It looks like Avid will be bringing out the first heated sleeping bag using heated elements along the bag with 4 settings.
The point of my post is more of a question to the people that I have seen on here explaining how to keep warm in a sleeping bag. Is it possible for this to work better in keeping you warm over wearing layers ect or is a gimmick?
The point of my post is more of a question to the people that I have seen on here explaining how to keep warm in a sleeping bag. Is it possible for this to work better in keeping you warm over wearing layers ect or is a gimmick?
In reply to Post #1
How is it powered? Hopefully not by a gas burner, the forums been down that road before, a few times.
How is it powered? Hopefully not by a gas burner, the forums been down that road before, a few times.
In reply to Post #2
I would imagine by a power-pack
I would imagine by a power-pack
In reply to Post #2
There's a few heated clothes around now
My kids bought me a pair of battery operated heated socks I've seen a gilet body warmer thing
Technology is there but I guess so will the cost be
There's a few heated clothes around now
My kids bought me a pair of battery operated heated socks I've seen a gilet body warmer thing
Technology is there but I guess so will the cost be
In reply to Post #1
Heated jackets/gilets are pretty common now, running off a USB battery pack. Will be the same method used here.
It does work well when your inactive, trouble I have with the coat, even sat still with it on a low setting I sweat a bit, so if you run out of charge you get cold very quickly
Heated jackets/gilets are pretty common now, running off a USB battery pack. Will be the same method used here.
It does work well when your inactive, trouble I have with the coat, even sat still with it on a low setting I sweat a bit, so if you run out of charge you get cold very quickly
In reply to Post #1
I'd be inclined to just use a hot water bottle, if you get too warm just take it out.
A bag that your going to stuff in a compression sack or leave on a bedchair with heating elements is bound to get damaged at some point.
I'd be inclined to just use a hot water bottle, if you get too warm just take it out.
A bag that your going to stuff in a compression sack or leave on a bedchair with heating elements is bound to get damaged at some point.
In reply to Post #5
Your wearing the wrong kit with it. I've got a couple of heated mid layer jackets I use on my motorbike when it's cold and on long trips, both are worn over a merino wool base as if you do swet this wicks moisture away from the body and the heated jacket are also breathable same as the outer gore-tex jacket. Layering is good if the correct materials are worn but like a conventional sleeping bag rely on your body heat to warm the layer or bag which then holds the heat to keep you warm but when relaxed your not generating much body heat and if the weather is very cold the heated option works better as it generating heat, good on the bike as it runs off the battery which is obviously being charge while riding.
Your wearing the wrong kit with it. I've got a couple of heated mid layer jackets I use on my motorbike when it's cold and on long trips, both are worn over a merino wool base as if you do swet this wicks moisture away from the body and the heated jacket are also breathable same as the outer gore-tex jacket. Layering is good if the correct materials are worn but like a conventional sleeping bag rely on your body heat to warm the layer or bag which then holds the heat to keep you warm but when relaxed your not generating much body heat and if the weather is very cold the heated option works better as it generating heat, good on the bike as it runs off the battery which is obviously being charge while riding.
In reply to Post #7
The jacket isn't very breathable, bit of a boil in the bag layer tbh, but it was free with a power tool order
I also find merino itchy as fook so rarely wear it.
I'm also one of those who'll happily wear shorts and a hoody for work when it's near freezing, so even sitting about fishing I don't usually feel the cold unless I get wet/sweaty
The jacket isn't very breathable, bit of a boil in the bag layer tbh, but it was free with a power tool order
I also find merino itchy as fook so rarely wear it.
I'm also one of those who'll happily wear shorts and a hoody for work when it's near freezing, so even sitting about fishing I don't usually feel the cold unless I get wet/sweaty
In reply to Post #2
Looks like from a photo a power pack
Looks like from a photo a power pack
In reply to Post #9
Is it the sleeping bag or the mattress of the bedchair thats heated
Is it the sleeping bag or the mattress of the bedchair thats heated
The write up by Avid says four heat settings
In reply to Post #10
It's says on their Facebook page it's a sleeping bag no mention of bedchair. The elements go length of bag and as other post 4 settings
It's says on their Facebook page it's a sleeping bag no mention of bedchair. The elements go length of bag and as other post 4 settings
In reply to Post #12
I imagine it will be quite power hungry to be useful, so assuming that's the case, then you would need a substantial power supply if you are thinking to use it for a night or two on a high setting.
Obviously every little helps but most power packs discussed on here only contain the equivalent energy that would boil one litre of water. Perhaps that would be enough?
I imagine it will be quite power hungry to be useful, so assuming that's the case, then you would need a substantial power supply if you are thinking to use it for a night or two on a high setting.
Obviously every little helps but most power packs discussed on here only contain the equivalent energy that would boil one litre of water. Perhaps that would be enough?
Never been a need before, and trying to use battery power to replicate wearing the right clothing and decent layering is madness.
How long before a bedchair fire...
How long before a bedchair fire...
Absolutely no need for this at all, if it's cold enough to need this then the water will be frozen anyway
In reply to Post #15
Nonsence. Its very personal, some people feel the cold way differently to other people. Some people say you only need a 3 season bag in winter (usually over weight people funnily).
Not sure i would want a heated sleeping bag, im happy using hot water bottles, but can see it being nessisary, especially in some places in eastern europe, or just some people who want to be warm and comfortable.
Nonsence. Its very personal, some people feel the cold way differently to other people. Some people say you only need a 3 season bag in winter (usually over weight people funnily).
Not sure i would want a heated sleeping bag, im happy using hot water bottles, but can see it being nessisary, especially in some places in eastern europe, or just some people who want to be warm and comfortable.
In reply to Post #16
If you are kitted out in decent cold weather gear as most people are these days then no it's not nonsense at all. Yes people feel the cold in different ways but considering most average lakes will freeze over when the temps dip not too far below zero and most winter bags are more than capable of keeping you warm in those conditions. The reason most feel the cold in their bag is because they are wearing to much clothing in it ,preventing it from doing its job properly.
I've never seen anyone say a 3 season bag is good for all year round either.
If you are kitted out in decent cold weather gear as most people are these days then no it's not nonsense at all. Yes people feel the cold in different ways but considering most average lakes will freeze over when the temps dip not too far below zero and most winter bags are more than capable of keeping you warm in those conditions. The reason most feel the cold in their bag is because they are wearing to much clothing in it ,preventing it from doing its job properly.
I've never seen anyone say a 3 season bag is good for all year round either.
In reply to Post #17
hot water bottle if its baltic is a nice treat. and pretty cost effective lol.
hot water bottle if its baltic is a nice treat. and pretty cost effective lol.
In reply to Post #18
Exactly,it not like we live in Siberia is it!?!
Exactly,it not like we live in Siberia is it!?!
In reply to Post #17
Why do you always have this awful 'i dont need it so no-one does' attitude?
How can you agree that a hot water bottle works, but then say a a heated sleeping bag is unnessisary?
They both do the exact same thing.
Sleeping bags work by capturing your own body heat. When you are already bloody freezing, its really difficult to warm them up. I suffer from the cold really badly, and i counter this by putting several hot water bottles in the bag first maybe 30 mins before i get in, to get it warm first.
If there was just a switch you could press to pre heat the bag for you that would be really convenient.
I wouodnt buy one becaise it probably weighs a tonne, but if fished long winter sessions here or abroad with swims i could park in i would be interested.
Why do you always have this awful 'i dont need it so no-one does' attitude?
How can you agree that a hot water bottle works, but then say a a heated sleeping bag is unnessisary?
They both do the exact same thing.
Sleeping bags work by capturing your own body heat. When you are already bloody freezing, its really difficult to warm them up. I suffer from the cold really badly, and i counter this by putting several hot water bottles in the bag first maybe 30 mins before i get in, to get it warm first.
If there was just a switch you could press to pre heat the bag for you that would be really convenient.
I wouodnt buy one becaise it probably weighs a tonne, but if fished long winter sessions here or abroad with swims i could park in i would be interested.
In reply to Post #20
I don't Sam, I'm just realistic. With all the available kit today, be it clothing, sleeping bags , hot water bottles or anything else then why on earth would anyone need more than that for fishing in the UK ? People can go and survive in temperatures so much colder than ours without a heated bag. If it were really needed then someone would have released something like this a long time ago. It's not like the technology hasn't been available,is it?
I don't Sam, I'm just realistic. With all the available kit today, be it clothing, sleeping bags , hot water bottles or anything else then why on earth would anyone need more than that for fishing in the UK ? People can go and survive in temperatures so much colder than ours without a heated bag. If it were really needed then someone would have released something like this a long time ago. It's not like the technology hasn't been available,is it?
In reply to Post #21
Theres lots of things we dont "need" but why cant we also have nice things that make us warm, comfortable and are convenient?
I dont need an electric blanket at home. I have central heating and loft insulation and sufficient blankets. But i have one because on a cold night its bloody lovely getting into a noce warm bed at just the flick of a switch.
Theres lots of things we dont "need" but why cant we also have nice things that make us warm, comfortable and are convenient?
I dont need an electric blanket at home. I have central heating and loft insulation and sufficient blankets. But i have one because on a cold night its bloody lovely getting into a noce warm bed at just the flick of a switch.
In reply to Post #22
Tackle companies are constantly trying to convince us we "need" allsorts of stuff, this is just another thing. And why anyone would spend whatever this thing costs , and may only last a year before breaking, as opposed to a 5 quid hot water bottle is beyond me.
Tackle companies are constantly trying to convince us we "need" allsorts of stuff, this is just another thing. And why anyone would spend whatever this thing costs , and may only last a year before breaking, as opposed to a 5 quid hot water bottle is beyond me.
In reply to Post #23
I've literally just explained it. Comfort and convenience. No having to boil the kettle at 4am to warm up.
Your "i dont want it so it's stupid" attitude is incredibly childish. If noone wants or needs it, none will sell. If you dont want one. Don't buy one.
I've literally just explained it. Comfort and convenience. No having to boil the kettle at 4am to warm up.
Your "i dont want it so it's stupid" attitude is incredibly childish. If noone wants or needs it, none will sell. If you dont want one. Don't buy one.
In reply to Post #24
Yeah but!!!!
Yeah but!!!!
In reply to Post #24
Lol of course Sam, whatever you say. Oh btw nonsense has a s and not a c
Lol of course Sam, whatever you say. Oh btw nonsense has a s and not a c
In reply to Post #21
Got to say IP, other than proper bags made by proper companies, I'm talking about mountaineering kit, most fishing sleeping bags I've found are utter gash. Bods were banging on about the Gardner one released not so long ago, seriously, what a pile of freezing cold junk that is. I've now got a Trakker 365 which by the looks of it is well made and should be warm for me, maybe others not so much.
I get your point about places freezing.over, thing is, it's not just about places freezing and over, wind chill is a very important factor and where you're fishing doesn't have to be ice for you to be freezing your nuts off. Like you say, good, warm clothing is a must plus layering correctly.
Got to say IP, other than proper bags made by proper companies, I'm talking about mountaineering kit, most fishing sleeping bags I've found are utter gash. Bods were banging on about the Gardner one released not so long ago, seriously, what a pile of freezing cold junk that is. I've now got a Trakker 365 which by the looks of it is well made and should be warm for me, maybe others not so much.
I get your point about places freezing.over, thing is, it's not just about places freezing and over, wind chill is a very important factor and where you're fishing doesn't have to be ice for you to be freezing your nuts off. Like you say, good, warm clothing is a must plus layering correctly.
In reply to Post #27
Agree lots of tackle company gear is rubbish, and usually more expensive for some reason. I've been night fishing since the late 80s so I'm fully aware of things like wind chill too. So yeah decent clothing which we all need anyway as we don't just stay in the bag the whole time is a must. Not really relevant to inside the bag though as wearing that stops the bag working. I find the idea of a heated bag a bit of a joke. What next, solar powered radiators?
With this bag I wonder what the warranty will be? And is the heating element part replaceable? Seems like it could be a very costly way to keep comfy
Agree lots of tackle company gear is rubbish, and usually more expensive for some reason. I've been night fishing since the late 80s so I'm fully aware of things like wind chill too. So yeah decent clothing which we all need anyway as we don't just stay in the bag the whole time is a must. Not really relevant to inside the bag though as wearing that stops the bag working. I find the idea of a heated bag a bit of a joke. What next, solar powered radiators?
With this bag I wonder what the warranty will be? And is the heating element part replaceable? Seems like it could be a very costly way to keep comfy
In reply to Post #28
Idea is not stupid if you wouldnt need 17 powerpacks for 5 days session... Maybe your lakes in uk freeze as soon as it gets bellow zero, in europe deep lakes and rivers will never freeze and fishing in in -5 and sometimes much more during night is common thing from nov-march. Big problem for those that like winter fishing (when lakes are finally less bussy)... there are no clothes that will keep you comfortable on a week session like that 24/7... At that point bivvy heaters come in handy but if somebody did come up with economic way for more pleasant (and safe) nights I can only
... it will all be down to electricity consumption with these.
Idea is not stupid if you wouldnt need 17 powerpacks for 5 days session... Maybe your lakes in uk freeze as soon as it gets bellow zero, in europe deep lakes and rivers will never freeze and fishing in in -5 and sometimes much more during night is common thing from nov-march. Big problem for those that like winter fishing (when lakes are finally less bussy)... there are no clothes that will keep you comfortable on a week session like that 24/7... At that point bivvy heaters come in handy but if somebody did come up with economic way for more pleasant (and safe) nights I can only
... it will all be down to electricity consumption with these.
In reply to Post #29
Makes you wonder how people explore the Antarctic and stay warm doesn't it.....
Of course there are clothes to keep you warm, they just aren't fishing branded
Makes you wonder how people explore the Antarctic and stay warm doesn't it.....
Of course there are clothes to keep you warm, they just aren't fishing branded
In reply to Post #30
No it doesnt really. Cant see any similarities in exploring Antarctic on one hand and having some fun, enjoying fishing by the lake on other.... I dont want to feel like they did. I didnt say warm, I said comfortable. It is not comfortable to be in xx layers 24/7 if it would be, we wouldnt have so sophisticated heating systems at home. Hunters etc use heated jackets, boots etc for some time (I am just buying some) and it is only energy consumption that is stopping these products being more practical in fishing as charging batteries is normally inconvenient on few days sessions.
No it doesnt really. Cant see any similarities in exploring Antarctic on one hand and having some fun, enjoying fishing by the lake on other.... I dont want to feel like they did. I didnt say warm, I said comfortable. It is not comfortable to be in xx layers 24/7 if it would be, we wouldnt have so sophisticated heating systems at home. Hunters etc use heated jackets, boots etc for some time (I am just buying some) and it is only energy consumption that is stopping these products being more practical in fishing as charging batteries is normally inconvenient on few days sessions.
In reply to Post #31
I was being sarcastic..
No similarities?
Both outdoors
Both cold.
There's 2 pretty big ones
I was being sarcastic..
No similarities?
Both outdoors
Both cold.
There's 2 pretty big ones
In reply to Post #31
Well if its green costs a fortune and theres a video on how to get in the thing , I'm on it
Well if its green costs a fortune and theres a video on how to get in the thing , I'm on it
In reply to Post #33
I think it's a fantastic idea and has been a long time coming. Have to laugh at the resistance to any innovation, but that's par for the course.
I think it will be good to use like a heated blanket, turn it on a while before bed and its nice and cosy when you climb in
Same when you get up for a fish in th night (ok, more likely a wee!) and then you can do the same again.
Nothing worse than climbing in a cold sleeping bag and having it zap the warmth out of you for those few mins when it heats up.
Hopefully should open up cold weather angling more for those with joint problems, arthritis etc and should hopefully have a better spread of heat compared to a hot water bottle.
People have heated blankets at home where we have central heating and so on, so can't see the fuss about it needing to be Siberia outside for things like this to be made available.
I think it will be good to use like a heated blanket, turn it on a while before bed and its nice and cosy when you climb in
Same when you get up for a fish in th night (ok, more likely a wee!) and then you can do the same again.
Nothing worse than climbing in a cold sleeping bag and having it zap the warmth out of you for those few mins when it heats up.
Hopefully should open up cold weather angling more for those with joint problems, arthritis etc and should hopefully have a better spread of heat compared to a hot water bottle.
People have heated blankets at home where we have central heating and so on, so can't see the fuss about it needing to be Siberia outside for things like this to be made available.
In reply to Post #35
Good job there wasn't carp forum in dick walkers day
arlesly bomb ...
No need for it
Electronic bite alarms
No need for it
Bed chairs
good god man what are you thinking
Carbon rods
Don't be stupid..
Good job there wasn't carp forum in dick walkers day
arlesly bomb ...
No need for it
Electronic bite alarms
No need for it
Bed chairs
good god man what are you thinking
Carbon rods
Don't be stupid..
In reply to Post #35
You make a good point there, I'm only half a century and touch wood no joint problems touch wood.
If it helps you to get outside in the depths of winter to enjoy your fishing then yes I can see the benefit.
You make a good point there, I'm only half a century and touch wood no joint problems touch wood.
If it helps you to get outside in the depths of winter to enjoy your fishing then yes I can see the benefit.
Comes included with a large sachet of Coco and slippers with a weblink to a bedtime story...
In reply to Post #38
You have to be a hard man in the Royal Marines or the Para's. We're talking about carp fishing. Not everyone is 20 years old , fit as a flea, and hard as flint. If there's a product you don't like, want or need, then don't buy it. Others may think differently. You pays your money you makes your choice
You have to be a hard man in the Royal Marines or the Para's. We're talking about carp fishing. Not everyone is 20 years old , fit as a flea, and hard as flint. If there's a product you don't like, want or need, then don't buy it. Others may think differently. You pays your money you makes your choice
In reply to Post #1
What's the ETA on the slow boat from China ?
Also what's the RRP ?
What's the ETA on the slow boat from China ?
Also what's the RRP ?
In reply to Post #1
Waste of money, to hot
Layers and the duvet perfect
Most of the carp sleeping bags are money for old rope
Waste of money, to hot
Layers and the duvet perfect
Most of the carp sleeping bags are money for old rope
Where's ‘Blanketknob' when you need him? 🤣
In reply to Post #42
Total waste of money whatever next.
Just a good bag and hot water bottle job done.
Brent
Total waste of money whatever next.
Just a good bag and hot water bottle job done.
Brent
In reply to Post #43
This argument makes no sence.
Why would boiling a kettle to fill a hot water bottle be ok, but the having a device that you just press a button and it does the exact same effect not be ok?
This argument makes no sence.
Why would boiling a kettle to fill a hot water bottle be ok, but the having a device that you just press a button and it does the exact same effect not be ok?
In reply to Post #44
Just saw the chart 20k power bank will give you 15h on low and 12 on high setting... if that is true and it actually gives proper heat it is not that bad... I would be more concerned with heating breaking down or cleaning the bag.
Just saw the chart 20k power bank will give you 15h on low and 12 on high setting... if that is true and it actually gives proper heat it is not that bad... I would be more concerned with heating breaking down or cleaning the bag.
In reply to Post #1
Sounds like a decent idea but it depends how well it works and how long it lasts I guess.
I dont think we get cold enough in this country to warrant it for me personally, im fine with layering and ive got a hot water bottle which I hardy ever use.
Im sure it will sell well though, there are a lot of people who really dont like the cold.
Sounds like a decent idea but it depends how well it works and how long it lasts I guess.
I dont think we get cold enough in this country to warrant it for me personally, im fine with layering and ive got a hot water bottle which I hardy ever use.
Im sure it will sell well though, there are a lot of people who really dont like the cold.
i love these type of threads all the macho carp angling "warriors" come out and play and making themself look silly. These are the same people who probably never fish past September and dont think twice at using a powered barrow, baitboat or drone to make life easier ... Oh the irony!
As for the carp product knockers ... carp fishing clothing and sleeping bags have come on leaps and bounds over the years ... there are some excellent products around, you just need to do your research. Buying an "outside" brand has never garuanteed quality either, you just have to read the relevant forums to see they have the same quality issues and "outdoor" tax as we have "carp" tax.
I dont think i would go as far as a heated sleeping bag at the moment, but feet and hand "teabag" warmers are a godsend for me and improve comfort tenfold .... So would totally understand anyone buying one.
As for the carp product knockers ... carp fishing clothing and sleeping bags have come on leaps and bounds over the years ... there are some excellent products around, you just need to do your research. Buying an "outside" brand has never garuanteed quality either, you just have to read the relevant forums to see they have the same quality issues and "outdoor" tax as we have "carp" tax.
I dont think i would go as far as a heated sleeping bag at the moment, but feet and hand "teabag" warmers are a godsend for me and improve comfort tenfold .... So would totally understand anyone buying one.
In reply to Post #47
Similar to the 50inch brolly brigade all through winter.......why bother suffering when you can use something to be more comfortable.......crazy......
Similar to the 50inch brolly brigade all through winter.......why bother suffering when you can use something to be more comfortable.......crazy......
In reply to Post #48
I think its wonderful , cant wait till it gets cold
I think its wonderful , cant wait till it gets cold
In reply to Post #45
Saw an agemore mummy sleeping bag on Amazon and they are saying 3 to 6 hours depending on the setting for that size power bank, perhaps a bigger element or someone is telling porkies?
Saw an agemore mummy sleeping bag on Amazon and they are saying 3 to 6 hours depending on the setting for that size power bank, perhaps a bigger element or someone is telling porkies?
In reply to Post #50
wouldnt be surprised.
wouldnt be surprised.
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