Morning all,
Well where I am, it seems that Summer might be over with lots of rain forecast for the foreseeable future.
Just wondering what people opt for when it comes to waterproof jackets and trousers?
I really like the styling of the Nash Zero Tolerance gear but the pricing is quite steep and can't help but feel there is a hefty amount of carp tax added to it.
I have some pretty thick base layers already so im not in need of stuff that would keep me warm, just dry.
Is there a forum favourite? look forward to seeing what people can recommend...
Thanks
SnapSh0ts
Well where I am, it seems that Summer might be over with lots of rain forecast for the foreseeable future.
Just wondering what people opt for when it comes to waterproof jackets and trousers?
I really like the styling of the Nash Zero Tolerance gear but the pricing is quite steep and can't help but feel there is a hefty amount of carp tax added to it.
I have some pretty thick base layers already so im not in need of stuff that would keep me warm, just dry.
Is there a forum favourite? look forward to seeing what people can recommend...
Thanks
SnapSh0ts
In reply to Post #1
Flexothane - Ideal waterproof outer layer.
https://www.tannertrading.co.uk/flexothane/
Flexothane - Ideal waterproof outer layer.
https://www.tannertrading.co.uk/flexothane/
In reply to Post #1
Korda drykore for me.
Simply put it keeps me dry and very well made.
Korda drykore for me.
Simply put it keeps me dry and very well made.
In reply to Post #1
I've used Nash waterproofs in the past. To behonest they weren't up to much. Calling them waterproofs when they was anything but. This was a while back mind and I think a lot of tackle brands have upped there game when it comes to water proof clothing these days.
But I think a lot of them have got a long way to go to match the quality of some of the higher end outdoor clothing specialist out there. I for one can't fault the Berghaus brand. They've never let me down.
If it's got to be fishing branded I've heard good things about the Fortis waterproofs. The name escapes me.
I've used Nash waterproofs in the past. To behonest they weren't up to much. Calling them waterproofs when they was anything but. This was a while back mind and I think a lot of tackle brands have upped there game when it comes to water proof clothing these days.
But I think a lot of them have got a long way to go to match the quality of some of the higher end outdoor clothing specialist out there. I for one can't fault the Berghaus brand. They've never let me down.
If it's got to be fishing branded I've heard good things about the Fortis waterproofs. The name escapes me.
In reply to Post #1
I just used a poncho now - you can get the same one as the nash version off amazon for around £10-15.
Covers everything down to knee and i generally use waders or water proof leggings (vass). Also great for using as a cover for my gear if raining as i generally fish a water where you have to use boats.
I just used a poncho now - you can get the same one as the nash version off amazon for around £10-15.
Covers everything down to knee and i generally use waders or water proof leggings (vass). Also great for using as a cover for my gear if raining as i generally fish a water where you have to use boats.
In reply to Post #1
for outdoor brands - patagonia & arcteryx have lifetime guarantee's - expensive ion the short term but save money in the long term.
for fishing brands, a friend has the korda stuff & he said it is as good as anything he has every worn (including the brands above)
for outdoor brands - patagonia & arcteryx have lifetime guarantee's - expensive ion the short term but save money in the long term.
for fishing brands, a friend has the korda stuff & he said it is as good as anything he has every worn (including the brands above)
In reply to Post #5
I have had a poncho in my rucksack for over 30 years now - one of those versatile bits of kit that works for everything from barrow cover, bedchair cover, groundsheet, sun shade, wind break & of course waterproof. had a rubberised german army one whilst in the UK but have used a cheap aliexpress one for the last couple of years - indispensable bit of kit IMO
I have had a poncho in my rucksack for over 30 years now - one of those versatile bits of kit that works for everything from barrow cover, bedchair cover, groundsheet, sun shade, wind break & of course waterproof. had a rubberised german army one whilst in the UK but have used a cheap aliexpress one for the last couple of years - indispensable bit of kit IMO
In reply to Post #1
Nash Zero Tolerence is excellent, look no further!
Nash Zero Tolerence is excellent, look no further!
Another 
for the Korda Drykore, I bought the jacket after recommendations on here and it is surprisingly good
for the Korda Drykore, I bought the jacket after recommendations on here and it is surprisingly good
In reply to Post #1
Another for Korda drykore, got jacket snd trousers and used them in several downpours, from fishing, walking the dog and school drop off's, been really impressed and kept bone dry!
Another for Korda drykore, got jacket snd trousers and used them in several downpours, from fishing, walking the dog and school drop off's, been really impressed and kept bone dry!
In reply to Post #1
Take a look at Jack Pyke, better than any angling branded clothing i have had without carp tax.
Take a look at Jack Pyke, better than any angling branded clothing i have had without carp tax.
At the moment I'm still using Deerhunter as when I find something I like I usually buy 2 sets, hunting brands are usually good. I've also got Flecktarn army jacket and trousers which is very good too.
Have a look at New Forrest Clothing's own range, very reasonably priced and well reviewed by people who use them daily for their outdoor jobs.
Have a look at New Forrest Clothing's own range, very reasonably priced and well reviewed by people who use them daily for their outdoor jobs.
In reply to Post #1
https://www.norrona.com/en-GB/products/recon/
https://www.norrona.com/en-GB/products/recon/
British army lightweight goretex
In reply to Post #1
Flexothane enough said
Flexothane enough said
If you want cheap and waterproof and able to go over layers of clothing then the French army goretex jackets take some beating. If you can find one in your size. Great value for money.
However not trendy looking, will do the job on the bank. Maybe not for the tackle tarts amongst us.
However not trendy looking, will do the job on the bank. Maybe not for the tackle tarts amongst us.
In reply to Post #12
lol.. Norrona.... ... £499 for a pair of trousers... LMFAO......
lol.. Norrona.... ... £499 for a pair of trousers... LMFAO......
In reply to Post #1
+1 for Korda Drykore
For fishing branded kit this is actually pretty good - lightweight / stretchy / comfortable / breathable enough and with a decent hood . . just size up if you want to layer up - I am a standard XL in most things and the jacket on this is a little 'fitted' . . .so sent back and went XXL instead
+1 for Korda Drykore
For fishing branded kit this is actually pretty good - lightweight / stretchy / comfortable / breathable enough and with a decent hood . . just size up if you want to layer up - I am a standard XL in most things and the jacket on this is a little 'fitted' . . .so sent back and went XXL instead
In reply to Post #17
lol.. Norrona.... ... £499 for a pair of trousers... LMFAO......
If it makes you happy and you have the money, why not.
Not for me personally, I'd probably never spend more than £75 and would filter results as such so I'd never see that one
lol.. Norrona.... ... £499 for a pair of trousers... LMFAO......
If it makes you happy and you have the money, why not.
Not for me personally, I'd probably never spend more than £75 and would filter results as such so I'd never see that one
Interested in thei myself. Brought the Korda dry kore and the jacket is terrible, i always get a wet in it.
In reply to Post #17
They're for the properly attired 'country' type, you know the ones, Le Chameau wellies, springer spaniel or black labrador etc.
They're for the properly attired 'country' type, you know the ones, Le Chameau wellies, springer spaniel or black labrador etc.
I have the Fox Aquos Tri Layer jacket. Looks great, fits great, but is incredibly poor at keeping me dry. I get wet through every time it rains therefore I'm looking for something that can stand the test of a heavy downpour.
Interesting to hear rave reviews for Korda Dry Kore and then one review of a similar experience to mine with my Fox jacket. So, can it actually sustain a heavy downpour?!
EDIT
The Fox jacket has the following:
Water resistance rating of 25,000mm HH and 3,000g/m2 breathable.
Whereas the Fortis Marine has 20k HH and 20k Breathable. Is that what stops you from getting wet?
Interesting to hear rave reviews for Korda Dry Kore and then one review of a similar experience to mine with my Fox jacket. So, can it actually sustain a heavy downpour?!
EDIT
The Fox jacket has the following:
Water resistance rating of 25,000mm HH and 3,000g/m2 breathable.
Whereas the Fortis Marine has 20k HH and 20k Breathable. Is that what stops you from getting wet?
In reply to Post #22
I know they are breathable but i wonder if the wet is sweat / water vapour unable to get out quick enough rather than rain soaking through, or a combination of both?
I always tend to go for non fishing goretex or similar but have just bought the speero jacket & trousers. Fit well & look the part but not been in a downpour yet to check what they are like.
I know they are breathable but i wonder if the wet is sweat / water vapour unable to get out quick enough rather than rain soaking through, or a combination of both?
I always tend to go for non fishing goretex or similar but have just bought the speero jacket & trousers. Fit well & look the part but not been in a downpour yet to check what they are like.
Fortis marine
In reply to Post #15
Praise be
Praise be
In reply to Post #21
Norrona is for nordic types and skiers who've not discovered Arcteryx yet! Top kit tbf but OTT for fishing . . .
Norrona is for nordic types and skiers who've not discovered Arcteryx yet! Top kit tbf but OTT for fishing . . .
+1 for the Fortis Marine gear
Harkila
In reply to Post #20
If its wetting out you are either sweating too much and/or it probably just needs a wash in a low soap wash (grangers/nikwax) and a spin in the tumble dryer. None of these fabrics including much more expensive goretex pro work if they're dirty / covered in fish slime / boilie crumb / oily dips . . .if its still wetting out then re-proof with a spray on re-proofer.
Breathability in carp gear is not that key as we are static most of the time - Diver Daves Repel is far better than the current non-fluro sprays; alternatively Fabsil Gold in a pressure sprayer does the job - your jacket will bead up nicely and be impervious to the rain!
If its wetting out you are either sweating too much and/or it probably just needs a wash in a low soap wash (grangers/nikwax) and a spin in the tumble dryer. None of these fabrics including much more expensive goretex pro work if they're dirty / covered in fish slime / boilie crumb / oily dips . . .if its still wetting out then re-proof with a spray on re-proofer.
Breathability in carp gear is not that key as we are static most of the time - Diver Daves Repel is far better than the current non-fluro sprays; alternatively Fabsil Gold in a pressure sprayer does the job - your jacket will bead up nicely and be impervious to the rain!
After a Korda drykore jacket olive in large. Everywhere out of stock!
one word only - GORETEX!!
In reply to Post #31
With the greatest respect, there's more than one. Taken from an external site.
All Gore-Tex products are made with a Gore-Tex membrane sandwiched between a face fabric and an inner layer. The face fabric provides protection and can be made from different materials and thicknesses giving the brand using the membrane options on how the want the final garment to perform.
There are 3 Gore Tex waterproof membranes. Gore-Tex, Gore-Tex Pro & Gore-Tex Active. There is also Gore Infinium, which is windproof, but not waterproof. This article will explain the different constructions and uses of each of the membranes.
Gore-Tex - Great breathability which is tough, light and durable.
Gore-Tex Pro - Built for maximum durability and protection.
Gore-Tex Active - Breathability and weight optimised at the expense of durability.
Gore-Tex PacLite - Low bulk and small pack size optimised over durability.
Gore Infinium - Completely windproof and weather resistant softshell membrane.
With the greatest respect, there's more than one. Taken from an external site.
All Gore-Tex products are made with a Gore-Tex membrane sandwiched between a face fabric and an inner layer. The face fabric provides protection and can be made from different materials and thicknesses giving the brand using the membrane options on how the want the final garment to perform.
There are 3 Gore Tex waterproof membranes. Gore-Tex, Gore-Tex Pro & Gore-Tex Active. There is also Gore Infinium, which is windproof, but not waterproof. This article will explain the different constructions and uses of each of the membranes.
Gore-Tex - Great breathability which is tough, light and durable.
Gore-Tex Pro - Built for maximum durability and protection.
Gore-Tex Active - Breathability and weight optimised at the expense of durability.
Gore-Tex PacLite - Low bulk and small pack size optimised over durability.
Gore Infinium - Completely windproof and weather resistant softshell membrane.
Obviously there will be quite a lot of different recommendations based on price and performance. If you are sitting under a bivvy or brolly and just occasionally going out in rain then a cheap brand like Regatta will suffice. If you are sitting out in the rain with no overhead cover then something a bit more durable would be better.
If you go down the branded fishing clothing route they tend to be a mixed bag, some good some bad. It looks like the Korda DryKore may be ones that got it right, but generally fishing brands are considered not as good as purpose designed outdoor wear from a good manufacturer and can be more expensive when carp tax is applied.
The other route is the high end market where companies that make top end pro gear which are the best but are expensive.
My basic set of waterproofs are my issued MK1 army cammo MPV (moisture permeable vapour) waterproofs which is the same technology as a GoreTex membrane and some say it is Goretex but being army there are no brand label on. Perfectly suitable for European conditions, cheap, and if you look after them and re proof when neccessary will last a very long time. Downside is with fishing or army waterproofs you wouldn't really want to wear them off the bank.
I also have a pair of high end Berghaus trousers. In some ways Berghaus are a victim of their own success. Due the world and his dog buying them, from reporters or journalists on TV, to mothers on the school run, people forget at the top end they are a serious outdoor clothing company. My trousers are the Extrem version, now marketed under the MTN logo. Loads of features, full length zip legs, high back waist, detachable braces, zip off internal snow gaiters (for climbing, skiing, snowboarding etc), Goretex Pro membrane, rip stop outer fabric, reinforced knees, arse and inside ankles, seriously tough, waterproof and don't look out of place off the bank so are more versatile to offset your initial outlay. 👍
If you go down the branded fishing clothing route they tend to be a mixed bag, some good some bad. It looks like the Korda DryKore may be ones that got it right, but generally fishing brands are considered not as good as purpose designed outdoor wear from a good manufacturer and can be more expensive when carp tax is applied.
The other route is the high end market where companies that make top end pro gear which are the best but are expensive.
My basic set of waterproofs are my issued MK1 army cammo MPV (moisture permeable vapour) waterproofs which is the same technology as a GoreTex membrane and some say it is Goretex but being army there are no brand label on. Perfectly suitable for European conditions, cheap, and if you look after them and re proof when neccessary will last a very long time. Downside is with fishing or army waterproofs you wouldn't really want to wear them off the bank.
I also have a pair of high end Berghaus trousers. In some ways Berghaus are a victim of their own success. Due the world and his dog buying them, from reporters or journalists on TV, to mothers on the school run, people forget at the top end they are a serious outdoor clothing company. My trousers are the Extrem version, now marketed under the MTN logo. Loads of features, full length zip legs, high back waist, detachable braces, zip off internal snow gaiters (for climbing, skiing, snowboarding etc), Goretex Pro membrane, rip stop outer fabric, reinforced knees, arse and inside ankles, seriously tough, waterproof and don't look out of place off the bank so are more versatile to offset your initial outlay. 👍
In reply to Post #32
3 layer Goretex has been recognised as the industry leader since its inception. Closely followed in waterproof/breathability by Patagonia's proprietary H2NO.
Arcteryx produces some of the highest quality performance clothing out there and introduced things like laser cut fabric and zip garages. But at a very high price.
I have upwards of twenty top of the range breathable shell jackets from a variety of top brands - Arcteryx 3 layer pro is bombproof.
If looked after and washed properly a jacket will last many years.
I was sponsored by Arcteryx for 15+ yrs and wore their clothing 150days+ a year.
For fishing I generally use a pair of Arcyrex 3layer pants in charcoal and a Patagonia H2NO jacket in Olive green.
However who want to spend £400+ on a fishing coat? No one I know.
For £180 I would highly recommend this jacket. Bang for your buck it's right up there.
https://eu.patagonia.com/gb/en/product/mens-torrentshell-3-layer-rain-jacket/85241.html?dwvar_85241_color=TPGN
3 layer Goretex has been recognised as the industry leader since its inception. Closely followed in waterproof/breathability by Patagonia's proprietary H2NO.
Arcteryx produces some of the highest quality performance clothing out there and introduced things like laser cut fabric and zip garages. But at a very high price.
I have upwards of twenty top of the range breathable shell jackets from a variety of top brands - Arcteryx 3 layer pro is bombproof.
If looked after and washed properly a jacket will last many years.
I was sponsored by Arcteryx for 15+ yrs and wore their clothing 150days+ a year.
For fishing I generally use a pair of Arcyrex 3layer pants in charcoal and a Patagonia H2NO jacket in Olive green.
However who want to spend £400+ on a fishing coat? No one I know.
For £180 I would highly recommend this jacket. Bang for your buck it's right up there.
https://eu.patagonia.com/gb/en/product/mens-torrentshell-3-layer-rain-jacket/85241.html?dwvar_85241_color=TPGN
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