In reply to Post #29
. . .I use Fabsil Gold on my fishing outerwear . . .much better than Nikwax / current Grangers Repel as breathability when sitting on ones arse is not such an issue! The Drykore kit will soon be getting a good dose of it come spring.
. . .I use Fabsil Gold on my fishing outerwear . . .much better than Nikwax / current Grangers Repel as breathability when sitting on ones arse is not such an issue! The Drykore kit will soon be getting a good dose of it come spring.
In reply to Post #31
I have been using Grangers waterproofing since the Mesowax days
and a few years ago I spoke to a very helpful guy at Grangers Tech dept and discussed their Fabsil range he explained that most problems are caused simply by DIRT clogging and stopping the beading properties and it wets out but simply cleaning them with A universal cleaner think its renamed now called Grangers Fabsil Tent & Gear Cleaner? with restore perfect performance
I asked him about Fabsil Gold ? and he said yes great on Gor-Tex but a complete waste of money on a normal tent or poly coated material as it would do NOTHING that the cheaper standard Fabsil would do
I have used in the past the Nikwax WPR spray with great results on my ex army Gortex
but this year tried the Grangers Repel plus Spray and the EXCELLENT beading was very noticeable
I have bivvies that are over 8 year old and NEVER been reproofed or needed it
they have however been washed with clean warm to hot water and soft dustpan brush and a sponge with some Wilco pure soap liquid for stubborn birds poo or tree sap
I have been using Grangers waterproofing since the Mesowax days
and a few years ago I spoke to a very helpful guy at Grangers Tech dept and discussed their Fabsil range he explained that most problems are caused simply by DIRT clogging and stopping the beading properties and it wets out but simply cleaning them with A universal cleaner think its renamed now called Grangers Fabsil Tent & Gear Cleaner? with restore perfect performance
I asked him about Fabsil Gold ? and he said yes great on Gor-Tex but a complete waste of money on a normal tent or poly coated material as it would do NOTHING that the cheaper standard Fabsil would do
I have used in the past the Nikwax WPR spray with great results on my ex army Gortex
but this year tried the Grangers Repel plus Spray and the EXCELLENT beading was very noticeable
I have bivvies that are over 8 year old and NEVER been reproofed or needed it
they have however been washed with clean warm to hot water and soft dustpan brush and a sponge with some Wilco pure soap liquid for stubborn birds poo or tree sap
In reply to Post #32
Washing is def the first solution above all reproofing . . .don't agree re Grangers Repel, the old Grangers XT stuff with nasty flurocarbons was waaay better (albeit damaging to the universe apparently). Currently down to my last bottle . . .
Washing is def the first solution above all reproofing . . .don't agree re Grangers Repel, the old Grangers XT stuff with nasty flurocarbons was waaay better (albeit damaging to the universe apparently). Currently down to my last bottle . . .
In reply to Post #32
It's funny you're saying all of that Jerry, none of which I doubt, thing is, I re-proofed an Aqua M3 Compact with the Fabsil gold and didn't think much of it. I did go through a thorough cleaning process with the correct gear and all looked good, just didn't work that great, plus it made the biv noticeably heavier. Maybe I goofed something up?
Used the Trakker re-proofing kit recently on my Pioneer, that came out really well and I'm very happy with the results.
I've never had great results re-proofing Goretex, always failed miserably on that front, so much so I'm just inclined to send my gear off and have a company sort it out. Wanna get my Harkila Pro Hunter sorted at some point 🙂
It's funny you're saying all of that Jerry, none of which I doubt, thing is, I re-proofed an Aqua M3 Compact with the Fabsil gold and didn't think much of it. I did go through a thorough cleaning process with the correct gear and all looked good, just didn't work that great, plus it made the biv noticeably heavier. Maybe I goofed something up?
Used the Trakker re-proofing kit recently on my Pioneer, that came out really well and I'm very happy with the results.
I've never had great results re-proofing Goretex, always failed miserably on that front, so much so I'm just inclined to send my gear off and have a company sort it out. Wanna get my Harkila Pro Hunter sorted at some point 🙂
In reply to Post #29
Assume the op wanted to be mobile as said light weight and not bulky, the old oilskins the boatman wear are dreadfully on land if moving around as they drench you from inside even though totally waterproof and I still have a set of guy cotton ones. Still think the best stuff for cleaning and restoring the dwr coating to gore-tex is storm which is a two pack wash and proofer and recommended by gore-tex. One of my bike suits is five years old with over sixty thousand miles use and still totally waterproof. My rab e-vent tens years and still waterproof. Fishing wise I don't need any technical kit as I don't sit out in the rain or cold wind, just use a brolly.
Assume the op wanted to be mobile as said light weight and not bulky, the old oilskins the boatman wear are dreadfully on land if moving around as they drench you from inside even though totally waterproof and I still have a set of guy cotton ones. Still think the best stuff for cleaning and restoring the dwr coating to gore-tex is storm which is a two pack wash and proofer and recommended by gore-tex. One of my bike suits is five years old with over sixty thousand miles use and still totally waterproof. My rab e-vent tens years and still waterproof. Fishing wise I don't need any technical kit as I don't sit out in the rain or cold wind, just use a brolly.
In reply to Post #34
did you paintbrush / dawb it on . .? Better with a pressure sprayer - much finer, more even application and less drippage / sorting out runs with a sponge etc to deal with . .
did you paintbrush / dawb it on . .? Better with a pressure sprayer - much finer, more even application and less drippage / sorting out runs with a sponge etc to deal with . .
In reply to Post #35
Tried a PVC one myself, poor
Will have a look at the storm, stuff Goose, never hear of it.
Currently have a Rab eVent, had it for around 5 years, never let me down, vey thick shell too, quality. Replaced a Berghaus Pro Shell with it
Tried a PVC one myself, poor
Will have a look at the storm, stuff Goose, never hear of it.
Currently have a Rab eVent, had it for around 5 years, never let me down, vey thick shell too, quality. Replaced a Berghaus Pro Shell with it
In reply to Post #31
Has anyone tried some of this “nano coating” on bivvy/clothing?
Like this https://nanodrops.co.uk/catalog/index.html#!/products/fabric-waterproof-spray-200-ml
Has anyone tried some of this “nano coating” on bivvy/clothing?
Like this https://nanodrops.co.uk/catalog/index.html#!/products/fabric-waterproof-spray-200-ml
In reply to Post #36
To be honest Belch, I really can't remember mate. If others are having positive results, must be me.
To be honest Belch, I really can't remember mate. If others are having positive results, must be me.
In reply to Post #34
Yeah totally agree, I've used Gold over the years and it's stayed water tight, but I wouldn't say its kept water beading off of it all that great tbh. Also done my Pioneer and Tempest with the trakker stuff last month. And it looks feels quite good. But I've not used it in the rain yet.
Yeah totally agree, I've used Gold over the years and it's stayed water tight, but I wouldn't say its kept water beading off of it all that great tbh. Also done my Pioneer and Tempest with the trakker stuff last month. And it looks feels quite good. But I've not used it in the rain yet.
In reply to Post #1
I ended up getting British MTP Waterproof jacket and trousers
jacket link
trousers link.
They have been tested a few times this year😉 and I can honestly say no complaints, no leaks.
I ended up getting British MTP Waterproof jacket and trousers
jacket link
trousers link.
They have been tested a few times this year😉 and I can honestly say no complaints, no leaks.
In reply to Post #34
the important thing with re-proofing Goretex is HEAT|!
if you use nikwax or Grangers /Fabsil wash and proofers you need to tumble dry it on a low heat or if dont have a tumble drier then you hang it to dry then go over it with a hair dryer get it nice and warm it make a huge difference to the beading properties I
I even do it with the spray on type not sure if its important with that though but makes me feel happy and only takes 10 mins
the important thing with re-proofing Goretex is HEAT|!
if you use nikwax or Grangers /Fabsil wash and proofers you need to tumble dry it on a low heat or if dont have a tumble drier then you hang it to dry then go over it with a hair dryer get it nice and warm it make a huge difference to the beading properties I
I even do it with the spray on type not sure if its important with that though but makes me feel happy and only takes 10 mins
Just been reading through this thread guys and thinking of going the army goretex route. I'm 6ft 4inch tall so wondered where people get their military jackets and trousers from.
I'll be using the waterproof jacket and trousers for both fishing and walking the mutt (he gets walked for around 2 hours each day). Am I better off getting something that's insulated for winter use and a lighter jacket for summer or just a thinner jacket for all year round and adding layers fir winter use.
I was originally looking at a couple of the fishing brands (Trakker, Prologic, Korda and Aqua) but I've seen a few people have advised staying away from the fishing brands as apparently they aren't as good as they should.
I'll be using the waterproof jacket and trousers for both fishing and walking the mutt (he gets walked for around 2 hours each day). Am I better off getting something that's insulated for winter use and a lighter jacket for summer or just a thinner jacket for all year round and adding layers fir winter use.
I was originally looking at a couple of the fishing brands (Trakker, Prologic, Korda and Aqua) but I've seen a few people have advised staying away from the fishing brands as apparently they aren't as good as they should.
In reply to Post #43
A breathable waterproof garment that remains waterproof does not exist. I've finally found a material from Filson and dressed it to form my own, and better version, of tin cloth. It's as good as it gets I'm afraid.
A breathable waterproof garment that remains waterproof does not exist. I've finally found a material from Filson and dressed it to form my own, and better version, of tin cloth. It's as good as it gets I'm afraid.
I spent a lot of time fishing from a boat . After many failures , some of which have been mentioned already the winners for me were a Swazi smock and bib and brace. Not cheap but definitely a buy once option. Won't keep you warm but waterproofs are a one function item of clothing.