Heard a few reports of Carp on some venues starting to go through the motions of spawning. First real hot day of the year so far, down south anyway, and there at it.
Does make me wonder if we are in for a really cold summer. And the fish are making hay while the sunshine as it were. Do the fish know something we don't. Just a thought.
Does make me wonder if we are in for a really cold summer. And the fish are making hay while the sunshine as it were. Do the fish know something we don't. Just a thought.
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Funnily enough I went to pre bait a lake today and they've been hard at it since Tuesday....deepest darkest Cheshire!
Funnily enough I went to pre bait a lake today and they've been hard at it since Tuesday....deepest darkest Cheshire!
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Prince Albert shut a water today as started at it already
Prince Albert shut a water today as started at it already
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One of our lakes on the complex is shut as of today . . .
One of our lakes on the complex is shut as of today . . .
Seen a report of a lake in Cornwall early this week. It took me by surprise as nowhere I have visited feels even remotely close. Started to see a few reports today, I would be surprised if the bigger deeper lakes go within this month though.
I'm out fishing now on a public lake and they are not quite there yet just loving the sun at the minute,had a 15.8 out early yesterday morning could have been a male fish as it didn't seem like it was spawning.
Had a nice mid double common from my club lake over the bank holiday. Almost certainly a male. Absolutely beasted me in the fight. Lots of fish in the same area of shallows so I'm expecting them to go for it over the weekend/next week
Few lakes on Farnham ticket showing signs.
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Hope you and the fish are right about a cold, or mild, summer. Today i checked some spots where they usually spawn and no sign yet.
Hope you and the fish are right about a cold, or mild, summer. Today i checked some spots where they usually spawn and no sign yet.
My mate has turned up at a lake we fish in notts and they showing signs of spawning. It's surprising as the lake was still in flood a week ago
One of the club lakes has been going since Monday. Think it could be a long protracted spawning season this year.
Well. Let's hope they get it out there system soon. So my club waters can reopen in June.
Few waters have started going and id say more over the next few days.... waters gone up over 5 degrees in last 7 days
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yep, oxfordshire lakes I'm on have started.
Water temp was 19 degrees when I fished Wednesday night so not too surprised. Going to drop again after the weekend though.
yep, oxfordshire lakes I'm on have started.
Water temp was 19 degrees when I fished Wednesday night so not too surprised. Going to drop again after the weekend though.
Begs the question why we are all surprised they are spawning. The fish adapt to everything, including the climate. Spawning is generally bought on by photoperiod as much as temperature. Why are we stuck on scientific ideals.
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I wasn't surprised, good luck for me, they'll be needing a good munch after all that and few bother putting bait in if they can't fish! Closed for 3 weeks, maybe extended if thet carry on into next week.
Not too sure I like the conditions re water keeping/deoxygenation, thunderstorms due and a drop in temp and from my dog walks the algae has a good headstart this year, thick bubbly rafts on some waters! Hopefully its too early in the year with a lower burden.
I wasn't surprised, good luck for me, they'll be needing a good munch after all that and few bother putting bait in if they can't fish! Closed for 3 weeks, maybe extended if thet carry on into next week.
Not too sure I like the conditions re water keeping/deoxygenation, thunderstorms due and a drop in temp and from my dog walks the algae has a good headstart this year, thick bubbly rafts on some waters! Hopefully its too early in the year with a lower burden.
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I think possibly because to me it doesn't feel like we've had a spring yet.
I think possibly because to me it doesn't feel like we've had a spring yet.
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I make you right on that! We've had abysmal weather all “spring” and then within 3 days of it actually feeling like spring, they get their jiggy on lol
I make you right on that! We've had abysmal weather all “spring” and then within 3 days of it actually feeling like spring, they get their jiggy on lol
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Funny thing is back in the 70's and 80's the carp almost always seemed to spawn near the of closed season or after the season had started.
I wonder if their habits appear to have changed due to the different strains that are common in our lakes now?
Funny thing is back in the 70's and 80's the carp almost always seemed to spawn near the of closed season or after the season had started.
I wonder if their habits appear to have changed due to the different strains that are common in our lakes now?
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Sods law would always dictate that they would always spawn on our around the 16th June.
We would still fish for them mind. Anglers weren't so mortally blessed back then..
. We've waited three months to wet a line. We ain't going to let a bit of fish nookie get in the way of that.. 
The reason I started the thread is that I found it astonishing. That with the seasonally cold weather we have been having. Is that in the case of a lot of fisheries it took one or two days of higher than normal temps for the fish to get it on.
In years gone by I have found it normally takes a sustained length of good weather for the water to warm up enough so this can happen. Strange for me anyway
Sods law would always dictate that they would always spawn on our around the 16th June.
We would still fish for them mind. Anglers weren't so mortally blessed back then..
. We've waited three months to wet a line. We ain't going to let a bit of fish nookie get in the way of that.. The reason I started the thread is that I found it astonishing. That with the seasonally cold weather we have been having. Is that in the case of a lot of fisheries it took one or two days of higher than normal temps for the fish to get it on.
In years gone by I have found it normally takes a sustained length of good weather for the water to warm up enough so this can happen. Strange for me anyway
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And in reply to your 2nd part of your post. I'm not sure it's anything to do with different strains. More to do with different Stockings. You will probably find fish that are stocked together will spawn together. Maybe something to do with age. This might be reason why a lot of lakes fish are spawning all over the place and at different times.
And in reply to your 2nd part of your post. I'm not sure it's anything to do with different strains. More to do with different Stockings. You will probably find fish that are stocked together will spawn together. Maybe something to do with age. This might be reason why a lot of lakes fish are spawning all over the place and at different times.
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I guess partly as it never got that cold over the winter, so water didn't need to warm up as much. certainly the lakes I fish have been in double figures for a couple of months already.
I guess partly as it never got that cold over the winter, so water didn't need to warm up as much. certainly the lakes I fish have been in double figures for a couple of months already.
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Good point.
Good point.
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Oh the different age groups is definitely a thing. I've fished lakes where if we stopped fishing every time some carp spawned the lake would be shut from May until the end of August.
Do you ever remember there being mortalities from the carp being angled for when they were spawning? I certainly don't.
Oh the different age groups is definitely a thing. I've fished lakes where if we stopped fishing every time some carp spawned the lake would be shut from May until the end of August.
Do you ever remember there being mortalities from the carp being angled for when they were spawning? I certainly don't.
I never understand why people are so proud that they pack up when fish start spawning, but they are happy to fish for them up to the very last second before they start splashing about. As if it's only if they get caught during the actual act of spawning that is stressful.
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Spot on,I'm glad the club I'm on have decided to just shut the waters and not leave it upto the idiots to decide
Spot on,I'm glad the club I'm on have decided to just shut the waters and not leave it upto the idiots to decide
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100% right. I'd rather a female were caught two days after spawning than two days before.
100% right. I'd rather a female were caught two days after spawning than two days before.
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Indeed, far more risk when they are gravid.
Indeed, far more risk when they are gravid.
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It's been a long, long time since Sparsholt but I remember carp beginning their second phase of spawning when the watter is 18°c. On the large water I've been fishing its definitely been that, in the shallows. In the deeper water its much lower. The result is the fish have spawned in the shallow water, in the sun and in the lea of the wind.
It's been a long, long time since Sparsholt but I remember carp beginning their second phase of spawning when the watter is 18°c. On the large water I've been fishing its definitely been that, in the shallows. In the deeper water its much lower. The result is the fish have spawned in the shallow water, in the sun and in the lea of the wind.
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I remember reading in Chris Yates classic book, Casting at the Sun, that the carp in the famous Bernithan Court lake all spawned in one night. Same age, same stock. Out current mix of year classes and manipulated strains cause spawning to last many weeks with different groups and ages taking their turn.
I remember reading in Chris Yates classic book, Casting at the Sun, that the carp in the famous Bernithan Court lake all spawned in one night. Same age, same stock. Out current mix of year classes and manipulated strains cause spawning to last many weeks with different groups and ages taking their turn.
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...and why o' why aren't carp breeders simply triploiding them? We don't want the prodigy, we don't want the related stress, we don't want to have to stop fishing. I think triploid carp would show increased growth too.
...and why o' why aren't carp breeders simply triploiding them? We don't want the prodigy, we don't want the related stress, we don't want to have to stop fishing. I think triploid carp would show increased growth too.
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I think you might be surprised just how many fishery owners do want the offspring. Quite a few are gathering spawn and fry to raise, initially in IBC's and then dedicated stock ponds.
I think you might be surprised just how many fishery owners do want the offspring. Quite a few are gathering spawn and fry to raise, initially in IBC's and then dedicated stock ponds.
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