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Loose spigots (69 posts / 5,319 views)
TeeCee
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Post #1 11 Jan 2021 17:59
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One not my rods has a loose spigot, I have used candle wax before, though I'd like to use something that doesn't make things worse as the wax attracts dust and crud.

Looked for carbon spigot build up spray like Preston's does, unfortunately I can't find anywhere that sells the stuff. The only option I've got other than waiting eons for Vic Gibinson to sort it out is super glue.

Anyone got any ideas please?
Great-Blondini Great-Blondini
MODERATORMOD
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Post #2 11 Jan 2021 18:18
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In reply to Post #1
Are you able to trim the top section down a tiny amount before the whipping ?
TeeCee
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Post #3 11 Jan 2021 18:24
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Unfortunately not. Even if I were able to, I know I'd knacker it right up.
duggs
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Post #4 11 Jan 2021 18:47
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Are the two sections meeting in the middle or is there a gap between them?

Clobersauraus Clobersauraus
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Post #5 11 Jan 2021 18:50
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I managed to get some carbon spray from Bobco tackle last year...everywhere else seem to have sold out....at the time they wouldn't post out, so i had to collect from there shop....where about in England are you based....if local i could give you a can as I have 4 cans in my garage......
Ged
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Post #6 11 Jan 2021 18:51
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https://www.garbolinouk.co.uk/accessories/g-spray-carbon-joint-restorer
No idea if it works, I always use candle wax.
maplecream
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Post #7 11 Jan 2021 20:32
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Used candle wax on my old tench rods last spring, works a treat no drama.
Clobersauraus Clobersauraus
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Post #8 11 Jan 2021 20:41
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I think you may struggle...after doing a bit of a google, all the manufacturers whom made carbon spray seem to have stopped.

Garbilino G Spray
Preston Innovations
Maver
Maptek

As they were good sellers i dont know why they stopped making the spray, but there must be a good reason for all of them to discontinue the same / similar product...

When i was struggling i did look into thin shrink tube, but manages to get the spray from Bobco....as it was like rocking horse manure i purchase a few cans just in case.....wouldn't get spigot rods again and would always now purchase overfit
Lostagudun
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Post #9 11 Jan 2021 21:52
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Is that the result of thrashing the field to a froth yesterday 😂
TeeCee
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Post #10 11 Jan 2021 22:15
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In reply to Post #9
Might be 😞
bigappleslice bigappleslice
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Post #11 12 Jan 2021 07:16
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coat in super glue.
let dry
slowly sand back the glue with wet & dry paper

repeat until sorted.
The_Saint The_Saint
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Post #12 12 Jan 2021 10:56
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the super glue way is the way professional rod builders redo a spiggot, and my mate who rebuilds rods (Chris Palmer Rebuilds) uses this method with success.
TeeCee
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Post #14 12 Jan 2021 18:04
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That's what I've just done Saint. Just applied and sanded down superglue which looks like it's solved my problem.

Many thanks guys for your input. Hopefully this post might be helpful to others with loose fittings 👍
jeffire jeffire
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Post #15 12 Jan 2021 23:13
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In reply to Post #14
Super glue is,nt waterproof , so you will probably have to keep redoing it every so often .
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #16 13 Jan 2021 00:18
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In reply to Post #1
back in the day we just trimmed the top section but I thought these days rods were produced with a spigot wear gap ?
vossy1 vossy1
MODERATORMOD
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Post #17 13 Jan 2021 00:26
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In reply to Post #15
Yep, it'll crack and fragment over time, on the plus side it'll become brittle too so easily removable.
Jonnas
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Post #18 15 Jan 2021 08:17
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Ha! I mentioned using super glue on a similar thread some time ago only to get ripped to shreds by some waspy bloke who doesn't appear here any more!

As I said then, I've done it with Super Glue for years (Since my North Western SS5's!) and it works just fine.....
rodrest rodrest
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Post #19 15 Jan 2021 09:56
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If its on the spigot it shouldnt get wet 🤔
jeffire jeffire
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Post #20 15 Jan 2021 11:42
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It will get wet water finds its way in , it will do the job but will need redoing periodically , one of the many reasons i use harrison blanks , no dodgy spigots.
TeeCee
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Post #21 15 Jan 2021 13:19
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Eh? My rods are Treb Lites and they've got spigots.
jeffire jeffire
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Post #22 15 Jan 2021 17:21
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noj
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Social photographer... Post #23 15 Jan 2021 17:35
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Then your rods are not treb lights
TeeCee
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Post #24 15 Jan 2021 17:52
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Fool. Pipe down.

Considering they came from and sold to me by Johnson Ross (one of the owners, not some guy who works there) and confirmed by Terry Edmonds who looked at them on a casting lesson and said they were because of the reinforcing around the joints, I think I'll run with that. If they've changed from spigot to overfit, I don't know, either way, they're Treb Lites. Mkay?
noj
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Social photographer... Post #25 15 Jan 2021 18:06
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phil090781
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Post #26 15 Jan 2021 18:07
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Mate your attitude stinks. This isnt the first time I've seen you get spiky for no reason. I suggest if you can't have an adult conversation you try Facebook.
TeeCee
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Post #27 15 Jan 2021 18:32
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If you don't like my tone, just ignore my posts, it's not that hard is it? It's alright, I will sleep at night you know.
phil090781
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Post #28 15 Jan 2021 18:41
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You obviously need to go to the new attitude shop, but if you do, make sure you talk to the owner, not just some guy who works there
TeeCee
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Post #29 15 Jan 2021 18:46
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It was as if time stood still, a lone dog barked in the distance, and if you listened very, very closely, you could hear Phil's jimmies faintly rustling...
ocelot ocelot
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Post #30 15 Jan 2021 19:06
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That'll be you getting blown out of his arse
TeeCee
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Post #31 15 Jan 2021 19:09
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Oh, my sides
phil090781
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Post #32 15 Jan 2021 19:32
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You're a funny guy. Terry Edmunds said so.
capt_swearword
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Post #33 15 Jan 2021 20:46
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Like I said on a previous thread, you do talk some shyte.
bluebeat13
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Post #34 15 Jan 2021 21:44
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A simple photo of the joint will sort this out?
Carp2021
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Post #35 15 Jan 2021 21:58
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Where is the Joy of Fishing gone These Days. Too much Competition in carp fishing these days Hence The under 12's platform on Here
Richpp1989 Richpp1989
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Post #36 15 Jan 2021 22:54
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A lot of threads seem to go this way on this forum recently
Hudson Hudson
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Post #37 15 Jan 2021 23:00
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Too many c***s on here lol. I know of at least 4 that pop up regularly. And yes before anyone pipes up........I'm one of them 😂
TeeCee
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Post #38 15 Jan 2021 23:12
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http://custombuiltrods.co.uk/build-blank.php?id_manufacturer=1&id_blank=2
bluebeat13
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Post #39 16 Jan 2021 01:20
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You know that the image of the rod as you build it on that website is the same for every blank? They haven't detailed every joint for every manufacturer. If you own the rods take a look at those and compare to the one in your link.
TeeCee
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Post #40 16 Jan 2021 05:57
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Didn't notice that, many thanks

There's plenty of other owners of the same rod on here, I'm sure they'll say I'm talking cobblers if I'm not correct. Anyway, at the end of the day, it's just a fishing rod, even if they were made by Yin Yang™ of China, we're not talking about a 14kg.bar of *supposed* gold only to find out later it was loaded with tungsten are we,.you know?

@jeffire

I wasn't digging you out by my post, just pointing out it wasn't the case of my rods
noj
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Social photographer... Post #41 16 Jan 2021 07:55
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Bull**** alert
Pimp Pimp
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Post #42 16 Jan 2021 09:11
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i used super glue on mine as already suggested (torrix rods)
had no issues
duggs
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Post #43 16 Jan 2021 11:17
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That shouldn't be necessary with the Harrison overfit joints, I think some rod builders go a bit too tight with the whippings below the joint. It looks great when new but doesn't leave a lot for wear. I'm not sur if the whipping serves a purpose or is just cosmetic to minimise the difference at the joint
I've got a few Harrison rods, 7 different blanks, not a spigot joint among them
jeffire jeffire
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Post #44 16 Jan 2021 12:30
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In reply to Post #40
If you have a loose fitting spigot prestons joint save is better than superglue , its what i use on worn pole fittings , as said superglue will work but isnt waterproof.bobco tackle have it , never used it on a harrison blank though .
jeffire jeffire
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Post #45 16 Jan 2021 12:32
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Torrix dont have spigots either.
bluebeat13
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Post #46 16 Jan 2021 12:33
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Would a very thin coat of epoxy rubbed back to a nice tight fit not be better than superglue?
jeffire jeffire
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Post #47 16 Jan 2021 12:35
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Yes but it would but harder to work with.
TeeCee
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Post #48 16 Jan 2021 12:52
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Looks like Bobco are out. This stuff is like rocking horse poo. Wouldn't surprise me that it's got some kind of organic compound in it that was part of the EU ban.
duggs
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Post #49 16 Jan 2021 15:26
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You could probably thin it for that application, would make it easier to get a thin coat
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #50 16 Jan 2021 15:40
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Don't know if it's any use but there is a trick where you mix superglue with bicarb of soda to get a rock hard lasting finish. I've done it to repair hard plastic guitar nuts (the thing at the top of the neck all the strings go through), it sets rock hard and then can be filed sanded as required
duggs
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Post #51 18 Jan 2021 19:06
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I like that trick, I tried it out today setting magnets in some joinery

Not sure how it'd work on a spigot tho
OldSkoolTactics OldSkoolTactics
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Post #52 18 Jan 2021 21:52
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This may sound stupid but have accidentally mixed the rod tops up? You could try it on the other two (assuming you have three) bottom pieces?

I was told with my free spirits never to mix them up as they're made together to fit?
vossy1 vossy1
MODERATORMOD
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Post #54 19 Jan 2021 18:44
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In reply to Post #52
Could well be the case, worth a mention
TeeCee
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Post #55 19 Jan 2021 20:39
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In reply to Post #52
Was the first thing I checked. My rods are numbered.
Goose Goose
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Post #56 19 Jan 2021 23:08
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So these treb lites are custom built as Harrison don't number their factory builds.
noj
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Social photographer... Post #57 19 Jan 2021 23:09
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Special edition custom builds....
With a spigot
TeeCee
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Post #58 19 Jan 2021 23:10
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In reply to Post #56
Yeah, they're custom Vic Gibinson did them.
noj
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Social photographer... Post #59 19 Jan 2021 23:11
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Vic Gibson not building their rods anymore?
phil090781
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Post #60 20 Jan 2021 10:17
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Not trying to be a pr*ck but are you sure you're not mistaking an overfit joint for a spigot? Harrisons have always been overfit.

Either that or perhaps they're not the rods you were told they were?
TeeCee
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Post #61 20 Jan 2021 11:09
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They'd have to be overfit seeing as what they are. I think I've confused things as I'm used to seeing a normal overfit that doesn't have whippings close to the fitting like mine do. They've got 1k halfway up the tip section with reinforcing around the bottom of the tip joint, with 1k all throughout the butt section.

They ain't moody Trebs as they're the same as the 13ft jobs I was arsing around with in Angling Direct in the summer. Not that it's a big thing at all, they're just rods.
bluebeat13
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Post #62 20 Jan 2021 11:13
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A few photos should clear it up for you, a few people with good rod blank knowledge on here.
TeeCee
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Post #63 20 Jan 2021 11:17
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I've no photo account, so I can't. If Johnson Ross and Terry say they are, then I'm happy with that.
jeffire jeffire
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Post #64 20 Jan 2021 11:57
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I ,ve built enough trebs to know how they fit together.If anyone can put a pic up for me i can send you one .
TeeCee
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Post #65 20 Jan 2021 19:27
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Wow, this was long winded trying to post these. FFS! >>My Treb Lites<<
jeffire jeffire
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Post #66 20 Jan 2021 19:56
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Not great pics , if they are overfits they are very worn , if they are spigots they are not treb lites . I cant put pics up but if anyone can i can mail them and you can do a comparison.I re wrote this post as i cant see the weave properly on yours .
TeeCee
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Post #67 20 Jan 2021 20:46
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Here you go Jeff. There is one of the tip where half way up it goes from 1k to ordinary looking carbon >>Rods<<
Goose Goose
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Post #68 20 Jan 2021 21:09
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Goose Goose
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Post #69 20 Jan 2021 21:10
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Rubbish pics, hope your trophy shots aren't that bad.
TeeCee
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Post #70 20 Jan 2021 21:18
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TeeCee
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Post #71 20 Jan 2021 21:31
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You have to click on the image I've linked to and then again to get it to zoom

Posting images isn't that great on here as you can't (I can't) click on to zoom.
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