Hi, I've just got a set of 10ft rods, my Daiwa sportsmatics are way too big/heavy for them , so what would you suggest, around the mid price range please, thanks.
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I like the ESP Onyx compact reels on my 10fters.
I like the ESP Onyx compact reels on my 10fters.
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SS2600 or Shimano XTD/XTC 5500 (depending on budget)
SS2600 or Shimano XTD/XTC 5500 (depending on budget)
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Daiwa emcast 25a, third of the price of castizms.
Daiwa emcast 25a, third of the price of castizms.
I personally think the mini pit 5500 size reels are too big on 10ft or less rods
5500 mini pit are ideal for 9/10 ft rods, 5500 XTD is 500 gram with Ice ,CT orTeflon washers and your set.
Daiwa castizms would be my choice
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I've got these on my bank creepers, amazing reels for the money.
I've got these on my bank creepers, amazing reels for the money.
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Definitely agree and would go further.
I much prefer a 4000 series reel on my 10 fts. Even smaller if I use one for floater fishing.
My 10 ft rods weigh 200 g and feel right with 220g or 350 g reels. Out of interest I did try bigger, heavier reels on them and it spoilt their precise feel.
Each to their own though.
Definitely agree and would go further.
I much prefer a 4000 series reel on my 10 fts. Even smaller if I use one for floater fishing.
My 10 ft rods weigh 200 g and feel right with 220g or 350 g reels. Out of interest I did try bigger, heavier reels on them and it spoilt their precise feel.
Each to their own though.
Gs4000 reels are brilliant once the drags been sorted.
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Daiwa castizms would be my choice
I would agree if budget was no object, but the way the original post reads to me, the poster doesn't want to spend that sort of money.
Daiwa castizms would be my choice
I would agree if budget was no object, but the way the original post reads to me, the poster doesn't want to spend that sort of money.
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Your right, although theres been some great suggestions I am on a budget, my 2 x 10 ft 3.25lbtc & 1 x 3.5lbtc rods are the Tfgear GXI Stealths, which I only bought because they were £95 brand new including postage , they are usually £55 each so a bargain and I have to admit that Im very impressed with there build and quality, although I havent used them yet.
Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll keep my eye out for some secondhand reels of the ones mentioned. I prefer a baitrunner function, but not essential
Your right, although theres been some great suggestions I am on a budget, my 2 x 10 ft 3.25lbtc & 1 x 3.5lbtc rods are the Tfgear GXI Stealths, which I only bought because they were £95 brand new including postage , they are usually £55 each so a bargain and I have to admit that Im very impressed with there build and quality, although I havent used them yet.
Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll keep my eye out for some secondhand reels of the ones mentioned. I prefer a baitrunner function, but not essential
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He said mid price range which the castizms fall into.
He said mid price range which the castizms fall into.
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Not really
Not really
wow ... since when did a £250+ reel been classed as mid price range? 
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Top end £500 plus so mid range around £250 budget £150 or less. Thats how i see it anyway. I paid £230 for my castizms so fit in the mid range category.
Top end £500 plus so mid range around £250 budget £150 or less. Thats how i see it anyway. I paid £230 for my castizms so fit in the mid range category.
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Think most would say sub £100 budget, 100-200tops mid range
Think most would say sub £100 budget, 100-200tops mid range
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Hi, at first I did say mid range, but I didnt expect that to be around the £250 mark, Im way out of touch with new buy prices,. Sorry for any confusion guys
I'll amend mid range to budget, which seems to be more in my affordability range, like I said before Ill have to buy secondhand, theres usually a lot of tackle sold after everyones got there new gear for crimbo, Im hoping anyway.
Hi, at first I did say mid range, but I didnt expect that to be around the £250 mark, Im way out of touch with new buy prices,. Sorry for any confusion guys
I'll amend mid range to budget, which seems to be more in my affordability range, like I said before Ill have to buy secondhand, theres usually a lot of tackle sold after everyones got there new gear for crimbo, Im hoping anyway.
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It looks like im a bit out of touch with my prices as well 😀
It looks like im a bit out of touch with my prices as well 😀
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On my 10ft vaders I'm using XTD 5500 with upgraded washers
On my 10ft vaders I'm using XTD 5500 with upgraded washers
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Think most would say sub £100 budget, 100-200tops mid range
thats how ive always seen it
Think most would say sub £100 budget, 100-200tops mid range
thats how ive always seen it
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I would say a castizim is definitely a high end reel.
0-100 budget,
100-200 mid range
200-350 high end
350-550 luxury
I've got Ultegras ci4 5500 xtc's on my 10ft's and I think they're too big. Will be changing to GS 4000's when I can.
That's just because I have multiple sets of rods though. I use the 10ft's for small waters and close in stuff so don't have a need to cast distances which my other rods cover. If I was to just have the short rods I'd keep the bigger reels on them to get the extra few yards when needed.
I would say a castizim is definitely a high end reel.
0-100 budget,
100-200 mid range
200-350 high end
350-550 luxury
I've got Ultegras ci4 5500 xtc's on my 10ft's and I think they're too big. Will be changing to GS 4000's when I can.
That's just because I have multiple sets of rods though. I use the 10ft's for small waters and close in stuff so don't have a need to cast distances which my other rods cover. If I was to just have the short rods I'd keep the bigger reels on them to get the extra few yards when needed.
Cast'zim is not mid range and outdated with Daiwa 20 Whisker 25QD (awsome reel)
5500 XTD (pay attention to maintenance) very good choice with washer upgrade, if you want a smaller reel: Daiwa Daiwa GS LTD 4000
5500 XTD (pay attention to maintenance) very good choice with washer upgrade, if you want a smaller reel: Daiwa Daiwa GS LTD 4000
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Okuma 6000 inc mini pits Great on 10ft rods fantastic reel for the money
Okuma 6000 inc mini pits Great on 10ft rods fantastic reel for the money
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Its hardly outdated, the whisker 20 is the exact same reel with a horrible cheap looking matt paint job and a folding handle. Imo of course the original looks much better and will be the next sort after reel now its not innpriduction a bit like the iso now is.
Its hardly outdated, the whisker 20 is the exact same reel with a horrible cheap looking matt paint job and a folding handle. Imo of course the original looks much better and will be the next sort after reel now its not innpriduction a bit like the iso now is.
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Awesome? Not in shops here last time I looked so definitely to early to declare them as that. Said before I had four castizms when they came out and bought two emcast 25a's when they came out and preferred them so sold the castizms for what I paid for them and bought two more emcast 25a's. Personal taste but think they look better, prefer the slower drag and in use they perform as good. Just because something costs more it isn't always better, usually yes but not always.
Awesome? Not in shops here last time I looked so definitely to early to declare them as that. Said before I had four castizms when they came out and bought two emcast 25a's when they came out and preferred them so sold the castizms for what I paid for them and bought two more emcast 25a's. Personal taste but think they look better, prefer the slower drag and in use they perform as good. Just because something costs more it isn't always better, usually yes but not always.
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Angeling direct +10 in stock
Also had the Emcast 25A this year, not a bad reel for its price
Angeling direct +10 in stock
Also had the Emcast 25A this year, not a bad reel for its price
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Not in UK they don't have them yet.
Not in UK they don't have them yet.
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No the whisker 25's you said awesome. Those ultegra are not as good as the emcast 25a's.
No the whisker 25's you said awesome. Those ultegra are not as good as the emcast 25a's.
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Ah whisker 25's (in stock in Belgium carp shop, Very stable reel with a top drag), but it does not matter in this topic (not mid range price level)
Although this year I fished with the Emcast 25A and was satisfied with it i find the XTD is a level higher, I have both lying next to each other. and the XTD stays, with new washers and a small maintenance every 2 fishing sessions XTD is a very nice reel.
Ah whisker 25's (in stock in Belgium carp shop, Very stable reel with a top drag), but it does not matter in this topic (not mid range price level)
Although this year I fished with the Emcast 25A and was satisfied with it i find the XTD is a level higher, I have both lying next to each other. and the XTD stays, with new washers and a small maintenance every 2 fishing sessions XTD is a very nice reel.
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Second this, Had mine for 6 months now and have fished with them everyother day. Great reels for an amazing price
Second this, Had mine for 6 months now and have fished with them everyother day. Great reels for an amazing price
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I've also used the xtd which is twice the price of the emcast 25a here and not is good, notorious for spool clicker failure and feel cheap.
I've also used the xtd which is twice the price of the emcast 25a here and not is good, notorious for spool clicker failure and feel cheap.
Shimano lost the plot with the XTB's XTC's and XTD's, all average at best and over rated .... Inc6000 is half the price and a nicer reel, especially on a 10ft rod ...... If original poster prefers baitrunner then if you can find a set of Shimano XTR RA Super Baitrunners, these are a gem
I bought 3 emcast 25a to fit on my 10 foot rods a year and a half ago and love them
Before that I had ss2600 and they have been relegated to my pike rods
There is no comparison the 25a are streets ahead, smoother, better clutch and cheaper
Before that I had ss2600 and they have been relegated to my pike rods
There is no comparison the 25a are streets ahead, smoother, better clutch and cheaper
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Daiwa Emblem BR25A's are better
Daiwa Emblem BR25A's are better
In my opinion they are much better (emcast 25a) Everyone has a different preference
I've many sets of reels and probably the ones I like least are the ss2600, they are old, clutches not great and wobbly
I'm just going to hang onto them for another few years then will sell them on eBay to someone wanting to be “trendy” and willing to pay way over the odds, who probably wasn't even born when they came out
I've many sets of reels and probably the ones I like least are the ss2600, they are old, clutches not great and wobbly
I'm just going to hang onto them for another few years then will sell them on eBay to someone wanting to be “trendy” and willing to pay way over the odds, who probably wasn't even born when they came out
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Agree, XTB LCs not up to par with the older XTA LCs. The feel of quality is not there as you expect from Shimano.
Agree, XTB LCs not up to par with the older XTA LCs. The feel of quality is not there as you expect from Shimano.
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People do talk some crap on this forum... Castizm QD is an awesome reel - very light, superb clutch, mag sealed, smooth and very well made. - unlike the latest Shimano mini big pits. Had mine since they came out and still look as good as the day I got them. They are awesome on 10ft rods - balancing my 10ft hi s 2 3/4 perfectly. Hardly dated, What nonsense. Mid range? Yes, they are price wise, but more top end build wise. Oh and top end carp reels are circa £500, so half that and the mid point is £250, roughly what you'd pay for one. I appreciate some people can't add up, so hope the math isn't too difficult for them, bless
People do talk some crap on this forum... Castizm QD is an awesome reel - very light, superb clutch, mag sealed, smooth and very well made. - unlike the latest Shimano mini big pits. Had mine since they came out and still look as good as the day I got them. They are awesome on 10ft rods - balancing my 10ft hi s 2 3/4 perfectly. Hardly dated, What nonsense. Mid range? Yes, they are price wise, but more top end build wise. Oh and top end carp reels are circa £500, so half that and the mid point is £250, roughly what you'd pay for one. I appreciate some people can't add up, so hope the math isn't too difficult for them, bless
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Oh and top end carp reels are circa £500, so half that and the mid point is £250, roughly what you'd pay for one. I appreciate some people can't add up, so hope the math isn't too difficult for them, bless
To take that logic ... a top end mainstream car (Rolls Royce for example) costs circa £250,000 and therefore makes a mid range car £125,000
. A mid range product is not necessarily a mid point in price from one extreme to other . I hope this isnt too difficult to understand
Oh and top end carp reels are circa £500, so half that and the mid point is £250, roughly what you'd pay for one. I appreciate some people can't add up, so hope the math isn't too difficult for them, bless
To take that logic ... a top end mainstream car (Rolls Royce for example) costs circa £250,000 and therefore makes a mid range car £125,000
. A mid range product is not necessarily a mid point in price from one extreme to other . I hope this isnt too difficult to understand
Got to love a pointless car analogy, solves every good forum argument.
Ss2600's. They wobble and the line clip is rubbish but they look great and we all know that's what counts
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exactly my point
exactly my point
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Thanks to everyone who took the time to post suggestions, I am leaning towards the Penn affinty II 7000 or the Daiwa Emcast 25A's, I may even have a lead to purchase a used set of the Daiwas
Thanks to everyone who took the time to post suggestions, I am leaning towards the Penn affinty II 7000 or the Daiwa Emcast 25A's, I may even have a lead to purchase a used set of the Daiwas
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I would never even consider putting my Penn's on my 10ft rods. They would not only look ridiculous but also be a completely imbalanced setup.
I would never even consider putting my Penn's on my 10ft rods. They would not only look ridiculous but also be a completely imbalanced setup.
23.9 oz for the Penn 7000 doing it under 10ft is like running a marraton with combat boots ...
Dont understand the problems with the Shimano Xtd with a small adjustment a very good reel and Shimano has a much better clutch then those Emcasts/Scw emblems.
Dont understand the problems with the Shimano Xtd with a small adjustment a very good reel and Shimano has a much better clutch then those Emcasts/Scw emblems.
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I didn't know the Penn's were that heavy, I'll discount them, thank you.
I didn't know the Penn's were that heavy, I'll discount them, thank you.
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It's not like you stand and hold them all day.... Tbh the shimano, penn etc are all too big for 10 footers imo, something like ss2600 would be far better suited
It's not like you stand and hold them all day.... Tbh the shimano, penn etc are all too big for 10 footers imo, something like ss2600 would be far better suited
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If you are that clueless about the size of these reels, your best bet would be go and see some of them. Standard size big pits on 10ft rods look ridiculous and unbalanced in my opinion - The Shimano 5500 is also too big (and poor quality), Fox FX9's are also too big imo ..... but you may think different about some of these and only by getting them in your hand can you make a decision - BUT ... try and get a set of Okuma INC6000 in your hand as one of the options would be my strongest advice (perfect size imo)
If you are that clueless about the size of these reels, your best bet would be go and see some of them. Standard size big pits on 10ft rods look ridiculous and unbalanced in my opinion - The Shimano 5500 is also too big (and poor quality), Fox FX9's are also too big imo ..... but you may think different about some of these and only by getting them in your hand can you make a decision - BUT ... try and get a set of Okuma INC6000 in your hand as one of the options would be my strongest advice (perfect size imo)
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Got the Inc6000's on my 10ft CR Pace compacts. Perfect match imho.
Got the Inc6000's on my 10ft CR Pace compacts. Perfect match imho.
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I don't care what they look like, but I take your point, thanks.
I don't care what they look like, but I take your point, thanks.
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If you do a search on the net for your reel of choice just add “weight” which normally gives you that info.
I'm also considering new reels for my 10ft's as I'm currently using reels that are around 20 years old so have been following this with interest, however not seen anything suggested yet that would tempt me though, purely because I don't like heavy reels on light rods.
Personally I would take a reduction in longevity (as long as the price reflected that) if it meant a lighter, more balanced setup.
I don't believe the new shimano reels have a very good reputation on here, but in my opinion something the size and weight of a ST FB either in 2500 or 4000 ( 310g or 355g ) would be better suited to 10 ft rods.
If you do a search on the net for your reel of choice just add “weight” which normally gives you that info.
I'm also considering new reels for my 10ft's as I'm currently using reels that are around 20 years old so have been following this with interest, however not seen anything suggested yet that would tempt me though, purely because I don't like heavy reels on light rods.
Personally I would take a reduction in longevity (as long as the price reflected that) if it meant a lighter, more balanced setup.
I don't believe the new shimano reels have a very good reputation on here, but in my opinion something the size and weight of a ST FB either in 2500 or 4000 ( 310g or 355g ) would be better suited to 10 ft rods.
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I've just dug out my old Shimano super aero 10000 XTE baitrunners, they fit a treat, excellent balance, sorted.
I've just dug out my old Shimano super aero 10000 XTE baitrunners, they fit a treat, excellent balance, sorted.
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I used to have a pair of the black with purple detailing, double handled 8000gte's. They were beautiful and would suit my current 8ft stalkers a treat, unluckily for me I sold them when I stopped for a while about 10yrs ago 😢
I used to have a pair of the black with purple detailing, double handled 8000gte's. They were beautiful and would suit my current 8ft stalkers a treat, unluckily for me I sold them when I stopped for a while about 10yrs ago 😢
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It's a pair of shimano 8000 re double handle bait runners for me and find they suit my darent valley 10 foots fine
It's a pair of shimano 8000 re double handle bait runners for me and find they suit my darent valley 10 foots fine
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Definitely the 8000gte, just googled it and there are reviews about 2004. The purple detail was on the angled stem on the bodywork between the reel seat and reel body itself. re was a different model.
Definitely the 8000gte, just googled it and there are reviews about 2004. The purple detail was on the angled stem on the bodywork between the reel seat and reel body itself. re was a different model.
I had a set of GTE baitrunners and also regretted selling them. Have since bought a set of 3 x 5000GTE-C's baitrunners and a set of 3 x 8000 XTR RA Super Baitrunners .... They have been on and off rods for years ..... never sell the good baitrunners is my advice ,,,, leave them in the loft and one day you will want them
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I was thinking of pairing 10ft rods with Shimano 6000 St's. Would these balance ok? Or do I need something smaller?
I was thinking of pairing 10ft rods with Shimano 6000 St's. Would these balance ok? Or do I need something smaller?
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If you were asking goose ( post 30) then he appears to have flown. In his absence here are my thoughts.
It depends on a lot of things
You might need / choose a reel for it's line capacity, drag performance, casting ability or even looks
You might have a heavy 10 ft rod, they do vary even for the same tc so reel weight may not be so critical.
You might not need an inch perfect cast especially at close range that a light rod and reel can excel at.
Your idea of balance and preferences will probably be different to mine, especially as I seem to be in the minority, certainly judging from some of the suggestions, so try before you buy would obviously be the best solution.
That said I have a few different 10 ft rods from 2.5 lb tc upwards and tried 6 different types of reel on them, from a small light match reel right through to 6 series Baitrunners.
The above criteria permitting I always prefer a lighter reel if it's suitable.
My go to reels for most of my fishing on 10 ft rods are 4 series Baitrunners or fast drag 3s which are similar size.
If you were asking goose ( post 30) then he appears to have flown. In his absence here are my thoughts.
It depends on a lot of things
You might need / choose a reel for it's line capacity, drag performance, casting ability or even looks
You might have a heavy 10 ft rod, they do vary even for the same tc so reel weight may not be so critical.
You might not need an inch perfect cast especially at close range that a light rod and reel can excel at.
Your idea of balance and preferences will probably be different to mine, especially as I seem to be in the minority, certainly judging from some of the suggestions, so try before you buy would obviously be the best solution.
That said I have a few different 10 ft rods from 2.5 lb tc upwards and tried 6 different types of reel on them, from a small light match reel right through to 6 series Baitrunners.
The above criteria permitting I always prefer a lighter reel if it's suitable.
My go to reels for most of my fishing on 10 ft rods are 4 series Baitrunners or fast drag 3s which are similar size.
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Have used a few different reels on 10 foot rods. Foolishly sold my cast'izm however then sold my 10 foot rods and got some 9 foot scopes which have a coupl of daiwa theory so 4000a reels on them which are perfect.
Have used a few different reels on 10 foot rods. Foolishly sold my cast'izm however then sold my 10 foot rods and got some 9 foot scopes which have a coupl of daiwa theory so 4000a reels on them which are perfect.
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I use the very same reels on my 10ft rods, but have added some sexy single handles
I use the very same reels on my 10ft rods, but have added some sexy single handles
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just got 3 of these and impressed with them so far. Shouldnt have got rid of my castizms in the summer, but for the price, the Okumas look great.
Brum Angling Direct had stack in this week.
just got 3 of these and impressed with them so far. Shouldnt have got rid of my castizms in the summer, but for the price, the Okumas look great.
Brum Angling Direct had stack in this week.
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Brilliant boat rods the scopes are.... Running Medium LCs with them moat of the time or if I really need distance I go to the big LCs but rarely use em... The medium LCs a bit heavy for the scopes. Most important is they do exactly what I need them to do.... Friend of mine uses a cheap setup in the likes of the Shimano Sienna 4000 reels on his scopes.... Have to say one thing rate the reel very high it will handle big fish with ease.. Bit smaller spool than the 4000a but sounds like you found a nice balance there bud 👍
Brilliant boat rods the scopes are.... Running Medium LCs with them moat of the time or if I really need distance I go to the big LCs but rarely use em... The medium LCs a bit heavy for the scopes. Most important is they do exactly what I need them to do.... Friend of mine uses a cheap setup in the likes of the Shimano Sienna 4000 reels on his scopes.... Have to say one thing rate the reel very high it will handle big fish with ease.. Bit smaller spool than the 4000a but sounds like you found a nice balance there bud 👍
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