Hi all
I'm after a new set of waterproofs ( jacket and trousers) what do you all recommend
I'm after something that is not going to leak or sweat at all been thinking of going down the camping/hiking route as I have not found anything in the fishing market that is up to the job , also giving you plenty of room and that is easy to pack away ( not take to much room up )
Thanks
I'm after a new set of waterproofs ( jacket and trousers) what do you all recommend
I'm after something that is not going to leak or sweat at all been thinking of going down the camping/hiking route as I have not found anything in the fishing market that is up to the job , also giving you plenty of room and that is easy to pack away ( not take to much room up )
Thanks
In reply to Post #1
Berghaus gore-tex. Made for the worst the weather can throw at you in the mountains. Mine is faultless. If you're a bit more wealthy go Arc'Teryx.
Berghaus gore-tex. Made for the worst the weather can throw at you in the mountains. Mine is faultless. If you're a bit more wealthy go Arc'Teryx.
In reply to Post #1
Have you checked out the Aqua F12 torrent jacket and trousers.
Have you checked out the Aqua F12 torrent jacket and trousers.
Avoid buying from the fishing market if you can. It's nowhere near as good as the kit made for the outdoor industry.
For budget look at ex military - solid, cheap, high performance if you buy current issue MTP
Or look at regatta or Craghoppers, both very good quality and affordable. Also they do their stuff in a nice dark outdoors green.
As below, Berghaus is great, or montane, Patagonia, rab or mountain equipment. But you'll pay
Top whack and the colour schemes are more for mountains where folk want to be seen rather than blend in.
For budget look at ex military - solid, cheap, high performance if you buy current issue MTP
Or look at regatta or Craghoppers, both very good quality and affordable. Also they do their stuff in a nice dark outdoors green.
As below, Berghaus is great, or montane, Patagonia, rab or mountain equipment. But you'll pay
Top whack and the colour schemes are more for mountains where folk want to be seen rather than blend in.
when I was working we got issued with this make breathable cheap as chips waterproof does the job and a great price. Lightweight
LINKY POO
LINKY POO
In reply to Post #1
Patagonia Torrentshell 3L . . .Industrial Green
Saying that the carp taxed Korda Drycore are actually rather good IMO . . .light, comfy and good water resistance. Patagonia around the same money if you shop around . . .
Patagonia Torrentshell 3L . . .Industrial Green
Saying that the carp taxed Korda Drycore are actually rather good IMO . . .light, comfy and good water resistance. Patagonia around the same money if you shop around . . .
I'd say buy the army goretex as it's cheap and if you damage it you won't be left crying.
As great as goretex is, it's s4it once it looses it's beading up properties, of course you can retreat it. I've spent a fair few quid on expensive waterproofs, if you can cope with looking like an army dude, army kit is the way to go.
As great as goretex is, it's s4it once it looses it's beading up properties, of course you can retreat it. I've spent a fair few quid on expensive waterproofs, if you can cope with looking like an army dude, army kit is the way to go.
In reply to Post #1
Not got any myself but know a couple of people with Paramo kit for hiking and they swear by the stuff. Believe it doesn't rely on a membrane to provide it's waterproof-ness which makes it more breathable
I'd probably go for the good old German army flecktarn goretex though
Not got any myself but know a couple of people with Paramo kit for hiking and they swear by the stuff. Believe it doesn't rely on a membrane to provide it's waterproof-ness which makes it more breathable
I'd probably go for the good old German army flecktarn goretex though
wouldnt touch fishing branded crap if you paid me.
this is the top and bottoms i use, gonna cost you over a grand though.
used em all nothing comes close to these..
https://www.norrona.com/en-GB/products/recon/
this is the top and bottoms i use, gonna cost you over a grand though.
used em all nothing comes close to these..
https://www.norrona.com/en-GB/products/recon/
In reply to Post #9
How much. I take it these are for a box of 100 units 
How much. I take it these are for a box of 100 units
In reply to Post #1
Army Gortex for me mate, cheap and do a good job plus if you rip them, then you haven't payed a fortune
Army Gortex for me mate, cheap and do a good job plus if you rip them, then you haven't payed a fortune
In reply to Post #10
That stuff is gore-tex proshell which is the best in my opinion, have two motorcycle suits made from it which cost considerably more than that. For everyday outdoor rain wear I have rab jacket and trousers but they are purely a waterproof and windproof shell, in cold weather wear merino base layers and if really cold a down mid layer.
That stuff is gore-tex proshell which is the best in my opinion, have two motorcycle suits made from it which cost considerably more than that. For everyday outdoor rain wear I have rab jacket and trousers but they are purely a waterproof and windproof shell, in cold weather wear merino base layers and if really cold a down mid layer.
In reply to Post #9
Lol.
There's no discernible difference between that gear and say Sprayway or if you wanna push the boat out North Face. It's just silly. Okay, if you like nice things, seriously, go for it,. Like I said earlier, the problem with goretex or any other product that behaves the same is that once it doesn't bead up it's fooked, to the point where it actually starts getting wet due to the outer pours getting waterlogged.
Goretex is a fantastic product, but as I've said it has its drawbacks like all these things. Prolly the best there is is the gear that salty seaman wear, weighs a ton and isn't that practical, doesn't breath like Goretex yet is 100% waterproof. I've got a high end Harkila jacket and trousers it's a great bit of kit, though it has got it's drawbacks. Normal British Army is the way to go.
Lol.
There's no discernible difference between that gear and say Sprayway or if you wanna push the boat out North Face. It's just silly. Okay, if you like nice things, seriously, go for it,. Like I said earlier, the problem with goretex or any other product that behaves the same is that once it doesn't bead up it's fooked, to the point where it actually starts getting wet due to the outer pours getting waterlogged.
Goretex is a fantastic product, but as I've said it has its drawbacks like all these things. Prolly the best there is is the gear that salty seaman wear, weighs a ton and isn't that practical, doesn't breath like Goretex yet is 100% waterproof. I've got a high end Harkila jacket and trousers it's a great bit of kit, though it has got it's drawbacks. Normal British Army is the way to go.
In reply to Post #12
I'm not knocking the product, it's just I've never seen waterproof top and bottoms for over £1000. Just seems crazy money to me. I'd be frightened to wear it out in case something happened to it.
I'm not knocking the product, it's just I've never seen waterproof top and bottoms for over £1000. Just seems crazy money to me. I'd be frightened to wear it out in case something happened to it.
I have Soldier 95 army Gore-tex jacket and trousers that I got brand new years ago but hardly ever wear it as I
also have German Army Flectarn
that is IMHO far superior with the built in braces and pockets on the jacket had it years
I only wash it with pure soap (Wilco) this removes any dirt/mud and restores the beading properties occasionally I use a Grangers Performance Repel Spray this is a brilliant DWR product
also have German Army Flectarn
that is IMHO far superior with the built in braces and pockets on the jacket had it years
I only wash it with pure soap (Wilco) this removes any dirt/mud and restores the beading properties occasionally I use a Grangers Performance Repel Spray this is a brilliant DWR product
The Harkila stuff is top quality out in it at the wknd on a shoot extremely comfortably & no sweating
In reply to Post #15
For the money, I don't think you can beat the army gear, cheap as chips and if you mangle any of it, they're cheap to replace👌
Coincidentally, the new MTP army waterproofs come in a bib and brace version. Never fancied the German stuff to be honest.
For the money, I don't think you can beat the army gear, cheap as chips and if you mangle any of it, they're cheap to replace👌
Coincidentally, the new MTP army waterproofs come in a bib and brace version. Never fancied the German stuff to be honest.
I use this package to keep my Gore-Tex clothing in top condition and think its brilliant value
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In reply to Post #14
I'm not defending it as the price is high and you could get halkon hunt made to measure gore-tex for that money which is very good stuff.
I'm not defending it as the price is high and you could get halkon hunt made to measure gore-tex for that money which is very good stuff.
In reply to Post #14
I've got Arcteryx Goretex Pro trousers . . .but I use them for skiing, not fishing. Goretex Pro is a brilliant in terms of protection vs weight vs breathability etc, albeit it is 'noisy' and crinkly / stiff until worn in for a bit. Would argue that its also OTT for fishing, and like all breathable membrane kit will soon wet out when covered in goo / slime / oils / boilie crumb etc.
Must admit however that Norrona Recon kit has given me a mild boner . . .
I've got Arcteryx Goretex Pro trousers . . .but I use them for skiing, not fishing. Goretex Pro is a brilliant in terms of protection vs weight vs breathability etc, albeit it is 'noisy' and crinkly / stiff until worn in for a bit. Would argue that its also OTT for fishing, and like all breathable membrane kit will soon wet out when covered in goo / slime / oils / boilie crumb etc.
Must admit however that Norrona Recon kit has given me a mild boner . . .
In reply to Post #18
Thanks Gerry, got a coat I really need to sort out so will give it a try
Thanks Gerry, got a coat I really need to sort out so will give it a try
Sorry to change the topic but kind of on the right topic I suppose, want to re proof my bivvy what's the best stuff to do it lads? I want to do it before the winter really hits
In reply to Post #22
Clean off sh*te / Big can of Fabsil Gold in a 5l pressure sprayer / apply / leave to dry
Clean off sh*te / Big can of Fabsil Gold in a 5l pressure sprayer / apply / leave to dry
Agree with Belch, Fabsil is the stuff you want. Probably find the standard stuff is all you need plus this has the UV protection, Gold is a more concentrated formula for more extreme conditions but doesn't have the UV protection. If your bivvy is made from a breathable material then go Gold as well.
In reply to Post #24
Used Grainger's and the Nikwax stuff which I believe is PTFE based (wood glue based) and found them both to be pretty poor, after a while the water soaks in
Fabsil stuff is more repellent, beads off and lasts much longer though not as breathable
Final frontier for man, a truly waterproof coat. It's out there, it's what trawler men wear, solid PVC and multi layers, trouble is, do anything over activ and you are soaked with perspiration from the inside
Gortex, Pro shell, Event, one of the most breathable, I have had most over the years, once the original repellent wears off they all need re-treating and this effects their breath ability when doing active things, personally I don't think there is an ideal treatment because they all have their pros and cons. The idea of gortex is that the membrane keeps out the water, the shell of the material still gets soaked if it is not treated, block the breathability and the moisture stays within!
A tip from me with Gortex etc. If your jacket shell is getting soaked it s not really a problem, the membrane is the protection. You can spray it to prevent this but you will block the breathability. If you are getting water inside your Gortex you have either emitted too much perspiration because the breathability has been blocked (fabsil) or the Gortex is knackered and it's time for the bin or you are far too active and working beyond the material breathability capability
Used Grainger's and the Nikwax stuff which I believe is PTFE based (wood glue based) and found them both to be pretty poor, after a while the water soaks in
Fabsil stuff is more repellent, beads off and lasts much longer though not as breathable
Final frontier for man, a truly waterproof coat. It's out there, it's what trawler men wear, solid PVC and multi layers, trouble is, do anything over activ and you are soaked with perspiration from the inside
Gortex, Pro shell, Event, one of the most breathable, I have had most over the years, once the original repellent wears off they all need re-treating and this effects their breath ability when doing active things, personally I don't think there is an ideal treatment because they all have their pros and cons. The idea of gortex is that the membrane keeps out the water, the shell of the material still gets soaked if it is not treated, block the breathability and the moisture stays within!
A tip from me with Gortex etc. If your jacket shell is getting soaked it s not really a problem, the membrane is the protection. You can spray it to prevent this but you will block the breathability. If you are getting water inside your Gortex you have either emitted too much perspiration because the breathability has been blocked (fabsil) or the Gortex is knackered and it's time for the bin or you are far too active and working beyond the material breathability capability
In reply to Post #25
agree with Scozza . . .
with Goretex 'regular' washing / tumble drying is the trick. Unfortunately nothing will compete with the original factory DWR coating applied (in terms of water repellency) so most tend not to wash as the fear of depleting this further on an expensive item worries them . . .however removing sweat dirt and general sh*te retains the membranes effectiveness which means the product will actually last longer. This is why (perhaps for fishing at any rate where we generally get covered in sh*te during wet muddy conditions) Goretex can be counterproductive . . .how many times a season do people wash their kit . . ?
agree with Scozza . . .
with Goretex 'regular' washing / tumble drying is the trick. Unfortunately nothing will compete with the original factory DWR coating applied (in terms of water repellency) so most tend not to wash as the fear of depleting this further on an expensive item worries them . . .however removing sweat dirt and general sh*te retains the membranes effectiveness which means the product will actually last longer. This is why (perhaps for fishing at any rate where we generally get covered in sh*te during wet muddy conditions) Goretex can be counterproductive . . .how many times a season do people wash their kit . . ?
In reply to Post #26
Just found this, may be interesting for some? all about the membrane
All about the membrane
The outer treatable shell covers the membrane, how you treat it effects the breathability
Just found this, may be interesting for some? all about the membrane
All about the membrane
The outer treatable shell covers the membrane, how you treat it effects the breathability
Yeah proshell is a bit heavy for fishing. Goretex relies on you working hard and getting hot as you need to build pressure inside the jacket for it to breath. Event fabric relies on the temp and pressure on the outside of the jacket to literally pull the moisture through the jacket.. not exactly the right thing for angling.
Like most have said the best outer wear for angling is probably the army issue stuff. You don't need a £600 hardshell for sitting around the lake, those are for heavy mountain use and to be fair look a little silly on someone sat round a lake but each to their own.
Like most have said the best outer wear for angling is probably the army issue stuff. You don't need a £600 hardshell for sitting around the lake, those are for heavy mountain use and to be fair look a little silly on someone sat round a lake but each to their own.
In reply to Post #26
I would say that is a pretty good summary Belch
Sat around in the rain, non active you won't go far wrong with PVC, for me unless you are fishing extremely light anybody who sits out in the rain with the amount of decent shelters around these days is a fool
I go for the army Gortex, cheap as chips and virtually disposable, good coat of fabsil on the shell and it's as good at it gets for me, Chuck it on when I get a fish, do the business, take it off, give it a shake, back under the shelter, job done, as a PVC jacket would, just wouldn't look cool in Fluoro yellow
I would say that is a pretty good summary Belch
Sat around in the rain, non active you won't go far wrong with PVC, for me unless you are fishing extremely light anybody who sits out in the rain with the amount of decent shelters around these days is a fool
I go for the army Gortex, cheap as chips and virtually disposable, good coat of fabsil on the shell and it's as good at it gets for me, Chuck it on when I get a fish, do the business, take it off, give it a shake, back under the shelter, job done, as a PVC jacket would, just wouldn't look cool in Fluoro yellow
In reply to Post #28
So true
So true
In reply to Post #29
. . .I use Fabsil Gold on my fishing outerwear . . .much better than Nikwax / current Grangers Repel as breathability when sitting on ones arse is not such an issue! The Drykore kit will soon be getting a good dose of it come spring.
. . .I use Fabsil Gold on my fishing outerwear . . .much better than Nikwax / current Grangers Repel as breathability when sitting on ones arse is not such an issue! The Drykore kit will soon be getting a good dose of it come spring.
In reply to Post #31
I have been using Grangers waterproofing since the Mesowax days
and a few years ago I spoke to a very helpful guy at Grangers Tech dept and discussed their Fabsil range he explained that most problems are caused simply by DIRT clogging and stopping the beading properties and it wets out but simply cleaning them with A universal cleaner think its renamed now called Grangers Fabsil Tent & Gear Cleaner? with restore perfect performance
I asked him about Fabsil Gold ? and he said yes great on Gor-Tex but a complete waste of money on a normal tent or poly coated material as it would do NOTHING that the cheaper standard Fabsil would do
I have used in the past the Nikwax WPR spray with great results on my ex army Gortex
but this year tried the Grangers Repel plus Spray and the EXCELLENT beading was very noticeable
I have bivvies that are over 8 year old and NEVER been reproofed or needed it
they have however been washed with clean warm to hot water and soft dustpan brush and a sponge with some Wilco pure soap liquid for stubborn birds poo or tree sap
I have been using Grangers waterproofing since the Mesowax days
and a few years ago I spoke to a very helpful guy at Grangers Tech dept and discussed their Fabsil range he explained that most problems are caused simply by DIRT clogging and stopping the beading properties and it wets out but simply cleaning them with A universal cleaner think its renamed now called Grangers Fabsil Tent & Gear Cleaner? with restore perfect performance
I asked him about Fabsil Gold ? and he said yes great on Gor-Tex but a complete waste of money on a normal tent or poly coated material as it would do NOTHING that the cheaper standard Fabsil would do
I have used in the past the Nikwax WPR spray with great results on my ex army Gortex
but this year tried the Grangers Repel plus Spray and the EXCELLENT beading was very noticeable
I have bivvies that are over 8 year old and NEVER been reproofed or needed it
they have however been washed with clean warm to hot water and soft dustpan brush and a sponge with some Wilco pure soap liquid for stubborn birds poo or tree sap
In reply to Post #32
Washing is def the first solution above all reproofing . . .don't agree re Grangers Repel, the old Grangers XT stuff with nasty flurocarbons was waaay better (albeit damaging to the universe apparently). Currently down to my last bottle . . .
Washing is def the first solution above all reproofing . . .don't agree re Grangers Repel, the old Grangers XT stuff with nasty flurocarbons was waaay better (albeit damaging to the universe apparently). Currently down to my last bottle . . .
In reply to Post #32
It's funny you're saying all of that Jerry, none of which I doubt, thing is, I re-proofed an Aqua M3 Compact with the Fabsil gold and didn't think much of it. I did go through a thorough cleaning process with the correct gear and all looked good, just didn't work that great, plus it made the biv noticeably heavier. Maybe I goofed something up?
Used the Trakker re-proofing kit recently on my Pioneer, that came out really well and I'm very happy with the results.
I've never had great results re-proofing Goretex, always failed miserably on that front, so much so I'm just inclined to send my gear off and have a company sort it out. Wanna get my Harkila Pro Hunter sorted at some point 🙂
It's funny you're saying all of that Jerry, none of which I doubt, thing is, I re-proofed an Aqua M3 Compact with the Fabsil gold and didn't think much of it. I did go through a thorough cleaning process with the correct gear and all looked good, just didn't work that great, plus it made the biv noticeably heavier. Maybe I goofed something up?
Used the Trakker re-proofing kit recently on my Pioneer, that came out really well and I'm very happy with the results.
I've never had great results re-proofing Goretex, always failed miserably on that front, so much so I'm just inclined to send my gear off and have a company sort it out. Wanna get my Harkila Pro Hunter sorted at some point 🙂
In reply to Post #29
Assume the op wanted to be mobile as said light weight and not bulky, the old oilskins the boatman wear are dreadfully on land if moving around as they drench you from inside even though totally waterproof and I still have a set of guy cotton ones. Still think the best stuff for cleaning and restoring the dwr coating to gore-tex is storm which is a two pack wash and proofer and recommended by gore-tex. One of my bike suits is five years old with over sixty thousand miles use and still totally waterproof. My rab e-vent tens years and still waterproof. Fishing wise I don't need any technical kit as I don't sit out in the rain or cold wind, just use a brolly.
Assume the op wanted to be mobile as said light weight and not bulky, the old oilskins the boatman wear are dreadfully on land if moving around as they drench you from inside even though totally waterproof and I still have a set of guy cotton ones. Still think the best stuff for cleaning and restoring the dwr coating to gore-tex is storm which is a two pack wash and proofer and recommended by gore-tex. One of my bike suits is five years old with over sixty thousand miles use and still totally waterproof. My rab e-vent tens years and still waterproof. Fishing wise I don't need any technical kit as I don't sit out in the rain or cold wind, just use a brolly.
In reply to Post #34
did you paintbrush / dawb it on . .? Better with a pressure sprayer - much finer, more even application and less drippage / sorting out runs with a sponge etc to deal with . .
did you paintbrush / dawb it on . .? Better with a pressure sprayer - much finer, more even application and less drippage / sorting out runs with a sponge etc to deal with . .
In reply to Post #35
Tried a PVC one myself, poor
Will have a look at the storm, stuff Goose, never hear of it.
Currently have a Rab eVent, had it for around 5 years, never let me down, vey thick shell too, quality. Replaced a Berghaus Pro Shell with it
Tried a PVC one myself, poor
Will have a look at the storm, stuff Goose, never hear of it.
Currently have a Rab eVent, had it for around 5 years, never let me down, vey thick shell too, quality. Replaced a Berghaus Pro Shell with it
In reply to Post #31
Has anyone tried some of this “nano coating” on bivvy/clothing?
Like this https://nanodrops.co.uk/catalog/index.html#!/products/fabric-waterproof-spray-200-ml
Has anyone tried some of this “nano coating” on bivvy/clothing?
Like this https://nanodrops.co.uk/catalog/index.html#!/products/fabric-waterproof-spray-200-ml
In reply to Post #36
To be honest Belch, I really can't remember mate. If others are having positive results, must be me.
To be honest Belch, I really can't remember mate. If others are having positive results, must be me.
In reply to Post #34
Yeah totally agree, I've used Gold over the years and it's stayed water tight, but I wouldn't say its kept water beading off of it all that great tbh. Also done my Pioneer and Tempest with the trakker stuff last month. And it looks feels quite good. But I've not used it in the rain yet.
Yeah totally agree, I've used Gold over the years and it's stayed water tight, but I wouldn't say its kept water beading off of it all that great tbh. Also done my Pioneer and Tempest with the trakker stuff last month. And it looks feels quite good. But I've not used it in the rain yet.
In reply to Post #1
I ended up getting British MTP Waterproof jacket and trousers
jacket link
trousers link.
They have been tested a few times this year😉 and I can honestly say no complaints, no leaks.
I ended up getting British MTP Waterproof jacket and trousers
jacket link
trousers link.
They have been tested a few times this year😉 and I can honestly say no complaints, no leaks.
In reply to Post #34
the important thing with re-proofing Goretex is HEAT|!
if you use nikwax or Grangers /Fabsil wash and proofers you need to tumble dry it on a low heat or if dont have a tumble drier then you hang it to dry then go over it with a hair dryer get it nice and warm it make a huge difference to the beading properties I
I even do it with the spray on type not sure if its important with that though but makes me feel happy and only takes 10 mins
the important thing with re-proofing Goretex is HEAT|!
if you use nikwax or Grangers /Fabsil wash and proofers you need to tumble dry it on a low heat or if dont have a tumble drier then you hang it to dry then go over it with a hair dryer get it nice and warm it make a huge difference to the beading properties I
I even do it with the spray on type not sure if its important with that though but makes me feel happy and only takes 10 mins
Just been reading through this thread guys and thinking of going the army goretex route. I'm 6ft 4inch tall so wondered where people get their military jackets and trousers from.
I'll be using the waterproof jacket and trousers for both fishing and walking the mutt (he gets walked for around 2 hours each day). Am I better off getting something that's insulated for winter use and a lighter jacket for summer or just a thinner jacket for all year round and adding layers fir winter use.
I was originally looking at a couple of the fishing brands (Trakker, Prologic, Korda and Aqua) but I've seen a few people have advised staying away from the fishing brands as apparently they aren't as good as they should.
I'll be using the waterproof jacket and trousers for both fishing and walking the mutt (he gets walked for around 2 hours each day). Am I better off getting something that's insulated for winter use and a lighter jacket for summer or just a thinner jacket for all year round and adding layers fir winter use.
I was originally looking at a couple of the fishing brands (Trakker, Prologic, Korda and Aqua) but I've seen a few people have advised staying away from the fishing brands as apparently they aren't as good as they should.
In reply to Post #43
A breathable waterproof garment that remains waterproof does not exist. I've finally found a material from Filson and dressed it to form my own, and better version, of tin cloth. It's as good as it gets I'm afraid.
A breathable waterproof garment that remains waterproof does not exist. I've finally found a material from Filson and dressed it to form my own, and better version, of tin cloth. It's as good as it gets I'm afraid.
I spent a lot of time fishing from a boat . After many failures , some of which have been mentioned already the winners for me were a Swazi smock and bib and brace. Not cheap but definitely a buy once option. Won't keep you warm but waterproofs are a one function item of clothing.
In reply to Post #41
Ive had the same set for nearly 6 years, bought them second hand off of here.
They are still totally waterproof and I would highly recommend them.
Ive had the same set for nearly 6 years, bought them second hand off of here.
They are still totally waterproof and I would highly recommend them.
In reply to Post #43
Yes mate a thin waterproof layer for all year round use
I've purchased lots of garments over the years hoping
that someone could crack it
Currently use snugpak and army softies with German goretex
Yes mate a thin waterproof layer for all year round use
I've purchased lots of garments over the years hoping
that someone could crack it
Currently use snugpak and army softies with German goretex
In reply to Post #46
So, I lost the army gore tex over trousers I mentioned below last month and am after a new set.
They seem to be sold out everywhere....
So, am looking for a new set - doesn't have to be green - just looking for a very good pair of waterproof trousers that I can wear not just for fishing but working also.
Any suggestions?
thanks in advance - MH.
So, I lost the army gore tex over trousers I mentioned below last month and am after a new set.
They seem to be sold out everywhere....
So, am looking for a new set - doesn't have to be green - just looking for a very good pair of waterproof trousers that I can wear not just for fishing but working also.
Any suggestions?
thanks in advance - MH.
In reply to Post #48
Military 1st?
Military 1st?
In reply to Post #4
You're wrong mate... yes, when it comes to carp and general coarse fishing, the tackle companies are pedalling some very dire stuff. Even the 'better' jackets and bottoms are only 10k rated. You really want a minimum of 20k and higher is Gortex or similar materials. By the way, Gortex isn't the be all and end all, it can still wet out and isn't mega durable on the cheaper clothing that uses it. Items aimed at trekking and what not? Better than fishing branded, but still not brilliant.
Back to fishing branded - look to the game fishing side of it. There are three companies I have gear from that offer fishing clothing that is designed for the job and 100% waterproof... Vision, Simms and Grundens. I have two Vision jackets that I use on the bank and in the boat, neither are Gortex, instead they are 3 or 4 layer laminates - I have never got wet, ever. Even fishing in the boat over in Ireland, with heavy rain all day - bone dry. I have a couple of Simms bibs and they are mega quality, again, never got wet wearing them, ever. One is unlined and the other has a thermal lining for winter. These are designed for fishing, not walking the dog or climbing a hill. Grundens fishing clothing is also awesome, I have a couple of their Gortex items I use when carp fishing, also two of their insulated jackets and use their deck boots a lot - not just in the boat, I also use on the bank, on super wet days - the only way to get wet feet wearing those is to submerge them! Best places to buy all this are the game fishing retailers and most of the larger EU retailers, especially in Sweden and Germany.
You're wrong mate... yes, when it comes to carp and general coarse fishing, the tackle companies are pedalling some very dire stuff. Even the 'better' jackets and bottoms are only 10k rated. You really want a minimum of 20k and higher is Gortex or similar materials. By the way, Gortex isn't the be all and end all, it can still wet out and isn't mega durable on the cheaper clothing that uses it. Items aimed at trekking and what not? Better than fishing branded, but still not brilliant.
Back to fishing branded - look to the game fishing side of it. There are three companies I have gear from that offer fishing clothing that is designed for the job and 100% waterproof... Vision, Simms and Grundens. I have two Vision jackets that I use on the bank and in the boat, neither are Gortex, instead they are 3 or 4 layer laminates - I have never got wet, ever. Even fishing in the boat over in Ireland, with heavy rain all day - bone dry. I have a couple of Simms bibs and they are mega quality, again, never got wet wearing them, ever. One is unlined and the other has a thermal lining for winter. These are designed for fishing, not walking the dog or climbing a hill. Grundens fishing clothing is also awesome, I have a couple of their Gortex items I use when carp fishing, also two of their insulated jackets and use their deck boots a lot - not just in the boat, I also use on the bank, on super wet days - the only way to get wet feet wearing those is to submerge them! Best places to buy all this are the game fishing retailers and most of the larger EU retailers, especially in Sweden and Germany.
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Also there are different levels of gore-tex, 3 layer Pro I believe is the best, I've riden a motorcycle in eight hours of heavy rain through flooded road coming back from Europe and stayed dry with it driving in at upto eithy mph so you will never put fishing water proofs through anything like that. The best fishing waterproofs I've ever seen are made to measure gore-tex 3 layer helicon hunt, expensive but not as much as the bike stuff and will last many years if looked after properly.
Also there are different levels of gore-tex, 3 layer Pro I believe is the best, I've riden a motorcycle in eight hours of heavy rain through flooded road coming back from Europe and stayed dry with it driving in at upto eithy mph so you will never put fishing water proofs through anything like that. The best fishing waterproofs I've ever seen are made to measure gore-tex 3 layer helicon hunt, expensive but not as much as the bike stuff and will last many years if looked after properly.
Buy from an outdoor pursuits shop if your after proper waterproof clothing, not rip off carp tax junk.
Have a look at the US, Dutch Marines military goretex gear. It's bang on mate and will last forever.
Have a look at the US, Dutch Marines military goretex gear. It's bang on mate and will last forever.
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