Does anyone else use these to soak on hookbaits in the winter?
I did it last year with black pepper and fenugreek but to be honest didn't notice any difference
I did it last year with black pepper and fenugreek but to be honest didn't notice any difference
In reply to Post #1
No not them ones.
You have PM.
No not them ones.
You have PM.
In reply to Post #1
im guessing some are more effective than others, perhaps seasonal.
I remember Baz Griffiths hauling at Frampton with hookbaits soaked in neat B.P.E.O.
MARKerz, if you have oils that work, PM me too plz
im guessing some are more effective than others, perhaps seasonal.
I remember Baz Griffiths hauling at Frampton with hookbaits soaked in neat B.P.E.O.
MARKerz, if you have oils that work, PM me too plz
In reply to Post #2
Yeah I wouldn't mind a copy if that's no problem. I only really fish in the winter with singles or minimal bait.
Yeah I wouldn't mind a copy if that's no problem. I only really fish in the winter with singles or minimal bait.
And me please 
PM for me too please. I like EO's but it's more trial and error to find out which ones work.
In reply to Post #6
Would gladly appreciate a PM aswell, Markerz Exhausting trial and error to find out which ones work, at the right doses.
Would gladly appreciate a PM aswell, Markerz
Exhausting trial and error to find out which ones work, at the right doses.
In reply to Post #7
Me to
Me to
In reply to Post #2
If I could have one too please. Had a bit of success with bun spice.
If I could have one too please. Had a bit of success with bun spice.
In reply to Post #7
A lot depends on the supplier, the purity of said oils of choice and the consistency of supply once you have found a good one or two.
From memory.
one winter me and a friend were dabbling with various orange 🍊 oils or mandarin oil.
1ml per mix was a winner with one, put the other was much weaker
A lot depends on the supplier, the purity of said oils of choice and the consistency of supply once you have found a good one or two.
From memory.
one winter me and a friend were dabbling with various orange 🍊 oils or mandarin oil.
1ml per mix was a winner with one, put the other was much weaker
In reply to Post #1
Cinnamon oil
Cinnamon oil
I second what Scaley&dark says.
Not all essential oils are equal, far from it. They all claim that they are “pure” but this means sod all.
There are lots of very effective essential oils. The key is to get a fresh, high quality one and find the right inclusion level for that particular one.
I would say soaking hookbaits in eo would be complete overkill but I'd imagine with some eo's you could get away with it.
When combining a few eo's together dispersion rates are also very worth while considering.
PS fenugreek and black pepper oil- you aren't on the wrong track at all. These are both very effective if you get good examples of them. Although there is better out there for winter.
Not all essential oils are equal, far from it. They all claim that they are “pure” but this means sod all.
There are lots of very effective essential oils. The key is to get a fresh, high quality one and find the right inclusion level for that particular one.
I would say soaking hookbaits in eo would be complete overkill but I'd imagine with some eo's you could get away with it.
When combining a few eo's together dispersion rates are also very worth while considering.
PS fenugreek and black pepper oil- you aren't on the wrong track at all. These are both very effective if you get good examples of them. Although there is better out there for winter.
In reply to Post #2
If I could also have a PM that would be brilliant Thankyou 😁
If I could also have a PM that would be brilliant Thankyou 😁
Does anyone know the blend of oils in the old Nash/Shaun Harrison sting essential oil blend?
I used to do quite well with that in the sting fish mix in summer then switching to the amber attract base mix in the winter with no other attractors just some sweetener 25+ years ago.
I used to do quite well with that in the sting fish mix in summer then switching to the amber attract base mix in the winter with no other attractors just some sweetener 25+ years ago.
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Unfortunately, in this day and age, it´s almost impossible to verify purity & authenticity of so called EOs.
It´s hit & miss. The days of dark brown bottles, totally sealed, with authentic looking labels including latin names etc, don´t mean jack sh1te. Cheaper synthetic fillers are widely used. Trust reputable suppliers. and avoid any bottles with the word "fragrance" on the label.
Roughly check purity, by using the missus´ makeup remover pads Afew drops on em, and if a visible ring of residue appears after the EO has dried, then you know that the EO has been most likely diluted with a carrier oil.
As a rough guide, check the Latin name, plant parts used, type of extraction, growth method, net contents, and country of origin, then pray you get a bend in the rod 
ALWAYS check specific gravity as well, so you know how the oil is reacting in the water ... either hugging the bottom around the hookbait, or drifting up.
Unfortunately, in this day and age, it´s almost impossible to verify purity & authenticity of so called EOs.
It´s hit & miss. The days of dark brown bottles, totally sealed, with authentic looking labels including latin names etc, don´t mean jack sh1te. Cheaper synthetic fillers are widely used. Trust reputable suppliers. and avoid any bottles with the word "fragrance" on the label.
Roughly check purity, by using the missus´ makeup remover pads
Afew drops on em, and if a visible ring of residue appears after the EO has dried, then you know that the EO has been most likely diluted with a carrier oil.As a rough guide, check the Latin name, plant parts used, type of extraction, growth method, net contents, and country of origin, then pray you get a bend in the rod
ALWAYS check specific gravity as well, so you know how the oil is reacting in the water ... either hugging the bottom around the hookbait, or drifting up.
In reply to Post #15
Some top tips right there! Good idea with the makeup pads.
Some top tips right there! Good idea with the makeup pads.
In reply to Post #16
any good web shops for EO?
any good web shops for EO?
In reply to Post #17
Oils4life
Oils4life
In reply to Post #18
tnx
tnx
In reply to Post #18
I've had a few from Oils4life and they seemed OK. Never had to re-order so no idea if they are consistent though!
I've had a few from Oils4life and they seemed OK. Never had to re-order so no idea if they are consistent though!
In reply to Post #20
Had loads off em, over the years ... top quality all the time
Had loads off em, over the years ... top quality all the time
In reply to Post #17
Mothernaturesgoodies is who I use. Quick delivery times too.
Mothernaturesgoodies is who I use. Quick delivery times too.
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Are you really talking about fenugreek EO? Most EO suppliers I know do only supply fenugreek oleoresins. The only f
Products I found claiming to be fenugreek EO were quite unaffordable
Are you really talking about fenugreek EO? Most EO suppliers I know do only supply fenugreek oleoresins. The only f
Products I found claiming to be fenugreek EO were quite unaffordable
I used to have a few favourites, Cinnamon, Geranium, Fenugreek, Clove, Eucalyptus and Black Pepper.
The problem now as others have said is getting consistent quality. Aromatherapy oils are often mixed with a carrier oil, so are worth avoiding. It really is a case of looking to get the purest oils available, and when you do, don't overload them. Levels used for each oil can be very different. One drop may be too much in a 6 egg mix, yet other oils can work as high as a millilitre for the same.
The problem now as others have said is getting consistent quality. Aromatherapy oils are often mixed with a carrier oil, so are worth avoiding. It really is a case of looking to get the purest oils available, and when you do, don't overload them. Levels used for each oil can be very different. One drop may be too much in a 6 egg mix, yet other oils can work as high as a millilitre for the same.
In reply to Post #24
Must be some strength to be less than a drop in a 6 egg, what was that and where were you sourcing?
Must be some strength to be less than a drop in a 6 egg, what was that and where were you sourcing?
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I have purchased many many essential oils over the years and about 6 months ago I took a plunge and tried a big company online for a few samples. They sent me a copy of an EO I hadn't seen before and when it arrived I found it wasn't actually and essential oil at all but a condensed flavour. It transpires that it is actually a bloody good flavour that smells and tastes (to me) incredible. I made some hookbaits using it and it has scored me a huge winter carp plus several 30s when all has failed. Funny how fate works
I have purchased many many essential oils over the years and about 6 months ago I took a plunge and tried a big company online for a few samples. They sent me a copy of an EO I hadn't seen before and when it arrived I found it wasn't actually and essential oil at all but a condensed flavour. It transpires that it is actually a bloody good flavour that smells and tastes (to me) incredible. I made some hookbaits using it and it has scored me a huge winter carp plus several 30s when all has failed. Funny how fate works
In reply to Post #26
Some wonderful discoveries happen like this with all manner of things, got to take advantage as you have, I dread to think of some of the things I let pass me by only to get a right slap in the face years later!
Some wonderful discoveries happen like this with all manner of things, got to take advantage as you have, I dread to think of some of the things I let pass me by only to get a right slap in the face years later!
In reply to Post #27
Yes I saw a sample of calanus several years ago in our shop and pushed it to one side as we had just seen hydro shrimp that had just arrived and been tested. Calanus turned out be very effective! Essential oils is a bit of a minefield but as with most things, one or two of them seem to have Mileage and need investigating
Yes I saw a sample of calanus several years ago in our shop and pushed it to one side as we had just seen hydro shrimp that had just arrived and been tested. Calanus turned out be very effective! Essential oils is a bit of a minefield but as with most things, one or two of them seem to have Mileage and need investigating
In reply to Post #25
Must be some strength to be less than a drop in a 6 egg, what was that and where were you sourcing?
The original Nutrabaits Garlic Essential Oil.
Must be some strength to be less than a drop in a 6 egg, what was that and where were you sourcing?
The original Nutrabaits Garlic Essential Oil.
In reply to Post #29
I like those from Oils4life
I like those from Oils4life
In reply to Post #29
And leek oil.....
And leek oil.....
In reply to Post #26
Yeah, do you remember Cotswold Baits old Strawberry Oil? I know there's no such thing, but did really well on 1 drop per 6 eggs......
Yeah, do you remember Cotswold Baits old Strawberry Oil? I know there's no such thing, but did really well on 1 drop per 6 eggs......
In reply to Post #31
...and asafoetida. One part carrier to one part EO, and even then it was too strong!
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...and asafoetida. One part carrier to one part EO, and even then it was too strong!
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In reply to Post #28
Dark Sting...wish I could put my finger on the EO in that one
Dark Sting...wish I could put my finger on the EO in that one
In reply to Post #33
That took me back, that and Fenugreek. I used to have to wear none breathing gloves for 4 hour shifts in my work, everyone knew if I'd been fishing, :-x
The there was Nutrabaits Mexican Onion...up there too on the stink front but not as bad as A or F.
That took me back, that and Fenugreek. I used to have to wear none breathing gloves for 4 hour shifts in my work, everyone knew if I'd been fishing,
:-xThe there was Nutrabaits Mexican Onion...up there too on the stink front but not as bad as A or F.
In reply to Post #33
From Nutrabaits
ASAFOETIDA OIL (10ml)
Another smelly one that is packed in pong retardant plastic tubs. 'The Special' as it is sometimes referred to, is an outstanding carp attractor that combines superbly well with Black Pepper Oil. 11 drops of Pepper with 1 drop of Asafoetida being the usual combo. This is the essential oil that has the dubious distinction of being the one that nobody can pronounce.. Assa-fa-teeda!!
From Nutrabaits
ASAFOETIDA OIL (10ml)
Another smelly one that is packed in pong retardant plastic tubs. 'The Special' as it is sometimes referred to, is an outstanding carp attractor that combines superbly well with Black Pepper Oil. 11 drops of Pepper with 1 drop of Asafoetida being the usual combo. This is the essential oil that has the dubious distinction of being the one that nobody can pronounce.. Assa-fa-teeda!!
In reply to Post #36
Lavender essential oil is my fav. I use Volant brand. They are pricey, but feel so different to other brands that I'm happy to pay more for them.
Lavender essential oil is my fav. I use Volant brand. They are pricey, but feel so different to other brands that I'm happy to pay more for them.
In reply to Post #1
anyone using Fennel EO. Bill recently mentioned its a big catcher and has a great cold water track record.
anyone using Fennel EO. Bill recently mentioned its a big catcher and has a great cold water track record.
In reply to Post #38
Yes
Yes
In reply to Post #40
It is in red legend pop ups along with the modern version of “mixed herb”.
Tastes odd smells really nice to me. Fennel is proper old skool
It is in red legend pop ups along with the modern version of “mixed herb”.
Tastes odd smells really nice to me. Fennel is proper old skool
In reply to Post #34
I will let you know😉
I will let you know😉
In reply to Post #42
Come in then, Gav. My inbox awaits!
Come in then, Gav. My inbox awaits!
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