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Leads - banned in the future? (54 posts / 6,756 views)
Karlos Karlos
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Post #1 26 Mar 2025 13:59
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Just seen this post from Simon Pomeroy on Facebook

**BREAKING NEWS REFERENCE LEAD BAN**

A controversial topic for some but a real 'no brainer' to me as the facts have been there for years.
I have just received the EU Commissions recommendations to the REACH evaluation into lead in angling from research completed by the European Chemicals Agency.
I am very pleased to see that their recommendations are that there will be a phase out ban of lead angling weights.
I am also very happy to see that the recommendation in regards to purposefully ejectioning leads will be banned from 6 months of the legislation being enacted. I bought this practice to the attention of ECHA and they were, rightly so, horrified that such a reckless act was being promoted by the industry.
It is also, on several levels, positive to see that products containing a concentration of 1% of lead or more must come with the following warning clearly displayed.
WARNING: This product contains lead which is very toxic to the environment and may damage fertility, or the unborn child.
The time is here, has been for years, for the industry to do the right thing and go over to the readily available non toxic options like the following companies have already done:
Nutrabaits, Dinsmores, Energofish, Evolve Tackle, Lead Free, UFO and so many more.
If the UK industry ignores such a stark warning you really have to question their agendas?
If anyone would like any further information, especially concerned fisheries, please feel free to contact me.
Kind regards. Simon.
Goose Goose
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Post #2 26 Mar 2025 14:18
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This guy has a vested interest in banning it as the owner of palertrax if I'm not mistaken ? As we haven't really left the EU I can see this being implemented here but I will not buy anything from his company as there will be plenty of alternatives.
karmh karmh
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Post #3 26 Mar 2025 15:12
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What doesn't damage the environment lol...everything.
I only drop leads when my water gets really weedy as higher chance of landing fish obviously and no need otherwise but a few leads buried in silt in a big expanse of water wont do any harm surely. I saw those evolve tackle lead alternatives at the show. They wouldn't tell me what they were...top secret apparently 🤣 too secret to save the environment obviously!
People still have lead pipes going into their houses so 😬
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #4 26 Mar 2025 15:14
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PaulBishop PaulBishop
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Post #5 26 Mar 2025 15:14
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No conflict of interest with Pallatrax 'stonzes' then.
dannyuk32 dannyuk32
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Post #6 26 Mar 2025 15:18
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You can absolutely guarantee it would be implemented with lunatics Miliband and Starmer at the helm.
Jaspertinto
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Post #7 26 Mar 2025 15:20
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If only he would get as enthusiastic about doing something about the pollution / raw sewage being pumped into our rivers and waterways.
PaulBishop PaulBishop
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Post #8 26 Mar 2025 15:31
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No personal gain in that.
Duratec
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Post #9 26 Mar 2025 15:33
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"We" are currently going through something similar in shooting, with regards to the use of non toxic shot and rifle projectiles in the next 5 years.

Upto now, I've been in the against it camp... purely because the current crop of non toxic product offerings (ie copper/steel/etc) simply don't have the same lethality as traditional lead (IMHO), along with a few other issues relating to their suitability as an alternative.


..but when it comes to fishing weights? I'd probably be in favour!

Providing they were durable, and dense enough that they didn't now need to be twice the size or something else as daft, or cost 3 times as much.
yonny yonny
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Post #10 26 Mar 2025 16:05
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Wouldn't hold your breath lads....
EU REACH hasn't applied in the UK since brexit. Since brexit, the government demonstrated its commitment to health, safety and the environment by implementing 'UK REACH'.

Would anyone like to know how many chemicals have been added to the UK REACH SVHC (substance of very high concern) list since its inception?

None

We are miles behind lads. In that same period there's been loads of SVHCs added in Europe. The UK still uses carcinogenic flame retardants in manufacturing of furniture that have been banned in Europe for ages now. It'll be stuff like this that gets the attention once the UK decide to do something with UK REACH.... not fishing leads.

I'd also agree with other posters that Simon Pomeroy was thinking of just one thing when he brought lead in fishing to the attention of ECHA..... ££££££££. "Imo" of course.
Ged
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Post #11 26 Mar 2025 16:32
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It seems that the concern from fishing weights is purely one of ingestion.

quote from European chemical agency
"Lead fishing tackle is also frequently lost during use and can poison birds in the same way as lead gunshot and bullets, if ingested. Some contemporary fishing practices encourage the deliberate release of lead sinkers to water (called ‘dropping the lead')."

Do birds really pick up and ingest weights of 2oz+? I thought this had been alleviated with the banning of lead weights of less than 1.1oz

The proposals covering fishing.

Lead in fishing:
ban on the sale and use of lead sinkers and lures (with transition periods depending on weight: ≤ 50 g three years; > 50 g five years);
immediate ban on the sale and use of lead fishing wire; and
immediate ban on the use of lead sinkers when the sinker is deliberately released (lead ‘drop off' techniques).

I can see a point over banning lead core as the wire can break up and be ingested, but not for the larger weights. I really hope the Angling Trust fight our corner over this one.


yonny yonny
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Post #12 26 Mar 2025 16:59
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It doesn't matter what ECHA say. It has no relevance to UK REACH.
Baitman Baitman
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Post #13 26 Mar 2025 17:13
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He's a proper sausage

Always shouting about the evils of lead wherever he can, and he magically markets an alternative product...

I'd never touch a pallatrax product.
scar
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Post #14 26 Mar 2025 17:39
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The bloke is a Cockwomble.
carpe_diem carpe_diem
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Post #15 26 Mar 2025 18:19
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I had one of the stone type weights given to me once, what a load of ***** it was.
Too light and flew all over the spot, nearly ended up in next doors swim
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