As per the title I'm thinking about designing a bite alarm and would be grateful for thoughts on functions capabilities and form. What would be your number one wish? What is biggest irritation? List of features? Thanks in advance.
In reply to Post #1
Compact heads ,similar in size to mmxr,
Reciever,with upgraded vibration technology ,for silent alert and or for hearing impaired anglers,...and if at all possible,a wrist reciever ,again with vibration technology..
Either of the above..
Compact heads ,similar in size to mmxr,
Reciever,with upgraded vibration technology ,for silent alert and or for hearing impaired anglers,...and if at all possible,a wrist reciever ,again with vibration technology..
Either of the above..
In reply to Post #1
I still think a fox RX is the bench mark myself. But if I was designing one:
Make them bullet proof, ultimate reliability, because that is what will sell them longer term for me
I like the look of the Gardner ones and would have long type snag ears built into the alarm as the standard
Volume, tone and sensitivity with QUALITY controls either touch switch or knobs that have a pronounced “click”
Use quality materials throughout that are solid, thats why I think the Fox ones are solid, some are just utter cheap crap
No wires, battery contacts and cover that clicks perfectly every time
Night light option or one betalight slot
Good battery life
Receiver option
Stainless thread with two stainless nuts on so the alarms can be locked in place on the buzz bars without the need for crappy O rings
I still think a fox RX is the bench mark myself. But if I was designing one:
Make them bullet proof, ultimate reliability, because that is what will sell them longer term for me
I like the look of the Gardner ones and would have long type snag ears built into the alarm as the standard
Volume, tone and sensitivity with QUALITY controls either touch switch or knobs that have a pronounced “click”
Use quality materials throughout that are solid, thats why I think the Fox ones are solid, some are just utter cheap crap
No wires, battery contacts and cover that clicks perfectly every time
Night light option or one betalight slot
Good battery life
Receiver option
Stainless thread with two stainless nuts on so the alarms can be locked in place on the buzz bars without the need for crappy O rings
In reply to Post #3
Definitely the no wires battery contacts..
Definitely the no wires battery contacts..
In reply to Post #1
The ACE were pretty close to the perfect alarm but for me my list would be.Mute function,drop back differential,twin led on the heads able to change colour of led and a function to see last alarm to have a bleep on the receiver(call back mode).Easy to use and good size alarms and receiver
The ACE were pretty close to the perfect alarm but for me my list would be.Mute function,drop back differential,twin led on the heads able to change colour of led and a function to see last alarm to have a bleep on the receiver(call back mode).Easy to use and good size alarms and receiver
In reply to Post #5
Wolf icon qi and hub have all that and more.
Wolf icon qi and hub have all that and more.
In reply to Post #1
Have a look at the fox micron X, not much left to improve on.
Have a look at the fox micron X, not much left to improve on.
In reply to Post #6
Not a good size head or receiver,agree they have amazing functions
Not a good size head or receiver,agree they have amazing functions
In reply to Post #1
If you do and they carry a good warranty and customer service,put me down for two and a receiver
If you do and they carry a good warranty and customer service,put me down for two and a receiver
I think the vibration tech is patented by delkim, could be a slippery slope going down that road.
I believe most other alarms use a roller wheel and then different tech to attempt stopping false readings like wind etc. interfering.
IMO if you could find something more effective than a roller wheel or perhaps more reliable then your over halfway there. Lets be real the majority of modern alarms all have volume, tone & sensitivity adjustments so I would expect these all to be included with a strong & waterproof housing.
I believe most other alarms use a roller wheel and then different tech to attempt stopping false readings like wind etc. interfering.
IMO if you could find something more effective than a roller wheel or perhaps more reliable then your over halfway there. Lets be real the majority of modern alarms all have volume, tone & sensitivity adjustments so I would expect these all to be included with a strong & waterproof housing.
In reply to Post #10
Wolf Icon QI have vibration
Wolf Icon QI have vibration
In reply to Post #10
Don't really understand how they could patttent piezo vibration sensing as they didn't invent it, maybe just for use in a bite alarm?
Don't really understand how they could patttent piezo vibration sensing as they didn't invent it, maybe just for use in a bite alarm?
In reply to Post #1
For me atts head size and looks, small speaker- mute button and that would do me
For me atts head size and looks, small speaker- mute button and that would do me
In reply to Post #11
Just had a look on the website and they use a roller wheel. Not too sure what the Vibration Detection System is though as it just says VDS. High Sensitivity Roller Wheel Detection – RWD.
I was meaning the initial way the alarm registers a bite.
V groove registering vibration and movement
- Delkim
Roller wheel
- Nash
- Fox
- Gardener
- Korum
- Sonik
As I said I think if you find an alternative that is better then these then your onto a winner otherwise it would just be another bite alarm with the same tech that's already available.
Just had a look on the website and they use a roller wheel. Not too sure what the Vibration Detection System is though as it just says VDS. High Sensitivity Roller Wheel Detection – RWD.
I was meaning the initial way the alarm registers a bite.
V groove registering vibration and movement
- Delkim
Roller wheel
- Nash
- Fox
- Gardener
- Korum
- Sonik
As I said I think if you find an alternative that is better then these then your onto a winner otherwise it would just be another bite alarm with the same tech that's already available.
In reply to Post #10
Patents are limited usually around 20 years and it's expired,
https://patents.google.com/patent/GB2222060A/en
He's got quite a few other patents running just click on his name
Patents are limited usually around 20 years and it's expired,
https://patents.google.com/patent/GB2222060A/en
He's got quite a few other patents running just click on his name
In reply to Post #1
Will this be a fulcrum alarm or will it be ACE or chub
Will this be a fulcrum alarm or will it be ACE or chub
Problem is it takes a very long time to establish a good reputation in the alarm market and there has never been so much competition.
In reply to Post #16
Fulcrum
Fulcrum
In reply to Post #17
I guess with the worldwide semiconductor shortages, everything being on a 52 week plus leadtime plus components costs etc we're not going to see a product on the market for about 18 months / two years so plenty of time - pretty much a standard development cycle.
I guess with the worldwide semiconductor shortages, everything being on a 52 week plus leadtime plus components costs etc we're not going to see a product on the market for about 18 months / two years so plenty of time - pretty much a standard development cycle.
In reply to Post #19
Yes, that's an issue of course, but not insurmountable.
Yes, that's an issue of course, but not insurmountable.
Cnc a Neville out of aluminium, anodise it black, power it with aa or aaa batteries.. job done
In reply to Post #17
I have some history
I have some history
In reply to Post #22
Without the right financial backing history may not count for much. What happened to ace, solar etc. Although I bought wolf as I liked the features and design which many don't, the fact that the people involved had history with numerous alarms ie dxr, lxr, rx digital helped along with the 4 year warranty and UK based support. Very few on the banks yet so not sure they will make it long term but they seem to be developing other products around the alarms like illuminated bobbins and intruder detection. Sadly most investors don't seem to look at long term.
Without the right financial backing history may not count for much. What happened to ace, solar etc. Although I bought wolf as I liked the features and design which many don't, the fact that the people involved had history with numerous alarms ie dxr, lxr, rx digital helped along with the 4 year warranty and UK based support. Very few on the banks yet so not sure they will make it long term but they seem to be developing other products around the alarms like illuminated bobbins and intruder detection. Sadly most investors don't seem to look at long term.
In reply to Post #23
Solar fell victim to faulty design and unfortunate events, ACE didn't fit Shimano's profit levels.
Solar fell victim to faulty design and unfortunate events, ACE didn't fit Shimano's profit levels.
In reply to Post #1
Vibration as well as roller would be the one for me. Not like the Wolf option which I believe makes its own mind up where vibration is concerned. I mean a head that can be switched between roller, vibration, or both, and works effectively for all of the above.
Vibration as well as roller would be the one for me. Not like the Wolf option which I believe makes its own mind up where vibration is concerned. I mean a head that can be switched between roller, vibration, or both, and works effectively for all of the above.
In reply to Post #25
Wolf can be switched between the two or both.
Wolf can be switched between the two or both.
In reply to Post #26
I was under the impression that the vibrarion/roller switched automatically using an auto sensing system Goose?
I was under the impression that the vibrarion/roller switched automatically using an auto sensing system Goose?
In reply to Post #23
Paul has history with alarms
Paul has history with alarms
In reply to Post #28
I know he does.
I know he does.
In reply to Post #27
It can if you choose to use it that way but either can be set lower than the other so the higher set takes priority or switch it to zero.
It can if you choose to use it that way but either can be set lower than the other so the higher set takes priority or switch it to zero.
In reply to Post #1
I think if anything with battery technology, integration etc I'd actually like something a lot smaller (half the size of a fox, delkim etc) but feature rich - as long as you can attach snag ears, its always a pain when having to pack everything away and buzz bars with alarms take a lot of space.
I think if anything with battery technology, integration etc I'd actually like something a lot smaller (half the size of a fox, delkim etc) but feature rich - as long as you can attach snag ears, its always a pain when having to pack everything away and buzz bars with alarms take a lot of space.
In reply to Post #31
Size of alarms not too important to me.
Size of alarms not too important to me.
The original Fox that had vibration sensing and the Wolf use both a magnet and piezo vibration sensor and to be fair was a clever way around the Delkim thing. Although apparently the Wolf has a fully enclosed wheel housing whereas the Foxes werent quite so.
Re new alarm to be fair I think the Ace i3 pretty much nailed it first off and its unbelievable Shimano group didnt re-release it.
as mentioned though definately no bleepy function buttons ! god they're annoying
Also, some wont feel it important. But aesthetics go a long way and symmetry in the design rather than the 'Picasso' Fox approach. So a central or hidden speaker and round LED on each ear.
Re new alarm to be fair I think the Ace i3 pretty much nailed it first off and its unbelievable Shimano group didnt re-release it.
as mentioned though definately no bleepy function buttons ! god they're annoying
Also, some wont feel it important. But aesthetics go a long way and symmetry in the design rather than the 'Picasso' Fox approach. So a central or hidden speaker and round LED on each ear.
In reply to Post #33
Yes no push buttons, menus and sub menus, simple rotary controls please.
Yes no push buttons, menus and sub menus, simple rotary controls please.
Exactly the same as ATTS but with a speaker in the head.
In reply to Post #32
Using atts since they came out has made me struggle
To accept the look and size of most alarms
To me. Delkims look like a brittle laptop
New fox ones look like Batman's car etc.
Of couse it shouldnt matter and in reality it doesn't as I just like
Simplicity of them not the look. But they do make everything else look jarring.
Using atts since they came out has made me struggle
To accept the look and size of most alarms
To me. Delkims look like a brittle laptop
New fox ones look like Batman's car etc.
Of couse it shouldnt matter and in reality it doesn't as I just like
Simplicity of them not the look. But they do make everything else look jarring.
In reply to Post #1
Body / size of TXI D
Innards / tech of Wolf Icon
All functions controlled by remote & head (duplicated)
Vibration wrist strap a nice idea
Software updates / future proofing
5yr no quibble warranty
Don't care about colour adjustable LEDs
Don't care about buttons or dials as long as its intuitive
Body / size of TXI D
Innards / tech of Wolf Icon
All functions controlled by remote & head (duplicated)
Vibration wrist strap a nice idea
Software updates / future proofing
5yr no quibble warranty
Don't care about colour adjustable LEDs
Don't care about buttons or dials as long as its intuitive
Do something completely radical. Do away with the head altogether and have a digital monkey climber with a motion sensor in it. So in effect the alarm and the bobbin are the same thing. In fact the bar that the monkey climber runs up could have magnets every 5mm. Then as the bobbin/alarm rises it could sense them like a roller wheel.
A compact good looking version with all the features of the wolf iq would be great. Its probably the hardest market of all to crack.
In reply to Post #43
Not a dog but genuine question, do people really use any of these features?
I get volume, tone and sensitivity but I had all these with my original delkim conversations about 40 years ago, the remote is a real game changer but anything else to me is faff.
I don't need to change colour led
I don't need to have a mute, as I have all heads on mute and turn down receiver
I don't want to, nor would I trust changing settings from bivvy - I am only 4 yards from the heads.
Do I want a nightlight function- not really, even less so one that has multiple settings.
Do I want a computer display screen, absolutely not, I want individual things that go wrong and can be repaired as opposed to some wizardry that requires perfect eye sight.
The old Andy Little roller buzzers - with a remote is all I have ever wished for.
Not a dog but genuine question, do people really use any of these features?
I get volume, tone and sensitivity but I had all these with my original delkim conversations about 40 years ago, the remote is a real game changer but anything else to me is faff.
I don't need to change colour led
I don't need to have a mute, as I have all heads on mute and turn down receiver
I don't want to, nor would I trust changing settings from bivvy - I am only 4 yards from the heads.
Do I want a nightlight function- not really, even less so one that has multiple settings.
Do I want a computer display screen, absolutely not, I want individual things that go wrong and can be repaired as opposed to some wizardry that requires perfect eye sight.
The old Andy Little roller buzzers - with a remote is all I have ever wished for.
Mood dependant with me, most of the time will use nev's for their simplicity but when I start fishing at range with tight lines it will be the icons.
In reply to Post #35
So a Gardner tlb plus
👍
So a Gardner tlb plus
👍
The Vimarco FNX looked very futuristic when they came out,never took off though
In reply to Post #32
It is to me , guess I'm a tart , I like attx
It is to me , guess I'm a tart , I like attx
In reply to Post #1
Too big and a lot of people will be put off buying.
Too complicated and that will put people off (I have TXI-D's which have been perfect for me, but in this day of instant everything a lot of people can't be bothered spending an hour learning to use them properly).
So for me, to maximise potential sales you need a compact head size, volume/tone/sensitivity dials, drop back differentiation (never bothered me but it's a bonus and a lot of people like it), and ability to switch between roller and vibration sensing. Being able to change LED colour would win a few more people over too.
Waterproof obviously. Quality receiver that just works. Double stainless locking screws or some kind of quick lock system.
Separate snag ears, otherwise the heads can get bulky when putting away, especially when attached to buzz bars.
Matching accessories would be a bonus and could potentially be sold as a complete kit (alarms, receiver, bobbins etc, though the option to buy everything separately has to remain).
And the last one, price. If they're the same price (or more) as top of the line Delks and Fox, realistically how many sales are you going to take off them? It's an incredibly difficult market to break into.
Too big and a lot of people will be put off buying.
Too complicated and that will put people off (I have TXI-D's which have been perfect for me, but in this day of instant everything a lot of people can't be bothered spending an hour learning to use them properly).
So for me, to maximise potential sales you need a compact head size, volume/tone/sensitivity dials, drop back differentiation (never bothered me but it's a bonus and a lot of people like it), and ability to switch between roller and vibration sensing. Being able to change LED colour would win a few more people over too.
Waterproof obviously. Quality receiver that just works. Double stainless locking screws or some kind of quick lock system.
Separate snag ears, otherwise the heads can get bulky when putting away, especially when attached to buzz bars.
Matching accessories would be a bonus and could potentially be sold as a complete kit (alarms, receiver, bobbins etc, though the option to buy everything separately has to remain).
And the last one, price. If they're the same price (or more) as top of the line Delks and Fox, realistically how many sales are you going to take off them? It's an incredibly difficult market to break into.
In reply to Post #38
This was done many years ago, by I believe two companies.
This was done many years ago, by I believe two companies.
In reply to Post #50
Indeed, price, price, price. In the end we are talking about a piece of plastic that says beep.
Indeed, price, price, price. In the end we are talking about a piece of plastic that says beep.
In reply to Post #52
All the other manufacturers have been building volume for some time and we are now in an era when everything costs more so the reality is it's going to cost a bit more - you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work it out...
The days of selling on price are long gone.
If it was a simple bit of plastic that went beep how would it qualify for patents...
All the other manufacturers have been building volume for some time and we are now in an era when everything costs more so the reality is it's going to cost a bit more - you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work it out...
The days of selling on price are long gone.
If it was a simple bit of plastic that went beep how would it qualify for patents...
In reply to Post #1
What about an alarm that talked to you -
Motion sensor when you get up at first light for a p*ss - "Mornin' fella!"
1 Bleep - "Seriously?"
2 Bleeps - "Not sure I'd bother - up to you"
3 Bleeps - "Could be a biggun!"
Aborted run - "Muppet / Nooonce!"
Screamer - "Fish on mofo!"
Drop back - "Reel Reel Reel"
Alarm fiddling - "Stop fiddling nod!"
etc . . .maybe you could have a regional accent option dial?
What about an alarm that talked to you -
Motion sensor when you get up at first light for a p*ss - "Mornin' fella!"
1 Bleep - "Seriously?"
2 Bleeps - "Not sure I'd bother - up to you"
3 Bleeps - "Could be a biggun!"
Aborted run - "Muppet / Nooonce!"
Screamer - "Fish on mofo!"
Drop back - "Reel Reel Reel"
Alarm fiddling - "Stop fiddling nod!"
etc . . .maybe you could have a regional accent option dial?
In reply to Post #54
2 bleeps is spot on for me. I only stand for a full run
2 bleeps is spot on for me. I only stand for a full run
What about an alarm that Bluetooth connects to your phone, making your phone the receiver and you can set any tone, sound, MP3, whatever you wanted.
Gives you the freedom to set it on vibration at nighttime and most phones connect to smart watches anyway so you could then make most smart watches into a receiver.
Gives you the freedom to set it on vibration at nighttime and most phones connect to smart watches anyway so you could then make most smart watches into a receiver.
In reply to Post #56
I had thought of this some years ago but someone told me that having the phone on bluetooth all the time would be inhibitive and munch through the batteries.
Disclaimer: I have no idea how true that is.
If it's not a problem, it seems a good idea.
I had thought of this some years ago but someone told me that having the phone on bluetooth all the time would be inhibitive and munch through the batteries.
Disclaimer: I have no idea how true that is.
If it's not a problem, it seems a good idea.
In reply to Post #56
That might suit some people but I couldn't think of anything worse.
I just want a receiver that I turn on and leave on for days on end, cant be doing with phone fiddling.
That might suit some people but I couldn't think of anything worse.
I just want a receiver that I turn on and leave on for days on end, cant be doing with phone fiddling.
In reply to Post #58
Me too, definitely wouldn't want my phone to be my received too
Me too, definitely wouldn't want my phone to be my received too
In reply to Post #56
I created a sounder box that did exactly that but it wasn't popular.
I created a sounder box that did exactly that but it wasn't popular.
In reply to Post #57
No longer true, Bluetooth LE (4 or above) uses very little battery life
No longer true, Bluetooth LE (4 or above) uses very little battery life
In reply to Post #61
How long will it be to see what designs you are thinking of and features you're going to include
How long will it be to see what designs you are thinking of and features you're going to include
In reply to Post #61
And don't forget all contributors to this thread get a free set.
And don't forget all contributors to this thread get a free set.
In reply to Post #62
Mmm... and give my competition a heads up? 😂
Mmm... and give my competition a heads up? 😂
In reply to Post #63
Obviously 🥳
Obviously 🥳
In reply to Post #65
Is there another way to get an indication. Like using a laser style beam, when the beam is broken or disturbed it sets the alarm off.
Is there another way to get an indication. Like using a laser style beam, when the beam is broken or disturbed it sets the alarm off.
In reply to Post #66
There are many ways and techniques but a lot are power hungry.
There are many ways and techniques but a lot are power hungry.
In reply to Post #66
Is that not similar to how an Optonic works?
Is that not similar to how an Optonic works?
In reply to Post #67
Sensor on the rod monitoring any spool movements. Be rubbish slack lining. Remember those little alarms that clipped to the rod blank with a roller.
Sensor on the rod monitoring any spool movements. Be rubbish slack lining. Remember those little alarms that clipped to the rod blank with a roller.
Years ago a mate of mine got these dodgy reels with built in alarms. The spool would go and the alarm would sound. We used to rip the piss out of him something chronic, "musical reels" we used to call them. But in principle if you're happy to fish with loose(ish) clutches the idea was ok I guess.
In reply to Post #1
One i genuinely cant believe hasn't been introduced yet is a phone app to help with setup and settings. As in LED colour, tone, sensitivity, battery life in alarm etc etc.
the technology is definitely there to be used - just no one applying it yet.
Also like the idea of having the indication linked to a watch/ smart watch as mentioned.
One i genuinely cant believe hasn't been introduced yet is a phone app to help with setup and settings. As in LED colour, tone, sensitivity, battery life in alarm etc etc.
the technology is definitely there to be used - just no one applying it yet.
Also like the idea of having the indication linked to a watch/ smart watch as mentioned.
In reply to Post #70
Made by dam iirc. God awful things
Made by dam iirc. God awful things
In reply to Post #71
Agree with others - phone app is a good but 'unstable' idea - a phone is a phone; an alarm needs to just be an alarm. Maybe just having the phone as a back up receiver? Would also worry about my phone running out of power etc
Gimmicky but could the be one for the nerds - what about stats after a session in terms of alarm head to phone app link - ie. number and time of 'occurences' / number and time of full blown runs etc. How many times have you probably been 'done' in half sleep or maybe failed to hit a small dropback when not looking at the bobbin / rod tip etc? Could be useful or depressing or both!
Agree with others - phone app is a good but 'unstable' idea - a phone is a phone; an alarm needs to just be an alarm. Maybe just having the phone as a back up receiver? Would also worry about my phone running out of power etc
Gimmicky but could the be one for the nerds - what about stats after a session in terms of alarm head to phone app link - ie. number and time of 'occurences' / number and time of full blown runs etc. How many times have you probably been 'done' in half sleep or maybe failed to hit a small dropback when not looking at the bobbin / rod tip etc? Could be useful or depressing or both!
I think its already been said on here but I think something with the Wolf QI functions in a smaller package.The Wolf are pretty much the perfect alarm and the receiver is very impressive too
In reply to Post #72
I think you might be right Ian, and yes they were truly awful
I think you might be right Ian, and yes they were truly awful
In reply to Post #71
I can't see the problem with getting off you arse and turning a few knobs.
I mean, after adjusting your alarm would you not be tempted to give it a tug just to check it anyway?
I suppose there must be a market for phone app bite alarms but I wonder about their longevity once the novelty has worn off
A restyled, cheaper version of the Wolf would be a winner IMO. See post#74
I can't see the problem with getting off you arse and turning a few knobs.
I mean, after adjusting your alarm would you not be tempted to give it a tug just to check it anyway?
I suppose there must be a market for phone app bite alarms but I wonder about their longevity once the novelty has worn off
A restyled, cheaper version of the Wolf would be a winner IMO. See post#74
In reply to Post #76
Nooooooooo, all the selfie look at me **** will be linking every take with video cover straight to insta, Facebook etc.
Nooooooooo, all the selfie look at me **** will be linking every take with video cover straight to insta, Facebook etc.
In reply to Post #68
The originals just used infra-red LEDs which are power hungry devices. Del Romang added a magnet and reed switch to reduce the drain substantially.
The originals just used infra-red LEDs which are power hungry devices. Del Romang added a magnet and reed switch to reduce the drain substantially.
In reply to Post #71
Phone apps the manufacturer has to maintain them so that they work with the next flavour ofIOS, Android etc and we all know from time to time app updates go wrong and besides our phones are doing more and more and tbh I go fishing to get away from the ruddy things !
I just don't think it really brings anything just a gimmick imho stick with knobs & buttons ! And a separate receiver.
Phone apps the manufacturer has to maintain them so that they work with the next flavour ofIOS, Android etc and we all know from time to time app updates go wrong and besides our phones are doing more and more and tbh I go fishing to get away from the ruddy things !
I just don't think it really brings anything just a gimmick imho stick with knobs & buttons ! And a separate receiver.
In reply to Post #78
Magnetronics Loved my set , had 1xhi tone and 1xlow tone
Magnetronics
Loved my set , had 1xhi tone and 1xlow tone
In reply to Post #70
1993 when I started carp fishing my dad bought me those reels they was made by cormoran
1993 when I started carp fishing my dad bought me those reels they was made by cormoran
In reply to Post #81
Pretty sure they nicked the idea from dam
Pretty sure they nicked the idea from dam
In reply to Post #1
I'm not advocating the alarms able to connect to the receiver over silly distances but will it be 2.4GHz or 868MHz ISM ?
The lower the frequency the further you get and they are better for getting through densely wooded areas and the battery consumption is lower.
It's just a lot of alarms use 2.4GHz because you can get away with a stub / small antennae, like delkims and tbh power consumption is pretty low.
I'm not advocating the alarms able to connect to the receiver over silly distances but will it be 2.4GHz or 868MHz ISM ?
The lower the frequency the further you get and they are better for getting through densely wooded areas and the battery consumption is lower.
It's just a lot of alarms use 2.4GHz because you can get away with a stub / small antennae, like delkims and tbh power consumption is pretty low.
In reply to Post #83
To my knowledge nobody uses 2.4GHz except New Direction (Bluetooth)
To my knowledge nobody uses 2.4GHz except New Direction (Bluetooth)
In reply to Post #82
More than likely mate . DAM might of even owned cormoran . Who knows
More than likely mate . DAM might of even owned cormoran . Who knows
In reply to Post #85
I believe daiwa have a long standing tie in with cormoran, who along with dam I think are popular in Germany. It's not the worst idea really, would be a good feature for pike and cats where you fish with very little resistance I'd have thought.
I believe daiwa have a long standing tie in with cormoran, who along with dam I think are popular in Germany. It's not the worst idea really, would be a good feature for pike and cats where you fish with very little resistance I'd have thought.
In reply to Post #86
Only trouble with them was they didnt register a drop back or liners the alarm only made a noise when the spool moved the one I had was cormoran sl-elbas 30 just searched on line I had the model before that aswell but cant find it the alarm was really quite on both them no good for night fishing
Only trouble with them was they didnt register a drop back or liners the alarm only made a noise when the spool moved the one I had was cormoran sl-elbas 30 just searched on line I had the model before that aswell but cant find it the alarm was really quite on both them no good for night fishing
In reply to Post #86
Only trouble with them was they didnt register a drop back or liners the alarm only made a noise when the spool moved the one I had was cormoran sl-elbas 30 just searched on line I had the model before that aswell but cant find it the alarm was really quite on both them no good for night fishing
Only trouble with them was they didnt register a drop back or liners the alarm only made a noise when the spool moved the one I had was cormoran sl-elbas 30 just searched on line I had the model before that aswell but cant find it the alarm was really quite on both them no good for night fishing
Im a very heavy sleeper, i need some with an earthquake function on the reciever to wake me up!
Got the fox rx+ and even on max ive no chance
Got the fox rx+ and even on max ive no chance
In reply to Post #89
Maybe you should do days only.
Maybe you should do days only.
In reply to Post #89
So, no night fishing for you?
So, no night fishing for you?
In reply to Post #89
I have a mate with hearing issues. He wears his round his neck
During the day. At.night he clips the receiver to the bedchair frame at head level that seems to help
I have a mate with hearing issues. He wears his round his neck
During the day. At.night he clips the receiver to the bedchair frame at head level that seems to help
Nice compact head, leds above the rod, decent sensitivity control, reliable and a competitive price, make it nice looking ( not like them Nash sirens, they look like a can of lynx Africa) 
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