I have ordered a set of Nash Dwarfs after a couple of baby pits, this is only an occasional set up so not wanting to spend to much ideas would be gratefully received.
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Okuma inception 6000. If you can get hold of them. They are brilliant.
Okuma inception 6000. If you can get hold of them. They are brilliant.
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Yep Okuma inception inc 6000 great quality reels for the money under £60 a reel hard to beat for the price
Yep Okuma inception inc 6000 great quality reels for the money under £60 a reel hard to beat for the price
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Another vote for the Okuma Inc 6000. Can't fault them. Parkfield Angling Centre have some in, £95 a pair. Absolute bargain.
Another vote for the Okuma Inc 6000. Can't fault them. Parkfield Angling Centre have some in, £95 a pair. Absolute bargain.
Another vote for the okumas, ive 3 on my 10ft set up and they are brilliant
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That is a bargain, half tempted to get myself a 2nd set at that price. Very good quality reels regardless of the price
That is a bargain, half tempted to get myself a 2nd set at that price. Very good quality reels regardless of the price
Daiwa Emcast 25a are a decent choice, can get them new for under £80 each and very easy to convert to qd if you wanted
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Okuma Inc is already a FD so no conversion needed. I just bought some and can't believe how good they are for the price.
Okuma Inc is already a FD so no conversion needed. I just bought some and can't believe how good they are for the price.
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I have the Shim Ci4 5500, Emcast 25A, and Okuma 6000.
The 5500 is the best of the three as you would expect, with the Emcast next. (slightly better build\quality than the 6000)
The Emcast and 6000 weigh pretty much the same (6000 is a fraction lighter) , the 6000 is smaller and would be the Reel I'd go with for stalking..... the Daiwa casting. (slightly bigger spool)
As I recall the Okuma has a slightly quicker drag, but not stupid quick.
I have the Shim Ci4 5500, Emcast 25A, and Okuma 6000.
The 5500 is the best of the three as you would expect, with the Emcast next. (slightly better build\quality than the 6000)
The Emcast and 6000 weigh pretty much the same (6000 is a fraction lighter) , the 6000 is smaller and would be the Reel I'd go with for stalking..... the Daiwa casting. (slightly bigger spool)
As I recall the Okuma has a slightly quicker drag, but not stupid quick.
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Hello,
I have recently bought a set of 9ft rods, and did a lot of searching to get the best reels to match.
Being a person who would normally go and buy shimano.
I bought a shimano 5500 and okuma 6000, to play with them in the flesh, if you know what I mean.
The shimao was heavier by 18g, not that you would notice.
Didnt like the sticky rubber handle on the shimano or the clicking of the free spool knob on the front, also you had to loosen the drag of by more than a full turn to get the same freespool as the okuma 6000 which will freespool and 3/4 turn.
I decided to buy the Okuma inc 6000, bought 3 for the price of 1 shimano.
Have used them for about 9, 12 hour sessions, landed fish to 18lb, dont regret choosing a non shimano reel.
Time will tell...
Hello,
I have recently bought a set of 9ft rods, and did a lot of searching to get the best reels to match.
Being a person who would normally go and buy shimano.
I bought a shimano 5500 and okuma 6000, to play with them in the flesh, if you know what I mean.
The shimao was heavier by 18g, not that you would notice.
Didnt like the sticky rubber handle on the shimano or the clicking of the free spool knob on the front, also you had to loosen the drag of by more than a full turn to get the same freespool as the okuma 6000 which will freespool and 3/4 turn.
I decided to buy the Okuma inc 6000, bought 3 for the price of 1 shimano.
Have used them for about 9, 12 hour sessions, landed fish to 18lb, dont regret choosing a non shimano reel.
Time will tell...
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Had my okumas for a year now, they've had some hammer and I don't treat my gear lightly. All are still great, the only small issue I've had is one of the wooden handles has split but this is an easy fix.
Had my okumas for a year now, they've had some hammer and I don't treat my gear lightly. All are still great, the only small issue I've had is one of the wooden handles has split but this is an easy fix.
I have the same rods on my 9ft setup I use shimano ci4 5500s on them they feel great
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Had fish to 30lb on my 9ft set up using okuma inception 6000 reels. Felt superb. No bother at all. You wont get a better reel for the money.
Had fish to 30lb on my 9ft set up using okuma inception 6000 reels. Felt superb. No bother at all. You wont get a better reel for the money.
Hi Another for the Okuma Inc6000. Already had 3 on my 10ft set up,just bought a 4th for my floater rod. They are everything everyone says they are...Perfect size/weight,QD when bought,smooth,reliable and the right price. How long or if at all Shimano etc take notice? Okumas have been under the radar for a while ,but their day is looming!!
for the Okuma Inc6000. Already had 3 on my 10ft set up,just bought a 4th for my floater rod. They are everything everyone says they are...Perfect size/weight,QD when bought,smooth,reliable and the right price. How long or if at all Shimano etc take notice? Okumas have been under the radar for a while ,but their day is looming!!
For what it's worth I jumped on the inc6000 bandwagon as well and can't fault them. Super smooth, perfect line lay and just a joy to use. Just get them, you won't be disappointed.
I have 6 x Inc 6000 reels ... all very good so far .... I prefer them to my XTB5500
.... I prefer them to my XTB5500
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you bought them tried them and then bought the okuma were they try then buy?Post seen straight through the deception wasnt very good.
you bought them tried them and then bought the okuma were they try then buy?Post seen straight through the deception wasnt very good.
I bought a 10ft set up this year and paired them up with the Emcast 25a.
Used them about 6/7 times and I cannot fault them. Perfect for me
Used them about 6/7 times and I cannot fault them. Perfect for me
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I've got a set of the smaller Penn baby pits. Forget the number. Lovely reels.
I've got a set of the smaller Penn baby pits. Forget the number. Lovely reels.
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Are you talking about the affinities? I wouldn't call them baby pots and they're far too big for 10ft rods.
Are you talking about the affinities? I wouldn't call them baby pots and they're far too big for 10ft rods.
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I've got affinities on my insurgents no problem at all
I've got affinities on my insurgents no problem at all
Reels too big for rods is a load of old cobblers. Surely what is more important is the function of the set up? I use 9ft rods for boat work with 14000 spod reels. They weigh a ton, are certainly not ‘balanced' but they hold a load of line, don't mind being dunked and will tow a manatee in through a forest of Canadian.
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Well, an awful lot of people will tell you you're wrong on that score. Always better to have a balanced set-up, but if all you do all day is have your rods on rests, I get it. Try lure fishing or even floater fishing all day where your holding the rod and you'll soon understand the concept of having a rod/reel balance...
Well, an awful lot of people will tell you you're wrong on that score. Always better to have a balanced set-up, but if all you do all day is have your rods on rests, I get it. Try lure fishing or even floater fishing all day where your holding the rod and you'll soon understand the concept of having a rod/reel balance...
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Yep, I agree that when you hold the rod/cast for more than 2% of the time it makes a difference. But I was talking about the sedentary ol' carp fishing that takes up most of these pages.
Yep, I agree that when you hold the rod/cast for more than 2% of the time it makes a difference. But I was talking about the sedentary ol' carp fishing that takes up most of these pages.
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My idea of balanced is that the rod is not tip heavy in the hand. Bearing in mind that there is a weight hanging off the end of it as well, you need a very short rod and very heavy reel to unbalance the rod when casting.
My idea of balanced is that the rod is not tip heavy in the hand. Bearing in mind that there is a weight hanging off the end of it as well, you need a very short rod and very heavy reel to unbalance the rod when casting.
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I use the old rule of thumb that Jack Simpson showed me... place your index finger just above the reel and if your set up is balanced, the rod won't pivot up and down - it should just sit in a horizontal plane, balanced if you will. Try it... it works quite well for determining what reel is best to use with what rod.
I use the old rule of thumb that Jack Simpson showed me... place your index finger just above the reel and if your set up is balanced, the rod won't pivot up and down - it should just sit in a horizontal plane, balanced if you will. Try it... it works quite well for determining what reel is best to use with what rod.
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Exactly the kind of waffle I was referring to.
For a fly fishing or lure set up maybe....But how does being able to balance a rod horizontally on your finger have any real life meaning in a standard carp set up?
Exactly the kind of waffle I was referring to.
For a fly fishing or lure set up maybe....But how does being able to balance a rod horizontally on your finger have any real life meaning in a standard carp set up?
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Hardly waffle. That's exactly how I check for a balanced set-up and I've seen others doing the same thing when buying rods/reels.
Yeah, it doesn't matter that much if all you do is leave your rods on the rests for days on end, but hand hold a rod for a while or do a lot of casting, it does start to matter.
Hardly waffle. That's exactly how I check for a balanced set-up and I've seen others doing the same thing when buying rods/reels.
Yeah, it doesn't matter that much if all you do is leave your rods on the rests for days on end, but hand hold a rod for a while or do a lot of casting, it does start to matter.
None of the leverage in an overhead cast references the reel seat as a fulcrum, so the horizontal balance at that point means very little, if anything when casting. Means even less when sat on rod rests, unless you plan to balance the rod on one stick!
More likely that was an arbitrary test by a man who owned a tackle shop and wanted people to buy new reels with their new rods. Or he wasn't talking about carp fishing, but a type of fishing where you actually hold the rod for longer than a minute at a time.
More likely that was an arbitrary test by a man who owned a tackle shop and wanted people to buy new reels with their new rods. Or he wasn't talking about carp fishing, but a type of fishing where you actually hold the rod for longer than a minute at a time.
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Another -
Wychwood extricator. Perfect size. Wide arbour spool.
Another -
Wychwood extricator. Perfect size. Wide arbour spool.
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I agree 100 percent. Makes absolutely no difference on a carp fishing setup whatsoever. Long trotting on a pin, or flicking delicate flies around then it matters, but on carp gear? Nope.
I agree 100 percent. Makes absolutely no difference on a carp fishing setup whatsoever. Long trotting on a pin, or flicking delicate flies around then it matters, but on carp gear? Nope.
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I've got lure and fly rods I prefer tip heavy as after a cast they naturally fall into the right position to retrieve how I want. My carp rods have a really light tip and bigger reels so that after a cast the tip recovers faster and closer to the optimum point of release. My float rods I prefer balanced or ever so slightly tip heavy.
I think being balanced is a happy medium if you don't know what it is you need
I've got lure and fly rods I prefer tip heavy as after a cast they naturally fall into the right position to retrieve how I want. My carp rods have a really light tip and bigger reels so that after a cast the tip recovers faster and closer to the optimum point of release. My float rods I prefer balanced or ever so slightly tip heavy.
I think being balanced is a happy medium if you don't know what it is you need
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Yeah, if your carp rods spend all day on the rests I agree... but, try floater fishing for several hours with an unbalanced outfit and you'll soon realise where the issue is. I still prefer a balanced set-up, so much nicer to use and after all, you wouldn't put 4000 size bait runner on a 13ft carp rod or a big baitrunner on a 10ft carp rod... but it makes no difference on carp rod
BTW, Jack Simpson was a bit more than a man who owned a tackle shop - Simpsons of Turnford or KM rods ring a bell? I knew Jack quite well, even fished with him a few times. If he was demonstrating how to balance a rod and reel to a customer, he wouldn't be doing it to sell reels. He knew what he was doing, the man was a legend
Yeah, if your carp rods spend all day on the rests I agree... but, try floater fishing for several hours with an unbalanced outfit and you'll soon realise where the issue is. I still prefer a balanced set-up, so much nicer to use and after all, you wouldn't put 4000 size bait runner on a 13ft carp rod or a big baitrunner on a 10ft carp rod... but it makes no difference on carp rod
BTW, Jack Simpson was a bit more than a man who owned a tackle shop - Simpsons of Turnford or KM rods ring a bell? I knew Jack quite well, even fished with him a few times. If he was demonstrating how to balance a rod and reel to a customer, he wouldn't be doing it to sell reels. He knew what he was doing, the man was a legend
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So if someone has an opinion that differs from yours, you try to belittle it.
If you don't understand something or don't agree, just say so mate; I respect your opinion Tom, so would hope it works both ways. Thank you.
As others have said, it is quite a common way of determining rod balance and what's a 'standard carp set-up' anyway?
I currently fish with four different set-ups and I use different reels on each, then I have floater and stalking rods. You wouldn't put the same reel on every rod would you? If the answer to that is yes, then I am clearly wasting energy even replying.
Tight lines mate. Harry.
So if someone has an opinion that differs from yours, you try to belittle it.
If you don't understand something or don't agree, just say so mate; I respect your opinion Tom, so would hope it works both ways. Thank you.
As others have said, it is quite a common way of determining rod balance and what's a 'standard carp set-up' anyway?
I currently fish with four different set-ups and I use different reels on each, then I have floater and stalking rods. You wouldn't put the same reel on every rod would you? If the answer to that is yes, then I am clearly wasting energy even replying.
Tight lines mate. Harry.
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I meant no offence, each to their own.
I meant no offence, each to their own.
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