them as well ie interchangeable?
I have the 2s and looking at buying some more spools but they are off the ltd
In reply to Post #489
I'm not sure
I'm not sure
In reply to Post #490
I heard Affinities suffer with bad line twist
I heard Affinities suffer with bad line twist
In reply to Post #491
Well whoever told you that is f.o.s
Well whoever told you that is f.o.s
In reply to Post #491
No line twist. Whoever told you that is doing something seriously wrong.
No line twist. Whoever told you that is doing something seriously wrong.
I've got a set of the Affinty 3s in 7000 size and love them, no line twist at all.
In reply to Post #491
There's lots of possible reasons for line twist. I've had 2 sets of 7000's and never suffered with noticeable line twist.
There's lots of possible reasons for line twist. I've had 2 sets of 7000's and never suffered with noticeable line twist.
In reply to Post #495
spooling up correctly would be a start. making sure its coming off the line spool anti clockwise
spooling up correctly would be a start. making sure its coming off the line spool anti clockwise
In reply to Post #496
My Daiwa twistbusters seem great at reducing line twist competed to my previous Shims and Penns
My Daiwa twistbusters seem great at reducing line twist competed to my previous Shims and Penns
In reply to Post #497
Its not a twistbuster, its just a line roller...
Its all about spooling your reel correctly and periodically removing any twist that develops.
Its not a twistbuster, its just a line roller...
Its all about spooling your reel correctly and periodically removing any twist that develops.
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