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Thinking anglers (90 posts / 9,041 views)
Andydave
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Post #1 10 Mar 2021 21:02
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For those who are interested the new series of thinking anglers is on YouTube, managed to get through most, very very well produced, probably the best I've seen for some time.
AaronB1992 AaronB1992
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Post #2 10 Mar 2021 22:51
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I've managed to watch Gaz Fareham so far and really enjoyed, but tbh I usually do enjoy his films. Will definitely get through the others over the next week or so
inzenity inzenity
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Post #3 11 Mar 2021 00:16
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Just watched Nick Helleur. Can relate to the canal carping, but mine are usually bare and large compared to the stunning little canals he was fishing. Very enjoyable is Nick, both in the UK and europe. And very well made video, so yeah, watch it!
Boris_Carp Boris_Carp
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Post #4 11 Mar 2021 08:32
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Watched his Thames one really enjoyed it
bigappleslice bigappleslice
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Post #5 11 Mar 2021 08:41
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i personally thing TA are one of the best going at the moment.

quality products and quality production on their videos.
no a fan of nick but enjoyed his piece, gaz on that mere was epic.
Craigwooly Craigwooly
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Post #6 11 Mar 2021 10:03
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great series, and very relatable.

Better than some of the others where they try and throw products down your neck
cyprymike cyprymike
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Post #7 11 Mar 2021 10:57
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I disagree I find them bland and boring with the same stuff regurgitated in all the videos.
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #8 11 Mar 2021 12:18
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Very good work from TA. Easy watch and not to much plugging
BigDave139
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Post #10 12 Mar 2021 12:52
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They are ace - Si Bater and Nick Helleur my fave
AaronB1992 AaronB1992
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Post #11 12 Mar 2021 12:53
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Yeah just been watching Helleurs as I'm toying with doing some canal sessions this year, really enjoyed it
Canalcarper71 Canalcarper71
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Post #12 12 Mar 2021 20:02
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Watched it last night,mainly because I fish the canals anyway
Ynnek
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Post #13 13 Mar 2021 06:32
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Adds by TA or adds by youtube
For the latter you can use brave browser. It cancells all adds that are interrupting youtube videos
AideyKaye
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Post #14 13 Mar 2021 07:33
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They are superb. One thing I took from it is that I would sit on a thousand pork swords for a Birch Grove ticket.
Richpp1989 Richpp1989
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Post #15 13 Mar 2021 09:49
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I enjoyed all of them apart from Nick Helleur it just doesn't interest me and I'm not keen on him tbh, the rest are some of the best I've seen In a long time I really enjoyed them
Canalcarper71 Canalcarper71
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Post #16 13 Mar 2021 10:00
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It's good that we have different interests in our fishing,I don't drive and canal is local to me and I got fed up of fishing lakes years ago and a 14 mile of stretch of canal between locks is certainly interesting,never know what it can hold I've seen and had them up to 32lb and there's possibly bigger in there and also a surprise pike Or 2 as well.
Slackrack Slackrack
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Post #17 13 Mar 2021 11:47
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The amount of time you've spent on your knees praying with the members there hasn't got you even a guest session yet, maybe you've not greased the right wheels yet.😂
Busted
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Post #18 13 Mar 2021 14:11
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I quite enjoyed most of them. Im not a nick helleur fan but it was quite relatable to me and that now empty stretch is where i caught my first 20, 25 years ago

I didnt like the scott lloyd one at all. Small water fishing but hes out in a boat putting H blocks out. I get that he's got the option so people will say 'why not then' but it strikes me as utter nonsense and isnt relevant to what anyones elses fishing actually is
AaronB1992 AaronB1992
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Post #19 13 Mar 2021 15:00
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I'd disagree to an extent, and think its a case of damned if you do damned if you don't etc. Not relevant to me, however I know of a good few lakes where boats are used and accessible, I suppose they are trying to cover all bases
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #20 13 Mar 2021 16:29
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Been fishing small lakes all my life and it's definitely not a true representation of small lake fishing. If boats were offered on a lake that hasn't got any weed then it probably wouldn't be for me. Certainly no need for h blocks etc
midlandman midlandman
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Post #21 13 Mar 2021 16:49
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Totally agree, hardly subtle was it!
Busted
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Post #22 13 Mar 2021 17:11
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Ive got a club ticket to a 4 acre brick pit and id laugh my head off if i saw someone putting H Blocks out
Andydave
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Post #23 13 Mar 2021 18:41
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Agreed, but it was a true representation of the actual lake he was fishing.
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #24 13 Mar 2021 18:47
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Just because there's a boat doesn't mean u need to use it and the same with h blocks. That lake was easily fish able without the use of a boat so I'd say its more about how he wanted to fish it
yonny yonny
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Post #25 13 Mar 2021 19:04
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I thought it was odd using a boat on a little pond too. Takes away your ability to get the rod back out without a lot of faff. Get it done from the bank imo
SPINBOWLER SPINBOWLER
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Post #26 13 Mar 2021 19:50
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The bloke showed himself up, piss poor angler/angling.
jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #27 13 Mar 2021 20:11
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You lot all make me laugh lol I'm sure he really cares what with his list of big carp he has caught that all you are jealous off lol
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #28 13 Mar 2021 20:16
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Just because he's caught some very impressive carp doesn't mean I'll crawl up his arse like most do
SPINBOWLER SPINBOWLER
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Post #29 13 Mar 2021 20:28
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In reply to Post #27
I've had a lot of big carp mate, never needed a battleship on a Noddy pond to do it though.
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #30 13 Mar 2021 20:32
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In reply to Post #29
Wouldn't call it a noddy pond tbh. Looked a nice water. Being small doesn't make it easy. Quite the opposite imho
SPINBOWLER SPINBOWLER
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Post #31 13 Mar 2021 20:45
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May be a bit harsh, Yes a lovely little water, I've fished similar but the fact is that you are never very far from the fish no matter which swim you're in.

It's this that makes the blokes approach even more embarrassing, two rods no boats keeps it tricky at times. If you need half a day chugging around in a battleship on a water like that then there's something lacking in your ability.

Some might say it's a bit disrespectful to the venue, todays carper's probably wouldn't.

Sum's up where carping is at these day's if you ask me.
cyprymike cyprymike
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Post #32 13 Mar 2021 21:21
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Couldn't agree more .
JamieH
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Post #33 13 Mar 2021 21:31
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Perhaps he didn't even want to use a boat. Perhaps this decision was made at a project meeting with TA HQ that they want him to use a boat in his segment of the volume.

I don't think this 20 minute (or however long) video should be used as a reflection of the lads angling ability!
SPINBOWLER SPINBOWLER
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Post #34 13 Mar 2021 21:48
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Tell us why they might want him to use a boat.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #35 13 Mar 2021 21:58
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So a bunch of moaning,miserable individuals had got something to moan about .
yonny yonny
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Post #36 13 Mar 2021 21:59
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Ffs it's not that big a deal is it. I thought it was odd using a boat but not the end of the world
JamieH
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Post #37 13 Mar 2021 22:00
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In reply to Post #34
Who knows. To appease the masses?
All I do know is. It's becoming increasingly more carpy now days to use a boat at any opportunity you can. Ridiculous I know! It's all about view counts in this modern era, right?
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #38 13 Mar 2021 22:24
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Not the end of the world its worse than that,its the end of carping as the good old days have gone forever
SPINBOWLER SPINBOWLER
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Post #39 13 Mar 2021 22:32
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The good old days still exist inside the gates on my water.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #40 13 Mar 2021 22:51
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Got any boats
SPINBOWLER SPINBOWLER
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Post #41 13 Mar 2021 23:03
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Only to be used in the interests of fish safety, life jackets to be worn at all times.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #42 13 Mar 2021 23:09
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Very sensible rules
Andydave
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Post #43 14 Mar 2021 09:16
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Exactly, it's no real biggie in the grand scheme of things, I bet there have been plenty of people take to the punt on Redmire
AaronB1992 AaronB1992
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Post #44 14 Mar 2021 09:45
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The problem is, I agree with you to an extent, I can't see the need for a boat on that venue.

However, he has booked the venue exclusively and feels its give him an advantage. Its not upset anybody else and he has had a chance to look at the make up of the venue.

As long as no ones elses fishing is effected does it really matter?
SPINBOWLER SPINBOWLER
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Post #45 14 Mar 2021 15:31
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No they dont, it's against the rules except to release tethered fish. I've fished it twice, the bailiff reminds you of this fact when you first meet.
jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #46 14 Mar 2021 16:46
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In reply to Post #31
Small waters are often very very tricky
mark1009
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Post #47 14 Mar 2021 18:56
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Bit off topic but I've just watched a vid showing a drained down lake in France. If you've never had the chance to see this in the flesh. Have a look. It's very thought provoking if you not seen it before. Matthew Collins channel on you tube. Well worth a watch.
Andydave
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Post #48 14 Mar 2021 20:52
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Pretty sure I saw Yates and James fishing off the punt once 😃
duggs
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Post #49 14 Mar 2021 20:55
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There were some Simon Scott articles in carp ology about a drained out lake, I bought the mag to read it but haven't got round to it yet

@Andy I'm not sure a gudgeon match would breach the rules
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #50 14 Mar 2021 21:36
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There is a video on YouTube with Simon Scott,very interesting seeing the lake drained and the features
duggs
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Post #51 14 Mar 2021 22:14
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I'll have a look for that
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #52 14 Mar 2021 22:33
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A Lake With Its Trousers Down-Simon Scott
Slackrack Slackrack
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Post #53 14 Mar 2021 23:36
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Another victory as ever for the corporate media machine in which lashings of embellishment laden phantasy carping porn sets the tongues wagging serving to justify it's content again as evident by rising sales. On screen it's promoting a dream whilst real experience paints a more sobering reality as evident with second-hand sales of tackle surplus to requirements upon a taste of the real world.
MARKerz
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Post #54 15 Mar 2021 07:37
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Enjoyed the Simon Bater one, you could see his enthusiasm and enjoyment from just fishing, eyes sparkling.

Also the Ben Hamilton one as it pretty much mirrors the way I fish, in the edge with mainly particles but days only for me.
yonny yonny
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Post #55 15 Mar 2021 07:37
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In reply to Post #53
It's just marketing lol. There is not a commercial industry in existence that does not use it.
chrispfox chrispfox
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Post #56 15 Mar 2021 13:18
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Next you'll be telling us that Terry Hearn is subliminally forcing us to buy ESP kettles... I'm guessing you've not watched any of the Thinking Anglers films?

I really enjoyed Si Bater and Ben Hamilton. I like the stories and just escaping into some lovely lakes and carp tales.

The marketing is fine. I know what I'm getting when I watch these films. Doesn't send me immediately to the internet to purchase bait/hooks/line.
framey framey
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Post #57 15 Mar 2021 13:31
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Would be nice to see a proper video on the use of boats with boat safety and tips
This one had some but not enough
I would imagine the same rules would apply whether it's a big pit or a small lake.
AaronB1992 AaronB1992
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Post #58 15 Mar 2021 14:12
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I mean, surely you aren't complaining at the fact some completely free content uploaded by a tackle company, aims to try and sell some of their tackle?
phil090781
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Post #59 15 Mar 2021 15:23
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I've watched all 8 of these and I just handed over my credit card details to Thinking Anglers and told them to send me one of everything they make. I've thrown out any gear that isn't TA and I'm booked in for a TA tattoo.
yonny yonny
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Post #60 15 Mar 2021 15:44
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Belch Belch
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Post #61 15 Mar 2021 17:19
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. . .I used to like Gaz Fareham but actually found him quite dull on this . . .the production is great and the scenery fantastic but his ridiculous faux bhuddist earring hole, immaculate corn-flake free captain haddock beard and hi pitched drone got on my nerves . . nearly as much as his overtly precision stroking / handling of everything . . .

I'm actually preferring Greg Ellis on the amusement factor and general real world passion at the moment . . .
mark1009
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Post #62 15 Mar 2021 18:05
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Snap. So glad it's not just me.
SPINBOWLER SPINBOWLER
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Post #63 15 Mar 2021 22:34
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He's cultivating an image, I bet you have to go through his agent if you want to speak to him.
Gashman Gashman
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Post #64 15 Mar 2021 22:44
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I've actually just brought all new thinking anglers gear.... was before the videos though.... honest
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
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Post #65 15 Mar 2021 23:02
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A really annoying feature of all of this lot is not weighing fish, then holding them up for the camera and saying 'oh, must be 23, 24 pounds'.
Just weigh it then, you muppet. Or don't mention weight.
Bloody irritating modern trend.

Either that, or it really weighs a lot less than you say.

Belch, I do like your assessment of Mr Fareham!
Andydave
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Post #66 16 Mar 2021 07:28
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I'm pretty sure john Wilson done it all the time
carpstar40 carpstar40
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Post #67 16 Mar 2021 08:15
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I enjoyed the one on Birch the most having fished the place quite a few times, it captures the lake nicely bit of drizzle flat calm water fishing the gaps in the pads waiting for the morning or daytime runs all my favourite memories of the place, I haven't been there for probably 7 to 8 years now lit the fire a little bit.
Enjoyed all of them really it's free content on fishing what's not to like passed a few evenings in a time where my fishing is severely restricted to short day sessions.
Belch Belch
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Post #68 16 Mar 2021 10:50
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True - but John Wilson had a better beard and wore paedo waders without a care in the world . . .different class angler as well . . .
Andydave
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Post #70 16 Mar 2021 11:08
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Very true, but it's not exactly a new thing, we all do it, and I very much doubt there is an angler out there that has weighed every single fish they've caught.
I'm happy guesstimating the majority of my fish, as it only really matters to me
yonny yonny
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Post #71 16 Mar 2021 11:11
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I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would find that annoying tbf.
Belch Belch
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Post #72 16 Mar 2021 11:37
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. . .cos it infers anything under their current PB / a non target fish is a sh*tter and does not therefore deserve weighing. . .which annoys some people . . .lol

As stated bad beards and poor image consultants annoy me a lot more . . . . .
yonny yonny
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Post #73 16 Mar 2021 11:51
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It does not infer that at all imo.
Belch Belch
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Post #74 16 Mar 2021 12:09
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. . .just sayin . .(not that I particularly care whether they're weighed or not) . . .!

You can be sure that if said angler had caught the lakes biggie or indeed a target fish he would have weighed, not guessed it . . .'yah (quick beard stroke) - looks to be about 50-55lb - lets just slip it back' . . .methinks not
VLT VLT
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Post #75 16 Mar 2021 12:13
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That's such a weird thing to get annoyed about

I'm the same, I would only weigh something that I think is approaching 20lb and above, not because anything below has any less merit, but because I don't really care if a fish is 12lb, 14lb or 16lb, but to me, a bigger fish is just of some significance; both to myself but to the bailiffs as well I suppose.
yonny yonny
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Post #76 16 Mar 2021 12:16
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Same here. When weight becomes relevant is completely up to the individual. Why anyone would get annoyed about whether some other guy does or does not weigh a fish is beyond me.
scozza
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Post #77 16 Mar 2021 12:46
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I think i know where your coming from?

Is it when a "star" catches a fish that's a stunner and makes a comment that even though it is small, weight is irrelevant, which it is, its a stunning little fish!

Then every sheep shagger in the country comes out with, weight is irrelevant

Was to me as a youth, didn't have any scales

Also, when we have had repeats like we do, i guess weight does become irrelevant unless its a long time between captures and its grown?

Every small fish, yeah, weight is irrelevant, oh, hold on a minute, this one isnt

The word circus springs to mind

Not watched it BTW
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
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Post #78 16 Mar 2021 13:06
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It just bugs me Yonny, but only because I have witnessed a series of complete liars doing this in Ringwood over the years with a variety of fish species. It is more the fact that they are spending time videoing a fish and making a statement about what it might weigh. If you don't care what it weighs, don't mention it - that's my point. I don't weigh everything, especially if they are less than about 15lb or so.
Just a personal pet hate of mine, that's all.
Belch Belch
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Post #79 16 Mar 2021 15:56
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. . .don't involve me with NemWitches carp anorexia issues . . .I couldn't give a bernard what anyone's fish weighs - least of all beardy bhudda fareham . . .

As previous its the incessant perfectionist stroking and dainty fingering of everything that annoys me - you're not Nigella Lawson ffs!
scozza
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Post #80 16 Mar 2021 16:31
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its the incessant perfectionist stroking and dainty fingering of everything that annoys me

So eloquently put
andrew93
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Post #81 19 Mar 2021 17:46
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I'll add something else into the carp room 101 (not sure how relevant to the thread it is but definitely irritates me)...

The words “not usually one for the orientals” accompanying any picture of a koi. Usually photographed in high quality, both sides including water shots. Not one for orientals... or just trying to keep up with a trend? Be proud of captures that you're proud of... don't devalue a capture just to follow a trend.

See it a lot with recaptures also. “Unfortunately a recapture” - well why have you sacked it up and got a mate down to do you some pictures? People need to start being more overtly pleased with captures... after all the memories and a catch pic is all we're left with.
Slackrack Slackrack
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Post #82 19 Mar 2021 18:07
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Tha waint get back on bank anytime soon then will tha fella as throwin all that tackle out leaves thee short several major items crucial in catching unless handlining features heavily int next video, now there's a thing! But I take it u were joking huh?!! Lol anyroad.
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
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Post #83 19 Mar 2021 18:21
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Could you repeat that in a language that is actually spoken on this planet?
jack1welsh jack1welsh
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Post #84 19 Mar 2021 19:58
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Gashman Gashman
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Post #85 19 Mar 2021 20:03
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😂😂😂
scozza
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Post #86 19 Mar 2021 20:10
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Dunno wots up wi thi, plain n clear t me
Slackrack Slackrack
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Post #87 20 Mar 2021 12:34
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Well I've tried queens English in many posts but people complain at that so I thought try gods own universal dialect.....Yorkshire lol.
Belch Belch
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Post #88 20 Mar 2021 13:09
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Its a known fact that God had nothing to do with Yorkshire . . .why do all its inhabitants believe that? Most of it is vast, open, mossy and miserable and the carp are gudgeon sized . . .plus they all live in terraces . . .and order 'bits' from the chippy . . .
Slackrack Slackrack
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Post #89 20 Mar 2021 17:11
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I take it you've passed through at sometime then lol, nowt wrong wi carp ere like just they a bit fussy bout who they get pictured been fondled by tis all.
Halfcentury
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Post #90 20 Mar 2021 17:46
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How to be a tyke. "Hear all, see all, say nowt." " Eat all, drink all, pay nowt." A happy go lucky bunch.
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #91 21 Mar 2021 08:38
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If someone not weighing a fish annoys you. How about this. I know of a guy on one of my waters who doesn't even lift them out if they look under forty. Just unhooks them in the net and sends them on their way. Now that pickles my brain cos it's not even an easy lake. After weeks of blanks I'd at least want to see what I'd hooked.

I've watched a couple of these new TA videos so far. I've enjoyed both. The birch grove one shocked me at what a small round bowl it really is. After all the years of reading stories in carp world I expected something different. Pretty little water though and it looked mega at that time of year.

Won't be watching Nick the Pest. No interest.
midlandman midlandman
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Post #92 21 Mar 2021 08:56
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It's an odd one isn't it carp fishing. I used to be obsessed with getting my photos spot on and have albums going back many years, all put together with a great deal of love. The last ten years though I haven't bothered, just lost interest with that side of it and the weights too, I'm really not that bothered even with the big ones. That's not to say i have lost interested in carp fishing, far from it, but it's the hunt that I enjoy, perhaps more than the end result!
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