In reply to Post #3
My sentiments exactly, I couldn't have put it better .... I'll be raising a glass to him a little later

In reply to Post #376
I never mentioned wobble or play I said shake in the reel stem which they all have ie flexibility , with the reel attached to the rod you can twist the whole assy through the stem , this means it feels bloody terrible if your cranking in big leads or clumps of weed

In reply to Post #376
Good for you

In reply to Post #374
I had a set of those okuma s your talking about , I had the integrator pros which are the black bodied carp one and some of the surf versions with the pearl white body , they were pretty good reels ...........very smooth , good clutch , decent retrieve rate etc but I found they were almost identical in performance to the ultegra 5500xtb and had the same faults ie there was flex through the reel stem which I hated ........I themn changed to some ultegra ci4 which were way better , same clutch and retrieve rate etc but tighter and smoother with absolutely no shake in the stem , the body is completely rigid and a little bit lighter .

I would go as far as to say the ci4 is pretty close to the performance of my aero techs and and the equal of the power aero to say the okuma is anywhere close to it , is a load of absolute cobblers .

In reply to Post #371
My only take on their performance is positive withe caveat that they were us built multis and were in another league completely to the far eastern penns in this thread . They lasted years without degradation and gave trouble free service but its not the same product or even manufactured on the same continent so the comparison with the penns that built their rep against the new offerings built by god knows who for pure fishing is a nonsense

If they are still selling the way they are now in f e years I will gladly eat my words

In reply to Post #360
i cant wait to see those pics Jon ..............if it were me id put my faith in the shimano big blue

In reply to Post #351
I think you will find the qc on the cheaper reels quite a bit less stringent Keith

i am not saying they are rubbish , if they were i wouldn't have bought one , but i think recent market success along with their popularity on here has more to do with the asthetic than performance .............i don't think daiwa or shimano will be loosing many sales or any sleep over pure fishings latest offerings . what i really like is the way the manufacturer has reacted to to giving the punter something they actually desire ie the all black big pit reel .

In reply to Post #348
it never ceases to amaze just how gullible carp anglers are but hats off to pure fishing for recognising the trend or niche market for this reel .

time will tell how good the reel is , as they are not the same as the old US made warhorses , whether they will be any better than any of the other Chinese made reels branded by korum , ck , still water , tfg etc , remains to be seen .

In reply to Post #1368
i went to the cinema to see it Ken and i can assure i wasnt laughing when i left .............at first i thought it was quite simply rubbish but it did affect my subconsious mind , i had dream after dream , some of them quite terrifing , i can honestly say that film creeped me right out .

as i said before , i dont believe , i am a dyed in the wool sceptic but i do believe that some people as predisposed or sensitive to parnormal behaviour , conduits if you like ............and i am not calling anyone a tube before someone takes offense .

In reply to Post #1364
mr claypole at work again