Watching all the latest carping videos put out by the big names and firms on Youtube,it seems that nearly all of them are now using baitboats as a matter of course....
Time was when captures were somewhat discounted when caught using baitboats... Has everyone fallen into line and now just accept them for what they are ....??
Have to say i'm not going to be buying one but on several of the lakes i fish they absolutely dominate the waters....:( Just can't bring myself to go down that road...
Modern carping eh ... Don't you just love it.... :(
Regards Tad.
Time was when captures were somewhat discounted when caught using baitboats... Has everyone fallen into line and now just accept them for what they are ....??
Have to say i'm not going to be buying one but on several of the lakes i fish they absolutely dominate the waters....:( Just can't bring myself to go down that road...
Modern carping eh ... Don't you just love it.... :(
Regards Tad.
The pleasure in just going fishing has been overtaken by the pride in showing other people that you have caught a fish.
People need the social media likes and recognition and using a remote controlled robot to cheat the fish out makes that easy.
Thankfully there are plenty of waters that understand that some people still want to angle for their fish, not trap them with a robot.
People need the social media likes and recognition and using a remote controlled robot to cheat the fish out makes that easy.
Thankfully there are plenty of waters that understand that some people still want to angle for their fish, not trap them with a robot.
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Judging by the amount of company's out there selling them these days. There's obviously a demand. I've been an Avid non believe for many years. Sort of coming round to converting. The only thing putting me of is the price. Seen cheaper small sized family cars..
Can't even really say it's the size of them anymore. There's a few realistic sized ones out there now. That don't take up to much space and don't weigh to much. I see the likes of Adam penning are recent converts. And let's face it. If its good enough for the Messiah Mr Hearn. Then that's a good enough reason for us all to convert, isn't it..
Judging by the amount of company's out there selling them these days. There's obviously a demand. I've been an Avid non believe for many years. Sort of coming round to converting. The only thing putting me of is the price. Seen cheaper small sized family cars..
Can't even really say it's the size of them anymore. There's a few realistic sized ones out there now. That don't take up to much space and don't weigh to much. I see the likes of Adam penning are recent converts. And let's face it. If its good enough for the Messiah Mr Hearn. Then that's a good enough reason for us all to convert, isn't it..
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Tbf I used to hold the same school of thought re baitboats . . .but then I thought using anything other than a brolly / floater fishing / zigs / power barrows also fell into the same cheating category . . .
Boats are a tool like anything else and they're actually fun to use . . . its ultimately a choice and just adds to the breadth of techniques you can have in your armoury - nobodies forcing you to like or buy one - so if you don't want to, don't!
For me and as I've got older I've realised life is too short for carp fishing; so if a boats allowed and I believe it'll give me an edge I'll use it; doesn't mean I cannot cast / I have zero watercraft by default . . .and I feel no more or less satisfied with my captures whether I've used one or not . . . .and if you cant beat em / join em
Tbf I used to hold the same school of thought re baitboats . . .but then I thought using anything other than a brolly / floater fishing / zigs / power barrows also fell into the same cheating category . . .
Boats are a tool like anything else and they're actually fun to use . . . its ultimately a choice and just adds to the breadth of techniques you can have in your armoury - nobodies forcing you to like or buy one - so if you don't want to, don't!
For me and as I've got older I've realised life is too short for carp fishing; so if a boats allowed and I believe it'll give me an edge I'll use it; doesn't mean I cannot cast / I have zero watercraft by default . . .and I feel no more or less satisfied with my captures whether I've used one or not . . . .and if you cant beat em / join em
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+1 from line 3.
I've never cared what other people think as I'm fishing for my own pleasure not theirs. It's unfortunate that people feel the need to elevate themselves above others due to their own choices, can't they just enjoy their fishjng & captures without pouring scorn on others...human nature, wonderful thing
+1 from line 3.
I've never cared what other people think as I'm fishing for my own pleasure not theirs. It's unfortunate that people feel the need to elevate themselves above others due to their own choices, can't they just enjoy their fishjng & captures without pouring scorn on others...human nature, wonderful thing
Broke my PB 4 times last season and on 3 different waters and I'm sure using a bait boat helped by getting the bait and rig on the spot and stealthily. Did catch one a rod length out and literally just dapped a spod on the spot, again accuracy and stealth.
I did think about the ethics at first but my results soon put paid to that.
The other benefit is not casting into trees or bushes when you try to get tight to them. In fact one water banned casting to reduce the risk!
At the end of the day it's about personal enjoyment and I'll carry on using mine, where allowed.
I did think about the ethics at first but my results soon put paid to that.
The other benefit is not casting into trees or bushes when you try to get tight to them. In fact one water banned casting to reduce the risk!
At the end of the day it's about personal enjoyment and I'll carry on using mine, where allowed.
I use one as my shoulder is knackered and too much casting, spodding or using a marker rod leaves me in pain. Even setting up my camp can leave me in agony so i choose to use a boat as often as i can to reduce the pain. And to be honest, i realy dont care if people have an issue with that. Just go fishing and stop worrying what other people are doing, unless they are interfering with your swim or generally being a div.
Do you use alarms cos they are cheating?
Do you use alarms cos they are cheating?
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Exactly this.
I actually like using my boat with its perks of Raymarine elements and 5kg of baiting potential on one rod against a rod with a solid bag or few spombs. Do it every session where boats are allowed to see which one does the best. My last 3 sessions even though my rt7 will show fish and tell you the depths, temps hell what poop is on the deck it lost to my solid bag approach on other rods.
They are a tool and they are fun to use. More importantly if used correctly(not taking the piss going in other peoples water) they make less disturbance which benefits your neighboring anglers and saves a hell of a lot of time which when I get to a lake on a Friday evening is great.
Exactly this.
I actually like using my boat with its perks of Raymarine elements and 5kg of baiting potential on one rod against a rod with a solid bag or few spombs. Do it every session where boats are allowed to see which one does the best. My last 3 sessions even though my rt7 will show fish and tell you the depths, temps hell what poop is on the deck it lost to my solid bag approach on other rods.
They are a tool and they are fun to use. More importantly if used correctly(not taking the piss going in other peoples water) they make less disturbance which benefits your neighboring anglers and saves a hell of a lot of time which when I get to a lake on a Friday evening is great.
Just like everything, if used appropriately then it can be a good thing.
Think the issue for me comes when people are using them to easily castable spots, too far out their fishable water and impacting on others, putting baits where they shouldn't or being a nuisance to others.
For me it's a no go, not that I have a need for one.
Think the issue for me comes when people are using them to easily castable spots, too far out their fishable water and impacting on others, putting baits where they shouldn't or being a nuisance to others.
For me it's a no go, not that I have a need for one.
Dont use them wont use them unless health wise i cant cast anymore. ... but in answer to your question Tad they are accepted as the norm by the vast majority. Ive reached the stage where it just makes me more determined to catch without one i try not too let my veiws on them ruin my time fishing.... another year or two and drones wil be regarded in the same way. The only time i get xxxxed off about it is if they are actualy banned then i hit the roof.
Nah, I could eventually go to a stock pond full of 50's and scoop one out with a net.
Effort = reward, I like to go fishing, not catching using AI or whatever.
The bite alarm analogy is rubbish, it's just another form of indication, without which you'd never catch.
Lazy b'stards.
Effort = reward, I like to go fishing, not catching using AI or whatever.
The bite alarm analogy is rubbish, it's just another form of indication, without which you'd never catch.
Lazy b'stards.
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Are they the norm?
By the amount of bait boat threads on here you would think so.
There's always question about which one to buy, what ones are the most reliable, what ones are not.
What GPS to put on it, what fish finder, other electronic gizmos
What type of battery, how long do they last, how many batteries do I need, how do I charge them.
What solar panel.
Best way to put rig in hopper.
How to spread the bait.
What courier to use to send them back when they go wrong.
Who does the best repairs
Are spares available?
I won't go on about the use, abuse and a host of other questions, that'll do for now, the list goes on.
Unless you have a disability they seem very expensive and by the number of threads on here it makes me wonder if they are more trouble than they are worth.
oh one last thing. Boat users complaining about those that cast because they don't like the splosh they make
Are they the norm?
By the amount of bait boat threads on here you would think so.
There's always question about which one to buy, what ones are the most reliable, what ones are not.
What GPS to put on it, what fish finder, other electronic gizmos
What type of battery, how long do they last, how many batteries do I need, how do I charge them.
What solar panel.
Best way to put rig in hopper.
How to spread the bait.
What courier to use to send them back when they go wrong.
Who does the best repairs
Are spares available?
I won't go on about the use, abuse and a host of other questions, that'll do for now, the list goes on.
Unless you have a disability they seem very expensive and by the number of threads on here it makes me wonder if they are more trouble than they are worth.
oh one last thing. Boat users complaining about those that cast because they don't like the splosh they make
Anyone got a Deeper boat yet?
Ive had a Broadlands baitboat for the last 20 years but rarely used it.
I purchased a ND2 last year and its changed my fishing, has it made me more lazier 100% but its also upped my catch rate from little time i have.
I can only use it on of my waters i fish but i couldn't look back now.
I purchased a ND2 last year and its changed my fishing, has it made me more lazier 100% but its also upped my catch rate from little time i have.
I can only use it on of my waters i fish but i couldn't look back now.
Use one or dont use one, it doesnt bother me as i dont fish these type of waters, so not close to being normal in my world.
If I dont cast or bait the spot by hand or rod, then the sense of achievment or credibility just isnt there. The only caveat for this for me is if you are physically unable to cast.
There is zero comparison to using bite alarms, power barrows and other tech or comfort items etc
If I dont cast or bait the spot by hand or rod, then the sense of achievment or credibility just isnt there. The only caveat for this for me is if you are physically unable to cast.
There is zero comparison to using bite alarms, power barrows and other tech or comfort items etc