In reply to Post #31
Cherry have their haters which seems to stem largely from the fact the rolling is outsourced abroad to a factory that mass produce a lot of 'euro style' seemingly low quality baits.
Ive seen the range and although I have never used them I know people that have and I don't think they are any worse or better than a large proportion of other baits currently out there and are not even particularly cheap now. Especially when you factor in I think they only deal direct?
One thing I've learnt from this forum is try things for yourself, a lot of '' info'' on this forum comes from regurgitated fake news from people with little or no experience of the product
Cherry have their haters which seems to stem largely from the fact the rolling is outsourced abroad to a factory that mass produce a lot of 'euro style' seemingly low quality baits.
Ive seen the range and although I have never used them I know people that have and I don't think they are any worse or better than a large proportion of other baits currently out there and are not even particularly cheap now. Especially when you factor in I think they only deal direct?
One thing I've learnt from this forum is try things for yourself, a lot of '' info'' on this forum comes from regurgitated fake news from people with little or no experience of the product
Quite a few years ago now I used B5, to almost zero success, switched over to a mix of Trent Freshwater Shrimp & Baitworks Atlantic Heat, before making a decision to use solely Atlantic Heat, and have never looked back.
The fact they now do them in shelf life and are not rock solid (very much the same texture as the fresh) is an absolute bonus. I've mostly use their shelf life and results seem to have been near enough the same as when on their fresh baits in previous seasons.
The fact they now do them in shelf life and are not rock solid (very much the same texture as the fresh) is an absolute bonus. I've mostly use their shelf life and results seem to have been near enough the same as when on their fresh baits in previous seasons.
In reply to Post #46
I used the CNC when it came out for a while, did well for me on the waters I fished, did very well in France on it.
All time fave shelfie has to be Dynamite Baits Banana Nut Crunch, I'd still use it now if it was available....I'm a big fan of Banana flavoured boilies.
I used the CNC when it came out for a while, did well for me on the waters I fished, did very well in France on it.
All time fave shelfie has to be Dynamite Baits Banana Nut Crunch, I'd still use it now if it was available....I'm a big fan of Banana flavoured boilies.
In reply to Post #48
Same here, I caught my first 30 over 20 years ago on a richworth banana ester pop up.
Same here, I caught my first 30 over 20 years ago on a richworth banana ester pop up.
Complex T. Had two geat sessions in France on it.
In reply to Post #46
One thing you've learnt in your 5 minutes on here....
One thing you've learnt in your 5 minutes on here....
In reply to Post #46
That's a bit harsh. Personally I would only ever comment on or recommend a product I had used myself. If your not discerning enough to only take advice from people qualified to give it then that's your problem. I would never criticise a product unless I had used it with adverse results.
That's a bit harsh. Personally I would only ever comment on or recommend a product I had used myself. If your not discerning enough to only take advice from people qualified to give it then that's your problem. I would never criticise a product unless I had used it with adverse results.
In reply to Post #51
Doesnt take long to realise the ones that value their own opinion a bit too highly
Doesnt take long to realise the ones that value their own opinion a bit too highly
In reply to Post #52
What I take issue with is people talking with authority on what a bait contains without being aware of the facts.
People can speculate and make assumptions on a baits quality based on personal experience and results BUT unless you know for 100% what a bait contains I don't find comments like its no more than floor sweepings useful or particularly fair on the company concerned whether that be cherry or whoever. In fact it is libelous.
I cant see how you could know this as fact unless:
a) you have visited the factory and seen the bait being made personally
b) if you have had a chemical analysis done
What I take issue with is people talking with authority on what a bait contains without being aware of the facts.
People can speculate and make assumptions on a baits quality based on personal experience and results BUT unless you know for 100% what a bait contains I don't find comments like its no more than floor sweepings useful or particularly fair on the company concerned whether that be cherry or whoever. In fact it is libelous.
I cant see how you could know this as fact unless:
a) you have visited the factory and seen the bait being made personally
b) if you have had a chemical analysis done
In reply to Post #54
Experience in bait rolling tells you what you need to know. And don't make me laugh, libel 😂 it's called opinion, everyone's got one
Experience in bait rolling tells you what you need to know. And don't make me laugh, libel 😂 it's called opinion, everyone's got one
In reply to Post #55
No, an opinion is the bait didn't bait work for me or it doesn't look to be made of very high quality Ingredients
The bait is nothing more than floor sweepings is not just an opinion, you are passing off something as a matter of fact. Big difference.
No, an opinion is the bait didn't bait work for me or it doesn't look to be made of very high quality Ingredients
The bait is nothing more than floor sweepings is not just an opinion, you are passing off something as a matter of fact. Big difference.
In reply to Post #56
"the bait didn't work for me" is a fact, not an opinion.
I think it's fair that someone can have an ill opinion based on what they have heard or seen from others.
Admittedly IP100 has a certain way with words that might exaggerate that opinion somewhat
"the bait didn't work for me" is a fact, not an opinion.
I think it's fair that someone can have an ill opinion based on what they have heard or seen from others.
Admittedly IP100 has a certain way with words that might exaggerate that opinion somewhat
In reply to Post #57
I agree Yonny, i think the danger comes when people simply regurgitate something they've read elsewhere then all of a sudden one persons opinion suddenly is made to look like half the carp angling community feel the same when the reality is if they used or saw the product first hand they may feel differently. Unfounded comments can be extremely damaging to a business as i have found out unfortunately.
I am NOT saying that is always the case or what happened on here before i get shot down.
I agree Yonny, i think the danger comes when people simply regurgitate something they've read elsewhere then all of a sudden one persons opinion suddenly is made to look like half the carp angling community feel the same when the reality is if they used or saw the product first hand they may feel differently. Unfounded comments can be extremely damaging to a business as i have found out unfortunately.
I am NOT saying that is always the case or what happened on here before i get shot down.
In reply to Post #56
Not at all chap. Go to the shows when they start again, look at the "bait" on offer at a lot of these stands, half of which you've never heard of the company, selling the euro grade floor sweepings rubbish and then go compare then to some of the better firms baits and you will see the difference in quality very easily.
So just to keep you happy, in my opinion cherry carp baits are little more than euro grade rubbish. There you go, nothing matter of fact about that is there?
Not at all chap. Go to the shows when they start again, look at the "bait" on offer at a lot of these stands, half of which you've never heard of the company, selling the euro grade floor sweepings rubbish and then go compare then to some of the better firms baits and you will see the difference in quality very easily.
So just to keep you happy, in my opinion cherry carp baits are little more than euro grade rubbish. There you go, nothing matter of fact about that is there?
In reply to Post #59
Just flicked though this thread. Opinions will always be divided but someone mentioned analysis. There are some very clever people around the bait industry and I assure you that analysing baits is already being done. If it ever comes to light then some companies will be exposed, some will have proof and others won't care one little bit. I'm all for it personally as selling flavoured cow cake for 6 quid a kilo is merely ripping off anglers who deserve a little bit more info and transparency. There is some good companies out there who work hard and honestly but they will be the ones that survive in the end. That's not a dig at any companies mentioned below
Just flicked though this thread. Opinions will always be divided but someone mentioned analysis. There are some very clever people around the bait industry and I assure you that analysing baits is already being done. If it ever comes to light then some companies will be exposed, some will have proof and others won't care one little bit. I'm all for it personally as selling flavoured cow cake for 6 quid a kilo is merely ripping off anglers who deserve a little bit more info and transparency. There is some good companies out there who work hard and honestly but they will be the ones that survive in the end. That's not a dig at any companies mentioned below