Does anyone know a shop that has a Fox Frontier on display?
I'm in Barnet north London so ideally within an hours drive.
Want to have a closer look before I make my mind up.
Thanks for any replies.
MH
I'm in Barnet north London so ideally within an hours drive.
Want to have a closer look before I make my mind up.
Thanks for any replies.
MH
You could try calling AD in Waltham Cross, they have a few bivvys up but don't know if they have the frontier. Outlaw Pro in Essex also worth a call, Browns in Leighton Buzzard..
I reckon if you're serious about buying one then Johnson Ross would put one up for you, but they don't have bivvys on display as standard.
I reckon if you're serious about buying one then Johnson Ross would put one up for you, but they don't have bivvys on display as standard.
In reply to Post #2
Outlaw Pro don't have any shelters on display at the minute unfortunately.
Outlaw Pro don't have any shelters on display at the minute unfortunately.
In reply to Post #1
What about Dave at Oakwood
They had a couple in
Could be worth a call
The tackle shack in Hemel are showing 4 in stock so they could be worth a call too
What about Dave at Oakwood
They had a couple in
Could be worth a call
The tackle shack in Hemel are showing 4 in stock so they could be worth a call too
In reply to Post #1
Drive up to the big one and compare all the bivvys that you maybe interested in.
Drive up to the big one and compare all the bivvys that you maybe interested in.
In reply to Post #1
Dont do it Mark, stick with the tempest
Michael
Dont do it Mark, stick with the tempest
Michael
In reply to Post #6
I keep looking at the square flat back - its drawing me in!!
I keep looking at the square flat back - its drawing me in!!
In reply to Post #7
Best bivvy out there IMO, I've got the X and XD, you wont regret it.
Daz
Best bivvy out there IMO, I've got the X and XD, you wont regret it.
Daz
In reply to Post #7
Same, the flat back is the only thing I like about it. I hate the way they look, and they seem really heavy in the bag. My tempest is on its last legs and I'm stuck between a frontier or another tempest. The frontier just seems so much more spacious inside and fits in boarded swims better.
Same, the flat back is the only thing I like about it. I hate the way they look, and they seem really heavy in the bag. My tempest is on its last legs and I'm stuck between a frontier or another tempest. The frontier just seems so much more spacious inside and fits in boarded swims better.
In reply to Post #9
Yeah my tempest v1 bivvy has seen better days and after 7 long years of use feel like a new one. The problem I have is the new tempest 100 is smaller than the V1 and the 150 is too big.
My v1 is the perfect Why do they have to keep changing things?
Yeah my tempest v1 bivvy has seen better days and after 7 long years of use feel like a new one. The problem I have is the new tempest 100 is smaller than the V1 and the 150 is too big.
My v1 is the perfect Why do they have to keep changing things?
In reply to Post #10
What annoys me is I have a tempest air, and all the add ons, utility front, overwrap etc. I wish they kept everything the same so I could still use all those on the new bivvy.
What annoys me is I have a tempest air, and all the add ons, utility front, overwrap etc. I wish they kept everything the same so I could still use all those on the new bivvy.
In reply to Post #12
It's a business to make money. They aren't stupid.
It's a business to make money. They aren't stupid.
In reply to Post #13
Exactly that, one of the biggest rips offs in fishing, tents
Makes me laugh when every year they then change the design, should have got it right in the first place ffs. Probably based on how much Chinese crap they get returned and then bin, all the failures will imitate a “new” model
Exactly that, one of the biggest rips offs in fishing, tents
Makes me laugh when every year they then change the design, should have got it right in the first place ffs. Probably based on how much Chinese crap they get returned and then bin, all the failures will imitate a “new” model
In reply to Post #14
Oh Mate, my thoughts as well.
I loved the original Fox EasyDome, I used it for years. The mark 2 was actually as good, I think the difference was a support bar to push the front out.
When I was working at Gladwells and the 'latest' version was brought out with a flat back it hadn't created any more space inside, or made the bivvy any better.
The redesign and 'upgrade' you know is to convince people to spend more money. The power of marketing.
It is done with so many items in fishing, hardly any products are a genuine improvement.
Oh Mate, my thoughts as well.
I loved the original Fox EasyDome, I used it for years. The mark 2 was actually as good, I think the difference was a support bar to push the front out.
When I was working at Gladwells and the 'latest' version was brought out with a flat back it hadn't created any more space inside, or made the bivvy any better.
The redesign and 'upgrade' you know is to convince people to spend more money. The power of marketing.
It is done with so many items in fishing, hardly any products are a genuine improvement.
Iirc Brown's have a Pioneer and a tempest out atm. Usually pretty good about getting a bivvy out to look at if seriously considering buying
In reply to Post #16
Just bumping this thread....
Looking at the width of the Frontier 185cm and the X 198.5cm.
My Solar SPC tech bed is 205cm.
Has anyone tried the above bed in the Fox bivvies?
Just bumping this thread....
Looking at the width of the Frontier 185cm and the X 198.5cm.
My Solar SPC tech bed is 205cm.
Has anyone tried the above bed in the Fox bivvies?
In reply to Post #17
I think that is front to back measurement,260 wide and 140 height
I think that is front to back measurement,260 wide and 140 height
In reply to Post #18
I think Bradders is right - i have a mate with a spc tech and frontier and it easily fits inside
I think Bradders is right - i have a mate with a spc tech and frontier and it easily fits inside
In reply to Post #17
Mark,
My solar bed fits in the V2 no probs (brolly version a bit tight) and definitely the 150 for French trips. If you like the Tempest principal would the 100T not be an option? I know the T stands for taller but I looked in a mates and the extra height creates an illusion of more space.
Just a thought.
Michael
Mark,
My solar bed fits in the V2 no probs (brolly version a bit tight) and definitely the 150 for French trips. If you like the Tempest principal would the 100T not be an option? I know the T stands for taller but I looked in a mates and the extra height creates an illusion of more space.
Just a thought.
Michael
I went from a tempest user for years over to the frontier x just fancied a change and it's the best thing I've done in a long time, I won't slate the tempest because it is a great bivvy I just much prefer the frontier and wouldn't go back, yeah it's a little heavy but way worth it in my eyes
In reply to Post #21
You are not the first person to say that,a few lads I know have done the same.They all love the extra space the frontier has with having the flat back
You are not the first person to say that,a few lads I know have done the same.They all love the extra space the frontier has with having the flat back
In reply to Post #22
Its the flat back that is tempting me - if you can get the bed far enough back there wont be a need for the door when its raining....
As I haven't seen one in the flesh am not sure wether the Normal one is plenty or should I think about the X as the X is same size (ish) on paper as my Tempest V1
Anyways will have to hope someone has one of my syndicate when its gets busy again and will have a nose about it.
Its the flat back that is tempting me - if you can get the bed far enough back there wont be a need for the door when its raining....
As I haven't seen one in the flesh am not sure wether the Normal one is plenty or should I think about the X as the X is same size (ish) on paper as my Tempest V1
Anyways will have to hope someone has one of my syndicate when its gets busy again and will have a nose about it.
I've had various Tempests, Nash Titan and the Hide Xl pro. The Frontier X is far better in my experience.
In reply to Post #23
The x is the one you want,the standard your bed will touch the sides and bulge out a bit
The x is the one you want,the standard your bed will touch the sides and bulge out a bit
I'm dying to get an XD...........same footprint as my tempest air about 40% more useable space due to the flat back and 35cm taller
In reply to Post #23
As I haven't seen one in the flesh am not sure wether the Normal one is plenty or should I think about the X as the X is same size (ish) on paper as my Tempest V1
I'm in the same boat. I've got a V2 brolly. It's great but the space at the back does my head in and it's also a bit low for me know I'm getting on a bit! lol
I saw a Frontier X and XD at the show last week. The X seemed pretty big to me, plenty of room. Would love to see one along side the standard and my v2 brolly. Still can't decide as the X is close to £500 all in.
As I haven't seen one in the flesh am not sure wether the Normal one is plenty or should I think about the X as the X is same size (ish) on paper as my Tempest V1
I'm in the same boat. I've got a V2 brolly. It's great but the space at the back does my head in and it's also a bit low for me know I'm getting on a bit! lol
I saw a Frontier X and XD at the show last week. The X seemed pretty big to me, plenty of room. Would love to see one along side the standard and my v2 brolly. Still can't decide as the X is close to £500 all in.
What space in v2 Brolly isn't useable ? I've had the v2 over 3 years and it's fantastic. I only take the kit i need on a session and have always had spare space around the bivvy.
Gone over to the 100T lately as I wanted more head height but the footprints the same.
I can can even put a spod rod in the rod bag along the back of the bivvy when not in use. Some people must be taking far too much kit.
Rucksack - always close to hand
Cooking kit under the bed.
Unhooking mat under the bed
Folded rod bag at the back of the Bivvy.
Bait bucket next to my head to double up as a table
Job done
Gone over to the 100T lately as I wanted more head height but the footprints the same.
I can can even put a spod rod in the rod bag along the back of the bivvy when not in use. Some people must be taking far too much kit.
Rucksack - always close to hand
Cooking kit under the bed.
Unhooking mat under the bed
Folded rod bag at the back of the Bivvy.
Bait bucket next to my head to double up as a table
Job done
In reply to Post #28
I only take one (for 24hrs) or two (for longer) Small Aqua Holdalls. A bait bucket or two and some water.
I use a bedchair buddy so anything behind the bed is a pain in the arse to get too. I'd much rather the bed right to the back and all my kit in front of me to the sides.
There is plenty of space at the back but I'd rather the space elsewhere :-)
I only take one (for 24hrs) or two (for longer) Small Aqua Holdalls. A bait bucket or two and some water.
I use a bedchair buddy so anything behind the bed is a pain in the arse to get too. I'd much rather the bed right to the back and all my kit in front of me to the sides.
There is plenty of space at the back but I'd rather the space elsewhere :-)
In reply to Post #29
That's sort of what I mean mate. Only things going behind the bed don't get used until pack up time. So there's never a need for turning around.
But I can see where your coming from in a way but if you get all your essentials under the ends of the bed and in front the v2 is near a perfect brolly ( bar height )
That's sort of what I mean mate. Only things going behind the bed don't get used until pack up time. So there's never a need for turning around.
But I can see where your coming from in a way but if you get all your essentials under the ends of the bed and in front the v2 is near a perfect brolly ( bar height )
In reply to Post #29
I'm also of the 'wasted space' opinion as well.
I've been playing with trying to reduce things behind the bedchair, saving that space for things I rarely need or use, which is things in the rucksack once I've got the scales, gas stove and cup out of it.
With the porch extension on my brolly system, I can actually get the bedchair from spokes to door with no problem and have everything on the side of the bivvy, and a gap down the middle.
I'm also of the 'wasted space' opinion as well.
I've been playing with trying to reduce things behind the bedchair, saving that space for things I rarely need or use, which is things in the rucksack once I've got the scales, gas stove and cup out of it.
With the porch extension on my brolly system, I can actually get the bedchair from spokes to door with no problem and have everything on the side of the bivvy, and a gap down the middle.
In reply to Post #30
I agree, I really like it. Just need a bit more height and like the look of the new flat back style.
I did see the new Solar Uni thing at the show, comes out next month. That looked pretty good!
I agree, I really like it. Just need a bit more height and like the look of the new flat back style.
I did see the new Solar Uni thing at the show, comes out next month. That looked pretty good!
In reply to Post #28
Unhooking may under the bed and bait bucket by your head. I don't want no unhooking mat in my bivvy 😂 and bait bucket can go down the foot end
Unhooking may under the bed and bait bucket by your head. I don't want no unhooking mat in my bivvy 😂 and bait bucket can go down the foot end
In reply to Post #33
Doesn't get used often so it's can stay there until needed. With a lid on a bucket you can't smell nothing so makes zero difference and doubles up as a table. Less kit and all has its place. Like I said never needed any space behind the bed even on 3 or 4 day sessions
Doesn't get used often so it's can stay there until needed. With a lid on a bucket you can't smell nothing so makes zero difference and doubles up as a table. Less kit and all has its place. Like I said never needed any space behind the bed even on 3 or 4 day sessions
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