Just seen Terry Hearn as left Dynamite baits
Any news where Terry and what company Terry will be at next his statement on inst says he's looking forward to fishing with his old buddies something his really missed in recent years
Any news where Terry and what company Terry will be at next his statement on inst says he's looking forward to fishing with his old buddies something his really missed in recent years
In reply to Post #1
Let the speculation begin 😁
Let the speculation begin 😁
In reply to Post #1
Gone to Sticky
Gone to Sticky
In reply to Post #3
Only uses casters anyway
Only uses casters anyway
And chewed tigers nom nom nom
In reply to Post #1
Good luck to him. He will catch on any half decent bait.
Most exciting will be the new venues and contacts I'll have at my disposal, something I've started to struggle with in recent times.
Is Terry hearn running out of venues... never
Good luck to him. He will catch on any half decent bait.
Most exciting will be the new venues and contacts I'll have at my disposal, something I've started to struggle with in recent times.
Is Terry hearn running out of venues... never
In reply to Post #1
Not really surpising if you look at what they "developed" as bait in last few years.
Not really surpising if you look at what they "developed" as bait in last few years.
In reply to Post #1
Outlaw Pro.
Outlaw Pro.
In reply to Post #3
He's definitely gone to sticky baits.
Good luck to him.
He's definitely gone to sticky baits.
Good luck to him.
In reply to Post #9
Dynamite have gone very quiet on the carp scene lately.
Dynamite have gone very quiet on the carp scene lately.
In reply to Post #1
What's his inst account name?
What's his inst account name?
In reply to Post #11
This was Dynamite Baits Instagram page.
This was Dynamite Baits Instagram page.
In reply to Post #8
hahahaha outlaw pro
hahahaha outlaw pro
Sticky just posted that he's joined them
In reply to Post #15
You watch, the next bait Sticky bring out will be the bestest bestest bait ever according to everyone that uses it....because "everyone" will be using it.
You watch, the next bait Sticky bring out will be the bestest bestest bait ever according to everyone that uses it....because "everyone" will be using it.
In reply to Post #15
ka-ching £££££££
The only company big enough to supply him that amount of bait, and sponsorship, etc, that he hasn't already been associatted with previously.
Also let him get on with what he does best.
Its a huge result for sticky. Be interesting now.
ka-ching £££££££
The only company big enough to supply him that amount of bait, and sponsorship, etc, that he hasn't already been associatted with previously.
Also let him get on with what he does best.
Its a huge result for sticky. Be interesting now.
In reply to Post #16
Hot Sticky Source.
Hot Sticky Source.
In reply to Post #17
I think after 20 years he's allowed to have a change of scenery so to speak
Makes you wonder if he will also now use thinking anglers stuff as they do seem to be entwined.
I think after 20 years he's allowed to have a change of scenery so to speak
Makes you wonder if he will also now use thinking anglers stuff as they do seem to be entwined.
I'd move jobs too if I had to chat to Rob Hughes at the Christmas party..
In reply to Post #19
Yes, Exactly, of course you can change jobs. Only time will tell regarding the TA stuff, etc.
I like the ESP brand, think it is well made, and time tested and proven.
Tel is only going to catch even more special ones now
Yes, Exactly, of course you can change jobs. Only time will tell regarding the TA stuff, etc.
I like the ESP brand, think it is well made, and time tested and proven.
Tel is only going to catch even more special ones now
In reply to Post #1
Sticky baits 👌
Sticky baits 👌
In reply to Post #21
He was running out of tickets not bait.
He was running out of tickets not bait.
In reply to Post #23
I see the thinking Anglers link too...
ESP again another company that seems stale in the carp market whereas TA are developing.
I see the thinking Anglers link too...
ESP again another company that seems stale in the carp market whereas TA are developing.
In reply to Post #23
Probably, can't be much he hasn't caught what he wants to
Probably, can't be much he hasn't caught what he wants to
In reply to Post #24
ESP are not stale,they have released quite a few good things in last few years.They make a few things in their own factory in the UK too,they perhaps don't do as much marketing as some other but its very good gear
ESP are not stale,they have released quite a few good things in last few years.They make a few things in their own factory in the UK too,they perhaps don't do as much marketing as some other but its very good gear
In reply to Post #26
It's hardly a front news page story...
its fishing, not premiership football
It's hardly a front news page story...
its fishing, not premiership football
In reply to Post #27
It would be a better story than most of the **** that is in the tabloids
It would be a better story than most of the **** that is in the tabloids
In reply to Post #27
Agreed. I couldn't two hoots who sponsors who, they can changed as much as they want, it won't make the slightest difference to me.
Agreed. I couldn't two hoots who sponsors who, they can changed as much as they want, it won't make the slightest difference to me.
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E.S.P don't need to market anything. The quality of their gear has been enough to market itself the last 25 years.
Loosely linked, but any company that asks for complete strangers to "field test" stuff that's already on the market is one to be swerved. It just smells of "I've bought 10000 swivels and need someone to advertise it on the 'gram". Hence why you get total strangers adding you as a "friend" then delete it after two days because the request has been rightly ignored.
Hearn has managed to somehow be a complete anomaly for the past 30 years, and I think he'll still be able to be the best marketing feature for a company despite doing almost next to nothing for both print and visual media in comparison to those who earn a living clubbing seals in overstocked puddles.
He's the 1% within the 5% of those who still remember proper carp fishing before someone stuck a camera into Horseshoe in 2005 and the new carp angling mantras were written.
E.S.P don't need to market anything. The quality of their gear has been enough to market itself the last 25 years.
Loosely linked, but any company that asks for complete strangers to "field test" stuff that's already on the market is one to be swerved. It just smells of "I've bought 10000 swivels and need someone to advertise it on the 'gram". Hence why you get total strangers adding you as a "friend" then delete it after two days because the request has been rightly ignored.
Hearn has managed to somehow be a complete anomaly for the past 30 years, and I think he'll still be able to be the best marketing feature for a company despite doing almost next to nothing for both print and visual media in comparison to those who earn a living clubbing seals in overstocked puddles.
He's the 1% within the 5% of those who still remember proper carp fishing before someone stuck a camera into Horseshoe in 2005 and the new carp angling mantras were written.
In reply to Post #30
And probably most of us are about the same age lol
And probably most of us are about the same age lol
In reply to Post #30
I find it quite refreshing that they don't have all the social media ******** that comes with the other brands, they let their history and products speak for them.
I find it quite refreshing that they don't have all the social media ******** that comes with the other brands, they let their history and products speak for them.
Terry Hearn to me is the one angler I would trust genuinely to move companies for a genuine reason, not just because he gets the most money or best deal.
I personally think Dynamite had gone a bit flat with baits, doing pretty much the same thing for years, and not able to compete with the likes of Mainline, Sticky, ABS, even Baitworks.
As for ESP and Drennan, they produce very few bad products, and have a very effective sales team, with good tackle reps.
I personally think Dynamite had gone a bit flat with baits, doing pretty much the same thing for years, and not able to compete with the likes of Mainline, Sticky, ABS, even Baitworks.
As for ESP and Drennan, they produce very few bad products, and have a very effective sales team, with good tackle reps.
In reply to Post #33
Let's not be naive, he needs to make a living and the move is more than likely for the money, but nothing wrong with that, it's his job.
Any good angler could go to any decent bait firm and catch as many fish as he/she did before. If you read or listen to any of the more honest angling media the story is the same. Put in the work/time, learn the water, put any decent bait in the right place and be consistent and they catch them. Can't think of many times when any angler genuinely says they had it all right and nothing happened, then they used a different boilie and it all changed.
I've fished a lake at the same time as TH. Lovely bloke. I believe he used white pops up topped with a tiger. I'm guessing the pop up let the tiger sit on the silt, the tiger probably did the work. He just moved around and knew the fish better than anyone else. So he spanked us
Let's not be naive, he needs to make a living and the move is more than likely for the money, but nothing wrong with that, it's his job.
Any good angler could go to any decent bait firm and catch as many fish as he/she did before. If you read or listen to any of the more honest angling media the story is the same. Put in the work/time, learn the water, put any decent bait in the right place and be consistent and they catch them. Can't think of many times when any angler genuinely says they had it all right and nothing happened, then they used a different boilie and it all changed.
I've fished a lake at the same time as TH. Lovely bloke. I believe he used white pops up topped with a tiger. I'm guessing the pop up let the tiger sit on the silt, the tiger probably did the work. He just moved around and knew the fish better than anyone else. So he spanked us
In reply to Post #30
E.S.P don't need to market anything. The quality of their gear has been enough to market itself the last 25 years.
Quality gear, AKA Drennen
E.S.P don't need to market anything. The quality of their gear has been enough to market itself the last 25 years.
Quality gear, AKA Drennen
In reply to Post #35
Your wrong- every company needs to stay relevant in the ever changing market.
Your wrong- every company needs to stay relevant in the ever changing market.
In reply to Post #36
They are clearly doing something right as they're still trading.They make quality gear at reasonable prices and when they release a product video its in the shops within a week or two not months like Fox and some other companies
They are clearly doing something right as they're still trading.They make quality gear at reasonable prices and when they release a product video its in the shops within a week or two not months like Fox and some other companies
In reply to Post #37
They also make some of the best videos too.
They do enough marketing without going overboard.
Haven't nash just released a video using a drone to spot a specific carp to target whilst surface fishing? You'd never see ESP do anything like that, and imo that'll get them more sales than Nash get from the video!
They also make some of the best videos too.
They do enough marketing without going overboard.
Haven't nash just released a video using a drone to spot a specific carp to target whilst surface fishing? You'd never see ESP do anything like that, and imo that'll get them more sales than Nash get from the video!
In reply to Post #38
I dont watch anything that Nash do and their trying to be down with the kids employees.ESP have Alfie Russell who catches some stunning fish and comes across as a really nice person without all the stupid antics and youth language
I dont watch anything that Nash do and their trying to be down with the kids employees.ESP have Alfie Russell who catches some stunning fish and comes across as a really nice person without all the stupid antics and youth language
In reply to Post #36
In that case why do plenty of companies in plenty of industries not feel the need to advertise on TV or social media?
When was the last time you saw an advert for WD40? They don't need to. Despite their being a vast range of alternatives in a broad market, they don't need some Essex Z lister spraying a door lock on the 'gram because they know their **** works, as does their customers. For example, 50 year old Dave from Dartford has been using their stuff for years, he has recommended it for 30 years to all his mates in the trade he has met along the way. No need for insta because A) Dave isn't on Insta as he's not of that generation and B) none of his 50 year old mates in the trade are neither.
Companies aren't daft. They know their younger consumer base is maleable. Hence why you have Essex Z listers selling products to teenagers and women with body dysmorphia.
ESP don't need to do the above, because they can put their costs elsewhere rather than trying to convince 50 year old blokes that their swivel is better than the rest. The 50 year old bloke (minus the ones that wear Camo at Sandown) can see through it. The 15 year old who looks upto Alan Blair? easy pickings.
ESP don't need to "stay relevant" because their market isn't a 15 year old chucking zigs out at Royston Bruv. The market doesn't change, Fads do.
In that case why do plenty of companies in plenty of industries not feel the need to advertise on TV or social media?
When was the last time you saw an advert for WD40? They don't need to. Despite their being a vast range of alternatives in a broad market, they don't need some Essex Z lister spraying a door lock on the 'gram because they know their **** works, as does their customers. For example, 50 year old Dave from Dartford has been using their stuff for years, he has recommended it for 30 years to all his mates in the trade he has met along the way. No need for insta because A) Dave isn't on Insta as he's not of that generation and B) none of his 50 year old mates in the trade are neither.
Companies aren't daft. They know their younger consumer base is maleable. Hence why you have Essex Z listers selling products to teenagers and women with body dysmorphia.
ESP don't need to do the above, because they can put their costs elsewhere rather than trying to convince 50 year old blokes that their swivel is better than the rest. The 50 year old bloke (minus the ones that wear Camo at Sandown) can see through it. The 15 year old who looks upto Alan Blair? easy pickings.
ESP don't need to "stay relevant" because their market isn't a 15 year old chucking zigs out at Royston Bruv. The market doesn't change, Fads do.
In reply to Post #40
@AideyKaye,
You've also started breaking into my point about 'brainwashed' that so upset someone on the Carping Hacks thread.
Many people are conned, brainwashed or whatever term into buying things by advertising, yet many items we don't need.
Just as an example, Flash All Purpose cleaner, according to the name, will clean everything, but I need Flash kitchen cleaner for the kitchen, Flash Bathroom for the bathroom, etc. That's Flash convinced you to 3 items when 1 will do, do I need distance sticks, (sorry dig...)
Anglers are no different, Ali Hamidi and his style convincing the 'yoof' of today that Korda, OMC are the in thing. Alan Blair that Nash is it.
Terry Hearn is an angling icon, from before the big mega media age, anglers who started fishing from the 1990's will have heard of him, his use of ESP tackle, his bait companies and why he moved.
ESP in the tackle shops sell themselves. Good reps, good tackle, with rare failures, and they don't need to be flashy in your face.
@AideyKaye,
You've also started breaking into my point about 'brainwashed' that so upset someone on the Carping Hacks thread.
Many people are conned, brainwashed or whatever term into buying things by advertising, yet many items we don't need.
Just as an example, Flash All Purpose cleaner, according to the name, will clean everything, but I need Flash kitchen cleaner for the kitchen, Flash Bathroom for the bathroom, etc. That's Flash convinced you to 3 items when 1 will do, do I need distance sticks, (sorry dig...)
Anglers are no different, Ali Hamidi and his style convincing the 'yoof' of today that Korda, OMC are the in thing. Alan Blair that Nash is it.
Terry Hearn is an angling icon, from before the big mega media age, anglers who started fishing from the 1990's will have heard of him, his use of ESP tackle, his bait companies and why he moved.
ESP in the tackle shops sell themselves. Good reps, good tackle, with rare failures, and they don't need to be flashy in your face.
In reply to Post #41
Yet here you are flashing it...
Yet here you are flashing it...
In reply to Post #40
All very fair and valid points, but the down to earth-non essex-we are real anglers fishing real waters and don't need oioibruv flashy advertising approach, is also a very valid marketing strategy aimed at a different segment. And good for them of course!
All very fair and valid points, but the down to earth-non essex-we are real anglers fishing real waters and don't need oioibruv flashy advertising approach, is also a very valid marketing strategy aimed at a different segment. And good for them of course!
I have been boycotting ESP ever since I found out they sold "Wrap Sticks" FOR 40 QUID!!!!
They even have three little pegs to mark out each rod! Such a gimmick!
They even have three little pegs to mark out each rod! Such a gimmick!
In reply to Post #44
have been boycotting ESP ever since I found out they sold "Wrap Sticks" FOR 40 QUID!!!!
They even have three little pegs to mark out each rod! Such a gimmick!
I thought you were taking the mickey, then I hit the power of Google...
I must admit ESP are not my first choice of company, not for any tackle reason, but down to a 'consultant' or sponsored angler being quite rude. It most definitely was not Terry Hearn, but was in response to a big debate on certain tackle items. Keith Moors also spoke out and had agreed with what I'd said.
have been boycotting ESP ever since I found out they sold "Wrap Sticks" FOR 40 QUID!!!!
They even have three little pegs to mark out each rod! Such a gimmick!
I thought you were taking the mickey, then I hit the power of Google... I must admit ESP are not my first choice of company, not for any tackle reason, but down to a 'consultant' or sponsored angler being quite rude. It most definitely was not Terry Hearn, but was in response to a big debate on certain tackle items. Keith Moors also spoke out and had agreed with what I'd said.
In reply to Post #40
And Royston is in Hertfordshire not Essex...
And Royston is in Hertfordshire not Essex...
In reply to Post #46
You can't fish Royston unless you're a 15 year old from Hertfordshire?
What a Liberty.
You can't fish Royston unless you're a 15 year old from Hertfordshire?
What a Liberty.
In reply to Post #1
I don't know how he stuck dynamite so long, there bait has been rubbish for years now. Source used to be a phenomenal bait
I don't know how he stuck dynamite so long, there bait has been rubbish for years now. Source used to be a phenomenal bait
I doubt it would happen but I'd like to see him join TA aswell.
Good luck to him.
Good luck to him.
In reply to Post #48
He hardly uses boilies
He hardly uses boilies
In reply to Post #48
But as their top consultant he wouldn't have got the same bait minion would...
But as their top consultant he wouldn't have got the same bait minion would...
In reply to Post #51
He did actually. Used it straight from the bag, sometimes with the odd tweak but usually just as it came.
Nothing wrong with Dynamite kit.
He did actually. Used it straight from the bag, sometimes with the odd tweak but usually just as it came.
Nothing wrong with Dynamite kit.
In reply to Post #52
I did well on the white chocolate a few years ago
I did well on the white chocolate a few years ago
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