I replaced my carp wagon with a nice estate earlier on in the year, whilst it's lovely to drive, and I can fit all my gear inside, I don't like leaving it parked in the bushes, putting muddy gear in etc, I've already paid £400 for a re spray follow some fishing related scratches!
I'm going to spend a little money on an old van, narrowed it down to a 1.9 non turbo D Berlingo circa 2005.
Does anyone have a Berlingo, does all the gear fit? Particularly the rods.
I'm going to spend a little money on an old van, narrowed it down to a 1.9 non turbo D Berlingo circa 2005.
Does anyone have a Berlingo, does all the gear fit? Particularly the rods.
In reply to Post #1
A mate has a berlingo car which two of us go to France in (pre lockdown) x2 lots of gear and bait for a week including 13ft rods not an issue.
Michael
A mate has a berlingo car which two of us go to France in (pre lockdown) x2 lots of gear and bait for a week including 13ft rods not an issue.
Michael
i have a 2016 berlingo i bought for fishing use this year and you will get loads of gear. 2 peoples no problem
we actually took 3 of us (rods on the roof rack) to France in one a few years ago. was full but do-able.
we actually took 3 of us (rods on the roof rack) to France in one a few years ago. was full but do-able.
I have one. You can get plenty in there, ive had mine and my mates stuff in there no probs
In reply to Post #1
If it doesn't have a full height bulk head you should be able to get the rods above your heads into the compartment above the windscreen. If it's ply lined just knock up some supporting rods across the van behind the front seats & where the rear seats would be.
I have the 56 car version and it comes with the option of interior roof bars which I put the rods and bivvy on, great use of a space that would otherwise not be used. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the van versions have the reciever lugs for the roof bars already in place, getting to them might be a pita hence knocking up your own.
If it doesn't have a full height bulk head you should be able to get the rods above your heads into the compartment above the windscreen. If it's ply lined just knock up some supporting rods across the van behind the front seats & where the rear seats would be.
I have the 56 car version and it comes with the option of interior roof bars which I put the rods and bivvy on, great use of a space that would otherwise not be used. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the van versions have the reciever lugs for the roof bars already in place, getting to them might be a pita hence knocking up your own.
In reply to Post #1
I've had two, an 08 without a bulkhead so the rods were slightly poking past the headrest, and a 14 with a bulk head, so the rods had to go in diagnoally. Apart from a baiting spoon getting obliterated by the sliding side door, no issues. Was handy to keep my gear in the back full time.
I've had two, an 08 without a bulkhead so the rods were slightly poking past the headrest, and a 14 with a bulk head, so the rods had to go in diagnoally. Apart from a baiting spoon getting obliterated by the sliding side door, no issues. Was handy to keep my gear in the back full time.
Don't get the non turbo 1.9 it's 0-60 in 3 weeks,had one,apart from that a decent van
I have a non turbo peugeot partner which is the same ,15 plate , it is slow and mine is restricted but its bloody good on fuel and can get plenty in it , and my insurance is £170 a year fully comp , saying that im an old **** and live in scotland which makes a massive difference.
Thanks for the replies guys. I'd actually prefer one with a bulk head from a security point of view, whilst I won't be leaving gear in the motor long term, there is the odd trip to the supermarket etc. Not too fussed if it's slow, I've got a quick car for a bit of fun.
In reply to Post #1
I've put these pics on a few times in the past, I have't got my Renault Kangoo anymore combi version, but it was a great fishing wagon
More or less the same as the Berlingo
I've put these pics on a few times in the past, I have't got my Renault Kangoo anymore combi version, but it was a great fishing wagon
More or less the same as the Berlingo
In reply to Post #1
. . .I've been looking at these for the same reason as you - fed up with having to clean my estate / ground the bumpers on bumps and potholes etc.
Think Citroen Berlingo is exactly the same (barring the lighting cluster & badge) as Peugeot Partner Teepee . . ?
Seem to be more Berlingos about (and cheaper) but I'm going for a wheelchair converted model in the new year as they have an integrated ramp and ready made fixing points / straps for the barrow (straight on / straight off) etc. Most Partners seem to have the roof lining removed for more headspace etc . . .the other benefit with motability vehicles is they are probably serviced fairly regularly . . . .black out the windows at the rear / remove the disabled / Horizon stickers - carpy van/car heaven!
. . .I've been looking at these for the same reason as you - fed up with having to clean my estate / ground the bumpers on bumps and potholes etc.
Think Citroen Berlingo is exactly the same (barring the lighting cluster & badge) as Peugeot Partner Teepee . . ?
Seem to be more Berlingos about (and cheaper) but I'm going for a wheelchair converted model in the new year as they have an integrated ramp and ready made fixing points / straps for the barrow (straight on / straight off) etc. Most Partners seem to have the roof lining removed for more headspace etc . . .the other benefit with motability vehicles is they are probably serviced fairly regularly . . . .black out the windows at the rear / remove the disabled / Horizon stickers - carpy van/car heaven!
In reply to Post #11
I was under the impression that wheelchair converted models were a LOT lower due the the ramp gear underneath ? ( I could be wrong lol)
I was under the impression that wheelchair converted models were a LOT lower due the the ramp gear underneath ? ( I could be wrong lol)
In reply to Post #10
Could you only get 1 tray of beer in there pmsl !
Could you only get 1 tray of beer in there pmsl !
In reply to Post #12
Has anyone actually put bars or supports across the inside of their van to hold their rods like in the pictures? Got a berlingo myself and would like to have this in my van if possible?
Has anyone actually put bars or supports across the inside of their van to hold their rods like in the pictures? Got a berlingo myself and would like to have this in my van if possible?
In reply to Post #12
....one for Paul (Sundance)...he has a wheelchair ramp conversion Peugeot...?
....one for Paul (Sundance)...he has a wheelchair ramp conversion Peugeot...?
In reply to Post #10
was that a day sesh, im like you i only take what i need for a few hours
was that a day sesh, im like you i only take what i need for a few hours
In reply to Post #11
Yes I think the partner is exactly the same. I've also grounded my bumper etc. Seems mad to spend money on a fishing wagon, but even more mad ruining a lovely car.
Yes I think the partner is exactly the same. I've also grounded my bumper etc. Seems mad to spend money on a fishing wagon, but even more mad ruining a lovely car.
In reply to Post #12
Gerry,
They are lower at the back. i can measure if needed
I have a 2001 Kangoo
On newer models you can get additional springs to help the load level
But very handy for everything
Gerry,
They are lower at the back. i can measure if needed
I have a 2001 Kangoo
On newer models you can get additional springs to help the load level
But very handy for everything
In reply to Post #18
Have you had any problems with grounding / clearance at all?
I was also looking at disability vehicles for the new year, but if they suffer on speed humps / uneven tracks, i might need a van instead.
cheers
Have you had any problems with grounding / clearance at all?
I was also looking at disability vehicles for the new year, but if they suffer on speed humps / uneven tracks, i might need a van instead.
cheers
In reply to Post #19
Just buy a motor cycle ramp and use a standard van. No weight issues or ground clearance problems, better security solutions and a lot more to choose from.
Just buy a motor cycle ramp and use a standard van. No weight issues or ground clearance problems, better security solutions and a lot more to choose from.
If concerned about the load lowering the vehicle too much have a look at coil spring assisters on Ebay etc.
I used them many years ago on a different vehicle, worked very well.
Berlingos can take lot of weight.
I used them many years ago on a different vehicle, worked very well.
Berlingos can take lot of weight.
Piece of scaffold plank works for me.
In reply to Post #20
Hmm, could be a good call.
Hmm, could be a good call.
In reply to Post #19
the back does ground out every now and then but its got to be grounding on the floorpan more or less at the same time.
I did ground the back once on the road, although i did have 350kg of paving slabs in the back with 75kg of sand / cement and 20ltrs dulux lol.
2 up in the front also and full tank
it was a bouncy bit on the A47 to leicester, the car behing did back off a little, think it was the sparks
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As for security issues, people tend not to leave stuff in vans after its been stolen the first time, i certainly wouldn't
the back does ground out every now and then but its got to be grounding on the floorpan more or less at the same time.
I did ground the back once on the road, although i did have 350kg of paving slabs in the back with 75kg of sand / cement and 20ltrs dulux lol.
2 up in the front also and full tank
it was a bouncy bit on the A47 to leicester, the car behing did back off a little, think it was the sparks
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As for security issues, people tend not to leave stuff in vans after its been stolen the first time, i certainly wouldn't
In reply to Post #18
yes thought so I remember helping to push one that got stuck and was amazed at how low it was
yes thought so I remember helping to push one that got stuck and was amazed at how low it was
In reply to Post #25
Called it Skippy Gerry,
Amazing little car, starts first time every time and will do nearly 40 on a run unless you drive it like a **** (me)
weighs nothing and keeps up with traffic no probs
sort of car you can park anywhere and doesnt matter if it gets dinged
Called it Skippy Gerry,
Amazing little car, starts first time every time and will do nearly 40 on a run unless you drive it like a **** (me)
weighs nothing and keeps up with traffic no probs
sort of car you can park anywhere and doesnt matter if it gets dinged
In reply to Post #26
I got a Peugeot 406 estate diesel
got a fox barrow and can wheel it straight in the back with the under bag filled and just a bedchair on top and plenty of room for anything thing else down the side I did think about a van but love the comfort too much oh and the 50mpg
I got a Peugeot 406 estate diesel
got a fox barrow and can wheel it straight in the back with the under bag filled and just a bedchair on top and plenty of room for anything thing else down the side I did think about a van but love the comfort too much oh and the 50mpg
In reply to Post #25
. . .would a wheelchair conversion vehicle be lower than a BMW MSport estate . .? They look positively elevated to me but I'll stand corrected - is there a variant that retains more overall clearance?
. . .would a wheelchair conversion vehicle be lower than a BMW MSport estate . .? They look positively elevated to me but I'll stand corrected - is there a variant that retains more overall clearance?
In reply to Post #27
Same with my old Mondeo estate. Could just chuck the explorer barrow in the back and unscrew the handles, job done! The only reason I got rid was it was atrocious on fuel (2.0L) and the exhaust started blowing
Same with my old Mondeo estate. Could just chuck the explorer barrow in the back and unscrew the handles, job done! The only reason I got rid was it was atrocious on fuel (2.0L) and the exhaust started blowing
In reply to Post #13
Could you only get 1 tray of beer in there pmsl !
That was in France, I live in Spain, one more case behind that one, btw the two white boxes have 12 bottles of wine, 6 x white, 6 x Red.
In reply to post 16
was that a day sesh, im like you i only take what i need for a few hours
A week in France for two, as you say, only take the essentials.
Could you only get 1 tray of beer in there pmsl !
That was in France, I live in Spain, one more case behind that one, btw the two white boxes have 12 bottles of wine, 6 x white, 6 x Red.
In reply to post 16
was that a day sesh, im like you i only take what i need for a few hours
A week in France for two, as you say, only take the essentials.
In reply to Post #30
I should think so
I should think so
I bought a Fiat Doblo to carry my fishing gear after initially contemplating using one to transport a road racing motorcycle to meetings.
Cheap as chips to insure and run being an MPV, mpg is circa 45 plus ,top speed somewhat limited due to the brick like structure though. Visibility is much better than a van. 1.9 JTD turbo engines are good for 250K miles plus. Must admit the heater is pants though compared to 4x4s I ran previously. The rear access is a 2/3 split door as well as two large sliding rear doors
Cost was £550 five years ago and I've spent nowt on it except for four tyres, a £30 silencer and oil /filters in 50,000 miles.
First job was unbolt and dump the rear seats.
It can easily carry a Preston 4 wheel shuttle fully loaded with box and rods with handles affixed plus another full sized box and tackle alongside. Basically two match anglers full set ups...and you know how much they carry.
The carp barrow also fits easily ,fully loaded with handles fitted.
The back bumper is just a good size and height that either barrow is easily pivoted on it's rear wheels ,pushed forward so the front wheels sit on top of the bumper, then lifted and pushed straight in. 6ft rod bags fit diagonally if a passenger is carried.
The defunct rear seat locking points make excellent tie down points.
Every thing in the back gets covered with an old NHS bedspread bought for £1 from a charity shop to shield from nosey barstools. It doubles up to put under muddy gear when homeward bound.
I'll be devastated once the supply of old Doblos run out...I really should buy a couple now just to put in the garage.
Cheap as chips to insure and run being an MPV, mpg is circa 45 plus ,top speed somewhat limited due to the brick like structure though. Visibility is much better than a van. 1.9 JTD turbo engines are good for 250K miles plus. Must admit the heater is pants though compared to 4x4s I ran previously. The rear access is a 2/3 split door as well as two large sliding rear doors
Cost was £550 five years ago and I've spent nowt on it except for four tyres, a £30 silencer and oil /filters in 50,000 miles.
First job was unbolt and dump the rear seats.
It can easily carry a Preston 4 wheel shuttle fully loaded with box and rods with handles affixed plus another full sized box and tackle alongside. Basically two match anglers full set ups...and you know how much they carry.
The carp barrow also fits easily ,fully loaded with handles fitted.
The back bumper is just a good size and height that either barrow is easily pivoted on it's rear wheels ,pushed forward so the front wheels sit on top of the bumper, then lifted and pushed straight in. 6ft rod bags fit diagonally if a passenger is carried.
The defunct rear seat locking points make excellent tie down points.
Every thing in the back gets covered with an old NHS bedspread bought for £1 from a charity shop to shield from nosey barstools. It doubles up to put under muddy gear when homeward bound.
I'll be devastated once the supply of old Doblos run out...I really should buy a couple now just to put in the garage.
I have a wheelchair conversion Peugeot expert. the slope of the ramp is lowered into the floor. but the actual van is not lowered.
In reply to Post #33
. . .that's what I thought! Certainly higher clearance than my beamer at any rate . . .def considering a wheelchair car/van for the new year / spring . . .
. . .that's what I thought! Certainly higher clearance than my beamer at any rate . . .def considering a wheelchair car/van for the new year / spring . . .
In reply to Post #33
Oh ok, so it varies. Many thanks. Matter of finding the right one.
Oh ok, so it varies. Many thanks. Matter of finding the right one.
In reply to Post #34
as Martin said On newer models you can get additional springs so sounds like even if you did buy one thats a bit low you could sort it sounds good
as Martin said On newer models you can get additional springs so sounds like even if you did buy one thats a bit low you could sort it sounds good
In reply to Post #18
Hi, Im looking at buying a 2001 renault kangoo 5 door car proffesionaly converted for a wheelchair with ramp, 70.000miles manual 1.9 diesel. £1995, is it too much?, also the small lake I baliff has a very bumpy, deep potholed track leading to it, would it be to low?
Hi, Im looking at buying a 2001 renault kangoo 5 door car proffesionaly converted for a wheelchair with ramp, 70.000miles manual 1.9 diesel. £1995, is it too much?, also the small lake I baliff has a very bumpy, deep potholed track leading to it, would it be to low?
In reply to Post #37
"Is it too much ?"
Whilst the engine has 70K on it...which is next to nothing for that era 1.9 Di the car is still 20 years old.
Every rubber bush/joint, brake component, clutch, electrical circuit, etc are well past their designed lifespan.
Repairing old cars in garages is far more expensive than newer variants on labour costs alone...not a problem if you can do your own repairs/maintenance.
Next...how many wheelchair users would even consider buying a 20yr old car ?
Then there is the conversion...it's a liability not an asset...
I very much doubt it would be anything remotely like cost effective to transfer it to another more modern vehicle.
Removing it leaves the original vehicle requiring more expenditure on replacement parts.
Depending if the original floor has the ramp mechanism fitted above or below it will determine ground clearance...which is not good to start with.
This is why old converted vehicles are nearly worthless IMO.
Who else but someone that requires a ramp for a barrow or a competition motorcycle and has his own tools and knows how to use them is going to buy them ?
How long has it been for sale ?
"Is it too much ?"
Whilst the engine has 70K on it...which is next to nothing for that era 1.9 Di the car is still 20 years old.
Every rubber bush/joint, brake component, clutch, electrical circuit, etc are well past their designed lifespan.
Repairing old cars in garages is far more expensive than newer variants on labour costs alone...not a problem if you can do your own repairs/maintenance.
Next...how many wheelchair users would even consider buying a 20yr old car ?
Then there is the conversion...it's a liability not an asset...
I very much doubt it would be anything remotely like cost effective to transfer it to another more modern vehicle.
Removing it leaves the original vehicle requiring more expenditure on replacement parts.
Depending if the original floor has the ramp mechanism fitted above or below it will determine ground clearance...which is not good to start with.
This is why old converted vehicles are nearly worthless IMO.
Who else but someone that requires a ramp for a barrow or a competition motorcycle and has his own tools and knows how to use them is going to buy them ?
How long has it been for sale ?
In reply to Post #37
That's is a lot of money for what it is but motors like that go on for ever. If it does break you'll need a tool box not a laptop. Parts are very cheap compared to today's cars with a sensor for everything and finding intermittent faults can be a bitch
That's is a lot of money for what it is but motors like that go on for ever. If it does break you'll need a tool box not a laptop. Parts are very cheap compared to today's cars with a sensor for everything and finding intermittent faults can be a bitch
Really appreciate your time and very efficient replies, think Ill save a bit more for a newer model, or even a Berlingo thanks guys, all the best, keep safe, Trev.
I opened this thread up. Ended up getting an 04 Berlingo with a years MOT, new clutch, cam belt, FSH, 4 new tyres, exhaust, pads and shoes, paid £1400. Prices seem to be a little high for vans at the moment but I would recommend the Berlingo, not fast but seems good.
In reply to Post #41
Just seen this old thread about the Berlingo . Just out of curiosity is there a Berlingo model around 2015 / 18 that will take 12'6 rods without having to put them In diagonally, thanks ?
Just seen this old thread about the Berlingo . Just out of curiosity is there a Berlingo model around 2015 / 18 that will take 12'6 rods without having to put them In diagonally, thanks ?
In reply to Post #42
I have a 16 plate Berlingo ,i use the internal roof bars that i bought off market place .
My rods sit above my head and into the internal storage bit above window screen.
I get 6 rods ,2 landing nets ,weigh tripod all above driver and passengers heads with space still to spare ,
and yes 12 6" fit .
I have a 16 plate Berlingo ,i use the internal roof bars that i bought off market place .
My rods sit above my head and into the internal storage bit above window screen.
I get 6 rods ,2 landing nets ,weigh tripod all above driver and passengers heads with space still to spare ,
and yes 12 6" fit .
In reply to Post #43
Thanks for the reply. I don't suppose you can get a 3 rod holdall in like this , thanks?
Thanks for the reply. I don't suppose you can get a 3 rod holdall in like this , thanks?
In reply to Post #44
i don't think a holdall will fit ,my rods just have sleeves .
i don't think a holdall will fit ,my rods just have sleeves .
In reply to Post #45
On the later models you can fold the front seat down and open a hatch in the bulkhead. This allows much longer items to be carried.
On the later models you can fold the front seat down and open a hatch in the bulkhead. This allows much longer items to be carried.
In reply to Post #43
Very interesting, any ideas where to get these?
Very interesting, any ideas where to get these?
In reply to Post #47
Thanks . When you say later models do you mean about 2018 onwards , thanks .
Thanks . When you say later models do you mean about 2018 onwards , thanks .
In reply to Post #47
I should have said i have a Berlingo wav so no bulkhead. The Saint if you was asking about the internal bars ,i got my off market place on f/b theres a few on there now .
I should have said i have a Berlingo wav so no bulkhead. The Saint if you was asking about the internal bars ,i got my off market place on f/b theres a few on there now .
In reply to Post #48
Mines a 10 plate and you can fold down the passenger seat
Mines a 10 plate and you can fold down the passenger seat
In reply to Post #48
I have a 13 plate Berlingo van and the seats fold forwards .
A trip to France for 2 is looming and I also have an enormous roof box if required as it will be my first trip to France in it.
My thinking behind buying the Citroen instead of another Proace or Caddy is that it is French and should it break down it should be easily to get it fixed over there. ( Hopefully I won't find out ).
I have a 13 plate Berlingo van and the seats fold forwards .
A trip to France for 2 is looming and I also have an enormous roof box if required as it will be my first trip to France in it.
My thinking behind buying the Citroen instead of another Proace or Caddy is that it is French and should it break down it should be easily to get it fixed over there. ( Hopefully I won't find out ).
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