just seena video that gardner are showing their new alarms at the Essex carp show next weekend, it looks decent on the video I seen, not sure on features etc
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Looks like it's got a speaker. Exciting product. I think they promised a speaker version when the attx came out but it never materialised.
Looks like it's got a speaker. Exciting product. I think they promised a speaker version when the attx came out but it never materialised.
Any links? Might be just what I want. Was thinking about a set of TLB+'s.
ive just seen the short announcement video
sign me up
take my money
ive got a tackle wood
sign me up
take my money
ive got a tackle wood
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Linky poo please.
Linky poo please.
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https://fb.watch/xmTpmEsy01/
https://fb.watch/xmTpmEsy01/
So, a revamped TLB+
it's a atts steve neville love child
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gotta say, it looks absolutely spot on
gotta say, it looks absolutely spot on
been a long term user of Att's and will definatly be getting some
Why is having a speaker so important,I never have the volume on my alarms anyway
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One of the best thing about ATT's = no speaker.
One of the best thing about ATT's = no speaker.
does that mean they're doing away with the TLB+?
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I think that's why so reliable,less places for water ingress
I think that's why so reliable,less places for water ingress
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I would have to agree, and arguably the main selling point.
No speaker, no controls means easier to waterproof and lower cost. Don't really see the point in just adding a speaker when you already have the TLB+.
What they really need is a bit of sensitivity adjustment or some speed sensing in the circuit. I know you can swap the wheels but who wants to do that out in the rain when the weather changes.
If they have added that as well as the speaker then a worthwhile update and I'd probably get another set (although never use the speaker!)
I would have to agree, and arguably the main selling point.
No speaker, no controls means easier to waterproof and lower cost. Don't really see the point in just adding a speaker when you already have the TLB+.
What they really need is a bit of sensitivity adjustment or some speed sensing in the circuit. I know you can swap the wheels but who wants to do that out in the rain when the weather changes.
If they have added that as well as the speaker then a worthwhile update and I'd probably get another set (although never use the speaker!)
Looks like they've lengthed the sides as well. Making it a bit harder for the old rod to slip of on a violent take. Looks a bit like A Nev and ATTs love child.. 
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Yes mate, TLB is/has been discontinued according to a GT reply on faceache
Yes mate, TLB is/has been discontinued according to a GT reply on faceache
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It just comes with the snag backs as standard now. You could get those before. Only thing different is the speaker.
It just comes with the snag backs as standard now. You could get those before. Only thing different is the speaker.
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They have anti rock apparently... This is what dal sent me a couple years ago
"They are pretty bomb proof too, better radio gear than Nev, but offset is the heads are silent (currently, mums the word but I've just designed a new one with audio on
)
mega waterproof and the anti rock is a bit better than the Nev one as that is time based, the ATT is actuation based hence the mags both side of the wheel
"
They have anti rock apparently... This is what dal sent me a couple years ago
"They are pretty bomb proof too, better radio gear than Nev, but offset is the heads are silent (currently, mums the word but I've just designed a new one with audio on
)mega waterproof and the anti rock is a bit better than the Nev one as that is time based, the ATT is actuation based hence the mags both side of the wheel
"
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Ok
I will bite
What it anti rock ??
Ok
I will bite
What it anti rock ??
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Easy listening for the hard of hearing.
Easy listening for the hard of hearing.
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The problem with alarms with magnets in the roller is that if the magnet is in a position that it is hovering around the sensor and you have waves or weed on your line it can rock back and forth over the sensor as the line bobs. This gives you big issues with false bleeps. You used to have to manually move the magnet away from the sensor, but any undertow or build up of weed and it could move back again.
If the ‘anti rock' helps with this then they are onto a winner. I'd hope they might put the same tech into the non speaker version, but seems unlikely.
The problem with alarms with magnets in the roller is that if the magnet is in a position that it is hovering around the sensor and you have waves or weed on your line it can rock back and forth over the sensor as the line bobs. This gives you big issues with false bleeps. You used to have to manually move the magnet away from the sensor, but any undertow or build up of weed and it could move back again.
If the ‘anti rock' helps with this then they are onto a winner. I'd hope they might put the same tech into the non speaker version, but seems unlikely.
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I thought the older version already had the anti rock feature
I thought the older version already had the anti rock feature
Yep they already have anti rock.
So they've updated the casing to make it more modern and functional and added a speaker..
So no longer waterproof.
Do they come with a Gardner black bag for each head when it rains ?
So they've updated the casing to make it more modern and functional and added a speaker..
So no longer waterproof.
Do they come with a Gardner black bag for each head when it rains ?
Did they have the anti rock from the start or was it added to later models? Mine must have been from around 2010 and if they did have that feature it didn't work 
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I've just looked and it's on the underlit ones not sure about the original ones
I've just looked and it's on the underlit ones not sure about the original ones
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I did not know that. I've been bad mouthing the ATTS as useless in any kind of big weather for years but maybe the newer ones were actually ok
I did not know that. I've been bad mouthing the ATTS as useless in any kind of big weather for years but maybe the newer ones were actually ok
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It's funny to think that the first alarm to have some sort of "anti rock" built into it was the much maligned Daiwa Sensitron back in the nineties.
It's funny to think that the first alarm to have some sort of "anti rock" built into it was the much maligned Daiwa Sensitron back in the nineties.
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Shame they forgot the anti-damp
Shame they forgot the anti-damp
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1st alarms I had. That and Shakespeare 1.25lb test curve rods, over Walthamstow. Caught aswell pub chucking to no man's land lol
1st alarms I had. That and Shakespeare 1.25lb test curve rods, over Walthamstow. Caught aswell pub chucking to no man's land lol
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Quality alarms I made my own sounder box for them . Was powered from their output jacks worked remarkably well.
Albeit if the weather conditions were in the slightest damp you had to revert to bottle tops.
Quality alarms I made my own sounder box for them . Was powered from their output jacks worked remarkably well.
Albeit if the weather conditions were in the slightest damp you had to revert to bottle tops.
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Anyone seen theese in the flesh at the show?
Anyone seen theese in the flesh at the show?
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Yes, had a quick look. Not much more to them than the originals. Apart from the obvious speaker. Which you can switch the sound from the head to the sounder box by turning the speaker cover round a notch. Compatible with both receivers. And not forgetting extended sides
Yes, had a quick look. Not much more to them than the originals. Apart from the obvious speaker. Which you can switch the sound from the head to the sounder box by turning the speaker cover round a notch. Compatible with both receivers. And not forgetting extended sides
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are you saying the speaker has a cover to reduce the volume?
extendable sides?
are you saying the speaker has a cover to reduce the volume?
extendable sides?
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Snag ears,
Snag ears,
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Extended sides/ snag ears what ever you like to call them.
You can switch from sound on the receiver. To sound on the alarm. By turning the alarm speaker cover round a notch. Speaker cover is basically a switch. Hope that makes sense.
Extended sides/ snag ears what ever you like to call them.
You can switch from sound on the receiver. To sound on the alarm. By turning the alarm speaker cover round a notch. Speaker cover is basically a switch. Hope that makes sense.
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It does make sense. Like a dial.
It does make sense. Like a dial.
I saw the alarm at the Essex Carp Show
They look quality. But isn't the main attraction of these alarms the fact that they are super waterproof. Now they have added a volume switch not so waterproof
I've got the att's but I will deffo be getting the new ones 😊
They will be £90 each
I've also got Delks
I think I'm a bit of a tackle tart
I remember a carp angler saying to me, once you start buying gear it gets addictive 😊
They look quality. But isn't the main attraction of these alarms the fact that they are super waterproof. Now they have added a volume switch not so waterproof
I've got the att's but I will deffo be getting the new ones 😊
They will be £90 each
I've also got Delks
I think I'm a bit of a tackle tart
I remember a carp angler saying to me, once you start buying gear it gets addictive 😊
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any release date??
any release date??
saw a demo on one of the youtube channels from someone walking around the carpshow (SiFishes?)
I think the gardner rep said that they would be in shops in the autumn.
I think the gardner rep said that they would be in shops in the autumn.
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I've asked Matt Eaton who is an angler for Gardner. He was also talking to people about the alarms at the carp show
He said all he knows is sometime this Spring
I've asked Matt Eaton who is an angler for Gardner. He was also talking to people about the alarms at the carp show
He said all he knows is sometime this Spring
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They are on the boat now he reckons, he did admit they are not as waterproof as the original ATTS alarms due to the speaker and switch as expected I guess. £89.99 per head and you can use them with the existing receivers.
They are on the boat now he reckons, he did admit they are not as waterproof as the original ATTS alarms due to the speaker and switch as expected I guess. £89.99 per head and you can use them with the existing receivers.
I suppose they have added volume to the actual alarm,because if the receiver dies or you forget to take it with you then the alarms are not much use. Well they definitely wouldn't be any use for night fishing
They have compromised their big selling point by adding a volume dial though. The fact that they used to be 99% waterproof
I have my alarms on silent at night anyway,and have the receiver set to vibrate
But I suppose you can still use the new version at night even if the receiver dies on you
I have Delkim alarms also but I do love my ATTs
I've not used my Delks for a while and I think I've forgotten all the button presses already
At least with the ATTs there is nothing to forget
I deffo will be buying the new ones though lol
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what alarms you have you can't beat the sound of one of them bleeping into action
I say doesn't matter what alarms you have,but you don't want alarm that die on you as soon as it rains heavily
And I'm not talking about my Delks now either 😂
They have compromised their big selling point by adding a volume dial though. The fact that they used to be 99% waterproof
I have my alarms on silent at night anyway,and have the receiver set to vibrate
But I suppose you can still use the new version at night even if the receiver dies on you
I have Delkim alarms also but I do love my ATTs
I've not used my Delks for a while and I think I've forgotten all the button presses already
At least with the ATTs there is nothing to forget
I deffo will be buying the new ones though lol
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what alarms you have you can't beat the sound of one of them bleeping into action
I say doesn't matter what alarms you have,but you don't want alarm that die on you as soon as it rains heavily
And I'm not talking about my Delks now either 😂
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These look brilliant
Does anyone know when they'll be out?
These look brilliant
Does anyone know when they'll be out?
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About 10mins after I buy some new alarms most likely
About 10mins after I buy some new alarms most likely
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Any news on these?
Any news on these?
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I've heard August. Looking at a set myself.
I've heard August. Looking at a set myself.
Wickersley Angling have a little preview on their you tube channel.
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Has anyone seen them in person yet, now they're released in shops? I'm keen to see them.
Has anyone seen them in person yet, now they're released in shops? I'm keen to see them.
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Saw them at the big one in Farnborough earlier this year. Slightly bigger than the atts buzzer
Saw them at the big one in Farnborough earlier this year. Slightly bigger than the atts buzzer
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Hey, thanks man, must've watched this three times already 😂 I'm after seeing if anyone's had their hands on them yet for feedback.
Hey, thanks man, must've watched this three times already 😂 I'm after seeing if anyone's had their hands on them yet for feedback.
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Had a look at some today. Not a great deal to say that's not picked up in the video's. Non adjustable volume is set to a moderate level, probably loud enough for 90% of the time, but if like me me you like to fish in the face of a howling wind, with a brolly between me and my rods I think I'd need the extension box. Tone is set towards the high side. The rotating speaker switch seems fairly solid and positive in action, certainly not sloppy or loose. One thing I've not seen mentioned before is that they come with a rubber speaker cover (unless these were seperate accessories) there is a central plug that goes into the centre of the speaker and four little tabs that should fit into the slots around the edge of the speaker, the tabs were difficult to fit. I presume this is for waterproofing as it didn't seem to make alot of difference to the volume. They seem a well made solid alarm, the only thing I would have liked to have seen is a redesign of the backs to lessen the chances of the line going to the side of the roller.
Had a look at some today. Not a great deal to say that's not picked up in the video's. Non adjustable volume is set to a moderate level, probably loud enough for 90% of the time, but if like me me you like to fish in the face of a howling wind, with a brolly between me and my rods I think I'd need the extension box. Tone is set towards the high side. The rotating speaker switch seems fairly solid and positive in action, certainly not sloppy or loose. One thing I've not seen mentioned before is that they come with a rubber speaker cover (unless these were seperate accessories) there is a central plug that goes into the centre of the speaker and four little tabs that should fit into the slots around the edge of the speaker, the tabs were difficult to fit. I presume this is for waterproofing as it didn't seem to make alot of difference to the volume. They seem a well made solid alarm, the only thing I would have liked to have seen is a redesign of the backs to lessen the chances of the line going to the side of the roller.
I ordered 2 which arrived today. Feel just like the ATTs. I was going to get a third illuminated wheel alarm but I like the high snag ears so purchasing the accessories with the standard atts illuminated wheel alarm brings it close to the current rrp of the ATTa alarms. The Fishing Outlet just had a 20% off any item sale on the weekend and they had the new ATTa alarms so I thought I'd get 2 and replace one of my ATTs alarms.
Prefer the new covers to the replacement neoprene covers you get with the high snag ears.
The ATTa covers do fit over the ATTs with high snag ears but they are a bit loose.
They come with the 2 magnet wheel, booklet says they come with the 4 for some reason.
Not sure why the speaker rubber grommet cover is included, a bit fiddly to make sure 4 little rubber tabs stay in the recesses on the speaker, it also obviously covers the arrow on the speaker when you twist it to turn the speaker on and off.
Prefer the new covers to the replacement neoprene covers you get with the high snag ears.
The ATTa covers do fit over the ATTs with high snag ears but they are a bit loose.
They come with the 2 magnet wheel, booklet says they come with the 4 for some reason.
Not sure why the speaker rubber grommet cover is included, a bit fiddly to make sure 4 little rubber tabs stay in the recesses on the speaker, it also obviously covers the arrow on the speaker when you twist it to turn the speaker on and off.
Received an email from Gardner, the speaker cover is apparently to reduce the volume of the speaker. I haven't found a difference but perhaps if you got a meter on it it would show a difference.
They are also meant to come with the 2 magnet wheels even though the booklet says 4.
They are also meant to come with the 2 magnet wheels even though the booklet says 4.
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