Picked up a pair of thermally lined craghoppers from Amazon and I'm a bit disappointed in them really. Thin outer and inner, don't feel like quality at all. Certainly not hard wearing. In terms of keeping me warm, a pair of jeans would probably be better. They are meant to be water resistant, but they felt far from it.
Can you guys recommend any decent and warm combats/ trousers?
Can you guys recommend any decent and warm combats/ trousers?
In reply to Post #1
I found the Craghopper winter lined trousers to be excellent. Everyone raves about them on here. They've outlasted the North Face equivalent that I had already.
If you want proper thermal you're better off going for salopettes mate. When it gets cold I'll ditch the Craghoppers for the Snugpak salopettes - but they're not waterpoof.
I believe ESP do a decent waterproof set.
I found the Craghopper winter lined trousers to be excellent. Everyone raves about them on here. They've outlasted the North Face equivalent that I had already.
If you want proper thermal you're better off going for salopettes mate. When it gets cold I'll ditch the Craghoppers for the Snugpak salopettes - but they're not waterpoof.
I believe ESP do a decent waterproof set.
In reply to Post #1
Have you actually tried them in freeze your B******s off weather yet ? as so far we havent had any cold weather ? trust me when you do you will realise you dont need anything else I worked for over 23 years standing for up to 2 hours refuelling aircraft in one of the coldest places in England Heathrow Airport
and in that time I have tried everything every sort of long johns made merino wool , silk etc god knows how many sorts of thermal trousers and F**k all comes close to Craghopper winter lined for keeping you warm and comfortable
EDIT
And if you have bought Craghoppers Kiwi Winter Lined Trousers ? you will see
we offer a Guarantee For Life on all of our products
Have you actually tried them in freeze your B******s off weather yet ? as so far we havent had any cold weather ? trust me when you do you will realise you dont need anything else I worked for over 23 years standing for up to 2 hours refuelling aircraft in one of the coldest places in England Heathrow Airport
and in that time I have tried everything every sort of long johns made merino wool , silk etc god knows how many sorts of thermal trousers and F**k all comes close to Craghopper winter lined for keeping you warm and comfortable
EDIT
And if you have bought Craghoppers Kiwi Winter Lined Trousers ? you will see
we offer a Guarantee For Life on all of our products
In reply to Post #1
I wear normal craghoppers for work and they have lasted me 3 years so far and still look like new.I have the thermal ones for winter and they are superb,I working in a freezing cold warehouse and I have to get on and off trucks every five minutes.The groin area on jeans lasted 12 months max.The craghoppers still showing no sign of wear.thanks to Gerry I got them and glad I did
I wear normal craghoppers for work and they have lasted me 3 years so far and still look like new.I have the thermal ones for winter and they are superb,I working in a freezing cold warehouse and I have to get on and off trucks every five minutes.The groin area on jeans lasted 12 months max.The craghoppers still showing no sign of wear.thanks to Gerry I got them and glad I did
In reply to Post #4
Hmm, maybe I should give them a go then. They just don't feel hard wearing at all and very thin.
Hmm, maybe I should give them a go then. They just don't feel hard wearing at all and very thin.
In reply to Post #3
No, not tried them, as I am debating on sending them back.
No, not tried them, as I am debating on sending them back.
In reply to Post #6
I got some lined work trouser from lidl last year and it needs to be nearly freezing before you can wear them otherwise you just sweat like nothing on earth.
Warm is not the word !!!
I got some lined work trouser from lidl last year and it needs to be nearly freezing before you can wear them otherwise you just sweat like nothing on earth.
Warm is not the word !!!
In reply to Post #6
post a link to the amazon ones mate. they cant always be trusted.
post a link to the amazon ones mate. they cant always be trusted.
In reply to Post #5
I'd agree with that. I've had two pairs, lovely and warm as stated but they aren't a particularly good fit and the material is very cheap, pockets and a zip have broken on both my pairs and they don't get worn all that often.
They are not expensive and you are getting what they are worth, nothing more.
I'd agree with that. I've had two pairs, lovely and warm as stated but they aren't a particularly good fit and the material is very cheap, pockets and a zip have broken on both my pairs and they don't get worn all that often.
They are not expensive and you are getting what they are worth, nothing more.
In reply to Post #8
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003UYTV9E?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003UYTV9E?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
In reply to Post #10
yep they are the ones brilliant
yep they are the ones brilliant
In reply to Post #9
are you talking about the Aldi ones ?
as the Craghopper ones have a Guarantee For Life !!
are you talking about the Aldi ones ?
In reply to Post #12
Doesn't cover wear and tear though.
How have you found them in the rain?
Doesn't cover wear and tear though.
How have you found them in the rain?
In reply to Post #13
mine are definitely not any good for rain at all ! I have waterproof over trousers for wet weather that go over the top
but no need for long johns to keep warm
I bought my first pair around 10 years ago and I have never had any problems with zips or pockets or anything
in really extreme cold and wet I wear the Prologic Comfort Thermo Suit over the top and have been in France in minus 16c without being cold
mine are definitely not any good for rain at all ! I have waterproof over trousers for wet weather that go over the top
but no need for long johns to keep warm
in really extreme cold and wet I wear the Prologic Comfort Thermo Suit over the top and have been in France in minus 16c without being cold
In reply to Post #1
Just got some deer hunter Ram fleece lined waterproof trousers theyre awesome! Got them in sale on ebay £39 normally £80 +
Just got some deer hunter Ram fleece lined waterproof trousers theyre awesome! Got them in sale on ebay £39 normally £80 +
In reply to Post #15
Merino wool long johns plus standard craghoppers trousers work for me.
Lined craghoppers not great if it warms up, merino wool next to the skin keeps you cool
Merino wool long johns plus standard craghoppers trousers work for me.
Lined craghoppers not great if it warms up, merino wool next to the skin keeps you cool
In reply to Post #12
No mate the Craghoppers,
I've had four pairs in all, two unlined pairs for the summer etc. Bought off the write up's on here TBH. For thirty quid they're ok but worth no more. Moved on to Millitary 1st stuff now spending double the money and they aren't perfect.
I have one of the Pro Logic suits, the original one in the Yank duck hunting camo and zip out fleece. I dont think that coat and sallopetts set has ever been beaten for quality and warmth. absolutely outstanding.
No mate the Craghoppers,
I've had four pairs in all, two unlined pairs for the summer etc. Bought off the write up's on here TBH. For thirty quid they're ok but worth no more. Moved on to Millitary 1st stuff now spending double the money and they aren't perfect.
I have one of the Pro Logic suits, the original one in the Yank duck hunting camo and zip out fleece. I dont think that coat and sallopetts set has ever been beaten for quality and warmth. absolutely outstanding.
In reply to Post #1
The problem with Craghoppers. along with many other brands, is that they're still trading on the good reputation they established originally, whilst having dropped the quality of many products in order to maintain prices at a level where they think they can make most profit. I used to always buy Craghopper Kiwi trousers, both lined and unlined, but stopped doing so a few years ago when the last pair I bought were of noticeable poorer quality.
I now wear the 5.11 Tactical trousers used by many security personnel, with thermal long johns and/or Goretex overtrousers as conditions dictate and have no complaints at all.
The problem with Craghoppers. along with many other brands, is that they're still trading on the good reputation they established originally, whilst having dropped the quality of many products in order to maintain prices at a level where they think they can make most profit. I used to always buy Craghopper Kiwi trousers, both lined and unlined, but stopped doing so a few years ago when the last pair I bought were of noticeable poorer quality.
I now wear the 5.11 Tactical trousers used by many security personnel, with thermal long johns and/or Goretex overtrousers as conditions dictate and have no complaints at all.
Quality wise you are better off looking at the shooting/hunting brands maybe
In reply to Post #18
Cant go wrong with 5.11 I used one of their rucksacks for work. had it 6 years it still looks brand new, I use it on the bank for clothes and a stash bag for my valuables and tech if I'm on the bank for a few days.
Cant go wrong with 5.11 I used one of their rucksacks for work. had it 6 years it still looks brand new, I use it on the bank for clothes and a stash bag for my valuables and tech if I'm on the bank for a few days.
Korda polar kombats I found these warmer than the Craghoppers
In reply to Post #1
The best winter trousers I found are Keela Quantum's, they are waterproof, wind proof, have 4 way stretch, ability to attach braces, knee, ankle and seat protection and a strange sort of very small 2mm for want of a better term quilted lining.
I've stood around on mountain tops and coastlines in Scotland in the depths of winter, coldest temp we recorded onsite was -18deg°C on Rannoch Moor, and never felt the need for any other leg wear. Conversely I've worn them in warmer climes and nearly melted.
Downside, they only come in dark blue, you have to very careful washing them, no hotter than 30 or the taped seams come away,also dry them inside out otherwise they take a lifetime
Looking on Keelas site they have been discontinued but they have some stock left in a few size, and they are only £25!! They used to sell between £99 and £130 in the past. I've still got 2 pairs and they are my go to winter trousers.
I've gone over to wearing their Scuffers for the rest of the year, warmish but with ventilation zips, showerproof, 4 way stretch and dry very quickly.
Thoroughly recommend Keela's gear, bomb proof within reason, maybe not the best looking for the high street as a lot of outdoor brands but they just work.
The best winter trousers I found are Keela Quantum's, they are waterproof, wind proof, have 4 way stretch, ability to attach braces, knee, ankle and seat protection and a strange sort of very small 2mm for want of a better term quilted lining.
I've stood around on mountain tops and coastlines in Scotland in the depths of winter, coldest temp we recorded onsite was -18deg°C on Rannoch Moor, and never felt the need for any other leg wear. Conversely I've worn them in warmer climes and nearly melted.
Downside, they only come in dark blue, you have to very careful washing them, no hotter than 30 or the taped seams come away,also dry them inside out otherwise they take a lifetime
Looking on Keelas site they have been discontinued but they have some stock left in a few size, and they are only £25!! They used to sell between £99 and £130 in the past. I've still got 2 pairs and they are my go to winter trousers.
I've gone over to wearing their Scuffers for the rest of the year, warmish but with ventilation zips, showerproof, 4 way stretch and dry very quickly.
Thoroughly recommend Keela's gear, bomb proof within reason, maybe not the best looking for the high street as a lot of outdoor brands but they just work.
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a pair of these arrived this morning . . .MAGCOMSEN Men's Waterproof Outdoor Fleece Softshell
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0777MLPN6?ref_=pe_3187911_248764861_302_E_DDE_dt_1
Haven't used them in anger / the cold yet but have tried them on and they are v comfy . . .hopefully they'll be warm too.
Main purchase factor is comfort and the fact that these have no rear pockets so should be good to sleep in . . .use softshell pants/jacket for skiing 2 weeks every year almost exclusively (up to -10 / mild snowfall) and the warmth vs breathability and ability to layer up or down is second to none . . .
The benefit of softshell is you can use it over a much wider range of cold temps so if you get a warm spell you don't sweat (and then get cold from your own sweat) but if it drops you still stay warm . . .will be using light breathable waterpoofs as an over layer for wet weather . .
a pair of these arrived this morning . . .MAGCOMSEN Men's Waterproof Outdoor Fleece Softshell
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0777MLPN6?ref_=pe_3187911_248764861_302_E_DDE_dt_1
Haven't used them in anger / the cold yet but have tried them on and they are v comfy . . .hopefully they'll be warm too.
Main purchase factor is comfort and the fact that these have no rear pockets so should be good to sleep in . . .use softshell pants/jacket for skiing 2 weeks every year almost exclusively (up to -10 / mild snowfall) and the warmth vs breathability and ability to layer up or down is second to none . . .
The benefit of softshell is you can use it over a much wider range of cold temps so if you get a warm spell you don't sweat (and then get cold from your own sweat) but if it drops you still stay warm . . .will be using light breathable waterpoofs as an over layer for wet weather . .
In reply to Post #23
Belch What's the sizing like on these as might get a pair
Belch What's the sizing like on these as might get a pair
In reply to Post #19
Hoggs of Fife for mine, jacket and trousers.
I think they have gone from the Strathmoor ones I use to a new name though.
Hoggs of Fife for mine, jacket and trousers.
I think they have gone from the Strathmoor ones I use to a new name though.
In reply to Post #24
Sizing perfect for me - size 38 (XL) is regular length leg fit and not too baggy not too tight (bit like Levis 501s)
Stretchy and comfortable - I am 6'1" / 15 stone . .belt loops etc. Lining is fleece . . .exterior softshell . . .colour carpy green!
Sizing perfect for me - size 38 (XL) is regular length leg fit and not too baggy not too tight (bit like Levis 501s)
Stretchy and comfortable - I am 6'1" / 15 stone . .belt loops etc. Lining is fleece . . .exterior softshell . . .colour carpy green!
In reply to Post #26
Cheers
Cheers
In reply to Post #1
Any fleecy trousers with Prologic litepro waterproof bib and brace over the top. Totally warm, dry, and drought free.
Any fleecy trousers with Prologic litepro waterproof bib and brace over the top. Totally warm, dry, and drought free.
Got some craghoppers kiwi winter lined myself and never had an issue. Had them a few years and still going strong.
Yarp I have a pair of Craig hopper thermal lined trousers for autumn - winter mine are around 5 years old,
As long as I don't continue to pile on the weight I'll have them for another 5 years.
As long as I don't continue to pile on the weight I'll have them for another 5 years.
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