Hi , who does the warmest thermals ? Looking at keeping warm on the river chasing barbel so no sleeping bag etc , got snugpak top layer
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M&S thermals AND get some Craghopper winter lined trousers you wont beat that combination
M&S thermals AND get some Craghopper winter lined trousers you wont beat that combination
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I have some very warm Swedish ones that I have had for a good few years and they are better than any others I have but they only come out when it's really cold
I will find the name of them for you
I bought the wife a set of ultra warms from Uniqlo and she loves them and she always moans she's cold..
So I may buy a set from them for myself just for work
I have some very warm Swedish ones that I have had for a good few years and they are better than any others I have but they only come out when it's really cold
I will find the name of them for you
I bought the wife a set of ultra warms from Uniqlo and she loves them and she always moans she's cold..
So I may buy a set from them for myself just for work
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Don't bother with the Tracker stuff , I got them and the stitching/seems make them very uncomfortable against your skin , even after a few good washes .
Don't bother with the Tracker stuff , I got them and the stitching/seems make them very uncomfortable against your skin , even after a few good washes .
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The stitched seams on long johns will try and cut your balls off...
Wear them inside out for comfort
And the same is true for your underpants
The stitched seams on long johns will try and cut your balls off...
Wear them inside out for comfort
And the same is true for your underpants
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For the weight of a small power bank have you thought about using a heated jacket/gillet/jumper? I'm coming round to that idea myself for day sessions, even been looking at the Preston innovations heat mat for my chair!
I think my skin layer is under armour but I cant compare it as thats all I've used when using a skin layer.
For the weight of a small power bank have you thought about using a heated jacket/gillet/jumper? I'm coming round to that idea myself for day sessions, even been looking at the Preston innovations heat mat for my chair!
I think my skin layer is under armour but I cant compare it as thats all I've used when using a skin layer.
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Best I had was the Sundridge Sleep Skin. Don't know whether they still do them, Daiwa also had their own branded one too. £30 I paid for my last set
Best I had was the Sundridge Sleep Skin. Don't know whether they still do them, Daiwa also had their own branded one too. £30 I paid for my last set
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Merino wool is what you want and pay attention to the weights, moisture wicking too.
Icebreaker and smart wool are quality brands, expensive, but top quality
I have some OEX stuff, not bad for the price, GoOutdoors for this, see base layers
Alternately there are lots of warm moisture wicking synthetics, see the Rab and Montane stuff etc
Merino wool is what you want and pay attention to the weights, moisture wicking too.
Icebreaker and smart wool are quality brands, expensive, but top quality
I have some OEX stuff, not bad for the price, GoOutdoors for this, see base layers
Alternately there are lots of warm moisture wicking synthetics, see the Rab and Montane stuff etc
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I use Icebreaker. It isn't cheap.i have various thickness.
I bought most of mine in the summer when it's sold of at a discount.
I use Icebreaker. It isn't cheap.i have various thickness.
I bought most of mine in the summer when it's sold of at a discount.
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I think my skin layer is under armour but I cant compare it as thats all I've used when using a skin layer.
No its not, its Snugpak Skinz
I love Merino wool jumpers and socks but I find it itchy at times as a hat or on torso skin, don't have that problem with the Skinz, I assume because its synthetic.
I think my skin layer is under armour but I cant compare it as thats all I've used when using a skin layer.
No its not, its Snugpak Skinz
I love Merino wool jumpers and socks but I find it itchy at times as a hat or on torso skin, don't have that problem with the Skinz, I assume because its synthetic.
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Wish i had, i saw the prices drop and then thought, i don't need any right now
Wish i had, i saw the prices drop and then thought, i don't need any right now
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I bought a dirt cheap base layer set from Mountain Warehouse a few years back now, I very rarely use it but it is an absolute game changer when really cold out!
I bought a dirt cheap base layer set from Mountain Warehouse a few years back now, I very rarely use it but it is an absolute game changer when really cold out!
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Military Surplus many options , cheap too, did a quick search here-
https://www.surplusandlost.co.uk/product-category/clothing/base-layer/
Thinks the ones I have are German, and must have had them 10 years now - no signs of wear at all, and they work. I go Pike, Chub, Graying & Barbel fishing in all weather's over the winter.
Military Surplus
many options , cheap too, did a quick search here-https://www.surplusandlost.co.uk/product-category/clothing/base-layer/
Thinks the ones I have are German, and must have had them 10 years now - no signs of wear at all, and they work. I go Pike, Chub, Graying & Barbel fishing in all weather's over the winter.
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Woolpower from Sweden
https://www.woolpower.uk/
Woolpower from Sweden
https://www.woolpower.uk/
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Best I had was the Sundridge Sleep Skin. Don't know whether they still do them, Daiwa also had their own branded one too. £30 I paid for my last set
Me too ... Still wear mine
Best I had was the Sundridge Sleep Skin. Don't know whether they still do them, Daiwa also had their own branded one too. £30 I paid for my last set
Me too ... Still wear mine
Dainese..
There's so much stuff out there that's reputed to be amazing, truth is nothing comes anywhere near the proper base layers that bikers use. Not cheap. Maybe nowadays £150 a set, but nothing comes close, especially if it's windy..
Just finished 4 nights, -1 to -3 every night, tempest stayed frozen for the whole time, no front on it, just these thermals and cheap TK maxx joggers over the top, and a fleecy jacket again from TK Maxx.. fishing brands are simply rubbish.. Still plenty of sheep buy them..
There's so much stuff out there that's reputed to be amazing, truth is nothing comes anywhere near the proper base layers that bikers use. Not cheap. Maybe nowadays £150 a set, but nothing comes close, especially if it's windy..
Just finished 4 nights, -1 to -3 every night, tempest stayed frozen for the whole time, no front on it, just these thermals and cheap TK maxx joggers over the top, and a fleecy jacket again from TK Maxx.. fishing brands are simply rubbish.. Still plenty of sheep buy them..
The best ones I've found so far were M&S merino wool ones but they have to be the white ones, really thick, soft and fluffy. They lasted me years and only replaced them last year as I decided they had probably seen better days.
I bought the highest rated M&S ones I could find but they are black and sadly nowhere near as effective as my old white set.
I bought the highest rated M&S ones I could find but they are black and sadly nowhere near as effective as my old white set.
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Smartwool Merino / Icebreaker / Patagonia Capeline
Smartwool Merino / Icebreaker / Patagonia Capeline
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Don't know about that, I have an Alpinestars winter one, good, but can't say it's any better than an OEX one that I have for half the price 
Not tried it on the bank though, might do next time lol
Agree about fishing branded clothing though, can be hit and miss that, if your not looking for trends the mountaineering stuff takes some beating for me too
Don't know about that, I have an Alpinestars winter one, good, but can't say it's any better than an OEX one that I have for half the price
Not tried it on the bank though, might do next time lol
Agree about fishing branded clothing though, can be hit and miss that, if your not looking for trends the mountaineering stuff takes some beating for me too
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I would check the wool content, a lot of companies are lowering it to cut costs
I would check the wool content, a lot of companies are lowering it to cut costs
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Alpinestars ain't Dainese though mate, these are Gore windstopper panels in all the right places, no other base layers come close including mountaineering gear..
Alpinestars ain't Dainese though mate, these are Gore windstopper panels in all the right places, no other base layers come close including mountaineering gear..
I've got merino base layers from a hundred weight to two sixty for biking and fishing but it's vital that your mid layer is also breathable and wicks moisture away and it all starts to get very expensive so it far cheaper to stay in your sleeping bag and keep the hot water bottle going. Was on chesil beach all night last week in minus three but a north easterly wind chill of minus eight. Heavy weight merino base and mid layer, 800 fp down jacket and offshore sailing salopettes and jacket but I would never pay that money for carp fishing when you have a bivvy and bedchair and as keeping bag to curl up in.
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Not seen them but Gore is quality stuff and Dainese
Not seen them but Gore is quality stuff and Dainese
Odlo - the best money can buy.
Interesting thread, as I was thinking of a new winter outfit. And really don't like most of the Carp Tax offerings, especially in 'camo'.
For me, I've always liked warm clothing when the skin can breathe, not build up sweat - which then leads to getting cold. I'm amazed that some of the cheaper ones work - fair play to those that have found this to be the case. I think Merino wool is great.
I've got a north face parka that is hugely warm, so I am going to stick with that. But I'll need to get waterproof bottoms, so will go with the prologic bib/brace (and suck up the carp tax).
Footwear is really tricky too, and the winter clothing threads have been a great read. The difference of experience of expensive boots is interesting, and like someone pointed out, could be the sock.
I've just bought some Northface winter books, they were expensive (to me), but cheaper than some of the footwear suggestions in the other thread.
Let's see.
For me, I've always liked warm clothing when the skin can breathe, not build up sweat - which then leads to getting cold. I'm amazed that some of the cheaper ones work - fair play to those that have found this to be the case. I think Merino wool is great.
I've got a north face parka that is hugely warm, so I am going to stick with that. But I'll need to get waterproof bottoms, so will go with the prologic bib/brace (and suck up the carp tax).
Footwear is really tricky too, and the winter clothing threads have been a great read. The difference of experience of expensive boots is interesting, and like someone pointed out, could be the sock.
I've just bought some Northface winter books, they were expensive (to me), but cheaper than some of the footwear suggestions in the other thread.
Let's see.
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Same here, still wearing & hoping they'll see me out
Same here, still wearing & hoping they'll see me out
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Oh no I just bought the black ones yesterday
I bought whatever were the most expensive in go outdoors last year, merino wool ones. Load of crap, had ti wear them inside out because the seams and labels were so uncomfortable. I think the biggest issue for me is they don't fit fantastically well, mens sizing is really bad. Large means tall OR fat. Unless you're tall and Fat, they aren't going to fit.
Oh no I just bought the black ones yesterday
I bought whatever were the most expensive in go outdoors last year, merino wool ones. Load of crap, had ti wear them inside out because the seams and labels were so uncomfortable. I think the biggest issue for me is they don't fit fantastically well, mens sizing is really bad. Large means tall OR fat. Unless you're tall and Fat, they aren't going to fit.
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You may think they are OK if you didn't have the white ones to compare them to, be positive
You may think they are OK if you didn't have the white ones to compare them to, be positive
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Second that, by far the best I've used. They'll all keep you warm but it's just how nice they are whilst doing it.
Second that, by far the best I've used. They'll all keep you warm but it's just how nice they are whilst doing it.
I've never found ultra warm thermals much use for fishing in this country to be honest. They are too hot for moving around and you sweat them damp. Then you have to sit around in damp sweaty thermals or get changed. I've found it better to have light thermals under layers that you can add or remove depending on how hot or cold you are. I just use the cheap Uniqlo stuff.
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I use smartwool / icebreaker merino for skiing and you are going through the whole range of temps from sweating due to physical exertion one minute to static and freezing cold / wind (on a chairlift) the next . . . they work brilliantly at pushing the moisture out and are designed to keep you warm; you do need to wear breathable layers over the top for them to work - if the moistures got nowhere to go (by wearing a dirty / muddy top layer) you will get cold . . .
I use smartwool / icebreaker merino for skiing and you are going through the whole range of temps from sweating due to physical exertion one minute to static and freezing cold / wind (on a chairlift) the next . . . they work brilliantly at pushing the moisture out and are designed to keep you warm; you do need to wear breathable layers over the top for them to work - if the moistures got nowhere to go (by wearing a dirty / muddy top layer) you will get cold . . .
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If you have already got some decent gear for skiing then it makes sense to use it. I guess my point was you really do not need to be spending hundreds on Nordic thermals just for fishing in the UK.
Same with expensive Goretex coats and boots. No good when they get dirty, and in the winter my fishing gear does get muddy and dirty.
If you have already got some decent gear for skiing then it makes sense to use it. I guess my point was you really do not need to be spending hundreds on Nordic thermals just for fishing in the UK.
Same with expensive Goretex coats and boots. No good when they get dirty, and in the winter my fishing gear does get muddy and dirty.
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Breathable layers, no problems
Breathable layers, no problems
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Layers that are of suitable warmth levels, and easy to put on and take off, is definitely the way to go. Sweating your cods off when setting up or spodding, and then sitting down in damp gear is a recipe for a chill. Finding the best combination can however be difficult.
Layers that are of suitable warmth levels, and easy to put on and take off, is definitely the way to go. Sweating your cods off when setting up or spodding, and then sitting down in damp gear is a recipe for a chill. Finding the best combination can however be difficult.
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