In reply to Post #1
XTD is budget in ultegra flavour so assume these are a budget Technium.
XTD is budget in ultegra flavour so assume these are a budget Technium.
In reply to Post #1
Meh, new fox ones look better. Bloke sounded like he should be on a documentary about birds
Meh, new fox ones look better. Bloke sounded like he should be on a documentary about birds
In reply to Post #2
the D relates to the model series XT XTA XTB XTC XTD
the D relates to the model series XT XTA XTB XTC XTD
Nothing special imo and got that god awful looking knob,why not put the shimano badge on there.Be interesting see the rrp
In reply to Post #5
Hopefully the spare spools won't be Basia 20 prices
Hopefully the spare spools won't be Basia 20 prices
In reply to Post #6
Thats true,you do get a spare spool with them though
Thats true,you do get a spare spool with them though
In reply to Post #7
True!! had a play with one the other day must say I'm tempted
True!! had a play with one the other day must say I'm tempted
In reply to Post #8
Don't be tempted, guy on here told me all basia including the 20 are dog poo and only shimano know how to make a proper carp reel. Expect he will be on this thread soon to confirm this
Oh and another guy was told not to buy basia of any description by a tackle shop and that shop said buy tournies but from a different shop.
Don't be tempted, guy on here told me all basia including the 20 are dog poo and only shimano know how to make a proper carp reel. Expect he will be on this thread soon to confirm this
Oh and another guy was told not to buy basia of any description by a tackle shop and that shop said buy tournies but from a different shop.
In reply to Post #9
Uri Geller bent mine just by walking past them
Uri Geller bent mine just by walking past them
In reply to Post #10
My mate was the cause of mine
My mate was the cause of mine
In reply to Post #10
Yeah uri don't use reels or rods he just thinks them into the net.
Yeah uri don't use reels or rods he just thinks them into the net.
Heff and Goose
In reply to Post #10
b(a)-sia. Origin:Polish. Popularity:28245. Meaning:foreign woman.
b(a)-sia. Origin:Polish. Popularity:28245. Meaning:foreign woman.
In reply to Post #14
Daiwa means Great Harmony so together it's Great Harmony Foreign Woman
Daiwa means Great Harmony so together it's Great Harmony Foreign Woman
Not my cup of tea. Far too garish for me with all the shiny s4it.
What was that cobblers about "nearly changing reality", seriously, sod off with the utter nonsense.
What was that cobblers about "nearly changing reality", seriously, sod off with the utter nonsense.
In reply to Post #2
I bet the price isn't budget, and with all imports being in short supply I doubt there will be many discounts available. Maybe if I win the lottery.
I bet the price isn't budget, and with all imports being in short supply I doubt there will be many discounts available. Maybe if I win the lottery.
In reply to Post #17
As soon as stock hits the shops they will give discount,you just have to ring around to find it
As soon as stock hits the shops they will give discount,you just have to ring around to find it
In reply to Post #18
1775 for three at parkfield. 649 each
1775 for three at parkfield. 649 each
In reply to Post #19
For the new shimano's or daiwa's.Just seen a picture of Terry Edmunds on korda facebook bending a rod in half using the basia 20's.I wonder how many main shafts he has bent
For the new shimano's or daiwa's.Just seen a picture of Terry Edmunds on korda facebook bending a rod in half using the basia 20's.I wonder how many main shafts he has bent
In reply to Post #20
The current mags must have taken a hit in the second hand market surely
The current mags must have taken a hit in the second hand market surely
In reply to Post #21
I dont think the xtc mgs have sold too well
I dont think the xtc mgs have sold too well
In reply to Post #22
Well they have been discontinued now so surely the shops need to really slash the price. Can't be selling 50 quid less than these new ones
Well they have been discontinued now so surely the shops need to really slash the price. Can't be selling 50 quid less than these new ones
In reply to Post #23
Still would not buy them at 300 a reel
Still would not buy them at 300 a reel
In reply to Post #1
What a **** looking reel. Ultegra/XTC hybrid by any chance? I certainly won't be opening my wallet for a set of these, but I might however pick up a set of XTC's if they drop those to £300 a piece
What a **** looking reel. Ultegra/XTC hybrid by any chance? I certainly won't be opening my wallet for a set of these, but I might however pick up a set of XTC's if they drop those to £300 a piece
In reply to Post #22
You sure? They've been like hens teeth for ages now. As soon as they'd landed in shops they were gone. There are a few places with stock now.
I can only suppose that people being locked in their homes for ages and not much stock about due to muh Covid had a lot to do with the aforementioned.
Anyhoo, so when are your new Techs turning up. Must have put an order in by now seeing as you like a loada nice new shiny?
You sure? They've been like hens teeth for ages now. As soon as they'd landed in shops they were gone. There are a few places with stock now.
I can only suppose that people being locked in their homes for ages and not much stock about due to muh Covid had a lot to do with the aforementioned.
Anyhoo, so when are your new Techs turning up. Must have put an order in by now seeing as you like a loada nice new shiny?
In reply to Post #26
I won't be having any,even with what I could buy them at I won't.After owning the xtb mgs it has put me off,I like my Basia's too much.The only thing I'm tempted by is selling my castizms and my basias to get alot cheaper reels and put some money back in my arse pocket.The thing is own them now and have no need to sell them
I won't be having any,even with what I could buy them at I won't.After owning the xtb mgs it has put me off,I like my Basia's too much.The only thing I'm tempted by is selling my castizms and my basias to get alot cheaper reels and put some money back in my arse pocket.The thing is own them now and have no need to sell them
In reply to Post #27
Give the fox ones a go. Let's face it we don't keep reels forever so why not just upgrade the cheaper reels every few years. Or buy high end then sell after a few years at probably a bigger loss than buying cheaper ones new periodically
I'm tempted to get the new fox ones. Currently using emblem 35scw , and now I've put felt washers in there are tremendous EXCEPT the line goes behind the spool more than I like. Also line got trapped under drag knob. So very tempted by the new fox offering. I'm a very part time angler aswell so i don't need a 500 pound reel made of diamonds. And the cheaper reels that are produced will do the job I need perfectly fine. When I say cheaper I'm talking emblem price bracket.
Give the fox ones a go. Let's face it we don't keep reels forever so why not just upgrade the cheaper reels every few years. Or buy high end then sell after a few years at probably a bigger loss than buying cheaper ones new periodically
I'm tempted to get the new fox ones. Currently using emblem 35scw , and now I've put felt washers in there are tremendous EXCEPT the line goes behind the spool more than I like. Also line got trapped under drag knob. So very tempted by the new fox offering. I'm a very part time angler aswell so i don't need a 500 pound reel made of diamonds. And the cheaper reels that are produced will do the job I need perfectly fine. When I say cheaper I'm talking emblem price bracket.
In reply to Post #28
I'll stick With my power Aeros,1st class,👍😎
I'll stick With my power Aeros,1st class,👍😎
In reply to Post #28
If I was starting again I would definitely go down that route of cheaper reels as there is no way in hell these top end reels are worth the money.
If I was starting again I would definitely go down that route of cheaper reels as there is no way in hell these top end reels are worth the money.
In reply to Post #30
It depends really in what you're doing Bradders. Like I was banging on (boringly so) it was the weight saving for me which did make a difference. I had the XTB Ultegrea's [great reel] just that I was fishing at some distance and felt so much lighter and nicer to use after I got the reels I've got now. All in all, even though what I've got now is ridiculously expensive to what I had, the very marginal betterness (sp) was worth it.
I'll happily keep the Techs I've got until they fall apart.
Like the poster you replied to, the Power Aero's are all you really need unless you fancy plunging a load of cash for very tiny gains. You could buy similar in any brand and they'll be ample. One reel that I love and would never part with is my set of Cardinal 55's. For me, with all of its limitations and lack of bells and whistles is the one. That clutch sound is from the gods, nothing truly like it.
It depends really in what you're doing Bradders. Like I was banging on (boringly so) it was the weight saving for me which did make a difference. I had the XTB Ultegrea's [great reel] just that I was fishing at some distance and felt so much lighter and nicer to use after I got the reels I've got now. All in all, even though what I've got now is ridiculously expensive to what I had, the very marginal betterness (sp) was worth it.
I'll happily keep the Techs I've got until they fall apart.
Like the poster you replied to, the Power Aero's are all you really need unless you fancy plunging a load of cash for very tiny gains. You could buy similar in any brand and they'll be ample. One reel that I love and would never part with is my set of Cardinal 55's. For me, with all of its limitations and lack of bells and whistles is the one. That clutch sound is from the gods, nothing truly like it.
In reply to Post #31
My Basia does not do anything that a penn 7000 won't,I can put a lead just as far with both reels,I have tried them both on my rods.
My Basia does not do anything that a penn 7000 won't,I can put a lead just as far with both reels,I have tried them both on my rods.
In reply to Post #30
You say that about expensive reels but I think I got my ISO's around 2006 / 2008 and at the time they were £285 brand new. They have given me roughly 15 years of good use and they have only been serviced once in that time (for free, by a former member on here - Retro)
I would consider that good value.
You say that about expensive reels but I think I got my ISO's around 2006 / 2008 and at the time they were £285 brand new. They have given me roughly 15 years of good use and they have only been serviced once in that time (for free, by a former member on here - Retro)
I would consider that good value.
In reply to Post #33
That is good value but I bet there is not one top end modern reel that will last that well
That is good value but I bet there is not one top end modern reel that will last that well
In reply to Post #34
Yeah maybe, I reckon the ISO's were the last of the ultra reliable top end reels.
Yeah maybe, I reckon the ISO's were the last of the ultra reliable top end reels.
In reply to Post #35
My original silver basias, I had for about 11 years, and they were second hand. Most things last if you look after them.
My original silver basias, I had for about 11 years, and they were second hand. Most things last if you look after them.
In reply to Post #36
I had some smaller Daiwa reels - regal plus I think, two of them just fell apart in my hand under load!
I had some smaller Daiwa reels - regal plus I think, two of them just fell apart in my hand under load!
In reply to Post #31
Does the weight make that much difference though? Spodding set ups are far heavier than fishing rods and reels, and used repetitively. Surely that's where you want and need the weight savings
Does the weight make that much difference though? Spodding set ups are far heavier than fishing rods and reels, and used repetitively. Surely that's where you want and need the weight savings
In reply to Post #38
I would have said it makes a difference over time, I mean the heavier the reel, the more it's going to knacker you out either spodding or just casting around finding or hitting spots.
I would have said it makes a difference over time, I mean the heavier the reel, the more it's going to knacker you out either spodding or just casting around finding or hitting spots.
In reply to Post #28
I've just tried to find out about the new fox ones on.the internet . Todber Manor have them on pre order for £180. For that money I'd give them a go if I were in the market For new reels. Fwiw I'm normally a shimano man, however I do own Daiwa reels. I'd buy the latest Shimano msgs if I had the money, unfortunately I have to live in the real world like most of us.
I've just tried to find out about the new fox ones on.the internet . Todber Manor have them on pre order for £180. For that money I'd give them a go if I were in the market For new reels. Fwiw I'm normally a shimano man, however I do own Daiwa reels. I'd buy the latest Shimano msgs if I had the money, unfortunately I have to live in the real world like most of us.
In reply to Post #16
I've just watched the ad for the xsd sea fishing version where the fisherman lands a fish of a few pounds. Hardly promoting them for skulldragging catfish out of lily pads are they. Most reels for carp fishing are overpriced and engineered to be lightweight rather than tough and longlife.
Stick a slosh 20 on a big ballista you could probably land anything on that combo.
I've just watched the ad for the xsd sea fishing version where the fisherman lands a fish of a few pounds. Hardly promoting them for skulldragging catfish out of lily pads are they. Most reels for carp fishing are overpriced and engineered to be lightweight rather than tough and longlife.
Stick a slosh 20 on a big ballista you could probably land anything on that combo.
In reply to Post #9
Lol.
The reel looks intriguing.
Lol.
The reel looks intriguing.
In reply to Post #43
for carp fishing any reel will do the job as good as the next really. if you as lure fishing for GT's in the sea then you need a good reel to cope with the drag pressure and long runs, lets face it carp don't really take 100 yard runs.
I spoke with a top long range angler about reels and when he was with shimano he said the difference in the distance he could cast with a aerlex and a technium was about 5 yards at 200 plus yards so is the £400 difference worth it.
there are so many good reels now at around the £100 to £150 price tag.
yes the basia is light but 95% of the time reels are on a alarm
for carp fishing any reel will do the job as good as the next really. if you as lure fishing for GT's in the sea then you need a good reel to cope with the drag pressure and long runs, lets face it carp don't really take 100 yard runs.
I spoke with a top long range angler about reels and when he was with shimano he said the difference in the distance he could cast with a aerlex and a technium was about 5 yards at 200 plus yards so is the £400 difference worth it.
there are so many good reels now at around the £100 to £150 price tag.
yes the basia is light but 95% of the time reels are on a alarm
In reply to Post #44
98% probably.
98% probably.
In reply to Post #44
Exactly that. Never understood why so many on here regard weight of a reel as a very important factor before buying them.
Exactly that. Never understood why so many on here regard weight of a reel as a very important factor before buying them.
In reply to Post #46
Yep, I agree.
Yep, I agree.
Reels like these and Basia's are not necessarily worth it or needed. But are a nice to have if you want to have a status symbol set up.
Bit like a Omega or Rolex watch on your wrist.
Bit like a Omega or Rolex watch on your wrist.
In reply to Post #48
A status symbol setup? You mean win a d1ck swinging contest lol?!
A status symbol setup? You mean win a d1ck swinging contest lol?!
In reply to Post #48
Hardly a status thing. Some people just like nice things. If people can afford them, then good for them. Not sure people look around a lake and consider others without them to be of lower status though.
Hardly a status thing. Some people just like nice things. If people can afford them, then good for them. Not sure people look around a lake and consider others without them to be of lower status though.
In reply to Post #46
For me, a lighter reel just feels nicer to use. My rods with the reels just feel far lighter and more nimble, sorta wand like. Better.
Try it for yourself, if you've got something the size of say a ss2600, put that on your rod and then go back to your Penns. Yup, the example is extreme, though it makes the point.
All of this to a degree is subjective. If having a lightweight reel makes any difference to you and you want X brand expensive, go for it, if you don't want it, just don't and maybe put money into things you believe are more important.
For me, a lighter reel just feels nicer to use. My rods with the reels just feel far lighter and more nimble, sorta wand like. Better.
Try it for yourself, if you've got something the size of say a ss2600, put that on your rod and then go back to your Penns. Yup, the example is extreme, though it makes the point.
All of this to a degree is subjective. If having a lightweight reel makes any difference to you and you want X brand expensive, go for it, if you don't want it, just don't and maybe put money into things you believe are more important.
In reply to Post #51
I don't have the Penn's anymore. I use the gold spool emblems ATM. But I do actually have an ss2600 aswell which I've put on my rods, and it makes little difference. Nor when I go the other way and put my old longcast baitrunners from my catfish setup on. I can understand why people want light reels if they are out long trotting on the river, or wandering round with lures, but when the only time we as carp anglers have the rod in our hands is either casting out or playing fish and the vast majority is on the rests it makes sod all difference if a reel weighs a few grams more than another
I don't have the Penn's anymore. I use the gold spool emblems ATM. But I do actually have an ss2600 aswell which I've put on my rods, and it makes little difference. Nor when I go the other way and put my old longcast baitrunners from my catfish setup on. I can understand why people want light reels if they are out long trotting on the river, or wandering round with lures, but when the only time we as carp anglers have the rod in our hands is either casting out or playing fish and the vast majority is on the rests it makes sod all difference if a reel weighs a few grams more than another
In reply to Post #51
Oh i do agree to an extent. My basias knocked spots off my tournies. And were far more pleasurable to use.
I would just like to see more put into reducing weight of spodding and marker set ups, cause that i where i think we would most benefit from weight savings
Oh i do agree to an extent. My basias knocked spots off my tournies. And were far more pleasurable to use.
I would just like to see more put into reducing weight of spodding and marker set ups, cause that i where i think we would most benefit from weight savings
In reply to Post #53
you can buy one of these new mags for spodding
you can buy one of these new mags for spodding
For my occasional long distance reels I have an old set of Shimano Ultegra 10,000 XSC reels. The lightness compared to my Shimano Big Baitrunner Long Cast is huge and helps with rod speed.
But anything up to 120 still use the Long Casts or 8010 Aero GT Baitrunners as I prefer a baitrunner reel.
But anything up to 120 still use the Long Casts or 8010 Aero GT Baitrunners as I prefer a baitrunner reel.
In reply to Post #1
I've got the 12000 xtb and xtb mags
sold my basia qdx as didnt like them at all, even though i could cast further with the basia.
45mm spool on a technium id give it a go.
I've got the 12000 xtb and xtb mags
sold my basia qdx as didnt like them at all, even though i could cast further with the basia.
45mm spool on a technium id give it a go.
Not out til January and I believe going be around £650rrp
In reply to Post #57
Johnsonrosstackle advised eay dec to me and shimno has posted 620
Johnsonrosstackle advised eay dec to me and shimno has posted 620
In reply to Post #58
Thats not a bad price if true
Thats not a bad price if true
In reply to Post #59
At least maybe the price of old xtas will go down as I would like to buy 9 more
At least maybe the price of old xtas will go down as I would like to buy 9 more
In reply to Post #60
Didn't they have a common fault
Didn't they have a common fault
In reply to Post #59
Oh yea bargain Tony!
Oh yea bargain Tony!
In reply to Post #62
Compared to what I have spent in last few years it is
Compared to what I have spent in last few years it is
In reply to Post #63
What do your mates reckon to these?
What do your mates reckon to these?
In reply to Post #61
and that would be? Using them for 10+ years and haven found any.
and that would be? Using them for 10+ years and haven found any.
In reply to Post #64
My mates love them but one of them has heard that during testing some line came off the spool during a cast
My mates love them but one of them has heard that during testing some line came off the spool during a cast
In reply to Post #65
The screw loosening on the slider and it wears and eventually fails
The screw loosening on the slider and it wears and eventually fails
In reply to Post #67
Me and my mates must be lucky then! Will check it out.
Me and my mates must be lucky then! Will check it out.
In reply to Post #67
Is that the xta that is the same body as the original xt? i believe some xt's have failed this way after the screw has come loose.
My original 4 xt's are over 20 years old and have been my main reels in this time have been opened a couple of times for services etc on every occasion the screw has still been tight with no sign of undoing, i dont think its as common a fault as being made out.
Is that the xta that is the same body as the original xt? i believe some xt's have failed this way after the screw has come loose.
My original 4 xt's are over 20 years old and have been my main reels in this time have been opened a couple of times for services etc on every occasion the screw has still been tight with no sign of undoing, i dont think its as common a fault as being made out.
In reply to Post #69
In reply to Post #69
That might be it,thanks for clearing that up
That might be it,thanks for clearing that up
In reply to Post #71
Its not very common but when they did fail this way they could cause a lot of damage as far as i am aware it is something that most people that service reels check, i was shown and told about it from gary at custom reels.
Its not very common but when they did fail this way they could cause a lot of damage as far as i am aware it is something that most people that service reels check, i was shown and told about it from gary at custom reels.
In reply to Post #71
The screw come loose as often as basia spindles bend, both very rare but let's not let facts get in the way of the my mates mate stories.
The screw come loose as often as basia spindles bend, both very rare but let's not let facts get in the way of the my mates mate stories.
In reply to Post #73
In reply to Post #72
Just had my Castizms serviced and I know that Ant who did them has done a few of the techs with the screw issue
Just had my Castizms serviced and I know that Ant who did them has done a few of the techs with the screw issue
In reply to Post #75
Locktite on service, rare issue sorted.
Locktite on service, rare issue sorted.
In reply to Post #76
In reply to Post #77
Loads of technium on ebay now. People really think they getting 1500 for a set of now discontinued reels?
Loads of technium on ebay now. People really think they getting 1500 for a set of now discontinued reels?
In reply to Post #78
It's nice to have dreams
It's nice to have dreams
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In reply to Post #1
Don't understand spending nearly 2k on a set of reels🤷♂️
How much bait or decent ticket would that buy you
Anyway a lot of people don't even cast nowadays 🤣🎣🎣
Don't understand spending nearly 2k on a set of reels🤷♂️
How much bait or decent ticket would that buy you
Anyway a lot of people don't even cast nowadays 🤣🎣🎣
In reply to Post #83
I dont understand people spending far more every year on cigarettes and alcohol but people do
I dont understand people spending far more every year on cigarettes and alcohol but people do
In reply to Post #84
people buy 100k cars... how much bait is that?
people buy 100k cars... how much bait is that?
In reply to Post #85
I'm not downgrading my cars to that much
I'm not downgrading my cars to that much
In reply to Post #83
Anyway a lot of people don't even cast nowadays 🤣🎣🎣
No they pay up to and over 2k+ for a baitboat instead 
Anyway a lot of people don't even cast nowadays 🤣🎣🎣
No they pay up to and over 2k+ for a baitboat instead
In reply to Post #87
A mere 2k, Pftt. If you're poor you do...
A mere 2k, Pftt. If you're poor you do...
Given sales of the 14000 aero technium were below the prior 12000 model and that most seemed to go for second hand 12000's, I'm not surprised they have brought out this model, taking the chrome design features directly from the 12000. Adding the 45mm spool and increasing the body size has reduced the appeal to me; whilst I'm sure it will now cast a bit further than the 35mm spools, in the right hands, it now looks like the oversized Daiwa's, albeit with Shimano's superior engineering. I quite liked the old 14000 model but I never really saw any real gains to justify the £200 price differential over the Power Aero; same applies here really, prefer the slightly more compact size of the power aero and only 5gms weight difference, which makes no difference
In reply to Post #89
I like em, small but important upgrades, being a heavy mono user at distance these look good.
Need the blingy ones though to match me blingy alps and blingy metalware, bring em on I say.
The no spare spool though is not good at all
I like em, small but important upgrades, being a heavy mono user at distance these look good.
Need the blingy ones though to match me blingy alps and blingy metalware, bring em on I say.
The no spare spool though is not good at all
In reply to Post #90
Fair enough, yep agree re spare spool, they should do better at current £620 rrp!
Fair enough, yep agree re spare spool, they should do better at current £620 rrp!
In reply to Post #90
No spare spool is disappointing
No spare spool is disappointing
In reply to Post #92
The shimano vid in post 1 states you DO get a spare spool
The shimano vid in post 1 states you DO get a spare spool
In reply to Post #93
You do and for once its exactly the same as on the reel,Shimano used to put a horrible different colour spool as the spare on a few models
You do and for once its exactly the same as on the reel,Shimano used to put a horrible different colour spool as the spare on a few models
In reply to Post #94
All I can say is , if I had the dough, I'd buy them. Unfortunately at the moment I don't.
All I can say is , if I had the dough, I'd buy them. Unfortunately at the moment I don't.
In reply to Post #95
When in the shops?
When in the shops?
In reply to Post #96
Don't know when they are available, but due to price, they won't be available to me unless heavily discounted. Which is very unlikely
Don't know when they are available, but due to price, they won't be available to me unless heavily discounted. Which is very unlikely
In reply to Post #97
Good luck with that 👍
Picked up another Tech XTC last week from a well known shop; guy told me bout the new Tech's that they're more than likely won't be in the shops before Christmas due to the cobblers going on with imports. How true that one is is anyone's guess.
Anyway, the new ones look well s4it with all the Jimmy Savile jingle jangle going on...best looking ones so far are the XTC's in my book.
Good luck with that 👍
Picked up another Tech XTC last week from a well known shop; guy told me bout the new Tech's that they're more than likely won't be in the shops before Christmas due to the cobblers going on with imports. How true that one is is anyone's guess.
Anyway, the new ones look well s4it with all the Jimmy Savile jingle jangle going on...best looking ones so far are the XTC's in my book.
In reply to Post #96
According to Kent tackle end of November/beginning of December
According to Kent tackle end of November/beginning of December
In reply to Post #99
I know you're going to buy a set 👌
I know you're going to buy a set 👌
In reply to Post #100
Er,who knows
Er,who knows
In reply to Post #101
Knew it
Knew it
In reply to Post #102
I haven't
I haven't
In reply to Post #98
The XTC are indeed very good looking reels, even more when you put wooden handle knop on them🎣
The XTC are indeed very good looking reels, even more when you put wooden handle knop on them🎣
In reply to Post #103
I'm tempted
I'm tempted
In reply to Post #105
Let me know what you think
Let me know what you think
In reply to Post #106
I'm avin em defo now with spare spool
Not sure of codes but the shiney ones for me
The subtle changes have got me written all over them
I'm avin em defo now with spare spool
Not sure of codes but the shiney ones for me
The subtle changes have got me written all over them
In reply to Post #107
Xsd
Xsd
In reply to Post #108
Perfect sir, incoming asap
Perfect sir, incoming asap
In reply to Post #1
All they'd need to do to cause a riot at all tackle shops is to announce they were re releasing the original tech 12000.
Same with Daiwa...if they'd re release the SS3000 without the kerchunk.
Game over....
All they'd need to do to cause a riot at all tackle shops is to announce they were re releasing the original tech 12000.
Same with Daiwa...if they'd re release the SS3000 without the kerchunk.
Game over....
In reply to Post #110
SS3000's with modern but robust internals, if that's possible! They'd sell them at £500 plus no problem. Agree on the 12000's also. Will never happen sadly
SS3000's with modern but robust internals, if that's possible! They'd sell them at £500 plus no problem. Agree on the 12000's also. Will never happen sadly
In reply to Post #108
Now on order looking forward to these
Now on order looking forward to these
In reply to Post #113
Very nice,have they given you a delivery date
Very nice,have they given you a delivery date
In reply to Post #114
November delivery but might not be easy to get hold of after the first few batches not sure what that's about
Ordered the wife a new car, July next year being quoted wtf.
November delivery but might not be easy to get hold of after the first few batches not sure what that's about
Ordered the wife a new car, July next year being quoted wtf.
In reply to Post #115
It's this crazy world we are living in
It's this crazy world we are living in
In reply to Post #110
I think the XT 10,000 would be the one to re-release for a storm at the tackle shops.
I think the XT 10,000 would be the one to re-release for a storm at the tackle shops.
Not that looks mean much in a reel but aesthetically they look proper poo 💩
In reply to Post #117
Why would they want to release an inferior product? Shimano don't go backwards as far as I'm aware?
Why would they want to release an inferior product? Shimano don't go backwards as far as I'm aware?
In reply to Post #118
Agreed 👍
I think that the use of black and silver is to denote their top tier equipment, like the XTR pasts for instance. I'd have much preferred for Shimano to to the same as the last version but just added the new technologies they've come up with, would have looked so much better in my eyes, but hey, beauty is in the eye of the beholder right?
Agreed 👍
I think that the use of black and silver is to denote their top tier equipment, like the XTR pasts for instance. I'd have much preferred for Shimano to to the same as the last version but just added the new technologies they've come up with, would have looked so much better in my eyes, but hey, beauty is in the eye of the beholder right?
In reply to Post #119
Such a simple thing as a spool clicker design on later shimano big pit reels proves they have gone backwards
Such a simple thing as a spool clicker design on later shimano big pit reels proves they have gone backwards
In reply to Post #120
At least they've put the XTB handles in them not the poxy ultegra XTD jobbies they look like a fat birds legs they're so chunky 😂
At least they've put the XTB handles in them not the poxy ultegra XTD jobbies they look like a fat birds legs they're so chunky 😂
Don't really know much about the Shimano big pit reels. What's the difference between the XTD and the XSD apart from cosmetics. Are there any other differences? If the only difference is the cosmetics, would I be right inassuming that this would apply to all aero techniums?
In reply to Post #123
One is for surf fishing,one is for freshwater
One is for surf fishing,one is for freshwater
In reply to Post #124
But are they identical mechanically. Is it just cosmetics that determines the difference between the two.
But are they identical mechanically. Is it just cosmetics that determines the difference between the two.
In reply to Post #125
I think it is just cosmetics
I think it is just cosmetics
In reply to Post #126
Take it your about to order having sold the basia 20's?
Take it your about to order having sold the basia 20's?
In reply to Post #127
You never know,I might take a look at them
You never know,I might take a look at them
In reply to Post #126
Yes, agree, just cosmetics.
Some parts are interchangeable between different reels/models.
e.g. quite a few people like to take parts from the XTC Tech Mag (Black) and put on the XTB Tech Mag (also black, but some parts were shiny silver which can be replaced with black versions)
Yes, agree, just cosmetics.
Some parts are interchangeable between different reels/models.
e.g. quite a few people like to take parts from the XTC Tech Mag (Black) and put on the XTB Tech Mag (also black, but some parts were shiny silver which can be replaced with black versions)
In reply to Post #129
There is a company that do a kit to change all the silver bits on the xtb mgs to black.
There is a company that do a kit to change all the silver bits on the xtb mgs to black.
In reply to Post #130
Indeed, £120 for a kit that does 3.
I have 7 that I was going to do...although I already purchased a couple of the individual bits I found on eBay.
I might flog 3 as they are boxed like new, and they're currently going for circa £1400 (for 3) on the Shimano pages on Facebook.
That'll be useful money to go towards these new models. I like the look of them
Indeed, £120 for a kit that does 3.
I have 7 that I was going to do...although I already purchased a couple of the individual bits I found on eBay.
I might flog 3 as they are boxed like new, and they're currently going for circa £1400 (for 3) on the Shimano pages on Facebook.
That'll be useful money to go towards these new models. I like the look of them
In reply to Post #131
In reply to Post #130
Witch Company?
Witch Company?
In reply to Post #133
https://mjltackle.co.uk/product/shimano-aero-technium-12000-xtb-mgs-stealth-kit/
Or you can source the parts yourself ...
Parts to make the (older) Shimano XTB Aero MgS 12000 all black:
Shimano Aero MgS 14000 XTC PARTS (BLACK)
1-Rd 18960-Rear Protector A
1-Rd 18961-Rear Protector B
1-7875-Oil Screw
Shimano Ultegra XTD 14000 PARTS (BLACK)
1-17992-Bail Spring Cover apologies, I was misinformed. Please check all/any of these before parting with money
2-17991-Screws
1-17994-Bail Spring Guard apologies, I was misinformed. Please check all/any of these before parting with money
2-13034-Screws
Price is around £25 to £30 per reel
https://mjltackle.co.uk/product/shimano-aero-technium-12000-xtb-mgs-stealth-kit/
Or you can source the parts yourself ...
Parts to make the (older) Shimano XTB Aero MgS 12000 all black:
Shimano Aero MgS 14000 XTC PARTS (BLACK)
1-Rd 18960-Rear Protector A
1-Rd 18961-Rear Protector B
1-7875-Oil Screw
Shimano Ultegra XTD 14000 PARTS (BLACK)
2-17991-Screws
2-13034-Screws
Price is around £25 to £30 per reel
In reply to Post #133
How spooky. I was gonna ask the same thing 
How spooky. I was gonna ask the same thing
I'm glad Karlos knew because I could not remember the name of the company
In reply to Post #134
1-17992-Bail Spring Cover
1-17994-Bail Spring Guard
Are not the correct Part Numbers to fit the Technium, I've just bought them and they are too small, these parts are from the 5500 Model not the 14000.
1-17992-Bail Spring Cover
1-17994-Bail Spring Guard
Are not the correct Part Numbers to fit the Technium, I've just bought them and they are too small, these parts are from the 5500 Model not the 14000.
In reply to Post #138
Bugger!
Sorry mate. That information I posted was from a Facebook group, a guy who was showing of his ‘stealth XTBs'
I only managed to find one bit to swap out on my reels, the ‘heel' at the rear bottom
The other bits I couldn't find on eBay (but then everything was in short supply during COVID last year)
Bugger!
Sorry mate. That information I posted was from a Facebook group, a guy who was showing of his ‘stealth XTBs'
I only managed to find one bit to swap out on my reels, the ‘heel' at the rear bottom
The other bits I couldn't find on eBay (but then everything was in short supply during COVID last year)
Just seen them and dont like them at all. They look very cheap and i wasnt impressed with my last black if im honest so not for me.
Ordered 3 sets from MJL delayed delivery on them end of November being quoted down to Shimano stocks 🤷♂️
In reply to Post #140
Were your last black the XTC model?
Lots of people didn't like them, they're plastic looking compared to the XTB
Were your last black the XTC model?
Lots of people didn't like them, they're plastic looking compared to the XTB
In reply to Post #142
I had the first black mags, the 12000 xtb's. I think shimano have went down hill ever since the original tech 1000 xt.
I had the first black mags, the 12000 xtb's. I think shimano have went down hill ever since the original tech 1000 xt.
In reply to Post #143
Anyone had a chance to use these yet?
Anyone had a chance to use these yet?
In reply to Post #144
Not out yet so have to wait a week or two I think for feedback....
£600-650 should be good really shouldn't they
Not out yet so have to wait a week or two I think for feedback....
£600-650 should be good really shouldn't they
In reply to Post #145
Thats what price the first black mags were when they came out and i personally didnt rate them at all. Time will tell if the new ones are any better.
Thats what price the first black mags were when they came out and i personally didnt rate them at all. Time will tell if the new ones are any better.
Three of the new mgs forsale on Dangler already £1700
In reply to Post #147
Good luck with that will get them new for not much more
Good luck with that will get them new for not much more
In reply to Post #147
But are they for sale...
Buyer beware
But are they for sale...
Buyer beware
In reply to Post #148
I would get them for a lot less
I would get them for a lot less
In reply to Post #150
Seen then advertised on eBay from BobCo tackle (are they like well dodgement?) for £619 a piece, not much more than what I payed for my last Tech XTC.
You seen them in the flesh so to speak yet Bradders? If so, any good?
Seen then advertised on eBay from BobCo tackle (are they like well dodgement?) for £619 a piece, not much more than what I payed for my last Tech XTC.
You seen them in the flesh so to speak yet Bradders? If so, any good?
In reply to Post #150
Feel free to dm me...poingestres have stock and 1674 for 3. Might wait till black Friday and bite the bullet. Tell the wife not to look as its Christmas presents lol
Feel free to dm me...poingestres have stock and 1674 for 3. Might wait till black Friday and bite the bullet. Tell the wife not to look as its Christmas presents lol
In reply to Post #152
Just to add i cant believe how expensive the old model is still. I would have thought they would be reduced to 350 or something like that
Just to add i cant believe how expensive the old model is still. I would have thought they would be reduced to 350 or something like that
In reply to Post #151
Seen lots advertised at £559, doesn't bode well if they are already discounting, either that or the rrp is significantly inflated
Seen lots advertised at £559, doesn't bode well if they are already discounting, either that or the rrp is significantly inflated
In reply to Post #154
Really? You sure that the new ones...I doubt it..but please share
Really? You sure that the new ones...I doubt it..but please share
In reply to Post #154
They'll end up a similar price the the older ones over time, just a case of waiting long enough before they become a bit more sensible...before the next new one comes out a year later 😅
They'll end up a similar price the the older ones over time, just a case of waiting long enough before they become a bit more sensible...before the next new one comes out a year later 😅
In reply to Post #1
Got a set from uttings. Havent been on the bank with them yet, but first impressions big improvement over last model in terms of looks and feel.
Got a set from uttings. Havent been on the bank with them yet, but first impressions big improvement over last model in terms of looks and feel.
In reply to Post #151
Not seen them yet
Not seen them yet
In reply to Post #157
How much you pay if you don't mind me asking?
How much you pay if you don't mind me asking?
In reply to Post #159
620 a reel. Talked to a few tackle shops about price and been told they would only make roughly 30 quid per a reel. And shimno has advised that 620 is what they should be selling at for a set of three.
620 a reel. Talked to a few tackle shops about price and been told they would only make roughly 30 quid per a reel. And shimno has advised that 620 is what they should be selling at for a set of three.
Al be looking at getting the silver ones when available and the price gos down
In reply to Post #161
Silver ones due any day, lets see how we go
Silver ones due any day, lets see how we go
In reply to Post #160
Yea poingestres is same price but you get 10% off if you have an account. My fall back if there are no better black Friday deals
Yea poingestres is same price but you get 10% off if you have an account. My fall back if there are no better black Friday deals
In reply to Post #151
I've used bobco. Good honest people
I've used bobco. Good honest people
In reply to Post #164
Got mine from uttings i was let down by usual tackle shop due not getting as many as expected. Apprently ad only got something in the mist of 20 for all shops.
Got mine from uttings i was let down by usual tackle shop due not getting as many as expected. Apprently ad only got something in the mist of 20 for all shops.
Picked up 3 this afternoon! First impressions definitely better build quality than my XTC's
In reply to Post #1
Had a play about with one in Bobco today.
Cheap looking handle...rotor wobble.
Does it feel special...not really,
Does it feel like it's worth £620...no chance.
They'll be £500 apeice after xmas...and they still won't be worth that.
If only we could go back to the time when items were made to a spec not a price.
Had a play about with one in Bobco today.
Cheap looking handle...rotor wobble.
Does it feel special...not really,
Does it feel like it's worth £620...no chance.
They'll be £500 apeice after xmas...and they still won't be worth that.
If only we could go back to the time when items were made to a spec not a price.
In reply to Post #167
Surprised by the rotor wobble
Surprised by the rotor wobble
In reply to Post #167
They do look cheap mind. They look like a £150 reel.
They do look cheap mind. They look like a £150 reel.
Always made me wonder why they've never brought out a 5500 Tech?
In reply to Post #170
5500 is the perfect size for me but everyone is obsessed with 3.75tc rods and huge egg whisk reels for some reason so they probably think they wouldnt sell.
5500 is the perfect size for me but everyone is obsessed with 3.75tc rods and huge egg whisk reels for some reason so they probably think they wouldnt sell.
Any one got the tech mgs xsd yet and can let me know what the like looking at getting a set for my new rods and 15 % off at total fishing tackle
In reply to Post #172
They had a set at Bobco at weekend....they look better than the xtd imo
They had a set at Bobco at weekend....they look better than the xtd imo
These won't be hitting UK stores until at least March or April,Daiwa reckon they won't be getting a delivery until May.The world's gone made
In reply to Post #174
Cant get hold of the silver ones for love or money, give up now keeping the Techniums.
My mate sold his mags in November to get these now being told late March early April, my view is that that they aint coming full stop!!
Gone off me now.
Cant get hold of the silver ones for love or money, give up now keeping the Techniums.
My mate sold his mags in November to get these now being told late March early April, my view is that that they aint coming full stop!!
Gone off me now.
In reply to Post #175
If your mate wants the xtd version tell him Fishernator in Germany have them in stock.If you email them they will send you a code for a little bit of discount I ordered mine Thursday at 6pm on Fed Ex Economy and they have just been delivered
If your mate wants the xtd version tell him Fishernator in Germany have them in stock.If you email them they will send you a code for a little bit of discount
I ordered mine Thursday at 6pm on Fed Ex Economy and they have just been delivered
In reply to Post #176
I knew you'd crumble
What they like Bradders, you liking them? Did you have to pay any crazy EU related taxes or fees?
I knew you'd crumble
What they like Bradders, you liking them? Did you have to pay any crazy EU related taxes or fees?
In reply to Post #177
Just had them out the box to have a little play so too early to tell and they are getting took off me now (valentines present from the wife).The level of service from Fishernator is superb and delivery was only £11.33 I think or £11.53 and no crazy EU fees
Just had them out the box to have a little play so too early to tell and they are getting took off me now (valentines present from the wife).The level of service from Fishernator is superb and delivery was only £11.33 I think or £11.53 and no crazy EU fees
In reply to Post #178
Shes a keeper if thats a valentines present, i normally get a case of Budweiser. Ive bought a few things off fishnator and they have been spot on.
Shes a keeper if thats a valentines present, i normally get a case of Budweiser. Ive bought a few things off fishnator and they have been spot on.
In reply to Post #179
Yeah she is definitely a keeper I can't believe how quick the service was from them.I have had uk deliveries take longer
Yeah she is definitely a keeper
I can't believe how quick the service was from them.I have had uk deliveries take longer
In reply to Post #180
She bought me a set of four as well, she's an absolute darling.
She bought me a set of four as well, she's an absolute darling.
In reply to Post #181
Thats no problem at all,so long as you're happy
Thats no problem at all,so long as you're happy
In reply to Post #178
What you getting her... obviously the obligatory Ann Summers number, you also getting her a bunch a flowers, Marks and Sparks gift voucher maybe?
What you getting her... obviously the obligatory Ann Summers number, you also getting her a bunch a flowers, Marks and Sparks gift voucher maybe?
In reply to Post #183
i reckon she would love 3 rods to match them lovely reels
i reckon she would love 3 rods to match them lovely reels
In reply to Post #183
Might book her a nice spa break,she can go have that while I go fishing
Might book her a nice spa break,she can go have that while I go fishing
In reply to Post #178
jus to clarify , your wife spent circa 1700 quid on you for valentines day
jus to clarify , your wife spent circa 1700 quid on you for valentines day
In reply to Post #186
No mate,only fish two rods so £1175
No mate,only fish two rods so £1175
In reply to Post #187
thank god for that, for a minute i thought it was a ridiculous present
its my sons 4th b day on the 10th Feb, might get him a set of three. He wanted the new BASIA but I said to him " look son lets not start a Shimano vs Daiwa debate, otherwise you'll be getting Lego again"
thank god for that, for a minute i thought it was a ridiculous present
its my sons 4th b day on the 10th Feb, might get him a set of three. He wanted the new BASIA but I said to him " look son lets not start a Shimano vs Daiwa debate, otherwise you'll be getting Lego again"
In reply to Post #188
Just because his catch photo album is more impressive than yours that doesn't justify you hampering his progress with inferior reels.
Just because his catch photo album is more impressive than yours that doesn't justify you hampering his progress with inferior reels.
In reply to Post #189
In reply to Post #189
You're only saying that and being minjy coz you know you're getting crotchless knickers AGAIN this valentine's
You're only saying that and being minjy coz you know you're getting crotchless knickers AGAIN this valentine's
In reply to Post #190
Have you ordered yours yet
Have you ordered yours yet
In reply to Post #192
Just orded mine
Just orded mine
In reply to Post #193
Can't beat that for service orded 2 xtd mgs yesterday at 11am from Fishernator in Germany and got them delivered today at 12pm just need to finish work now to av a play with them
In reply to Post #178
****. I'll only get a card if I slip her a fiver to buy it
****. I'll only get a card if I slip her a fiver to buy it
In reply to Post #196
she is robbing you mate 99p from the card factory
she is robbing you mate 99p from the card factory
In reply to Post #197
Was looking for the XSD also, but sold out everywhere....Late April seems to be the date shops will get a new batch..
Was looking for the XSD also, but sold out everywhere....Late April seems to be the date shops will get a new batch..
In reply to Post #198
Fishonator will have them I 2 to 3 weeks mate
Fishonator will have them I 2 to 3 weeks mate
In reply to Post #199
Really, know a guy that works at Shimano, he said it would be late April...
Really, know a guy that works at Shimano, he said it would be late April...
In reply to Post #200
There based in Germany mate shimano won't send over here in small quantities aparantly because of the prices for shipping
There based in Germany mate shimano won't send over here in small quantities aparantly because of the prices for shipping
In reply to Post #201
I live in Holland, the dates are for overhere.
I live in Holland, the dates are for overhere.
In reply to Post #195
Shipping into the UK? Did you have to pay any additional import duties or import vat?
Shipping into the UK? Did you have to pay any additional import duties or import vat?
In reply to Post #203
No you don't
No you don't
In reply to Post #204
How do they manage to get around it?
How do they manage to get around it?
In reply to Post #205
I dont know,maybe it's included in the price.I only paid just over £11 postage and they arrived crazily quick
I dont know,maybe it's included in the price.I only paid just over £11 postage and they arrived crazily quick
In reply to Post #205
That's how it should work but depends on the seller being properly set up to export outside the EU and into the UK. Otherwise you can pay VAT twice (VAT at point of sale plus import VAT) plus any tariff rate on the item.
That's how it should work but depends on the seller being properly set up to export outside the EU and into the UK. Otherwise you can pay VAT twice (VAT at point of sale plus import VAT) plus any tariff rate on the item.
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