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Mozzies ! (114 posts / 11,390 views)
Currymuncher
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Post #1 1 Jun 2021 14:46
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Hi, any predictions on how much if a pest they'll be this year , just wondered if the cold spring would have affected them. I react badly to their bites so im prepping up with sprays etc.
framey framey
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Post #2 1 Jun 2021 14:51
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Had a nip already this year
Johnnyboy28 Johnnyboy28
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Post #3 1 Jun 2021 15:37
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try Mosi guard Roll on
never get bitten when i wear it
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #4 1 Jun 2021 16:07
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Coils in brass container hanging outside bivvy door . . .creates an invisible forcefield against all flying blighters . . .
Just be careful if the wind changes tho - you can wake up with a headache if inhaling fumes all night . . .
carpbadger carpbadger
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Post #5 1 Jun 2021 16:16
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In reply to Post #1
life systems best mozzie repellant
Currymuncher
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Post #6 1 Jun 2021 16:29
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I normally fish rivers without a bivvy so coils aren't much use to me , just wanted to sound out if this years curse would be any different to previous years
Greg62 Greg62
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Post #7 1 Jun 2021 16:30
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Im exactly the same and always have been
Then i went to Thailand and got proper done
I was due to go back out there a few months later and was advised by hotel staff when i go back take Vitamin B12 for 2 weeks before we go back there 1 per day.
I did so and never got touched once, but you must keep taking them every day through summer
Ive actually been bitten already this year so now im back on them and wont stop until Autumn.
Ive been hospitalised through being bitten by them before aswell
Ive done all the sprays going including pure Deet used by my nephew in Afghanistan and the little f##kers have still done me
Apparently they dont like the yeast that the B12 releases
Hope this helps you and any others that are bad when bitten by the little sh#ts
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #8 1 Jun 2021 16:43
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Thailand ,Philippines, France, Spain, Greece,Germany, Holland, Belgium,

are countries where I did not get bitten by Mozzies while friends around me got bitten to hell !
why ??
Cos I used 2 things Incognito mozzie repellent (you need to reapply it after 6 hours )

AND mozzie coils BUT NOT THE DANGEROUS CRAP SOLD HERE !!! you need coils based on Geranium oil get mine from France they work superbly and wont give you head aches etc like the rubbish sold here

EDIT JUST FOUND OUT VAPONA ANTI WASP & MOSQUITO COIL GERANIUM PERFUME are available here


cheapest place I found for Incognito products LINKY POO

Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #9 1 Jun 2021 18:31
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. . stick the coil holder on a bankstick if fishing out in the open or under a brolly . . .they still work and you'll be unlikely to get bitten by any flying vampire within a 10ft radius . . .
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #10 1 Jun 2021 18:35
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In reply to Post #8
Link to Geranium coils please Gerry?

In the meantime see here - Incognito products

Wonder if the room refresher would work as a non burning option in the bivvy?
Canalcarper71 Canalcarper71
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Post #11 1 Jun 2021 18:35
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I remember fishing Sutton park in Midlands for the bream and tench,watching a quiver type all night with a starlight on the tip Me and my mate must have been around 18 so over 30 years ago and we set up in the swampy type swims,we had the crawling over us you could feel them even with hoodies and the ties pulled right up over our faces it was horrible,still caught though even though we looked like we had a bad cast of spots.
Much better now in terms of what can be used,I'm sure Gardner used to do a type of repellent a friend had one when I lived in Southampton really good not sure they are still available.
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #12 1 Jun 2021 19:01
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In reply to Post #9
Yes that works, I use jungle formula in spray , factor 4 the strongest, can get from chemist etc, very good, get the factor 3 or 4 , not the 1 or 2 strength, always works for me.
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #13 1 Jun 2021 19:07
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I see your link but did you see mine I posted below ?
the cheapest place not h&b !!!!!
HERE CHECK THIS OUT LINKY POO
When I fished in Thailand I bought the soap and the shampoo and of course the spray worked fantastic didnt get bitten only trouble was on the 1st day when ants stung my feet quick spray of Incognito and no further problems
Hitman Hitman
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Post #14 1 Jun 2021 19:13
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No coils in your link Gerry
audiguypaul audiguypaul
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Post #15 1 Jun 2021 19:19
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These are the geranium ones i use, not it stock here but gives you an idea. I buy them from ELeClerc every time i go to France and make sure i have a large supply.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/VAPONA-ANTI-MOSQUITO-GERANIUM-PERFUME/dp/B00KBVIAXC
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #16 1 Jun 2021 19:47
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In reply to Post #14
no the link was for the Incognito range mate but google throws up a few places
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #17 1 Jun 2021 21:20
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Found this - 99p Coils

Delivery is expensive - not sure if its dodgy?

Think I'm going to order the room freshener thingy whatsit and see if it works 'en bivvy' . . .
JasonM JasonM
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Post #18 1 Jun 2021 21:29
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We've had plenty of wet weather the last few weeks the perfect breeding ground alas.

Coils are great though I would suggest something you apply directly to your skin with at least 50% deet content. I use the jungle formula level 4 (maximum) roll on - though you need to carefully apply to all exposed skin and repeat after 4 hours.

Life systems edition 50 is good as well, 50% deet which yes seems to be the magic number.

Also look at the clothing you wear when the are particularly bad they will bite through your clothes. Craghoppers nosilife brand is worth investing in - they are fairly cheap but effective.
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #19 1 Jun 2021 22:30
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In reply to Post #18
. . .I used to have nosilife t-shirts but doesn't the impregnated layer damage carp mucus levels?
shockleader shockleader
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Post #20 1 Jun 2021 22:31
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In reply to Post #18
In the UK I always have a shower before I go fishing and then apply skin so soft from head to toe. I then use a product called Smidge once on the bank and keep a mozzie lamp next to me that attracts and kills them. This Usually does the trick.

In Europe I've found some mozzies will only be repelled by something with a high deet content. The life systems one is good, but I'm convinced it's not good for your health.

I've watched tiger mozzies land on my arm straight after applying skin so soft and bite while it's still wet!!

I tried Incognito but got bitten badly first time out with it.
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #21 2 Jun 2021 11:02
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In reply to Post #19
I thought the Nosilife was a material they could not bite thru ?

and here is AN INDEPENDENT review worth reading LINKY POO
Panander Panander
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Post #22 2 Jun 2021 11:57
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In reply to Post #8
I have to agree with Gerry regarding Incognito - it is excellent. Been using it a couple of years and it never fails.
I also use a Thermacell device which is also superb in a small area - like a bivvy say. I don't use the Thermacell refills as they cost a bomb but use other replacement mats from ebay. The gas bottles I have modded also to make the refillable from a gas lighter refill can.

Skin so Soft is effective against midges but not against mosquitos btw.
yonny yonny
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Post #23 2 Jun 2021 12:48
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I bought a load of the Incognito stuff for a trip to Cuba. I got eaten alive.
The Avon stuff works for me.
Different options work for different people. I was told it had something to do with blood type, not sure if it's true.
ip100 ip100
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Post #24 2 Jun 2021 12:53
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I've been mauled wearing Incognito too. The Avon stuff works for some and not others too. It's a case of trying a few out to see what works for you. Eating garlic helps apparently
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #25 2 Jun 2021 13:04
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the only important thing with Incognito is you HAVE to reapply it after 6 hours a mistake a pal made when he told me he was getting bitten in the afternoon after that he started topping it up after the 6 hours and no more bites
just saying
but as some people have said some things seen not to work on some people ?

for many years Avon skin so soft worked for me very well on Mozzies and scottish midges then dont know if they changed the ingredients but it suddenly seemed to stop working on mozzies ?
ip100 ip100
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Post #26 2 Jun 2021 13:14
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Think that's the same with all repellent Gerry, re apply regularly.
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #27 2 Jun 2021 15:28
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Lifesytems 50 works for me . . .have to be really careful not to get it on your finger tips tho so apply it like perfume on your wrists . . .rub it into my hair / everywhere but mainly ankles / arms & neck.

Still rate poisonous coils . . .they create a forcefield IMHO
kid kid
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Post #28 2 Jun 2021 16:24
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These are meant to be good watched some vids on youtube and i'm sure Adam penning talked about it last year

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermacell-Backpacker-Repeller-Insect-Multi/dp/B07C79D1MN/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=thermacell&qid=1622647408&sr=8-6
audiguypaul audiguypaul
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Post #29 2 Jun 2021 17:48
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Anyone know if there is a liquid you can apply to the lifesystem inserts to make them reusable.
walker-baits
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Post #30 2 Jun 2021 18:06
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Avon (skin so soft) works well
SPINBOWLER SPINBOWLER
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Post #31 2 Jun 2021 22:55
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Not for everyone apparently.
Baza1075
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Post #32 2 Jun 2021 23:00
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A place I lived at some time ago was terrible for mozzies. One of the locals put me onto brewers yeast tablets. Apparently you need to take it well in advance. The second year I started in February and come summer I got zero bites compared to maybe half a dozen every night the year before. I still use them now if I plan to fish a mozzie lake that year.
Cowdrey9
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Post #33 3 Jun 2021 11:25
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snapper1 snapper1
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Post #34 3 Jun 2021 11:39
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Run that by me again
Baitman Baitman
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Post #35 3 Jun 2021 11:42
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I use the incognito pump spray and find it great for 95% of the time.
On the odd occasion i have had to resort to the 50% deet pump sprays from jungle formula or boots.
I prefer not to use the deet unless absolutely necessary as i have had it melt various bits of plastic, including my cheapo easy reader glasses.
LondonCarper107 LondonCarper107
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Post #36 3 Jun 2021 11:55
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Already being a pest atm, they're bloody everywhere!
JasonM JasonM
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Post #37 3 Jun 2021 12:45
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In reply to Post #19
Never heard that one before.....probably us catching them does more damage though let's not go down there....

Regarding deet content if your talk to folk who live in countries where malaria is a risk nothing less than 50%

I've used Avon skin so soft not worked for me.

Some lucky folk don't get a reaction though I do, netherless they are still getting bitten just lucky that it happens in this continent and not one with malaria etc.

What deet does to plastics is irrelevant it's not representative of our skin.
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #38 3 Jun 2021 12:57
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. . .not sure about the current nosilife products but I distinctly remember getting slated on a Fishingwarehouse thread back in the day for wearing Craghoppers anti-mosi t-shirts (which worked well by the way). . .however it transpired they were def impregnated with some kind of anti carp chemicals so I ditched them. . .!
yonny yonny
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Post #39 3 Jun 2021 12:59
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I'd say it's relevant when it melts the shades on your boat race and bleaches the colour out of your clothes. Savage stuff. But no doubt effective.
JasonM JasonM
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Post #40 3 Jun 2021 13:10
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No worries though It's on my skin a lot longer than it would be the carp and I've never had a problem.

If you look on the web the products are advertised for activities like fishing .

I had a good search on google, can't see anything so I'm just going to treat it as hearsay keep calm and carry on.
JasonM JasonM
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Post #41 3 Jun 2021 13:12
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In reply to Post #39
Look what happens to plastics overtime in the sun.

Plastics don't have any regeneration capabilities like living tissue so I'll keep using it thanks.

Great stuff I'd say 😀
yonny yonny
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Post #42 3 Jun 2021 13:42
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Hey if it works for you carry on mate. I also get a savage reaction to bites so completely understand!
ip100 ip100
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Post #43 3 Jun 2021 13:45
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In reply to Post #40
Comparing your skin to a carps skin and mucus makes no sense at all.
JasonM JasonM
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Post #44 3 Jun 2021 14:14
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We could go round and round here but let's face it “we” do more harm to the carp than any product agreed ?

Please educate me in how a product like nosilife if that's what your referring to would have any more effect than any other item of clothing - I would like to understand.
JasonM JasonM
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Post #45 3 Jun 2021 14:24
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Apologies to the thread creator for going off topic though i think we answered your questions posed.
yonny yonny
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Post #46 3 Jun 2021 14:27
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I think the topic of predictions on how much of a pest mozzies'll be this year was a little weak anyway tbf
ip100 ip100
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Post #47 3 Jun 2021 14:39
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I have no idea ,not being a scientist lol. Comparing humans to animals is daft, it makes no sense. So being blasé saying "it does my skin no harm so...." Makes no sense, and could be dangerous. A hook in the lip could cause them a bit of pain for a short while, who knows , but using something which can remove the protective slime from their skin and possibly more could do a hell of a lot more harm in the long run.
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #48 3 Jun 2021 15:01
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In reply to Post #38
According to google
The Craghoppers NosiLife collection
uses a material through which an insect repellent fibre is woven. The insect protection is a type of Permethrin which is a synthetic pyrethroid,

and the antimicrobial effect comes from an ingredient often used in hand wash and other skin care products
JasonM JasonM
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Post #49 3 Jun 2021 16:08
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You still have not said how it will remove the mucus lol . We do a good job of that ourselves no matter how careful we are and what we wear.
Yes the fabric contains permethrin as pointed out but what constitutes a safe level and many insects repellents contain it (incognito, life systems, jungle formula etc etc) so after we've lathered our arms with it and some residue probably still on our hands what is worse when it comes to fish handling ?

The point I'm making here is it's frustrating when folk disregard / make comments / statements about a product when they have no real evidence.

We'll be back debating chips in vaccines 😂
ip100 ip100
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Post #50 3 Jun 2021 17:40
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As I said I don't know. It's irrelevant to my comment anyway. You comparing your skin to that of a fish is what my trips is. I thought that was quite obvious
JasonM JasonM
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Post #51 3 Jun 2021 17:56
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I just wish you'd have ready my reply properly, perhaps I was too subtle to summarize- what I said was nosilife was no worse than the insect repellents we use in the scenario I described as they all contain this same ingredient.

ip100 ip100
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Post #52 3 Jun 2021 18:04
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Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #53 7 Jun 2021 00:12
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. . .my bad for mentioning this!

Not sure whether the 'current' nosilife products are the same as they were almost 20yrs ago . . .my memory is addled but sure they were 'impregnated' back then. . .

Either way your point re us lathering our / hands forearms in the stuff is a fair one - if the chems in lifesytems are as 'mucus toxic' should we be using them at all? I think the point on T-shirts specifically is the larger surface area and holding fish against your body / wrapping round them should they flip etc . . .

Not telling anyone NOT to use them - if they work and you believe they're safe then fairplay . . .I fkn hate mozzies
Panander Panander
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Post #54 7 Jun 2021 09:36
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In reply to Post #28
Thermacell units work very well but can be expensive to run if you use the Thermacell refills or gas.
You can mod the small plastic gas bottles easily so they are refillable and also get much cheaper pads from ebay. They become very cheap to run.
I have been using mine for years now and is indispensable in a bivvy/brolly situation. When away from it then Incognito I find extremely effective (both spray and roll on) and contains nothing nasty.
Mosquitoes are not a problem at all these days - unlike for those on a lake I fish who have no protection and get bitten to hell. (This includes one SSS user who keeps telling me the it works against mozzies when it obviously doesn't. Against midges yes but they feed differently to mozzies)
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #55 7 Jun 2021 11:39
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In reply to Post #54
agree 100% I have a Thermacell they are truly amazing as is the best spray Incognito
also
the brilliant mozzie coils based on Geranium oil

I never ever have any problems with mozzies while people around me look like they been hit with a shotgun in the mornings
luckily years ago I found some bankrupt stock of refills for the Thermacell so I bought them all sold most on Ebay for a huge profit but kept a supply


Amebix
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Post #57 7 Jun 2021 19:32
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or you can get the backpacker version of the thermacell that screws on to a gascan..........no fiddling around with those small cartrigdes anymore. best investment ever.
AideyKaye
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Post #58 7 Jun 2021 19:53
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Apparently, Mozzies hate Lavender. Have purchased some incense sticks made with natural lavender, so will give that a go. Will couple them with citronella tea lights which I place in the glass which once housed a "Gu" desert.

Both may not keep the mozzies away, but i'll look like a fat bhudda in a nice smelling cornershop.
JasonM JasonM
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Post #59 7 Jun 2021 20:23
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There are loads of plants that work actually yes lavender is good to grow in your garden to stop visiting cats making an unwelcome deposit.

https://bestplants.com/plants-that-repel-mosquitoes/

All this to avoid becoming the elephant man, I envy those who don't get a reaction - it's the proteins in their saliva which cause the allergic reaction.
They say as you get older your immunity increases perhaps when I reach Gerrys age I'll be no longer affected 😃
foxpod foxpod
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Post #60 7 Jun 2021 21:12
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I think its down types of blood
I have o negative blood
I get eaten alive no matter what i use
Apparently mozzis love o type blood
I often litrally fish in the same 5 yards of my mate and he doesn`t get one bite but I have lots
Leigh83
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Post #61 7 Jun 2021 22:04
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Buy yourself Thermacell backpacker Yonny you'll never look back 👍 you won't get bitten again
yonny yonny
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Post #62 8 Jun 2021 07:25
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digger360
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Post #63 8 Jun 2021 09:58
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Normally i would agree with Oldgeezer about Incognito it did seem to be the best repellant against mozzies ...but this year down here in Murcia Spain it seems like they like it !!!!!
we have had a really wet cold spring so it was ok but now boom summer has arrived and the Asian tiger mozzies have hatched in biblical proportions in the last few days normally when going out i just spray myself and only get the odd bite ...but this morning i was spraying myself and the little buggers were just landing on my sprayed / wet ankles without a care in the world almost like it was an attractant not a repelant !!!
most people here seemed to like Avon skin so soft but last yr i think they changed the formula and it not as effective so i wonder has Incognito done the same ?
Or i have become less bitter and twisted during lockdown and they now like me who knows ...but this could be a bad yr here for the tiger mozzies ? just got to wait for the council to come around in July doing there spraying
Arrestorhook
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Post #64 8 Jun 2021 16:56
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I've moved to the Alsace, France. I was at the lake at 0445 this morning keen as mustard and covered in Incognito. I was back in the van heading home at 0600, mozzie torture. I've been recommended Autan by our neighbour.
The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #65 8 Jun 2021 17:49
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How quick do the thermacells go through a gas canister?
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #66 8 Jun 2021 18:17
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I had mozzies around the bivvy in May, colder nights, but days were quite bright, even if a little chilly with the north quarter based winds.
Last week my bivvy and car were absolutely covered in hatch cases of various insects, from mosquitoes to damsel flies.

I think if this weather keeps up it is going to be a heavy mozzie year.

For the past few years I have been on Avon Skin So Soft original, and not had any major problems. Previous to that I used Lifesystems Mozzie repellant 50%, but it could give me a headache, although it worked.

Some people find Skin so Soft works, others need more.
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #67 21 Jun 2023 17:34
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BUMP
Fivenil Fivenil
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Post #68 21 Jun 2023 18:23
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Mate i fish with a lot has never been bitten. He is quite partial to the old jamaican old holborn so maybe there is something in that the mozzies dont like?
Grexory Grexory
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Post #69 28 Jun 2023 10:55
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A standard size gas cannister literally last months for me, and that's fishing all through the summer, it's a tiny little flame that heats a metal plate (the fragrance pad sits on the plate)

I fish down in the Colne Valley and the mozzies are absolutely awful, the thermacell is the only thing which really works well.
Muddy_Hi-Lux Muddy_Hi-Lux
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Post #70 28 Jun 2023 12:00
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Used mine for the first time over the weekend, where the mozzies are equally ferocious. Bloody brilliant!!
chrispfox chrispfox
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Post #71 28 Jun 2023 12:11
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Thermacell is essential for me. I'd choose it over insect repellent but both is brilliant as then you deal with all the biting buzzing b******s
MiniWelsh MiniWelsh
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Post #72 28 Jun 2023 12:59
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Posted in error
Spacehead9846 Spacehead9846
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Post #73 2 Jul 2023 15:58
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Avon “skin so soft”, + sorts your complexion out......
cfc4life cfc4life
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Post #74 4 Jul 2023 09:58
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Anyone tried or know of these from Flextail, I think shipped from the US ?
https://www.flextail.com/products/tiny-repel
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #75 4 Jul 2023 19:55
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only any good for midges not been any good for mozzies since they changed the formula a while ago sadly ( I used it for around 6 years )
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #76 4 Jul 2023 20:04
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I went fishing with my mate Sunday until this afternoon,we both used Smidge after recommendation on here.I never got touched at all,my mate woke up with 23 bites this morning
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #77 4 Jul 2023 20:38
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tell him to buy this but reapply it every 6 hours incognito
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #78 4 Jul 2023 21:41
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Will do,cheers Gerry
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #79 4 Jul 2023 23:23
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only thing is set an alarm on your phone for 6 hours then re apply it and you wont get bitten its proven to be as effective as Deet and for some insects even superior prices vary

I buy mine in bulk here link below
sounds expensive 6 bottles for £55.49 but when it should easily last over a year bite free its cheap
when I fished in Thailand the swim where I fished had a ditch 20 ft behind me full of stagnant water the mozzies were unbelievable
the guys either side of me next day looked like they had been shot with shotgun and they turn nasty so much so they all moved over the other side of the lake
and we bagged up top catches every day except the last day big smile !

I never had a single bite all the time I was there mind you I did have the full monty the Incognito shampoo and soap too
fished in 6 different countries used every thing you can think of thermacell ,light zappers ETC included
nothing worked quite as good as it as you could walk anywhere and not get bit they usually go for the thinnest skin ankles wrist etc

and Incognito has worked 100% me and everyone thats fished with me SCROLL down when it loads LINKY POO
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #80 5 Jul 2023 08:13
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The first night he never got touched but his mozzie zapper was full in the morning,the second night he got battered.The second night his mozzie zapper perhaps needed a charge as it wasn't as bright,it also rained so maybe they took shelter in his bivvy.He had bites on his arms ankles,elbows and bottom of his back,they looked really itchy too.I tried not to laugh too much
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #81 5 Jul 2023 08:28
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mozzie zapper`s are good to a point

but about as much use as a chocolate fireguard if you walk away to your rods or go for a pee they will nail you UNLESS you got a spray on
also they are not the be all people think they are in a bivvy either as the light is designed to attract them it does
but not all will be killed and you only need a couple again if you have no spay on you get nailed

as I always bang on about something I passionately believe is the best
Incognito spray is the only really perfect solution as you can walk away anywhere and your protected the only thing you can knock it for is you need to re apply it every 6 hours not what the bottle says
long time members will remember years ago I banged on about Avon skin so soft it USED to really work not like now its shyte
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Post #82 5 Jul 2023 09:16
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I used to love the Avon stuff,the smidge worked for me.I have told him try the Incognito
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Post #83 5 Jul 2023 10:53
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I think they are as norm, they love me. Personally I am seeing a lot more horseflies of which one has made an absolute mess of me last time out. Interested to find a repellant for them and considering they can bite through clothing, I don't hold out much hope.
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Post #84 5 Jul 2023 11:53
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I've noticed the over abundance of Horse Flies too, hate the dammed things!

After working on a new section of wild River backings, I was shocked how many of the swine's had managed to bite me without me knowing. Saying that I probably got bite because of being truly focused on the Giant Hog Weed I was removing - now that stuff is seriously dangerous!


Is there any deterrent for Horse Flies?
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Post #85 5 Jul 2023 12:56
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They really are nasty, so much so, my mate thought I had been bitten by a spider of some sort.

I would be interested to know myself!



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Post #86 5 Jul 2023 14:16
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There is a product called Farnam that horse riders use.
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Post #87 5 Jul 2023 14:25
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Giant Hog Weed I was removing - now that stuff is seriously dangerous!


I hope you were PPE'd up to the eyeballs.
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Post #88 5 Jul 2023 18:33
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It was the first couple of sessions treating it, but it was so hot with all the PPE on dehydration was a problem.
Found just avoiding the stuff (Not as if you can miss it) and then spraying the areas with it in afterwards seems the safer option.

~ Know it's about time the authorities started to take it a lot more seriously, and got it eradicated once and for all, before some kid gets seriously burnt from it.
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Post #89 5 Jul 2023 20:14
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There was some on the river path on The Gipping near the London -Norwich railway bridge, despite numerous phone calls and emails the Ipswich council ignored it, along with the fly-tipping.

Horrible stuff!

Mozzies this year the Avon Skin So Soft has been working, I did check, and I recall someone saying the Jojoba had been taken out, no, definitely still in according to the label on the bottle I have in front of me.

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Post #90 5 Jul 2023 20:36
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I think the older version had citronella oil in also
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Post #91 5 Jul 2023 20:36
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I have still got quite a few bottles of the old stuff,my mum kept on buying it for me
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Post #92 5 Jul 2023 22:57
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Sure the one I have has as well.
I can't reach it right now I'm one side of the bivvy and the bottle is in the rucksack on the other, but I'll look in morning.
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Mr Linky Poo Post #93 6 Jul 2023 00:12
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Forget what the bottle says I was Avon`s biggest fan for many many years absolutely loved it kept me bite free every country I went

and then I started getting bitten regularly and so did a lot of people CLEARLY something changed ? who cares what? point is it dont work like it used to anymore and there are far far better products on the market now
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Post #94 6 Jul 2023 09:01
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I think I've found out what changed, and it wasn't the removal of jojoba oil or citronella. A substance called piperidin, which was synthesised from black pepper oil.

So possibly with no black pepper oil in it, not so much insect repellent properties.

On the scientific side, some research, blood type O people are more susceptible to being bitten, twice as likely as type A, the 2 most common groups in UK. My AB blood is safe...


Eating garlic some say yes, some no, but research has not found any indication that eating garlic will help avoid being bitten.

So it's down to:
Insect repellent and what works for you. If you need the DEET, then Lifesystems 50.

Permethrin impregnated clothing, British and American Army Combats are permethrin impregnated.

Change your blood type to type B
Knowing the intelligence of some on here I can see questions on how to do that...



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Mr Linky Poo Post #95 6 Jul 2023 10:37
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my ex is French
and French people eat tons of garlic and she always used to find it so funny that English say garlic stops mozzies
bit like the nut cases that say peeing round your bivvy stops rats
despite the fact the rats favourite places are in the sewers swimming in it
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Post #96 6 Jul 2023 12:28
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Change your blood type to type B
Knowing the intelligence of some on here I can see questions on how to do that...


I believe there is a certain tone setting on delkims that is a known mozzie deterrent
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Post #97 6 Jul 2023 15:09
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I believe there is a certain tone setting on delkims that is a known mozzie deterrent

Unless it's raining, that is
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Post #98 6 Jul 2023 15:14
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Cocktail umbrella will sort that problem
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Post #99 6 Jul 2023 15:17
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Now that I found amusing.

I've got the instruction sheet that came with my Delkims and Receiver in the bivvy, I'll read through it later to find which button it is

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Post #100 8 Jul 2023 09:08
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Found it

https://www.fundis-equestrian.co.uk/stable-care-feed/care-products/fly-repellents/fly-sprays/2744/effol-horse-fly-blocker-herbs


It's a full spectrum repellent, even Ticks
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Post #101 8 Jul 2023 13:31
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Looks more like it's for use on horses..... Is it ok on our skin?
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Post #102 8 Jul 2023 15:15
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https://www.farnam.com/all-products/fly-insect-control/dual-defense
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Post #103 11 Jul 2023 10:02
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Got bite four times off Horse Flies while stalking Carp on the Fly gear Sunday morning, so I've ordered some of the Equestrian stuff off Amazon.

PFERDEPFLEGE24 Horse fly spray & insect repellent, £13.99 for a 0.5 litre spray.
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Mr Linky Poo Post #104 11 Jul 2023 15:50
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WELL
do let us know if you find you can suddenly run faster and able to easily jump fences mate
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Post #105 18 Jul 2023 16:14
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Just bought some Vapona Coils from a local DIY shop so hopefully, with these and some Incognito, I'll be able to enjoy a few days on the bank without ending up in hospital with an arm the size of a hefty tree trunk and the colour of coal


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Mr Linky Poo Post #106 18 Jul 2023 23:33
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just set an alarm on your phone for 6 hours then re apply the incognito and you wont get any trouble and can walk anywhere
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Post #107 22 Jul 2023 09:45
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Interesting podcast on mosquito bites on the BBC sounds app this week, Sliced Bread podcast:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001np5v
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Post #108 27 Jul 2023 10:58
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Well Gerry – after numerous sessions – removing fallen trees, clearing River backings to make access viable for the very first time (Areas never been fished before) and I'm talking proper “Jungle” requiring Chainsaws, Brush Cutters & Machetes' , I've not suffered from a single Midge, Mozzy or Horse Fly bite.
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Post #109 27 Jul 2023 11:10
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Just been eating lots of sugar lumps and hay
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Post #110 27 Jul 2023 11:29
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Mr Linky Poo Post #111 27 Jul 2023 13:33
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wow well thats a great result and good reliable report well done mate

LINKY POO
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Post #112 31 Aug 2023 18:26
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I got these after reading this thread. 3 nights in and not a single bite. great coils.
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Mr Linky Poo Post #113 31 Aug 2023 18:33
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YES and they got some more stock in at the moment too
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Post #114 31 Aug 2023 18:38
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That is where I got them from, ordered on a Saturday they turned up the next Wednesday.
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Mr Linky Poo Post #115 1 Sep 2023 01:24
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yes they are so much better than the ones normally sold that are so toxic these Geranium oil based ones dont give you a head ache and work so much better
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