Thought I would have a sunrise to sunset session today,
2 weeks ago the water was 2ft lower than normal, today
another ft, if I was lucky enough to catch landing it
would mean me going in so I didn't drag it over the gravel
or me falling in by reaching too far forward, either way
just not worth it, the feeder stream which is a few ft deep is
completely dry, came home, anyone have this on their lake.
2 weeks ago the water was 2ft lower than normal, today
another ft, if I was lucky enough to catch landing it
would mean me going in so I didn't drag it over the gravel
or me falling in by reaching too far forward, either way
just not worth it, the feeder stream which is a few ft deep is
completely dry, came home, anyone have this on their lake.
In reply to Post #1
All the lakes I fish are down between 2 to 4 feet the smaller river down and although its started raining this morning which could wash off the dry land quickly and get to the rivers I don't think we are going to get enough of it to make a huge difference.
All the lakes I fish are down between 2 to 4 feet the smaller river down and although its started raining this morning which could wash off the dry land quickly and get to the rivers I don't think we are going to get enough of it to make a huge difference.
In reply to Post #1
Big fish kill on my local pit, lost about 60% of the stock, oxygen crash.
Big fish kill on my local pit, lost about 60% of the stock, oxygen crash.
In reply to Post #2
Saw a demonstration on the News last week about how water absorbs into the ground with differing dryness. They got 3 glasses of water and turned them upside down on 3 different types of ground - one with wet ground, one with normal ground and one with very dry ground (which we have at the mo). The glass on the dry ground didn't absorb the water at all. So we're going to need LOADS of rain before we get anywhere close to normality!!
https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2022-08-11/what-happens-when-it-rains-after-a-heatwave
Saw a demonstration on the News last week about how water absorbs into the ground with differing dryness. They got 3 glasses of water and turned them upside down on 3 different types of ground - one with wet ground, one with normal ground and one with very dry ground (which we have at the mo). The glass on the dry ground didn't absorb the water at all. So we're going to need LOADS of rain before we get anywhere close to normality!!
https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2022-08-11/what-happens-when-it-rains-after-a-heatwave
In reply to Post #4
I've seen these too. The difference is pretty extreme.
Also saw some aerial footage of the UK comparing 'green' land from last year to what it looks like this year. Our green and pleasant land is a shade of burnt yellow at the moment
I've seen these too. The difference is pretty extreme.
Also saw some aerial footage of the UK comparing 'green' land from last year to what it looks like this year. Our green and pleasant land is a shade of burnt yellow at the moment
Water down 12 to 14 inches on a very shallow silty lake, still the ****s can't stop fishing it in 35 temps, all gear no fukin idea
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Despite it not being as hot up here in scotland the lochs and rivers particularly are very low but as you say the knobheads are out in force fishing for pike , despite a ban fishing on the loch i control i have removed 16 people a mixture of scots english and eastern european friends since friday !!! Absolute no concern for the fish welfare !!!
Despite it not being as hot up here in scotland the lochs and rivers particularly are very low but as you say the knobheads are out in force fishing for pike , despite a ban fishing on the loch i control i have removed 16 people a mixture of scots english and eastern european friends since friday !!! Absolute no concern for the fish welfare !!!
In reply to Post #3
we haven't had an oxygen crash, theres a machine that
floats in the lake all year round, so far so good, just hope
theres plenty more rain on the way, not just for the lakes
but for the farmers, as said below our green...... is yellow.
we haven't had an oxygen crash, theres a machine that
floats in the lake all year round, so far so good, just hope
theres plenty more rain on the way, not just for the lakes
but for the farmers, as said below our green...... is yellow.
In reply to Post #8
I've just read a report in the Daily Mail claiming Windemere is in a bad way with algae blooms. There is a short video of a distressed fish swimming in circles on the surface and a pic of a decent sized carp washed up.
I've just read a report in the Daily Mail claiming Windemere is in a bad way with algae blooms. There is a short video of a distressed fish swimming in circles on the surface and a pic of a decent sized carp washed up.
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not the sort of news we want is it, I remember the summer of 1976
very well, I wasn't carp fishing then but it had to be worse, 3 months
and no rain, aaand my wife was carrying our 2nd child, all my
mates called me a bas@^&%sd for getting her in the club at that
time, I was weak and she said....
not the sort of news we want is it, I remember the summer of 1976
very well, I wasn't carp fishing then but it had to be worse, 3 months
and no rain, aaand my wife was carrying our 2nd child, all my
mates called me a bas@^&%sd for getting her in the club at that
time, I was weak and she said....
So many lakes really struggling with these extreme conditions.
In reply to Post #8
We are down a foot at least, but the golf course do take some lake water for irrigation...We have a fountain on 9 till 6pm. Unfortunately the golf course don't seem keen on keeping it on full time for a few days for us even though we have stressed what can happen. Hopefully it will be enough to get us through. The angling times article I read (below) suggested that carp and tench are low risk but I guess if its bad enough
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We are down a foot at least, but the golf course do take some lake water for irrigation...We have a fountain on 9 till 6pm. Unfortunately the golf course don't seem keen on keeping it on full time for a few days for us even though we have stressed what can happen. Hopefully it will be enough to get us through. The angling times article I read (below) suggested that carp and tench are low risk but I guess if its bad enough
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Mine is well down as well, I reckon it is possible to wade from bank to bank without going above chest level for 3/4 of the lake.
We're lucky that if it rains it will just run down the valley slopes into the lake to bring the level up, it won't go over the outflow.
We also have a decent amount of weed for oxygen levels during the day.
Mine is well down as well, I reckon it is possible to wade from bank to bank without going above chest level for 3/4 of the lake.
We're lucky that if it rains it will just run down the valley slopes into the lake to bring the level up, it won't go over the outflow.
We also have a decent amount of weed for oxygen levels during the day.
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Is the issue that if you have a lot of weed and o2 levels are very high that means it can also crash more
Is the issue that if you have a lot of weed and o2 levels are very high that means it can also crash more
In reply to Post #15
Am I correct in reading from your management report that lilies are not overly beneficial?
Am I correct in reading from your management report that lilies are not overly beneficial?
In reply to Post #16
One lake I fish in wednesbury is about 4/5' down it's always like this and it was covered in lots of weed then it's shifted now as I went to look yesterday as I'm fishing somewhere else tomorrow but had a look anyway,now it's got a bit of water on it and only half the lake is covered in weed but even then there's now only 3 swims that are fishable now as it's all overgrown.
One lake I fish in wednesbury is about 4/5' down it's always like this and it was covered in lots of weed then it's shifted now as I went to look yesterday as I'm fishing somewhere else tomorrow but had a look anyway,now it's got a bit of water on it and only half the lake is covered in weed but even then there's now only 3 swims that are fishable now as it's all overgrown.
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Each lake seems to do what it wants to do, there really is no “Rule of Thumb” so to speak, probably because there are so many variables involved. Weed beds seem to form a buffer zone that prevent mad swings.
Example from around 5 years ago;
10ft from my left foot a lake with 2% DO readings (Everything dead!)
10ft from my right foot a 50 x 25m Stock Pond with 65% DO Readings – all stock fine and feeding on pellets!
Directly behind me about 150 yards away the L & L Canal with 75% DO readings
Directly in front of me just a 5 minute walk away is two Still waters both with 78% DO readings
All readings taken at the same time with four people (Two fishery owners and two EA Officers)
All at the same elevation/location, all fed from the same catchment area/same streams, all seen exactly the same weather conditions, but drastically different situations.
I'd be amazed if anyone can even guess, EA was puzzled - I got brownie points that afternoon when I sussed it
Each lake seems to do what it wants to do, there really is no “Rule of Thumb” so to speak, probably because there are so many variables involved. Weed beds seem to form a buffer zone that prevent mad swings.
Example from around 5 years ago;
10ft from my left foot a lake with 2% DO readings (Everything dead!)
10ft from my right foot a 50 x 25m Stock Pond with 65% DO Readings – all stock fine and feeding on pellets!
Directly behind me about 150 yards away the L & L Canal with 75% DO readings
Directly in front of me just a 5 minute walk away is two Still waters both with 78% DO readings
All readings taken at the same time with four people (Two fishery owners and two EA Officers)
All at the same elevation/location, all fed from the same catchment area/same streams, all seen exactly the same weather conditions, but drastically different situations.
I'd be amazed if anyone can even guess, EA was puzzled - I got brownie points that afternoon when I sussed it
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Not so bad down here in Cornwall but one lake I often fish is down about 18 inches as it's only fed by a spring, the flow of which has reduced considerably. Thankfully it has no significant algae or excess weed and was dug with a fairly open main area so any breeze ripples the water nicely.
Another lake is still as normal as it's fed by part of a decent stream and the flow through it can be increased if needed. Carp have obviously been basking here on both lakes when it's sunny but all seem fine.
Two well designed lakes that have been maintained properly and also not too many are piling excess bait in (especially if they adhere to the rules ) so the water quality and oxygen levels should be good in both.
Interesting to see some areas exposed on the first lake though and it explains some takes and refusals when the bait is close but not accessible from their safe area. A lot can be learnt on a walk around when the water is lower than normal.
Not so bad down here in Cornwall but one lake I often fish is down about 18 inches as it's only fed by a spring, the flow of which has reduced considerably. Thankfully it has no significant algae or excess weed and was dug with a fairly open main area so any breeze ripples the water nicely.
Another lake is still as normal as it's fed by part of a decent stream and the flow through it can be increased if needed. Carp have obviously been basking here on both lakes when it's sunny but all seem fine.
Two well designed lakes that have been maintained properly and also not too many are piling excess bait in (especially if they adhere to the rules ) so the water quality and oxygen levels should be good in both.
Interesting to see some areas exposed on the first lake though and it explains some takes and refusals when the bait is close but not accessible from their safe area. A lot can be learnt on a walk around when the water is lower than normal.
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Lilies are very nice to look at but i see many lakes where they are out of control and taking up a fair proportion of the surface area. This reduces the available surface area for wind ripple action and oxygen transfer.
They may help remove some nutrients but no better than marginal reeds or submerged plants.
Then the issue of snags and fish mouth damage.
A few whites, reds or pinks are very pretty if spaced well between the pegs or on the far margins, but large areas of nuphar lutea (yellow cabbage brandy bottle lilies) are a hazard and will grow in to 6ft depth of water.
Lilies are very nice to look at but i see many lakes where they are out of control and taking up a fair proportion of the surface area. This reduces the available surface area for wind ripple action and oxygen transfer.
They may help remove some nutrients but no better than marginal reeds or submerged plants.
Then the issue of snags and fish mouth damage.
A few whites, reds or pinks are very pretty if spaced well between the pegs or on the far margins, but large areas of nuphar lutea (yellow cabbage brandy bottle lilies) are a hazard and will grow in to 6ft depth of water.
In reply to Post #20
All water plants including reeds need managing. Cutting them back and removing decaying matter will help manage the nutrient levels and keep swims accessible and safe to fish. Same goes for Bankside trees.
All water plants including reeds need managing. Cutting them back and removing decaying matter will help manage the nutrient levels and keep swims accessible and safe to fish. Same goes for Bankside trees.
The 117 acre ressi five mins from me is really ,really low,along with Upper Tamar at 81 acres ,which feeds Bude ,Stratton etc is mega low,mind you Bude is sadly growing in size and people are saying the ressi can't cope now..
Place I know, I had to shut off the inflo ,due to pollution in the stream,luckily though there are several natural springs that keep this lake alive,in the process of removing lots and lots of Rhizomes,lily pads they look lovely ,but are now over the top...
Lake behind me,on the cliffs has dried up ,no fish now in evidence,and the village ponds have remained full ,except one ...
Place I know, I had to shut off the inflo ,due to pollution in the stream,luckily though there are several natural springs that keep this lake alive,in the process of removing lots and lots of Rhizomes,lily pads they look lovely ,but are now over the top...
Lake behind me,on the cliffs has dried up ,no fish now in evidence,and the village ponds have remained full ,except one ...
At last, about 3pm it was like stair rods coming
down, lasted about 2 hours then eased off a bit,
I'm glad I chose to come home, I don't mind fishing
in the rain but when its time to pack up
this was in east Devon, anyone else get wet?
down, lasted about 2 hours then eased off a bit,
I'm glad I chose to come home, I don't mind fishing
in the rain but when its time to pack up
this was in east Devon, anyone else get wet?
In reply to Post #23
Nope, just driving away from the pool when it started,indoors and unloaded when it poured.
Nope, just driving away from the pool when it started,indoors and unloaded when it poured.
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In reply to Post #1
Many lakes are down in depth, one club I belong to has closed off a few swims because of the distance down to the water which is good.
Up to the angler to assess the situation and decide if it's safe or not if the club hasn't done so.
Many lakes are down in depth, one club I belong to has closed off a few swims because of the distance down to the water which is good.
Up to the angler to assess the situation and decide if it's safe or not if the club hasn't done so.
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Yes exactly this on my new syndicate, most of it is only 2-3ft now, and trying to net fish is all but impossible in the shallow margins....once was enough, not been for weeks.
Most of the swims are still only 2ft 15yards out, desperate times, I fear for the stock tbh.
Yes exactly this on my new syndicate, most of it is only 2-3ft now, and trying to net fish is all but impossible in the shallow margins....once was enough, not been for weeks.
Most of the swims are still only 2ft 15yards out, desperate times, I fear for the stock tbh.
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The club or who ever runs the fishing should intervene. You can't rely on people to make the right decision, as most are utter morons. Take a water near me, it's a shallow lake and it's now very low - to the point that carp have been swimming around in the mud with their backs out of the water. Yet, people are still fishing it as the carp struggle to cope. The average carp 'angler' is not the most intelligent of creatures. I doubt I'll even wet a line until late September, given the state many waters are in down my way. Find something else to do, the carp have enough to deal with.
The club or who ever runs the fishing should intervene. You can't rely on people to make the right decision, as most are utter morons. Take a water near me, it's a shallow lake and it's now very low - to the point that carp have been swimming around in the mud with their backs out of the water. Yet, people are still fishing it as the carp struggle to cope. The average carp 'angler' is not the most intelligent of creatures. I doubt I'll even wet a line until late September, given the state many waters are in down my way. Find something else to do, the carp have enough to deal with.
In reply to Post #28
Anglers are inherently selfish and it should be down to responsible clubs and fishery managers to close waters.
Anglers are inherently selfish and it should be down to responsible clubs and fishery managers to close waters.
In reply to Post #29
True to a point - Although many anglers on here would buck that trend.
There are also those irresponsible and greedy lake owners who will be happy to take the money from anglers even when it would be safer (for the fish) not to.
I guess both of the selfish parties above will eventually come together...
True to a point - Although many anglers on here would buck that trend.
There are also those irresponsible and greedy lake owners who will be happy to take the money from anglers even when it would be safer (for the fish) not to.
I guess both of the selfish parties above will eventually come together...
In reply to Post #29
Yes, some are unable to be educated
Yes, some are unable to be educated
In reply to Post #29
But some fisheries, one day ticket water I know, have not taken any steps to reduce pressure on potentially distressed fish or bother to check on DI levels. I called the EA about one place last week - the fish were clearly struggling and there were a couple lying dead under some trees. Yet this place was open and one idiot was even casting to the tree where those dead fish were! I questioned the owner - he seemed to think it was normal for the 'odd fish' to die in hot temperatures and shallower water. Unreal. The EA shut them down, how's that for a result! I walked up there a few days ago and there's aerators now running in two of the shallower lakes. Then I look on FB... several *****s moaning about the place being closed as they want to fish there this weekend
But some fisheries, one day ticket water I know, have not taken any steps to reduce pressure on potentially distressed fish or bother to check on DI levels. I called the EA about one place last week - the fish were clearly struggling and there were a couple lying dead under some trees. Yet this place was open and one idiot was even casting to the tree where those dead fish were! I questioned the owner - he seemed to think it was normal for the 'odd fish' to die in hot temperatures and shallower water. Unreal. The EA shut them down, how's that for a result! I walked up there a few days ago and there's aerators now running in two of the shallower lakes. Then I look on FB... several *****s moaning about the place being closed as they want to fish there this weekend
So are many fisherys closed .
Iv not been fishing since france in july.
Been asked go little day water this weekend for day and not sure to bother or not . Did think bout the river as well but sure be same boat.
Been on there website open . Been on few other well known day fisherys websites all open no mention of lakes low closed etc.
My club waters cdaa have closed a few lakes .
So are most lakes still open near you .
Iv not been fishing since france in july.
Been asked go little day water this weekend for day and not sure to bother or not . Did think bout the river as well but sure be same boat.
Been on there website open . Been on few other well known day fisherys websites all open no mention of lakes low closed etc.
My club waters cdaa have closed a few lakes .
So are most lakes still open near you .
In reply to Post #33
This is where blue dye in the water makes all the difference
This is where blue dye in the water makes all the difference
In reply to Post #34
I went in end somwhere diffrent tho , went to sandwich fishery and they have got no problems at all evan tho just up road from my club waters cdaa what are mostly shut and fordwich 90% fish kill .
Spoke to the guy that runs it and he said every lake they got has got pumps and aerators running year round told him bout my club problems and he said they have had no probs at all ...
Some of there small run lakes where bit low but there main lake oddly was quite high on water level .
I went in end somwhere diffrent tho , went to sandwich fishery and they have got no problems at all evan tho just up road from my club waters cdaa what are mostly shut and fordwich 90% fish kill .
Spoke to the guy that runs it and he said every lake they got has got pumps and aerators running year round told him bout my club problems and he said they have had no probs at all ...
Some of there small run lakes where bit low but there main lake oddly was quite high on water level .
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