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Pink himalayan rock salt ...... (85 posts / 15,891 views)
Tadpole2 Tadpole2
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Post #1 31 Mar 2022 22:23
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Just bought two 25 kgs bags of some 4 million year old pink Himalayan rock salt and the 'use by' date on the packaging expired some three weeks ago..... Grrrrrrrr

Do you think its still ok to use.....??


Regards Tad.
Apps316 Apps316
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Post #2 31 Mar 2022 22:51
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only 4 million years old? Must be a new version mate.
Goose Goose
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Post #3 31 Mar 2022 23:13
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Did you buy it from a builder? My guess is that it will still be fine for keeping the ice off your foot paths.
2ndChance 2ndChance
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Post #4 31 Mar 2022 23:25
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Make sure it´s not crystalized "dinosaur on the rag piss" Some good hormones in there apparently
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #5 1 Apr 2022 05:42
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Hope the bait guys don't turn up,this thread could turn salty
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #6 1 Apr 2022 06:29
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How can salt go off?
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #7 1 Apr 2022 06:45
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10 point to huffle puff
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #8 1 Apr 2022 07:57
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might be OK if it's best before
kells kells
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Post #9 1 Apr 2022 14:30
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Bit early with that one, weren't you Tim..
Tadpole2 Tadpole2
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Post #10 1 Apr 2022 16:02
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Story of my life Kells....:(




Regards Tad.
karmh karmh
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Post #11 1 Apr 2022 16:03
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My girlfriend wanted to throw out some 2 million year aged salt because eit had expired...
Dualshock Dualshock
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Post #12 23 May 2022 20:13
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Can anybody point me in the right direction where to get some good quality from?
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #13 23 May 2022 20:23
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Horse lick
OatcakeFred OatcakeFred
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Post #14 23 May 2022 20:29
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Got some off Amazon last year, £11 for 10Kg delivered.
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #15 23 May 2022 21:02
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Where's M
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #16 23 May 2022 21:57
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expert on everything
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #17 24 May 2022 00:37
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How much are you after?
Boycie Boycie
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Post #18 24 May 2022 05:28
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As if by magic...
Canalcarper71 Canalcarper71
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Post #20 25 May 2022 08:25
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The way I read it was you offered to help him find a place for him to buy the stuff
Beyonce
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Post #21 25 May 2022 08:30
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I've always got mine from eBay. 25kg sacks available.
Boycie Boycie
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Post #22 25 May 2022 13:19
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Take a day off... Snapper said "where's M" and two posts later you appeared. My reply was to him, nothing at all to do with your comment.

Or perhaps your remarks were meant to be directed at Joss who jokingly said you're an expert on everything? No? Thought not.
Mitchawl Mitchawl
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Post #23 25 May 2022 13:21
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human grade, yeah? Not the stuff they use on paths?
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #25 25 May 2022 13:51
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think you're being a bit OTT here. someone else made a comment about you, and you turned up so he commented about that. Can't see why you are directing your upset at him and not the person that mentioned you in the first place??
Boycie Boycie
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Post #26 25 May 2022 14:03
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Seriously, get a grip. I thought it was amusing that he asked where you were and two posts later you appeared.

Quite why you're getting on your high horse with me and not the original comment (or Joss for his p*ss taking comment), I don't know.
ip100 ip100
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Post #28 25 May 2022 14:31
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Nick, if you stopped coming across as a know it all on the bait thread, telling people they are lying about a certain bait company you seem to have a passion for, and then playing the victim, you wouldn't get half the comments you do.
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #29 25 May 2022 14:35
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Sorry for causing a problem
Beyonce
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Post #31 25 May 2022 15:09
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Yes, human grade, not the stuff they use on paths. I don't think even Westminster council would splash out on Himalayan salt to grit the roads.
ip100 ip100
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Post #32 25 May 2022 15:13
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That's just it though nick, you advocate and say they would do this that and the other ,and it's simply not true. Honestly they have a terrible reputation around here , they are known as "bad baits". You are honestly saying that you ,being down on the south coast ,have a better handle of them than the local lads. They may well be a big firm who roll for others. But their own range is awful, and there are so many horror stories regards them. Many have said so and you are literally the only advocate of theirs on here, but yet everyone is wrong and what you say is gospel? Come on nick....


The stories about them have been on here long before you came back too so it's nothing to do with you nick. And surely if they wanted to troll you they'd slate your own company,not your mates?

Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #33 25 May 2022 15:48
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I dropped half a shelflife ASBO on my garage floor, the mice ignored it and ate poison.... says a lot
Boycie Boycie
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Post #34 25 May 2022 16:06
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Their bait obviously attracts the more discerning mouse with an understanding of nutrition.
Boycie Boycie
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Post #35 25 May 2022 16:11
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I've made comments about rubber in mad baits and their frozen bait not going mouldy even after months of being left out, long long before you made a reappearance on here. Not everything bait related revolves around you.

To give them their dues, I've caught some decent fish on their popups in the past and they're very buoyant.

Anyway, this thread is about salt so try to keep it on track
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #36 25 May 2022 20:39
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you have and ive ignored...your far to complicated for my head
Mr-Thomas Mr-Thomas
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Post #37 25 May 2022 21:42
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I think people are sick and tired of you

Some people just spoil threads, you spoil a whole section.

Rock salt in the wrong hands can kill a swim and ruin good going spots.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #44 26 May 2022 09:32
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Mozzi

May i be completely honest with you?

You think your helping, but every single post you place, there is always a little hidden stab at either products, companies, people, or peoples opinions. You're quite good at it, but it comes across so obvious and it gets a tad wearing on every post you make. Now, i'm unsure as to your intention or motive, or even why?

Yes, we've messaged via Instagram and indeed on here, but your messages, 9 times out of 10, I have no idea what your actually trying to say, add to that, it's not the odd message I receive, it's one after the other, at all times of the evening or even during the night. When i don't respond, you send me more strange messages asking me what's wrong?

There is nothing wrong, i do however have 2 business's to run, a family to spend time with, dogs to walk, horses to feed, sheep to feed, land to look after, then at approx 9pm in the evening answer business e-mails, compile reports, animal welfare and slaughter licenses to process, and if i'm lucky, i might just be able to sit down to watch a bit of tv before bed time.

Nothing personal, i'm just a very busy chap

End of conversation
carpstar40 carpstar40
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Post #45 26 May 2022 10:55
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Anyway back to the OP I was told about the prowess of rock salt fifteen or more years ago when the lad who was using it told me he was having blinding results by attaching a mesh bag to his rig no bigger than a pingpong ball size when casting out he was possibly onto something as he was catching consistently and generally more than most on the lake.
I was holding my own but not catching as many or as often so went with his advice and it definitely improved my catch rate on that lake that season it's something I still employ now not all the time but probably for 50% of the year but a one kilo bag of rock salt is way more than I use in a year as that makes a lot of little mesh bags.

I couldn't ever envisage wanting to source rock salt in 25kg sacks as that employs using it in far to vast a quantity for my line of thinking and if its going in in that quantity I think more than an investigative trigger in a small mesh bag it could become overbearing and turn an area sour a bit like soaping a swim but that's just my thoughts on it, Epsom salt I also found effective.

Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #46 26 May 2022 11:11
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Providing a consistent spot of salt for the fish is a good tactic, fish need salt to balance their body and osmoregulate, in freshwater it is hard to come by, hence they rub in clay for the mineral content. If you have a spot they can visit regularly to find salt then they'll defo use it. Probably wont fish on it but nearby. It also has the benefit on very weedy lakes of creating a dead spot out in the lake, which may be well worth fishing on come autumn time if you stop topping up with salt.

I am talking about putting a 500g out twice a week or even smaller quantities more regularly and not chucking in 25kg on a spot and building a salt mountain. You have to put it in the right place obviously but if you can get fish to visit it daily then you know you've got a chance being nearby.

OP have a look at Keith Singleton Horticulture, good price on 25kg sacks with delivery. use the search bar to find it.
Scotweiler Scotweiler
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Post #50 26 May 2022 15:47
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I'm not sure your 'condition' gives you the right to be a know it all ***** though
frothey frothey
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Post #56 26 May 2022 16:38
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Totally agree, but I bet you are aware of the situations you put them in before they get there, if you get my drift.

Anyway, will 50kg rock salt out of a road bin do?
mark1009
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Post #57 26 May 2022 16:50
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It'll probably clear your drive of snow. I wouldn't use it for anything else.
Salt in small quantities may be attractive in the right circumstances.
What if you are fishing a lake with brackish water because it is near the sea or an estuary?
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #58 26 May 2022 17:11
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Time for a tidy up
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #59 26 May 2022 17:14
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Probably be pointless as they'll have all the salt they need in the water to fulfill their requirements.
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #60 26 May 2022 18:17
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An interesting thing is taste, whilst maybe I being nutritional requirement, eating food with salt in it can enhance flavour, and flavour enhancers certainly have their place be it in addition to a recipe ot naturally within some ingredients.

If you add attractors such as belechan to your baits you're inherently adding salt for example.

Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #61 26 May 2022 19:36
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Plenty of people use a sweet n salty spod mix. The salt neat salt crystals. I've played with dissolving it in when soaking particles such as maize, tigers and maples alongside a load of sugar. Can't say it made much difference but I didn't toy too much with levels though to refine it to anything conclusive. Good old TH uses a sweet n salty maize.

As a taste enhancer on a brackish pit probably useful but would the constant salt presence nulify it? pure crystals as a point of attraction largely useless. The brackish pits should throw up more big fish than they do. Science points to the best salinity level for carp growth is 2ppt and not fresh water.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #62 26 May 2022 19:39
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Tell you what, i had a contract with swizzels Matlow a few years ago, they make drum sticks, refreshers etc, i managed to get hold of 5 kg test sample of sherbet crystals, if memory serves me right, its was raspberry flavour...ive never seen fish get so excited over something
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #63 26 May 2022 20:29
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You sure the fizzing wasn't just the sherbet
Seen sherbet added to dry Pva bag mixes so it's “active”
scozza
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Post #64 26 May 2022 20:30
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If you add attractors such as belechan to your baits you're inherently adding salt for example

One of the main reasons I think the original L030 was so good

Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #65 26 May 2022 20:37
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i did think that at first, but there after, the 2 x 30's within 25 mins got me thinking
Canalcarper71 Canalcarper71
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Post #66 26 May 2022 20:57
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That is really interesting
mark1009
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Post #67 26 May 2022 21:01
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Not sure but I'd guess the citric acid reacting with the sodium bicarbonate ended up with a slightly acidic area around where it was introduced. Probably could do the same with an acidic bait or flavour.
Beyonce
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Post #68 26 May 2022 21:30
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Has anybody ever tried small bags of neat citric acid? I think I've seen a photo, possibly Ken T, with hookbaits dipped in citric acid crystals. Frank Warwick has also spoken about soaking imitation baits in a citric acid solution.
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #69 26 May 2022 23:29
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Yes it's something I've done a lot of experimenting with and personally I'd reccomend finding the coarse crystals if you can.

Coarse crystals in among boilie crumb sticks around 30 g per kilo of crumb in bags
Mr-Thomas Mr-Thomas
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Post #70 27 May 2022 00:12
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That's nothing new, you can't re invent the wheel no matter what the mags churn.

One thing everyone on here needs to remember, carp were born and carp grew bigger year in year out despite what the masses where told to believe before social media.

Some lead and some follow, I know where I've been over the last 30 years, you can have aspirations or drive a for lift😉
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #71 27 May 2022 00:18
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He asked a question and I answered it what's your problem now?

Very few people have fishing with near crystals of citric acid, most use salt and it's a viable alternative.

I dunno what you've been doing the last 30 years but a lot of it was spent as a forum member called Alby lol
Goose Goose
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Post #72 27 May 2022 00:54
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He told you what he's been doing, he's been aspiring to drive a fork lift.
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #73 27 May 2022 01:33
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I drove a fork lift for a week, loved it
Beyonce
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Post #74 27 May 2022 07:04
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I'd love to drive a fork lift too. At least that is something we can all agree on

When you say coarse crystals Mozzi, I have the stuff from BAF, it's sort of granulated sugar sized crystals?
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #75 27 May 2022 13:17
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add to that the fast sugars we know carp like.

who knows, all i know, it worked very well
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #76 27 May 2022 13:33
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That disperses very very quickly, tge thicker crystals tend to dissolve slower for around 15 minutes. You could grow them yourself but that's a pain lol
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #77 27 May 2022 13:49
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these sherbet crystals were pre crushing, so averagely the size of a thumb nail
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #78 28 May 2022 02:05
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most sherbet does contain citric acid, a product I rate VERY highly, might need to flutter some eyelashes at matlocks lol
MARKerz
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Post #79 28 May 2022 06:46
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Don't need much of the salt, sea salt is fine as well, I only use 15-30g per 5kg particle, it's enough.
digger360
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Post #80 29 May 2022 10:26
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Sorry to be go off topic slightly ....but what is soo mythical about Pink Himalayan salt ?
its mostly mined in Pakistan @ Khewra salt mine which is not in the Himalayas and used in that part of the world to make salt lamps ! and only seems to be the West that gives it these mythical properties in cooking etc etc
its probably just the same as the salt mined in Cheshire ? only a different coulour
so it seems to have a very big carbon footprint getting it to the west .....so my question is "why is it soo much better "
than ordinary locally produced sea salt ?
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #81 29 May 2022 12:11
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The mineral content in it. Himalayan salt is the purest form of salt and carries the most trace minerals, roughly 84. Which is why it's pink/orange in colouration. You mention salt lamps, these are meant to release the negative ions in to the air. Whether they do or not is up for debate.

Sea salt is formed from seawater being collected and evaporated, so any pollutants in the water may be left over in the salt. The more polluted the sea water the higher the likelihood this occurs and you're eating pollutants as well.

Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #82 30 May 2022 20:39
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anyone followed what the top koi breeders do re minerals
digger360
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Post #83 4 Jun 2022 09:15
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Koi breeders generally use salt as a treatment for parasites etc etc and not as a food source
the salt they use is non-iodized pure salt NOT table salt as this could potentially kill them !!! ...i cant find any japanese koi breeders that specify Pink Himalayan salt as there is no scientific evidence that it is better than pure sea salt
other than it cost 20 to 30 times more
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #84 4 Jun 2022 10:25
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A mate puts them in a salt bath , very good for them
Parasites and things
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #85 4 Jun 2022 11:56
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For salt baths it's probably not better. But anglers don't use salt as a health treatment do they? I'm sure if it someone gave a koi breeder a free supply of each to use they'd pick the Himalayan solely because it's the purest form of salt on the earth (that's been discovered anyway). Like you said, put cost in to it and that changes things. But at £20 for a 25kg sack of it, it's not exactly that expensive, cheaper than hemp or trout pellet.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #86 6 Jun 2022 10:05
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sorry, i was referring to the clay they use. Ive not used it in my pond as yet
Smurf Smurf
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Post #87 6 Jun 2022 10:32
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>because it's the purest form of salt on the earth

Is it? Its 95-99% sodium chloride the rest is various minerals etc. Refined table salt is 97%-99% sodium chloride so you could argue it is better purity on average than Himalayan salt
Smurf Smurf
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Post #88 6 Jun 2022 10:36
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I use clay in my pond once or twice a month. It helps clump suspended particles together and then the filter has a better chance of removing them.

I don't have Koi just ghosts, mirror and grass carp so no idea if it really makes any other difference but it does help clean the water up so will keep on using it

Koi are just to delicate for my liking but the 'normal' carp are much more hardy hence they can survive in muddy old farm ponds.
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #89 6 Jun 2022 12:27
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purest as in cleanest and most untouched.
Refined table salt has anti-caking agents and whiteners in it. how is that pure?

Refining table salt means it has undergone a process to be at those levels, Himalayan hasnt, it is naturally at those levels. Im sure if you refined it, it would be at a higher level wouldnt it.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #90 6 Jun 2022 12:32
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yeah read that re particles clumping together.

Ive got a huge Profidrum drum and bio filter, keeps it crystal

(Off topic i apologise)
Smurf Smurf
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Post #91 6 Jun 2022 14:05
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Most 'untouched' yes, purest....depends on what you mean 'pure'. Nether are 100% Sodium chloride.

Yes table salt is refined, so are half the ingredients in any decent boilie. Doesn't make it rubbish per se.

The other few % are what possibly makes a difference. The minerals could be what attracts the carp. I am not saying that Himalayan salt is rubbish but I take everything I read about any salt and carp fishing with a pinch of salt (sorry ) as so little scientific fact to back up the arguments for or against it.
Smurf Smurf
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Post #92 6 Jun 2022 14:06
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My filter space is limited and don't have the water/waste return for a drum but then my pond is only just over 5000l so not huge
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #93 6 Jun 2022 15:49
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That is the definition of pure I meant, I clarified that. As refined table salt, whilst maybe being higher % sodium chloride it also contains anti caking agents & whiteners which I would rather do without in my own personal consumption as well as when being used for fishing. I would rather have natural minerals in trace elements than artificial chemicals.

As I said, Himalayan has no artificial substances in it, it is purer in this sense than any other salt in the world. This is well known within pretty much any industry where salt is used and also scientifically.
spodrod spodrod
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Post #94 7 Jun 2022 16:27
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the guy in tackle box yesterday told me one table spoon per 5kg of spod mix..
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #95 7 Jun 2022 16:46
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Don't sound much,
spodrod spodrod
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Post #96 7 Jun 2022 17:01
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What's everyone else use?
MARKerz
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Post #97 7 Jun 2022 19:13
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I use 1 to 2 tablespoon per 5kg, it's enough.
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #98 7 Jun 2022 19:48
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Depends on your goal. For taste 1 or 2 tablespoons per 5kg, if you're using the salt as an mineral source then loads more.

You don't need a lot to make it salty as it's in large crystals
Orc_Slayer Orc_Slayer
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Post #99 12 Jun 2022 12:59
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Can anyone recommend how much Himalayan Rock Salt should be added per kg of particles please. Would 50g per dry kg weight be enough or too much. Also, will the salt help make the mix PVA friendly?
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #100 12 Jun 2022 17:38
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Depends how much water you have in the mix really, the more water a particle is covered in the more you dilute the salt
Orc_Slayer Orc_Slayer
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Post #101 12 Jun 2022 19:23
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Not too much water. I drained off and bottled up the juice from cooking the hemp as didn't really want to waste it. My maize I cooked about 1.5kg dry weight with a cup of himalayan rock salt in it. Once I mix everything up hemp, chicken peas, maples, crushed tigers and maize) I was contemplating adding some rock salt and leaving it to soak in for a few days before I add some hot chorizo compound and feedstim xp.
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #102 13 Jun 2022 00:08
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I'd stick to salt personally
MARKerz
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Post #103 13 Jun 2022 08:17
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About 5g per kilo, you are already introducing particles with their own inherent qualities.
If you want to make some pva friendly then it may be better to drain off most of the liquid and cover with a pva friendly liquid. Would this be any better than just using as they are?
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