Specifically the Defiant ones - can they bend like normal metal pegs if you force them into harder ground or will they stay straight because titanium is so much stronger?
Appreciate the high price but I'd buy a few just to not end up with a load of wonky pegs!
Cheers
Appreciate the high price but I'd buy a few just to not end up with a load of wonky pegs!
Cheers
In reply to Post #1
Drop Keith a message, he'll always give you a honest answer
His user name is Defiant.one
Drop Keith a message, he'll always give you a honest answer
His user name is Defiant.one
I will bud.
But, I'd still like to hear from a few who have used them week in week out rather than do my right bollock on some only to bend them first time out 😬
But, I'd still like to hear from a few who have used them week in week out rather than do my right bollock on some only to bend them first time out 😬
In reply to Post #3
I'd like to know the answer.
Not wishing to pre-empt Kieth but titanium is as hard as steel but as light as aluminium. It's used where lightness is required but the strength of steel is also a factor. It is also not prone to rusting.
So bottom line is if you are heavy handed ( or put pegs in with your foot) and have bent steel pegs before then you will also bend titanium.
It is strong and light but not foolproof
So bottom line is if you are heavy handed ( or put pegs in with your foot) and have bent steel pegs before then you will also bend titanium.
It is strong and light but not foolproof
In reply to Post #6
I'm strong and not light or foolproof 💪
😂😂
I'm strong and not light or foolproof 💪
😂😂
I have them and they are a work of art, light and absolutely indestructible
In reply to Post #6
Titanium is 60% lighter than steel, but 60% heavier than Aluminium. It's the strength to weight ratio that makes it preferable for some uses. If lightness is the main criteria then Aluminium would be preferable.
Titanium is 60% lighter than steel, but 60% heavier than Aluminium. It's the strength to weight ratio that makes it preferable for some uses. If lightness is the main criteria then Aluminium would be preferable.
In reply to Post #9
No.1 objective for me is having pegs that don't bend and if I'm going to buy 10-15 of these I'd like.to make sure they won't 🙂.
My brolly only has two pegging points so weight won't be an issue and if I'm taking a bivvy it'll be on the barrow so again not about weight.
The alternative is just having a stash of normal bivvy pegs and swap them out as they bend
No.1 objective for me is having pegs that don't bend and if I'm going to buy 10-15 of these I'd like.to make sure they won't 🙂.
My brolly only has two pegging points so weight won't be an issue and if I'm taking a bivvy it'll be on the barrow so again not about weight.
The alternative is just having a stash of normal bivvy pegs and swap them out as they bend
Not titanium but these pegs are last a lifetime....................I have stamped them into rock hard ground many times. These pegs don't bend. Only problem is when you lose one.
https://www.top-notchtackle.co.uk/product-page/5inch-stumpy-stainless-steel-pegs-x4
https://www.top-notchtackle.co.uk/product-page/5inch-stumpy-stainless-steel-pegs-x4
In reply to Post #11
These look good. People keep mentioning losing them - I never seem to lose the bloody bent ones! I also notice that it's new pegs that are more prone to bending. I have some old Trakker ones that whilst rusted a little, are bombproof.
For me, I am looking at this as I am storm poles: am fed up with inferior supplied accessories, I want one quality set of storm poles and pegs that I can use regardless of the shelter I opt to use for a trip. Keeps things a little more straightforward and with limited time / setting up + packing up I the dark - it matters.
These look good. People keep mentioning losing them - I never seem to lose the bloody bent ones! I also notice that it's new pegs that are more prone to bending. I have some old Trakker ones that whilst rusted a little, are bombproof.
For me, I am looking at this as I am storm poles: am fed up with inferior supplied accessories, I want one quality set of storm poles and pegs that I can use regardless of the shelter I opt to use for a trip. Keeps things a little more straightforward and with limited time / setting up + packing up I the dark - it matters.
In reply to Post #1
I have a set and managed to bend one.
I have a set and managed to bend one.
In reply to Post #11
I've had a set of them since they first came out (probably 12 years at least) never bent one yet.
I've had a set of them since they first came out (probably 12 years at least) never bent one yet.
In reply to Post #13
Thanks everyone, tbf I thought titanium would be stronger than steel. So as they aren't, them top notch ones could be just the ticket.
Thanks everyone, tbf I thought titanium would be stronger than steel. So as they aren't, them top notch ones could be just the ticket.
In reply to Post #15
Not titanium no but the the top notch tackle pegs really are top notch. The banks on the pits I fish are really rock hard no matter where I set up there's always a boulder or dinosaur bone stone lurking underfoot. I used to drill pegs in with a small electric drill but tossed that aside for top notch tackle pegs and a 2lb lump hammer. Giving them a whack to fire them in to the ground doesn't spook the fish from what I have found. The pegs go in solid smash trough pretty much anything and hold real good. I must have put one through a tree root the other week as it took me ages to wind out. I have only ever had one taken on a very very slight and I mean slight bend in about 6 years you would do well to spot it if I chucked you my peg bag.
Not titanium no but the the top notch tackle pegs really are top notch. The banks on the pits I fish are really rock hard no matter where I set up there's always a boulder or dinosaur bone stone lurking underfoot. I used to drill pegs in with a small electric drill but tossed that aside for top notch tackle pegs and a 2lb lump hammer. Giving them a whack to fire them in to the ground doesn't spook the fish from what I have found. The pegs go in solid smash trough pretty much anything and hold real good. I must have put one through a tree root the other week as it took me ages to wind out. I have only ever had one taken on a very very slight and I mean slight bend in about 6 years you would do well to spot it if I chucked you my peg bag.
In reply to Post #16
Go on then I'll go... 100% it spooks the fish, maybe not for as long as you're there but for me vibration and a lump hammer would be my No1 fish scarier.
I have a pond with near tame, never caught carp, you can walk up, and they will come to feed, you can chat loudly and still about, a sudden or proLonged vibration and they disappear.
You do you as the kids say but mallets are my pet hate on the banks, hammers even worse, for a day angler they are horrific- I'd rather hard house played at full volume than that
Go on then I'll go... 100% it spooks the fish, maybe not for as long as you're there but for me vibration and a lump hammer would be my No1 fish scarier.
I have a pond with near tame, never caught carp, you can walk up, and they will come to feed, you can chat loudly and still about, a sudden or proLonged vibration and they disappear.
You do you as the kids say but mallets are my pet hate on the banks, hammers even worse, for a day angler they are horrific- I'd rather hard house played at full volume than that
Not only that, it's bloody anti-social and crap etiquette...
Study to be quiet, a long forgotten phrase for many.
Study to be quiet, a long forgotten phrase for many.
In reply to Post #17
I tend to agree.
I consider myself to be very tolerant to those with questionable habits on the bank. Poor etiquette can after all be addressed through education. But mallets are different.... imo it can ruin it for everyone within 100 yards+. I personally would rather not put the brolly up than have to use a hammer to get my pegs in.
I tend to agree.
I consider myself to be very tolerant to those with questionable habits on the bank. Poor etiquette can after all be addressed through education. But mallets are different.... imo it can ruin it for everyone within 100 yards+. I personally would rather not put the brolly up than have to use a hammer to get my pegs in.
In reply to Post #19
Same here - have you NEVER been able to get some in though? I have never gone shelterless because i couldn't get a peg in and I'd never in a million years use a mallet so for me it's a combination of etiquette and lack of physical prowess.
Same here - have you NEVER been able to get some in though? I have never gone shelterless because i couldn't get a peg in and I'd never in a million years use a mallet so for me it's a combination of etiquette and lack of physical prowess.
In reply to Post #20
Nope.... always managed to get them in with a bit of tough love.
Nope.... always managed to get them in with a bit of tough love.
In reply to Post #18
Absolutely. Terrible etiquette
Absolutely. Terrible etiquette
The ones that you drill in are the answer IMO.
Ok you have to carry a cordless drill which could be a bit heavier than a mallet but worth it if it doesn't make you unpopular with your neighbours.
Ok you have to carry a cordless drill which could be a bit heavier than a mallet but worth it if it doesn't make you unpopular with your neighbours.
In reply to Post #23
Six-hundred and eighty grams!
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Six-hundred and eighty grams!
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Cor, I'm not gonna use a drill or hammer anything into the ground.
As others have mentioned, I've never struggled to get at least one peg in which is sufficient to hold a pram hood or brolly in place as long as it isn't blowing a hooey
As others have mentioned, I've never struggled to get at least one peg in which is sufficient to hold a pram hood or brolly in place as long as it isn't blowing a hooey
In reply to Post #23
Tbf I'd be just as wound up if someone showed up next to me with power tools
Tbf I'd be just as wound up if someone showed up next to me with power tools
In reply to Post #26
Not sure how I'd act. Some one belting pegs in with a hammer is bad enough!
Not sure how I'd act. Some one belting pegs in with a hammer is bad enough!
I can honestly say I have never had the need to bang a peg into the ground.
Just move it or orientate it differently and a peg will go in somewhere with a twist.
Just move it or orientate it differently and a peg will go in somewhere with a twist.
In reply to Post #26
Depends, don't mind it on drill but hammer setting
Depends, don't mind it on drill but hammer setting
In reply to Post #29
I suppose if the ground was really hard you could use an impact driver
That's a joke by the way.
As for people saying they never have trouble getting pegs in, believe me there are places that are so hard that it is almost possible, even for drilled in pegs
I suppose if the ground was really hard you could use an impact driver
That's a joke by the way.
As for people saying they never have trouble getting pegs in, believe me there are places that are so hard that it is almost possible, even for drilled in pegs
In reply to Post #30
It's the swims that fool you into thinking it's a lovely 'natural' swim then 1 inch in you hit concrete or heavily compressed stone and the peg bends as a result 😬.
It's the swims that fool you into thinking it's a lovely 'natural' swim then 1 inch in you hit concrete or heavily compressed stone and the peg bends as a result 😬.
In reply to Post #30
Real Etiquette is not setting up next to anyone. Getting pegs in some times however is a basic requirement. I would love to rock up to mud / grass lined banks and just step pegs in. You lot really seem to get your knickers in a twist some times. Obviously if you can get a peg in by hand / foot that's what you do, but sometimes a touch more force is required in certain situations. If I can get a peg in manually that's obviously the way but sometimes certain situations and certain swims require Timmy to get involved. As it happens due to the nature of the substrate on the waters I fish I would say that 90% carry a mallet/ hammer to utilise if and when required.
You seem to have missed my point. My point was that the top notch tackle pegs are solid and can withstand serious abuse if needed.
Real Etiquette is not setting up next to anyone. Getting pegs in some times however is a basic requirement. I would love to rock up to mud / grass lined banks and just step pegs in. You lot really seem to get your knickers in a twist some times. Obviously if you can get a peg in by hand / foot that's what you do, but sometimes a touch more force is required in certain situations. If I can get a peg in manually that's obviously the way but sometimes certain situations and certain swims require Timmy to get involved. As it happens due to the nature of the substrate on the waters I fish I would say that 90% carry a mallet/ hammer to utilise if and when required.
You seem to have missed my point. My point was that the top notch tackle pegs are solid and can withstand serious abuse if needed.
In reply to Post #32
If any of that was aimed at me - I 100% haven't missed the point and it's proven by your back tracking. You e gone from ‘it doesn't scare fish' to only used when necessary.
Like I say each to their own - what winds me up is selfishness and am lucky that I avoid waters where 90% of people have mallets .session anglers can on occasions have a selfish way about them - you may be there when the fish return from club hammering but you've ruined a large area of the lake for others.
Knickers in a twist - probably but only in the same way I do with any displays of selfishness.
If any of that was aimed at me - I 100% haven't missed the point and it's proven by your back tracking. You e gone from ‘it doesn't scare fish' to only used when necessary.
Like I say each to their own - what winds me up is selfishness and am lucky that I avoid waters where 90% of people have mallets .session anglers can on occasions have a selfish way about them - you may be there when the fish return from club hammering but you've ruined a large area of the lake for others.
Knickers in a twist - probably but only in the same way I do with any displays of selfishness.
In reply to Post #28
This, I've been carp fishing for 40 odd years and have never malleted pegs in.
This, I've been carp fishing for 40 odd years and have never malleted pegs in.
In reply to Post #34
Just to be clear I'm anti mallet and don't carry one but I can assure you if your swim has a compacted crushed substrate with a covering of tree bark you could be tempted.
Same with bank sticks, by all means use them if the ground allows but there are people who refuse to use a pod because they think only noddies use them.
I find pushing bank sticks and pegs into nice firm ground very satisfying, I get a semi lob on
Just to be clear I'm anti mallet and don't carry one but I can assure you if your swim has a compacted crushed substrate with a covering of tree bark you could be tempted.
Same with bank sticks, by all means use them if the ground allows but there are people who refuse to use a pod because they think only noddies use them.
I find pushing bank sticks and pegs into nice firm ground very satisfying, I get a semi lob on
In reply to Post #24
Wow, that took me back to Christmas 1981 when I first got interested in making things.
I've not seen a manual drill in years, was nice to see one again and have a little cerebral wander down memory lane 😍
Back to the subject in hand, I never take a mallet. Getting pegs in can be a P.I.T.A and often the centre of my palm will be black/blue from spending 15min trying to wiggle/twist and force a peg between type 1 aggregate.
I recently acquired a JAG bankstick auger 'thing' which I keep forgetting to put in the van so I always have it with me. That might be an option.
Found it, it's called a digging stick. Bit too much 'girth' for a peg, but you could always use it for the first 2/3 inches as often it's only the surface that's rocky
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I have in the past taken an SDS drill and 8mm masonry drill bit to slowly/quietly tease a 'pilot hole' through more challenging substrate to make sticking the peg in easier. I didn't use it on hammer/SDS setting, just preferred that drill for drilling as it's got a bigger better motor than my everyday DeWalt drills
Wow, that took me back to Christmas 1981 when I first got interested in making things.
I've not seen a manual drill in years, was nice to see one again and have a little cerebral wander down memory lane 😍
Back to the subject in hand, I never take a mallet. Getting pegs in can be a P.I.T.A and often the centre of my palm will be black/blue from spending 15min trying to wiggle/twist and force a peg between type 1 aggregate.
I recently acquired a JAG bankstick auger 'thing' which I keep forgetting to put in the van so I always have it with me. That might be an option.
Found it, it's called a digging stick. Bit too much 'girth' for a peg, but you could always use it for the first 2/3 inches as often it's only the surface that's rocky
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I have in the past taken an SDS drill and 8mm masonry drill bit to slowly/quietly tease a 'pilot hole' through more challenging substrate to make sticking the peg in easier. I didn't use it on hammer/SDS setting, just preferred that drill for drilling as it's got a bigger better motor than my everyday DeWalt drills
In reply to Post #36
Digging sticks are very good, think Defiant MPS came up with the idea.
They might be overkill for bivvy pegs.
Incidentally, I might be the only person to nearly break one of the MPS digging sticks.
I had the great idea to screw it into a tree so I could use it to bunk me up to the first branch, of which it did brilliantly, and held my weight But when I went to get it out, I think the heat from the friction it produced managed to nearly twist the bottom section out. Nearly being the operative word, as although it looks mangled, it stayed together; a true testament to the build quality.
ATB
Ash
Digging sticks are very good, think Defiant MPS came up with the idea.
They might be overkill for bivvy pegs.
Incidentally, I might be the only person to nearly break one of the MPS digging sticks.
I had the great idea to screw it into a tree so I could use it to bunk me up to the first branch, of which it did brilliantly, and held my weight But when I went to get it out, I think the heat from the friction it produced managed to nearly twist the bottom section out. Nearly being the operative word, as although it looks mangled, it stayed together; a true testament to the build quality.
ATB
Ash
In reply to Post #36
They might be expensive but the Jag Xcavator bivvy pegs are worth every penny.
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The Xcavator Banksticks are also absolutely brilliant.
Setting up on rock hard ground now takes minutes instead of hours. 😀
They might be expensive but the Jag Xcavator bivvy pegs are worth every penny.
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The Xcavator Banksticks are also absolutely brilliant.
Setting up on rock hard ground now takes minutes instead of hours. 😀
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