See Nutrabaits seem to be trying to revive themselves again. Not sure they will be able to get back to where they were under their original owners?
In reply to Post #1
I agree.
Horse 🐎 bolted, and too much water under the bridge IMHO to climb back where Bill had built it up to, in the UK and most of Europe.
Social media is only good for certain things, but to magic stock out off thin air, post Big Bill leaving/selling up, it cannot do, shame.
I agree.
Horse 🐎 bolted, and too much water under the bridge IMHO to climb back where Bill had built it up to, in the UK and most of Europe.
Social media is only good for certain things, but to magic stock out off thin air, post Big Bill leaving/selling up, it cannot do, shame.
In reply to Post #2
Bill is using rolling baits for his European trips. Nuff said.
Bill is using rolling baits for his European trips. Nuff said.
In reply to Post #1
Once a good always a good base whilst we are using powders bound with eggs. Used quite a lot over the years
Looking in from the outside I don't think they had the marketing campaigns or hype like Mainline etc and probably cost them in the market place, couple this with with an explosion of small companies popping up with cheaper baits and them trying to sell a kilo of Trigga for £12 I reckon that's why they fell out of popularity, could be wrong of course but bait is a cut throat market driven by trends and sheep sadly 🐑
Once a good always a good base whilst we are using powders bound with eggs. Used quite a lot over the years
Looking in from the outside I don't think they had the marketing campaigns or hype like Mainline etc and probably cost them in the market place, couple this with with an explosion of small companies popping up with cheaper baits and them trying to sell a kilo of Trigga for £12 I reckon that's why they fell out of popularity, could be wrong of course but bait is a cut throat market driven by trends and sheep sadly 🐑
In reply to Post #1
If they could get a current BIG name on board tomorrow like “squeaky” or pitchers maker etc or someone like that they would probably be back up there because of the amount of followers they have.
If they could get a current BIG name on board tomorrow like “squeaky” or pitchers maker etc or someone like that they would probably be back up there because of the amount of followers they have.
It's easy to make a good bait these days, all of the info is out there for anyone to use. It's the marketing and ‘faces' that make a company successful. If they can get that bit right then there is no reason they can't come back, although the market is a very different place than it was when they started out.
In reply to Post #5
There's two ways they always seem to try to go, either get one big name on board......or, offer 'sponsorships' to absolutely everyone and their dog.
There's two ways they always seem to try to go, either get one big name on board......or, offer 'sponsorships' to absolutely everyone and their dog.
In reply to Post #4
They sold more bait than Mainline.
It was almost a North/South divide split the country in two, Nutrabaits had the North, Mainline the south, with a little pocket of the other in each territory, and a fuzzy border.
Nutrabaits had massive exports where Mainline had very little other than the Korda boys, Les Quis, and their own lake specials.
Retail prices of Nutrabaits were true, but when another bait company is selling direct to the public with no in-between that meant Nutrabaits (and Mainline) retail prices seemed high.
The annual release of Nutrabaits Bait magazine was guaranteed to get me some massive sales, and the first Nutrabaits shelf lifes, just to test the market I ordered 10 packs of each flavour, expecting them to cover me for 2 weeks. My delivery arrived Friday, I had sold out by Saturday. I actually had to ask if they could do me a special delivery for some more. Admittedly then there were favourites within the range, but the first batch...
Our Mainline sales were probably equals in Suffolk, more freezer bait, but Nutrabaits I knew my base mix sales were far higher, and with numbers of special order 10kilo buckets.
Bill Cottam selling up, to me was the end. Once it was taken over and you could not get stock there was no way back.
They sold more bait than Mainline.
It was almost a North/South divide split the country in two, Nutrabaits had the North, Mainline the south, with a little pocket of the other in each territory, and a fuzzy border.
Nutrabaits had massive exports where Mainline had very little other than the Korda boys, Les Quis, and their own lake specials.
Retail prices of Nutrabaits were true, but when another bait company is selling direct to the public with no in-between that meant Nutrabaits (and Mainline) retail prices seemed high.
The annual release of Nutrabaits Bait magazine was guaranteed to get me some massive sales, and the first Nutrabaits shelf lifes, just to test the market I ordered 10 packs of each flavour, expecting them to cover me for 2 weeks. My delivery arrived Friday, I had sold out by Saturday. I actually had to ask if they could do me a special delivery for some more. Admittedly then there were favourites within the range, but the first batch...
Our Mainline sales were probably equals in Suffolk, more freezer bait, but Nutrabaits I knew my base mix sales were far higher, and with numbers of special order 10kilo buckets.
Bill Cottam selling up, to me was the end. Once it was taken over and you could not get stock there was no way back.
In reply to Post #8
I gave you a ❤️ there mate, brought back a few memories.
I gave you a ❤️ there mate, brought back a few memories.
In reply to Post #3
Bill appears to be promoting RG baits
Bill appears to be promoting RG baits
In reply to Post #8
They ain't selling more than Mainline now are they and have not for quite a while
They ain't selling more than Mainline now are they and have not for quite a while
In reply to Post #10
RG baits are located near to where Nutrabaits used to be, some of the people form there work for them or did was my understanding hence the link
RG baits are located near to where Nutrabaits used to be, some of the people form there work for them or did was my understanding hence the link
In reply to Post #11
Totally agree.
Mainline still have a firm company base, whereas Nutrabaits do not.
Nutrabaits News was in the magazines before Mainlines What's Occurring.
Nutrabaits did actually have some very good anglers on board, Brian Skoyles, our own Ken T and others, but they were 'hampered' in a way by writing articles without blatant plugs, as soon as Dave Lane, Ian Chilcott and the Horton anglers started writing about Jack the (net) Ripper mentioning Mainline profile increased. Baits being given to sponsored anglers, who could then sell it straight on in the car park at Yateley, at Savay etc
Mainline even took over in the south from Premier baits, which had ruled Darenth and Harefield. Regular captures of The Amphibian at well over 40lb from Grange lake on the Grange bait kept Mainline up there.
Totally agree.
Mainline still have a firm company base, whereas Nutrabaits do not.
Nutrabaits News was in the magazines before Mainlines What's Occurring.
Nutrabaits did actually have some very good anglers on board, Brian Skoyles, our own Ken T and others, but they were 'hampered' in a way by writing articles without blatant plugs, as soon as Dave Lane, Ian Chilcott and the Horton anglers started writing about Jack the (net) Ripper mentioning Mainline profile increased. Baits being given to sponsored anglers, who could then sell it straight on in the car park at Yateley, at Savay etc
Mainline even took over in the south from Premier baits, which had ruled Darenth and Harefield. Regular captures of The Amphibian at well over 40lb from Grange lake on the Grange bait kept Mainline up there.
In reply to Post #13
Some of those anglers actually made things worse claiming and arguing even on here that products were still the same when it was obvious from space that they arent.. Biggest reason for Nutrabaits downfall is changing products while still claiming original etc...
Some of those anglers actually made things worse claiming and arguing even on here that products were still the same when it was obvious from space that they arent.. Biggest reason for Nutrabaits downfall is changing products while still claiming original etc...
In reply to Post #13
You mean The Essex Manor for the Amphibian?
You mean The Essex Manor for the Amphibian?
In reply to Post #13
In Dave lanes ‘flick of a tail book'(which is a fantastic read)he plugged mainline a fair bit,I think it was the sonning he was putting in buckets and buckets of mainline at a time
In Dave lanes ‘flick of a tail book'(which is a fantastic read)he plugged mainline a fair bit,I think it was the sonning he was putting in buckets and buckets of mainline at a time
In reply to Post #15
Thank you, my error.
The Grange was the water the Grange CSL was named after, and The Manor, Dollop City was where Annie, or The Amphibian resided at well over 40lb until she lost weight after being tethered. She did get back up to big weights.
Thank you, my error.
The Grange was the water the Grange CSL was named after, and The Manor, Dollop City was where Annie, or The Amphibian resided at well over 40lb until she lost weight after being tethered. She did get back up to big weights.
Came across this. What do we think, looks interesting?
https://youtu.be/1h7x-Y7VoKg?si=YgAwWyzrpifcTYHR
https://youtu.be/1h7x-Y7VoKg?si=YgAwWyzrpifcTYHR
Used to like using nutrabaits when bill was in charge,so many ingredients to choose from you could make a bait that you could guarantee no one else would be using it.
In reply to Post #19
Must be selling
Must be selling
In reply to Post #20
What do you mean ?
What do you mean ?
In reply to Post #21
People are buying it again
People are buying it again
In reply to Post #22
👍👍
👍👍
In reply to Post #23
According to them people never stoped and everything is still original
According to them people never stoped and everything is still original
In reply to Post #24
I used to like nutrabaits range of products and done ok with them but now I'm settled with my choice of bait company
I used to like nutrabaits range of products and done ok with them but now I'm settled with my choice of bait company
In reply to Post #24
To be fair I know a couple of anglers that never stopped using them and their catch rates never dropped either. Make what you will of that.
To be fair I know a couple of anglers that never stopped using them and their catch rates never dropped either. Make what you will of that.
In reply to Post #18
Just watched the vid, so that's where Jason Callaghan is these days he could catch fish from a rain puddle and from memory was pretty clued up with all things bait, I know he went through the ringer a bit at one time so nice to see him back involved with a bait company that shall we say lost a lot of credibility when Bill sold up, he would in my opinion add some of that back if he's involved with development and rolling.
Just watched the vid, so that's where Jason Callaghan is these days he could catch fish from a rain puddle and from memory was pretty clued up with all things bait, I know he went through the ringer a bit at one time so nice to see him back involved with a bait company that shall we say lost a lot of credibility when Bill sold up, he would in my opinion add some of that back if he's involved with development and rolling.
Hasn't Lee Walton gone there too?
In reply to Post #27
I agree
I believe he was behind the original stickybaits with the canned bloodworm stuff etc. knows a bit about bait, never met him but I know people who have, very good angler
I agree
I believe he was behind the original stickybaits with the canned bloodworm stuff etc. knows a bit about bait, never met him but I know people who have, very good angler
In reply to Post #28
I seem to remember that Lee Walton left Nutrabaits, to join Sticky baits around 2014, I stand to be corrected on that.
But anyone who worked alongside Big Bill for any considerable amount of time will know a fair bit about bait.
I seem to remember that Lee Walton left Nutrabaits, to join Sticky baits around 2014, I stand to be corrected on that.
But anyone who worked alongside Big Bill for any considerable amount of time will know a fair bit about bait.
In reply to Post #30
He was working in Erics angling around that time wasnt he ?
He was working in Erics angling around that time wasnt he ?
Just to let you know Nutrabaits are bringing back a Ltd edition winter bait in 2 weeks taken from Facebook ...Cold Water Classic 👀👀
Over the last 3 years we have produced a classic “limited edition” cold water classic and this year is no different. The last 2 winters it's been Trigga Ice with the addition of GLM and Tecni Spice flavour. Before this was a beautiful Ener-Vite Gold recipe.
This year we've had the old black books out and chosen to go with an old school classic recipe. Big favourite of Lee Walton and Jason Callaghan back in the 90's and totally different to anything currently being produced in the bait industry.
The aroma in our rolling department has been beautiful this week.
We'll leave it to you to try and guess this classic bait before being announced in the next 2 weeks, we'll let you know when it's going to be available very soon 😁
Over the last 3 years we have produced a classic “limited edition” cold water classic and this year is no different. The last 2 winters it's been Trigga Ice with the addition of GLM and Tecni Spice flavour. Before this was a beautiful Ener-Vite Gold recipe.
This year we've had the old black books out and chosen to go with an old school classic recipe. Big favourite of Lee Walton and Jason Callaghan back in the 90's and totally different to anything currently being produced in the bait industry.
The aroma in our rolling department has been beautiful this week.
We'll leave it to you to try and guess this classic bait before being announced in the next 2 weeks, we'll let you know when it's going to be available very soon 😁
In reply to Post #29
In my shed I have a black bucket with a sticky label and on it it says
Jason callahans sticky baits bloodworm
Or words to that effect
I'll go and have a look tomorrow lol
In my shed I have a black bucket with a sticky label and on it it says
Jason callahans sticky baits bloodworm
Or words to that effect
I'll go and have a look tomorrow lol
In reply to Post #32
enervite?
enervite?
In reply to Post #34
not sure what they both used there is a photo of the bait on Facebook
not sure what they both used there is a photo of the bait on Facebook
In reply to Post #33
JC was original Sticky, " The Hauling Smurf" was his , then, moniker.
JC was original Sticky, " The Hauling Smurf" was his , then, moniker.
I reckon it's going to be a re-release of bunspice looking at the picture on their FB page.
In reply to Post #32
I wonder if it will be the 4 seasons mix. Called the 4 seasons mix as it took 4 seasons to get a bite on it according to Dave Moore lol
I wonder if it will be the 4 seasons mix. Called the 4 seasons mix as it took 4 seasons to get a bite on it according to Dave Moore lol
In reply to Post #38
In reply to Post #37
SBS bun spice
was my all time favourite flavour.
Had a few pb's on that
des taylor offered to sell me a litre of it for £50
Wish I'd have bought it.
Never tried the NB version but I could be tempted.
SBS bun spice
was my all time favourite flavour.
Had a few pb's on that
des taylor offered to sell me a litre of it for £50
Wish I'd have bought it.
Never tried the NB version but I could be tempted.
Again from Facebook
***WINTER SPECIAL***
The one many of you have been waiting has arrived, this classic cold water favourite is now available online.
The long talked about “Four Season Base Mix” is one of the discontinued base mixes we get repeatedly asked for especially with the onset of winter.
This being a perfect cold water mix that was a big favourite of many of our team and customers alike. So why is this base mix so effective in cold water ?
Being a blend of premium milk proteins (casein's and Nutralac), sluis CLO, perfect blend of spices including Robin Red and our in-house closely guarded secret spice blend, liver powder, betaine, seaweed along with vitamins and minerals giving a highly nutritious and easily digestible finished bait.
Liquid Package; we've given the bait an up to date twist, with a blend of a special liquid yeast and corn steep liquor along with our nature identical Banana and Cornish Cream flavours, Black Pepper essential oil and natural sweetner that gives the finished bait a beautiful aroma and taste carp find hard to resist.
Being a huge mouthful of a name, we've taken the decision to cut it down and give it an easy to remember name of “4S+”
We're already looking forward to seeing the big carp that's going to be caught on this classic over the coming months. Remember it's this years winter special only.
What's in the range:
1kg & 5kg - 15mm Shelf life boilies
15mm match the hatch pop ups
15mm match the hatch wafters
500ml liquid Activator
***WINTER SPECIAL***
The one many of you have been waiting has arrived, this classic cold water favourite is now available online.
The long talked about “Four Season Base Mix” is one of the discontinued base mixes we get repeatedly asked for especially with the onset of winter.
This being a perfect cold water mix that was a big favourite of many of our team and customers alike. So why is this base mix so effective in cold water ?
Being a blend of premium milk proteins (casein's and Nutralac), sluis CLO, perfect blend of spices including Robin Red and our in-house closely guarded secret spice blend, liver powder, betaine, seaweed along with vitamins and minerals giving a highly nutritious and easily digestible finished bait.
Liquid Package; we've given the bait an up to date twist, with a blend of a special liquid yeast and corn steep liquor along with our nature identical Banana and Cornish Cream flavours, Black Pepper essential oil and natural sweetner that gives the finished bait a beautiful aroma and taste carp find hard to resist.
Being a huge mouthful of a name, we've taken the decision to cut it down and give it an easy to remember name of “4S+”
We're already looking forward to seeing the big carp that's going to be caught on this classic over the coming months. Remember it's this years winter special only.
What's in the range:
1kg & 5kg - 15mm Shelf life boilies
15mm match the hatch pop ups
15mm match the hatch wafters
500ml liquid Activator
In reply to Post #41
Hope it's been reformulated as even some of their field testers reckoned it was the worst bait they came up with!
Or just trading off “old skool” names?
Hope it's been reformulated as even some of their field testers reckoned it was the worst bait they came up with!
Or just trading off “old skool” names?
In reply to Post #42
I know an old school angler who did very well on this bait back in the day. Never used it myself, just thought it worth saying!
I know an old school angler who did very well on this bait back in the day. Never used it myself, just thought it worth saying!
In reply to Post #43
Didn't Lee Walton design this bait originally?
Didn't Lee Walton design this bait originally?
In reply to Post #43
Enervate / Enervite Gold would probably been a better base mix to do it on?
Enervate / Enervite Gold would probably been a better base mix to do it on?
In reply to Post #44
I wouldn't swear on it but from memory yes
I wouldn't swear on it but from memory yes
In reply to Post #32
Is anyone on here actually using nutrabaits gear anymore? I take the original recipe marketing bull with a pinch of salt but if their new stuff actually any good?
Is anyone on here actually using nutrabaits gear anymore? I take the original recipe marketing bull with a pinch of salt but if their new stuff actually any good?
In reply to Post #47
In the past I used a lot of theirs stuff and caught well on it.
Nowadays I only use spice cajouser, I come back last year to a really successful recipe I made in the past, and caught really well with it.
Spice cajouser smells to me like the early 2000 stuff I used, or, at least, it seems to me.
Another great product they had was the pop up mix, the one that got cooked while rolling in a frying pan, caught some really nice carp on it. By the way, if anyone got the original recipe (maybe ken should be the one, I suppose? but he don't seem to hanging around on here lately, hope he's good, anyway), it will be really appreciated if he could share it with me.
In the past I used a lot of theirs stuff and caught well on it.
Nowadays I only use spice cajouser, I come back last year to a really successful recipe I made in the past, and caught really well with it.
Spice cajouser smells to me like the early 2000 stuff I used, or, at least, it seems to me.
Another great product they had was the pop up mix, the one that got cooked while rolling in a frying pan, caught some really nice carp on it. By the way, if anyone got the original recipe (maybe ken should be the one, I suppose? but he don't seem to hanging around on here lately, hope he's good, anyway), it will be really appreciated if he could share it with me.
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