Can anyone recommend a marker float set up that doesn't tangle and the float actually comes up. I currently use the korda one and it's ridiculously temperamental. Is a stem that important?
Thanks in advance 👍
Thanks in advance 👍
In reply to Post #1
I use the korda one and it's fine, never tangles
I use the korda one and it's fine, never tangles
In reply to Post #1
I use the large Korda balsa wood one with the little boom section to the lead. I have noticed that if i forget to add the little plastic thingy that covers the swivel on the bottom of the float it can cause issues
I use the large Korda balsa wood one with the little boom section to the lead. I have noticed that if i forget to add the little plastic thingy that covers the swivel on the bottom of the float it can cause issues
In reply to Post #1
I've gone back to markering the old fashioned way.
Lead on the end of the line, a tubular float, bead and stop knot at the required depth. All that on a 25lb mono leader and then braid behind.
Float comes up every time (in really thick weed put in a swivel 2 ft above the lead) and with the stop knot set at the rough depth in one cast I can find deeper/shallower spots as well as weed vs clear.
If I'm mapping spots accurately then I use 2 rods - one set up as above for the detail and one set the other way (float on the end of the line) just chucked out as a fixed point.
I've gone back to markering the old fashioned way.
Lead on the end of the line, a tubular float, bead and stop knot at the required depth. All that on a 25lb mono leader and then braid behind.
Float comes up every time (in really thick weed put in a swivel 2 ft above the lead) and with the stop knot set at the rough depth in one cast I can find deeper/shallower spots as well as weed vs clear.
If I'm mapping spots accurately then I use 2 rods - one set up as above for the detail and one set the other way (float on the end of the line) just chucked out as a fixed point.
I've got an ols Nash one, can't remember what it was called, its more bulbous than the stick shaped ones. Never had a problem with it other than the stem it came with was breaking so i I replaced it with some very heavy stiff nylon. I suppose the thin stick shaped ones are for aerodynamics, unless you're casting a long way I think a bigger body is better.
If you're struggling with the float coming up use a mono leader, amnesia.
Though you loose a little feel.
Very rarely use a marker, braid rod with just a lead.
Though you loose a little feel.
Very rarely use a marker, braid rod with just a lead.
In reply to Post #1
Thinking anglers do a marker float kit with a boom and bead.
I use this with the Korda float and have never had a problem. From memory i got it because i lost the cover for the swivel on the float
Thinking anglers do a marker float kit with a boom and bead.
I use this with the Korda float and have never had a problem. From memory i got it because i lost the cover for the swivel on the float
In reply to Post #1
Freespirit SLite marker / run ring kit . . if you attach your float with a big loop (to enable quick spomb swop on the same rod) the knot can sometimes hinder the float rising - these rings are lined and alleviate the prob . . .
Freespirit SLite marker / run ring kit . . if you attach your float with a big loop (to enable quick spomb swop on the same rod) the knot can sometimes hinder the float rising - these rings are lined and alleviate the prob . . .
In reply to Post #1
If you can still find one try the nash spot on marker float they seem to eliminate any tangles and pops up every time as the line is threaded through the front of the marker float.
If you can still find one try the nash spot on marker float they seem to eliminate any tangles and pops up every time as the line is threaded through the front of the marker float.
In reply to Post #1
Have you thought about just using a lead without the float? A float isn't really needed to find a spot.
Marker and spodding can be done with one rod and one reel far quicker .
Have you thought about just using a lead without the float? A float isn't really needed to find a spot.
Marker and spodding can be done with one rod and one reel far quicker .
In reply to Post #7
Thinking anglers do a marker float kit with a boom and bead.
+1.
Thinking anglers do a marker float kit with a boom and bead.
+1.
In reply to Post #1
I still use MCF marker floats and they are great, no issue in the float rising which was an issue with the previous Fox ones I was using
I still use MCF marker floats and they are great, no issue in the float rising which was an issue with the previous Fox ones I was using
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You're missing out if this is what you do. Sure you can feel about abit but you would be unable to find the bottom of slopes, holes, shallow plateaus etc,
You're missing out if this is what you do. Sure you can feel about abit but you would be unable to find the bottom of slopes, holes, shallow plateaus etc,
In reply to Post #13
No you don't. You can find all of those with just a lead if you know what you're doing
No you don't. You can find all of those with just a lead if you know what you're doing
In reply to Post #14
Agreed
Agreed
In reply to Post #14
So from left to right in front of you is 20ft, down to 23ft for 2 rod lengths and back up to 20ft on the right, How you finding that?
So from left to right in front of you is 20ft, down to 23ft for 2 rod lengths and back up to 20ft on the right, How you finding that?
In reply to Post #16
With a Deeper
With a Deeper
In reply to Post #17
Yeah exactly, ain't finding what I described with just a lead
Yeah exactly, ain't finding what I described with just a lead
Sure you can feel about abit but you would be unable to find the bottom of slopes
It's very easy with just a lead as the resistance changes, on the flat easy pull, up a slope more difficult, down a slope much easier. I'd go so far as to say having a float on removes the sensitivity of the lead as it makes it come down the slope much faster if you keep any sort of tension on the line. Even if you don't, if you think your mid slope and try to depth gauge it by tensioning up it'll dislodge the lead and you won't get a depth. The only way round that is a excessively heavy lead v type of float.
Besides, ime if you're looking for a slope/bar you've already decided you're fishing it front back or sides so depth isn't really important.
It's very easy with just a lead as the resistance changes, on the flat easy pull, up a slope more difficult, down a slope much easier. I'd go so far as to say having a float on removes the sensitivity of the lead as it makes it come down the slope much faster if you keep any sort of tension on the line. Even if you don't, if you think your mid slope and try to depth gauge it by tensioning up it'll dislodge the lead and you won't get a depth. The only way round that is a excessively heavy lead v type of float.
Besides, ime if you're looking for a slope/bar you've already decided you're fishing it front back or sides so depth isn't really important.
In reply to Post #18
You can with experience.
And you need to know what you're doing of course.
You can with experience.
And you need to know what you're doing of course.
In reply to Post #18
Not true. Practice makes perfect!
Not true. Practice makes perfect!
In reply to Post #21
I've no doubt you get better with practice, but without checking your findings with a marker float, or echo sounder, how do you confirm you are correct, in order to gain the correct experience?
I've no doubt you get better with practice, but without checking your findings with a marker float, or echo sounder, how do you confirm you are correct, in order to gain the correct experience?
In reply to Post #22
Leaning how to count a lead down is your biggest help. Some vids on YouTube about it.
Too many people get hung up on depth. All you really need to know is the deepest and shallowest parts of your lake, even that's not that important if you let the fish tell you where they are.
Leaning how to count a lead down is your biggest help. Some vids on YouTube about it.
Too many people get hung up on depth. All you really need to know is the deepest and shallowest parts of your lake, even that's not that important if you let the fish tell you where they are.
In reply to Post #22
Of course, you use the float until competent enough to not need it. It's worth doing because the float adds so much more disturbance to the swim
Of course, you use the float until competent enough to not need it. It's worth doing because the float adds so much more disturbance to the swim
In reply to Post #20
Guess all of us that use a lead, then add the float to find out more are mere novices compared to yourself. I'm in awe.
Guess all of us that use a lead, then add the float to find out more are mere novices compared to yourself. I'm in awe.
In reply to Post #25
Yep, just get a bait boat with feature finder, no need to thrash the water to death then either
Joke and seriously, if you can do either why not!
Yep, just get a bait boat with feature finder, no need to thrash the water to death then either
Joke and seriously, if you can do either why not!
In reply to Post #23
Not so sure about that myself - finding what depth the fish are 'at' (whether they hanging in the upper layers at 5ft in 20ft or sitting hard on the deck on a 5ft plateau in 8ft) is pretty key IMO . . .this can obvs change throughout any time period when fishing but just knowing the deepest and shallowest areas (whilst useful) and nothing in between makes no sense . . .
Not so sure about that myself - finding what depth the fish are 'at' (whether they hanging in the upper layers at 5ft in 20ft or sitting hard on the deck on a 5ft plateau in 8ft) is pretty key IMO . . .this can obvs change throughout any time period when fishing but just knowing the deepest and shallowest areas (whilst useful) and nothing in between makes no sense . . .
Sonar, Marker Float, just a lead.
All have their day given situation.
Saying that, if you have a Deeper then you don't need a Marker Float these days.
If you don't have a Sonar, to say you don't need a marker float is obviously a stupid argument.
I use a lead with braid 80% of the time, but in some situations you do need a marker float.
And I've been in this game 40 years.
All have their day given situation.
Saying that, if you have a Deeper then you don't need a Marker Float these days.
If you don't have a Sonar, to say you don't need a marker float is obviously a stupid argument.
I use a lead with braid 80% of the time, but in some situations you do need a marker float.
And I've been in this game 40 years.
In reply to Post #23
I agree. Apart from zigs. Only time I'll ever consider getting the float out.
I agree. Apart from zigs. Only time I'll ever consider getting the float out.
In reply to Post #33
Still think a marker has its place; I too prefer a bare lead (in conjunction with deeper / bboat sonar) most of the time to fully explore or check an 'area' however markers are great for margin fishing where you cannot clearly see the spot (overhanging canopies etc) and you are sometimes wading out / casting around a corner or overhang etc. . . . .
Still think a marker has its place; I too prefer a bare lead (in conjunction with deeper / bboat sonar) most of the time to fully explore or check an 'area' however markers are great for margin fishing where you cannot clearly see the spot (overhanging canopies etc) and you are sometimes wading out / casting around a corner or overhang etc. . . . .
Because I'm a 99% day angler I rarely use a marker and can't remember the last time I did during the session, but I will sometimes use it before packing up if I've had fish off an open water spot, to see if there was any obvious reason.
Also agree to an extent regards depths and why getting over this way of thinking is helpful, Mr Crabtree told us where they should feed and sometimes it takes us longer to work out they will be where they are on a particular day for no apparent reason.
Also agree to an extent regards depths and why getting over this way of thinking is helpful, Mr Crabtree told us where they should feed and sometimes it takes us longer to work out they will be where they are on a particular day for no apparent reason.
In reply to Post #1
Trakker zig float kit without the hook link.
It's about all it's good for
Trakker zig float kit without the hook link.
It's about all it's good for
In reply to Post #20
Rather than DM'ing me like you did TeddyBare, where in the thread did I get schooled?
Absolute keyboard warrior, feel free to take this to social media, we can discuss this and put faces to names
Rather than DM'ing me like you did TeddyBare, where in the thread did I get schooled?
Absolute keyboard warrior, feel free to take this to social media, we can discuss this and put faces to names
In reply to Post #38
Honestly, you don't need a float 😘
Honestly, you don't need a float 😘
In reply to Post #39
See you in Selby
See you in Selby
In reply to Post #40
Or Eggborough 👍
Or Eggborough 👍
In reply to Post #41
Both local, sound
Both local, sound
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