Anyone got one of the cheaper carbon throwing sticks and can verify if they are any good? Looking for one under £60 to £70, Gardner Pro Pela or Scorpion, or perhaps the JRC or cheaper NGT one.

Not looking at the really expensive ones as don't have that kind of money and surely if the carbon ones are worth getting, then a cheaper variant should suffice.

If I was in the market for a carbon stick I'd hunt out a Diawa stick, I have an ACE and it's good to 110 yards the daiwa is Better and around £80 having had a brief look you may get it cheaper

In reply to Post #1
I've got the NGT one and it's fine. Prior to this, had the NGT plastic one and that was fine too.

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I have a cobra stick for 30 years and that is fine for 80 yards pound for pound it's the ace lagging behind the Daiwa stick imho both sticks achieve 110 yards the Diawa is the better stick by far in the right hands hitting 130. It's RRP was £130 now around the £80 Mark well worth considering

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The tackle box cfx one is decent

I've got the daiwa infinity and fox r20, for speed of putting bait out the fox is better due to the loading port but the infinity will go further. I'm thinking about getting the r25 for larger 24mm baits but have been told I won't get further with it due to the increased surface area of the bait.

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what he said, must have had mine years now , works exactly as it did on day one. No need to spend any more.

Had most sticks around a dozen best ever was Diawa infinity went the furthest followed by a Solar sharpshooter very very close second but sold them all

and only kept the HARRISON CARBON THROWING STICK its a straight stick not sure if they are still made but it was only about £40 (( unlike my Diawa infinity that with the optional carry case cost me £152 !))
I found the harrison the most accurate stick I have ever used not a long range stick by any means but lethally accurate up to around 85- 100 yards max (see the video link below)
the other stick I hear people rave on about is the Diem /NGT stick never seen one but seen lots of glowing reports
the one that people slag off the most is the ridge monkey probably best to swerve that one

VIDEO LINKY POO

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I have two, cost wise one from each end of the market, a ngt one and a diawa, the diawa I would say is definitely better but not by much. The ngt is the same model as the Gardner only £40 cheaper.

If absolute maximum range is important I'd go for the diawa every time, but for most situations the ngt is fantastic.

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I'm crap with a throwing stick and even crappier with my SharpShooter, I know there's a knack but I just can't get on with it.

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Limp wristed ****er .

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I have the harrison and it is very good indeed

Would love to buy a Harrison Stick but not available anymore.

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Collectors item now,must be worth at least £100

I've got a cheapo Diem one I picked up for next to nothing at Sports Direct. Had it for years and it's been fine. Before that I was using the plastic Nash Cobra and Gardner Skorpion and although I miss the loading slot of the Cobra, the Diem is head and shoulders above both

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So the Daiwa has some fans on here so far and at the cheaper end the NGT one is recommended. Does anyone have the Pro Peks or the JRC one that can provide some feedback please.

Wish I could get the Harrison one but looks like the chances of that happening is zilch. 😂

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The Harrison ones come up fairly frequently on eBay.

On every water I fish a throwing stick is a ball busting waste of time these days with the poxy gulls.

Bidding starts at £100

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Edit.

Actually no it isn't...

I have a custom one from the tackle box If I remember correctly lol I say custom but the only difference is it has my name on it and coloured whippings

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I've got a couple of Taska carbon ones really like them

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There's a brand new Daiwa one on ebay for £75 buy it now
I've had a few carbon sticks
The Ridgemonkey one is terrible, heavy and noisy
Diem one is a great stick at a reasonable price, I believe its the same as the prologic and other brands
I now use the Daiwa one, it's as light as a feather and I can hit a fair distance, I really rate it, my only gripe is the bung tends to fall off every now and then
I also have a short Taska one which gets used on smaller waters

I do like the look of the Orient sticks although they are a bit more expensive

20mm plastic conduit I used for years until I got a Harrison carbon stick

Tackle box have their own carbon one for sub £40
https://www.tacklebox.co.uk/baiting-up/tb-cf-x-carbon-swift-stick.html

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The orient rods ones are very,when I looked they didn't do one for 15/16mm baits

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They do look nice don't they....
Yeah I think the smallest size was 18-20mm, I wonder if they would do a smaller size as a custom order

I've got the Fox carbon stick and I like it. The loading port works well and it's very light.
The only downside is the noise it makes. No seagulls where I am so not a problem in that respect, but the bloke 300 m away on the other side of the lake knows as soon as I start baiting up, especially when using air dried or still frozen boilies. It's a horrible noise too. The metallic 'thriiiing' of my antique aluminium cobra makes me smile. The Fox males me wince.

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Could ask them but be sat down when give you the price

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The Orient sticks are the nuts. The only stick I've ever come across that can match the ACA/Warwick stick. Absolutely brilliant.

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How much was yours,what spec did you go for mate

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23 diameter X 1100 length. It's the smallest dia. they do with the same length as the ACA, the curve is v slightly more aggressive though. It was available off the shelf, 100 quid delivered.
I had almost given up trying to find an alternative when I broke my ACA, then someone on here put me onto the Orient one.
To spend 70 on something else when this can be had for 100 is madness imho

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Do you put out smaller baits with it and is it ok if you do

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It's fine with 18s, I had to modify the plug on the bottom of the handle to use 15s. Easy job though. They absolutely fly mate.

In reply to Post #33
I might just get one

In reply to Post #28
I enquired yesterday about the red stick they do but they aren't available for a couple of months
I've also asked about different sizes but they haven't replied yet

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Cheers for that,I want the red handled one too

In reply to Post #36
I'll let you know once I get a reply

In reply to Post #37
Thanks

Has anyone got a link for these Orient Sticks please.

In reply to Post #39
Google Orient Rods they are on there

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Thanks mate. Of the two, am I better off looking at the Bombus or the Anaconda S? I take it the red or black handle is just cosmetic choice. Also, I take it the longer the stick, the further the distance.

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I'm looking at the bombus version,i will probably go for the same spec as Yonny mentions in his post.

In reply to Post #38
They have replied....
The smallest size they do is the 23mm, They have the standard black carbon in stock with both coloured handles, these are £115 posted
The red and blue carbon sticks will be available in a couple of months

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Oh they are doing a full coloured stick,I might wait and have a look at them.Thanks for your help,really appreciate it 👍

In reply to Post #44
No worries 👍
Yeah full blue and red carbon, I had a scroll on their Fb page and there's a video showing them
They do look nice

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Will take a look oh yes one of them will be getting ordered in the red.That will match my solar carbon colours bobbins nicely and the red whippings on my rods

In reply to Post #42
It's the Bombus I got 👍👍

In reply to Post #47
Going be interesting see the price of the new coloured carbon ones and what do you have to do so they will take 15mm baits

In reply to Post #48
The plug forms a little cup in which 15s can get jammed (you'll see what I mean you get it) so you just need to glue a little bit of plastic onto the cup to prevent it

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A bit off topic but I read on the forum once that you get more distance if you put foam in the bottom few inches of the stick, just to the level of the top of your grip, the logic being that the boilie is being forced the wrong way until the stick is vertical, whether this is true I'm not sure, if it is it might help someone get a few more yards.

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Maybe waving a big red stick around will help scare the seagulls too?!

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It's not completely red,it's just flecked into the carbon.My face goes red enough watching the flying rats thieving my bait

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If it was pink and yellow stripes and wolf whistled every chuck i'd give it a go.

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Might not be your little balls flying in the air that get unwanted attention

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Any bird on the bank can do what they want with my little balls.

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It is true, but it only makes the stick perform better and easier to hit long range with less effort but not really farther. I have posted it several times over the years. A stick without a "Bung" is useless as it takes a lot of arm work to make it work, hence aching arms and shoulders. Without a bung, the pivot point is below the top of the hand, so to get the bait flying out, you have to hold the stick in a way that the bait starts rolling up the stick and above the hand. To do that, the stick becomes an extension of your arm and it has to have a lot of shoulder movement to make the stick work, hence aching shoulders. If you was to imagine your holding your stick with bait in or just grab a pen etc, then rotate your hand, you would see the bottom of the stick moves backwards, any bait in that section of the stick will not come out, unless as mentioned, you tip the stick back and then it all becomes guesswork as to when to fire the bait forwards, very inaccurate, but a point close to the top of your hand pivots forwards and that is where your bait should be.

Fit a bung in the handle, and then the only movement you need is from the elbow mainly and for long distance, just raise the arm to move the stick through a bigger arc and faster.

Fitting a bung can be fine tuned, the bung slightly high will have the bait fly high and even vertical if its too far up the stick. Too low down the stick and the bait will fly low and hit the water in front of you in the worst instance.

So what you have to do is move the bung up or down the stick slightly and keep testing it to fine tune it. But, do not alter the arm action to chase what you are trying to achieve., all it is, is a 2 oclock to 10 o clock action as if your fly fishing. If the bait flies high, just push the bung down the stick about 1/4 of an inch or vice versa if it is firing low. The sweet spot is about level with the top of your hand hold.

Once you have it right, with just a flick, the bait will fly out horizontal out of the stick and becomes very accurate. If you want, you can aim high or low and drop your bait almost on top of the last bait you fired out.

Anyone I see struggling with a stick to use it, I go round and show them my collection of throwing sticks fitted with a bung. At first they do wild slashes with it which is what you have to do with a stick with no bung in to try and make it work, but then when I show them, its just a fly fishing action, they get it in no time and are impressed at how easy it is.

Also, throwing sticks are like golf clubs, a short one about 18" for up to 60 yards and a longer one for beyond that.

But, what I do not understand is why was the idea of having throwing sticks with bungs in forgotten about. The original designs had them in, my first one bought in the 80's had one in and I still use it today, and even Rod Hutchinson's design in the "Carp Strikes Back", page 77, had a bung in, 6" from the bottom.

Basically, all manufacturers are doing is selling you a piece of plastic or carbon tubing which you can source yourself and make your own sticks far cheaper than they sell you and with a bung fitted, outperform them.

Decided on the Fox Carbon Stick R20 today. Main reason was the price. For £55 i was mad not to. Absolute bargain.

In reply to Post #59
Go gentle with it,they snap by the loading port

In reply to Post #59
Why is it a bargain compared to the Diem?

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Ah, cheers mate, didn't know that. In that case, I'll have a look when it arrives and probably take it back. Looks like I may still be on the look out for a new stick. 🤣

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When the retail price is £80 and its selling for £55, I would think most people would consider it a bargain. Why compare it to something that's not available anymore?

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You don't know if it's any good though?

The diem stick is still available for £35, it just has an NGT sticker on it now.

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I didn't know the NGT is a rebadged Diem so sorry mate.

Is there really going to be that much difference between the NGT one and say yhe Daiwa Infinity or Orient ones then?

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I honestly don't know. I've had the diem one for a while and it's fine. Noisy, but does the job. I had the Korda plastic one before that and the carbon is much better. I'm tempted by one of the orient ones after Yonny pointed them out, but I very rarely use a stick these days due to the poxy seagulls.

In reply to Post #65
The NGT, the diem and the Gardner propela look like the same product to my eyes. I have an NGT one and it's fine, just slightly heavier than the Diawa.

In reply to Post #62
They might of sorted the issue out now,when you get it go give a try.If when you give it some force you can feel any flex by the port then I would be concerned

In reply to Post #68
I've got infinity and fox r20, had both since they came out and use the fox most and never had an issue.

In reply to Post #69
With your limp wrists you might not be putting enough into it

In reply to Post #69
And me😎

In reply to Post #69
Have you ever heard heard of them snapping at the loading port? On the R20, what sort of distances would be expected.

In reply to Post #71
Is that something you have not actually managed to break

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😂😂😂 I've done well with sticks. Had an Infinity since they first came out and both sizes of Fox and not killed any touch wood. I did use to destroy the Korda ones for fun though😂😂
Got the Infinity when I was on Welly so a lot of boilie went through that, no flex whatsoever and bloody light, however very, very noisy😂😂

In reply to Post #74
So do I need to be concerned about the Fox R2 then?

Never used a carbon stick before. Had a Korda Easy stick before.

In reply to Post #75
If he has not managed break his Fox sticks,you will be fine 👍

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It's not my fault if you kill it
I put a lot of power through a stick with a very quick wrist action. The Korda plastic I could actually feel flex and have called it in the past before they used to break.
I have put that power through the Fox but you can do it more smoothly due to its longer length. I have the 26mm as well but I haven't used this yet.
The original Daiwa Infinity is an absolute beast and just does not flex at all. It is ridiculously noisy but when you are used to it you can pretty much get the bait (if it's dense enough) to do whatever you want😎
The only stick I've used since about 2013 is the 20mm Fox carbon, however I haven't used sticks as much as I used to due to venue changes and the ever present flying rats. Top tip is bait right at last knockings or into dark, you get used to how much force for the distance so you don't need to see them land😎

Nash Cyber Lite.