Don't get me wrong these are great hook baits but just had a look for some more and cant believe how much they have gone up over the last couple years £17 a tub now more expensive than custom corkballs. There obviously still selling well as every time I go on the basket is disabled.
In reply to Post #1
I bought three tubs a couple of years ago and didn't think twice about it as the prices were comparable with other non-corkball baits. Since then the prices have nearly trebled. It's just nuts now.
I bought three tubs a couple of years ago and didn't think twice about it as the prices were comparable with other non-corkball baits. Since then the prices have nearly trebled. It's just nuts now.
Used them for around 5 yrs but he's Royally taking the piss now !!
In reply to Post #1
that's business though isn't it, when demand out strips supply, put your prices up.
One, to maximise profit and two, hopefully slow demand. Im sure if they wernt as good as they are, no one would buy them and they would be £10 a tub. Ive never used em but the fact they are in such demand, selling out every single time, they must be really good and catch a lot of fish otherwise no one would bother eh.
He seems to add a lot of desirable ingredients, and his reputation, the baits are held in very high regard.
They look well rooled from the images on the site.
Many fans out there ?
that's business though isn't it, when demand out strips supply, put your prices up.
One, to maximise profit and two, hopefully slow demand. Im sure if they wernt as good as they are, no one would buy them and they would be £10 a tub. Ive never used em but the fact they are in such demand, selling out every single time, they must be really good and catch a lot of fish otherwise no one would bother eh.
He seems to add a lot of desirable ingredients, and his reputation, the baits are held in very high regard.
They look well rooled from the images on the site.
Many fans out there ?
In reply to Post #4
Fair play to the guy......if he can sell them faster than he can make them at £15/£17 a pot then good luck to him for building up that demand. In terms of the bait, it is all impeccably rolled and they have been my go-to hookbaits for a few years. A couple of the combos have been amazingly productive for me, so much so, that I have have a few pots stockpiled in case they get discontinued, which one version has. Everyone has their preferences but my own experience with some of these baits means I'll continue to buy them.......even at £17 a pot😳
Fair play to the guy......if he can sell them faster than he can make them at £15/£17 a pot then good luck to him for building up that demand. In terms of the bait, it is all impeccably rolled and they have been my go-to hookbaits for a few years. A couple of the combos have been amazingly productive for me, so much so, that I have have a few pots stockpiled in case they get discontinued, which one version has. Everyone has their preferences but my own experience with some of these baits means I'll continue to buy them.......even at £17 a pot😳
In reply to Post #5
Butt banger, exactly, good luck to him, they clearly work. Any you recommend above the others ?
Butt banger, exactly, good luck to him, they clearly work. Any you recommend above the others ?
In reply to Post #6
Deep Six and Boosted Cell (now renamed Square One think) have been great for me.....over bait or fished as singles👍
Deep Six and Boosted Cell (now renamed Square One think) have been great for me.....over bait or fished as singles👍
They probably cost less than 2 quid a pot to produce including packaging.
In reply to Post #1
Just checked the postage and if it's under £49 it's another £6 delivery..
£23 a POP
Just checked the postage and if it's under £49 it's another £6 delivery..
£23 a POP
In reply to Post #9
Mate just sent me a txt..
I had to check it out as I didn't believe him!
£30 per pot.. this can't be serious?
Mate just sent me a txt..
I had to check it out as I didn't believe him!
£30 per pot.. this can't be serious?
In reply to Post #10
Someone told me earlier 😂 absolute piss take. Hope he ****s everyone off and knowone bothers buying from him. I mean seriously £30. And before someone defends him. **** off
Someone told me earlier 😂 absolute piss take. Hope he ****s everyone off and knowone bothers buying from him. I mean seriously £30. And before someone defends him. **** off
In reply to Post #11
Bet he stills sells a few though to idiots with more money than sense
Bet he stills sells a few though to idiots with more money than sense
Few pots were going for over 50 quid on ebay the outher day for 1 pot
In reply to Post #11
Shocking isn't Joe lol..
I remember paying 6-8 quid a pot.. refused to pay his latest prices, but £30 now 😂😂
Shocking isn't Joe lol..
I remember paying 6-8 quid a pot.. refused to pay his latest prices, but £30 now 😂😂
The price will keep rising until demand drops to a level he can keep up with I expect
In reply to Post #14
For one pot delivered to your door £36.25 😂😂 who the **** are these people that pay this? Are they the same people that make love to turnips
For one pot delivered to your door £36.25 😂😂 who the **** are these people that pay this? Are they the same people that make love to turnips
In reply to Post #16
If it costs more it means it's better lol worked for Chinese Aqua hasn't it lol
If it costs more it means it's better lol worked for Chinese Aqua hasn't it lol
In reply to Post #1
Hats of to the man he is doing great marketing wise.... put out you are selling your company, cut the supply so prices sky rocket and make your company worth more... of course you need to have 1 class product to achieve that normally... good luck to him...
Hats of to the man he is doing great marketing wise.... put out you are selling your company, cut the supply so prices sky rocket and make your company worth more... of course you need to have 1 class product to achieve that normally... good luck to him...
In reply to Post #16
Get what your saying but if there is 30 baits in a pot then its approx £1 per bait / per fish, No different to those super sharp hooks or leads in reality......Add in the confidence factor and its well worth its money to lots of people obviously......
Get what your saying but if there is 30 baits in a pot then its approx £1 per bait / per fish, No different to those super sharp hooks or leads in reality......Add in the confidence factor and its well worth its money to lots of people obviously......
In reply to Post #4
I don't quite believe that this company can't keep up with the demand.
More of a marketing ploy IMO.
They are not making 100's of kilos of bait per week, and with such huge profit margins being made, it would be stupid not to ramp up production to keep up with the demand. Simply involve a mate or two in production or a family member or even a full time member of staff.
I don't quite believe that this company can't keep up with the demand.
More of a marketing ploy IMO.
They are not making 100's of kilos of bait per week, and with such huge profit margins being made, it would be stupid not to ramp up production to keep up with the demand. Simply involve a mate or two in production or a family member or even a full time member of staff.
In reply to Post #20
thing is he closed the shop before putting the price at 30 quid so you can't buy any anyway. the price might as well say 300 quid..........it don't matter because you can't buy them. the price before he put the shutters up was 17.99 which was still ridiculous for airball type baits . I've got a full tub of cell a tub of pineapple and some scopex/squid specials. 200 quid and you can have them lol
thing is he closed the shop before putting the price at 30 quid so you can't buy any anyway. the price might as well say 300 quid..........it don't matter because you can't buy them. the price before he put the shutters up was 17.99 which was still ridiculous for airball type baits . I've got a full tub of cell a tub of pineapple and some scopex/squid specials. 200 quid and you can have them lol
I have not made pop ups before but I have made bottom baits for years using a 40 quid gun and a table plus a kenwood chef. 10kg of bait could be made in 4 hours.
I appreciate there is drying time / admin time but at best 2 days work to sell 10 kg of pop ups / over 300 pots.
25 quid profit per pot gives: 1500 quid gross profit for 2 days work.
All a rough calculation but it's BS to say they can't keep up with the demand.
Ie the demand is simply not there.
I appreciate there is drying time / admin time but at best 2 days work to sell 10 kg of pop ups / over 300 pots.
25 quid profit per pot gives: 1500 quid gross profit for 2 days work.
All a rough calculation but it's BS to say they can't keep up with the demand.
Ie the demand is simply not there.
I do alright on CC Moore Northern Specials. Mate of mine swears by Baitroom Wafters & Pop ups. Each to their own I guess when it comes to price. Clearly there is a demand from anglers who are happily to pay that much. With demand created by disabling the basket too. Good luck to him. 😎
In reply to Post #1
Used em before and just had to check what was being said £30 wow - supply and demand at its best -basic principals of economics.......
Used em before and just had to check what was being said £30 wow - supply and demand at its best -basic principals of economics.......
In reply to Post #1
Non story really the price went upto £30 after the store closed and it won't open until December. Its certainly got people talking about the brand though maybe that was the plan all along 🤔
Non story really the price went upto £30 after the store closed and it won't open until December. Its certainly got people talking about the brand though maybe that was the plan all along 🤔
I was under the impression that shops tend to close when business is suffering.
In reply to Post #25
that's what I said . might as well say 300 you can't buy them and he won't be re-opening until next year or maybe never.
that's what I said . might as well say 300 you can't buy them and he won't be re-opening until next year or maybe never.
Here's a thought. If you were mr bait maker and you didn't have capacity to make any more baits. But you had a load of less popular pots you wanted to get rid of. If you make them £30 on your site, but unobtainable, suddenly if you get a load listed on eBay, for £30, they don't look as expensive. Mr eBay buyer checks your site and sees that £30 is infact the RRP
In reply to Post #28
Has anyone done well on them?
Never used them myself.
Ringers and sticky for me.
Has anyone done well on them?
Never used them myself.
Ringers and sticky for me.
In reply to Post #29
Caught a lot on one particular bait he did but cant get that any more, the bait is very well rolled and the waffters are probably the best out there for doing what they are meant to do and the consistency is spot on.
Caught a lot on one particular bait he did but cant get that any more, the bait is very well rolled and the waffters are probably the best out there for doing what they are meant to do and the consistency is spot on.
In reply to Post #29
Yep
Done really well on them and still have a good selection leftover thankfully
The Deep Six, tiger toffee, and boosted cell are amazing .... Can reel in 12 hrs later and they still smell brilliant
Yep
Done really well on them and still have a good selection leftover thankfully
The Deep Six, tiger toffee, and boosted cell are amazing .... Can reel in 12 hrs later and they still smell brilliant
In reply to Post #30
I found the wafters to hold a size 8 up perfectly before putting one out, but after 12 hours they sunk extremely quick. Not worth the money.
For anyone who likes perfect wafters have a go at DNA's they are brilliant and you get a ridiculous amount in a pot.
I found the wafters to hold a size 8 up perfectly before putting one out, but after 12 hours they sunk extremely quick. Not worth the money.
For anyone who likes perfect wafters have a go at DNA's they are brilliant and you get a ridiculous amount in a pot.
In reply to Post #32
Aren't dna cork dust wafters? I've always found cork dust wafters take on water to quick and the buoyancy isn't great
Aren't dna cork dust wafters? I've always found cork dust wafters take on water to quick and the buoyancy isn't great
In reply to Post #33
The food bait ones are but the hi vis ones aren't. Find the high vis ones to be balanced exactly the same come morning.
The food bait ones are but the hi vis ones aren't. Find the high vis ones to be balanced exactly the same come morning.
In reply to Post #34
👍🏻
👍🏻
In reply to Post #27
Why has he shut any idea ?
Why has he shut any idea ?
In reply to Post #36
Just seen a post on FB - he's closed for good. Sounds like he's fed up of people catching on his baits and reporting it differently to keep sponsors happy etc, as well as struggling with demand.
Just seen a post on FB - he's closed for good. Sounds like he's fed up of people catching on his baits and reporting it differently to keep sponsors happy etc, as well as struggling with demand.
In reply to Post #37
His statement makes no sense... Complains sponsored anglers dont wonna say they caught fish on his bait and also says he cant keep up with demand and making that much bait is to much for him...
His statement makes no sense... Complains sponsored anglers dont wonna say they caught fish on his bait and also says he cant keep up with demand and making that much bait is to much for him...
In reply to Post #37
with the current situation he's a fool.
throwing away a constant wave of business?
imagine amazon saying ''we're to busy we are closing''
with the current situation he's a fool.
throwing away a constant wave of business?
imagine amazon saying ''we're to busy we are closing''
In reply to Post #38
Its a rant and not a very logical one in the current climate.Take on some staff and keep producing. I've got about 6 pots unused, anyone want to buy them?
Its a rant and not a very logical one in the current climate.Take on some staff and keep producing. I've got about 6 pots unused, anyone want to buy them?
In reply to Post #40
Stick them on EBay they were going for £50 a tub
Stick them on EBay they were going for £50 a tub
In reply to Post #39
Maybe the guy values his time more than the money he earns from it. Cant put a price on that.
Maybe the guy values his time more than the money he earns from it. Cant put a price on that.
In reply to Post #42
From Facebook:
"It is with much regret that I have decided to permanently close the Bait Room and take this opportunity to extend my gratitude to a loyal customer base for your past support.
I have reached a point where I could sell a whole months work in just a few minutes via the website, money and orders were coming in so fast I couldn't keep up with it. Sounds great but after a while it grinds you down, 18 hour days, 7 days a week without a let up... no matter what the price point. Couple that with an industry and high profile anglers that on the whole utterly refuse to give my baits the recognition they deserve, something had to give. I've lost count the number of times my hookbaits have been used to great success by high profile anglers only to see the credit given to another company. So I've pulled the plug.
I am without doubt the very best at what I do, very few come anywhere near. If a larger company wants to utilise my skill and product range, I am certainly up for discussion but that is the only way my bait will be commercially available going forward. My hookbaits are used by many of the biggest companies/names in Carp Fishing but they are never acknowledged. For me this lying on an industrial scale has become intolerable, so we are where we are and the only way I can put a stop to it, is unfortunately by closing.
In essence the industry couldn't even offer me the steam of it's morning piss and I am now I'm offering the same until someone gets their cheque book out. I'm not being rude or trying to insult, just being frank.
Best regards Mitch"
From Facebook:
"It is with much regret that I have decided to permanently close the Bait Room and take this opportunity to extend my gratitude to a loyal customer base for your past support.
I have reached a point where I could sell a whole months work in just a few minutes via the website, money and orders were coming in so fast I couldn't keep up with it. Sounds great but after a while it grinds you down, 18 hour days, 7 days a week without a let up... no matter what the price point. Couple that with an industry and high profile anglers that on the whole utterly refuse to give my baits the recognition they deserve, something had to give. I've lost count the number of times my hookbaits have been used to great success by high profile anglers only to see the credit given to another company. So I've pulled the plug.
I am without doubt the very best at what I do, very few come anywhere near. If a larger company wants to utilise my skill and product range, I am certainly up for discussion but that is the only way my bait will be commercially available going forward. My hookbaits are used by many of the biggest companies/names in Carp Fishing but they are never acknowledged. For me this lying on an industrial scale has become intolerable, so we are where we are and the only way I can put a stop to it, is unfortunately by closing.
In essence the industry couldn't even offer me the steam of it's morning piss and I am now I'm offering the same until someone gets their cheque book out. I'm not being rude or trying to insult, just being frank.
Best regards Mitch"
In reply to Post #41
I've got 6 tubs worth of fizz, thunderberrys and mulberry's I'd happily sell for that much haha
Can't quiet work out the rant, unhappy that people aren't plugging his bait and in the same breath moaning he's too busy? Either way, they are no cork ball pop ups and nothing plenty of other companies arnt doing aswell.
I've got 6 tubs worth of fizz, thunderberrys and mulberry's I'd happily sell for that much haha
Can't quiet work out the rant, unhappy that people aren't plugging his bait and in the same breath moaning he's too busy? Either way, they are no cork ball pop ups and nothing plenty of other companies arnt doing aswell.
In reply to Post #43
F**k me that is some statement
I am without doubt the very best at what I do, very few come anywhere near.
F**k me that is some statement
I am without doubt the very best at what I do, very few come anywhere near.
In reply to Post #45
Hahaha he certainly isn't happy!!
Bit of a mixed statement there in my eyes, he sells out asap but wants the acknowledgement of his creations.
Well he's doing something right to get the sales, maybe that isn't enough for him.
Very good baits but there is plenty of other options out there
Hahaha he certainly isn't happy!!
Bit of a mixed statement there in my eyes, he sells out asap but wants the acknowledgement of his creations.
Well he's doing something right to get the sales, maybe that isn't enough for him.
Very good baits but there is plenty of other options out there
In reply to Post #45
Ha ha that made me laugh too...sure that would lead to a very interesting conversation with the self proclaimed master T-Carper if he found out!
He's made himself look like the end of a bell there I reckon
Ha ha that made me laugh too...sure that would lead to a very interesting conversation with the self proclaimed master T-Carper if he found out!
He's made himself look like the end of a bell there I reckon
In reply to Post #47
hi all.
I've not posted on here for a long time but having read Mitch's post I've got to agree with some of it.
When I was running UB Baits I had several high profile anglers using my baits and catching a lot of fish on them, a few weeks later you would see in print in a big, well known carp magazine "here's XXXXXXX with a 28lb common caught live in session for us on sticky baits pop ups" - because they were a sticky bait angler. I even talked this through on the phone with one of them at the time and he said "sorry mate i've no choice, I can't tell the truth or i'ld lose my deal".
That's modern carp fishing I am afraid. It is extremely frustrating for the person making the hookbaits - sometimes it's not about the money, it's just about a bit of integrity. And would it really hurt sticky baits, or any other bait company, for the write up to have read "and here's XXXX with a 28lb common caught on a UB Baits Ting tong corkball over a bad of Sticky Baits manilla" - not at all.
There's so little integrity left in carp fishing you honestly can't trust a word of what's printed now I am afraid.
Matt
hi all.
I've not posted on here for a long time but having read Mitch's post I've got to agree with some of it.
When I was running UB Baits I had several high profile anglers using my baits and catching a lot of fish on them, a few weeks later you would see in print in a big, well known carp magazine "here's XXXXXXX with a 28lb common caught live in session for us on sticky baits pop ups" - because they were a sticky bait angler. I even talked this through on the phone with one of them at the time and he said "sorry mate i've no choice, I can't tell the truth or i'ld lose my deal".
That's modern carp fishing I am afraid. It is extremely frustrating for the person making the hookbaits - sometimes it's not about the money, it's just about a bit of integrity. And would it really hurt sticky baits, or any other bait company, for the write up to have read "and here's XXXX with a 28lb common caught on a UB Baits Ting tong corkball over a bad of Sticky Baits manilla" - not at all.
There's so little integrity left in carp fishing you honestly can't trust a word of what's printed now I am afraid.
Matt
In reply to Post #48
Very true me Matt, hope you are well mate.
I think the only honest capture on a different hookbait to freebies from memory, was when Phil Harper caught the Snake pit common on a Rod hutchinson protein mix pop up, over a bed over Savay seed mix freebies.
Think there was a Hoo ha about that capture TBH.
Some People are so desperate that they will sell their soul to a brand for a deal Even if it ain't all that.
Very true me Matt, hope you are well mate.
I think the only honest capture on a different hookbait to freebies from memory, was when Phil Harper caught the Snake pit common on a Rod hutchinson protein mix pop up, over a bed over Savay seed mix freebies.
Think there was a Hoo ha about that capture TBH.
Some People are so desperate that they will sell their soul to a brand for a deal
Even if it ain't all that.
In reply to Post #43
So apparently he is incapable of training a couple of youngsters to knock up bait alongside him. He may be the world's best bait maker but he's the world's worst businessman. I wish him luck in his next venture. With his business acumen he's going to need it.
So apparently he is incapable of training a couple of youngsters to knock up bait alongside him. He may be the world's best bait maker but he's the world's worst businessman. I wish him luck in his next venture. With his business acumen he's going to need it.
In reply to Post #50
Why the nastiness? If he don't want to make and sell bait any more for whatever reasons, why should it bother you?
Why the nastiness? If he don't want to make and sell bait any more for whatever reasons, why should it bother you?
In reply to Post #51
scaley & dark
thanks mate - yes very well. Appreciate you asking.
selling your soul - that's exactly it, nail on head!
all the best
Matt
scaley & dark
thanks mate - yes very well. Appreciate you asking.
selling your soul - that's exactly it, nail on head!
all the best
Matt
In reply to Post #51
Not being nasty, and couldn't care less if he makes bait or not. Just don't moan about being successful as a reason to close a business. If it's genuinely about the morality of captures being misrepresented then that's his choice. Personally I'd carry on and laugh all the way to the bank.
Not being nasty, and couldn't care less if he makes bait or not. Just don't moan about being successful as a reason to close a business. If it's genuinely about the morality of captures being misrepresented then that's his choice. Personally I'd carry on and laugh all the way to the bank.
In reply to Post #53
You think the angling industry is bad you should see the MSM media they are the worst at lying and pretending something is something else.
You think the angling industry is bad you should see the MSM media they are the worst at lying and pretending something is something else.
In reply to Post #52
That's good Matt
Take it easy, and get some fishing in.
That's good Matt
Take it easy, and get some fishing in.
In reply to Post #50
I think you will find that there is mental fragility in play here.
I think you will find that there is mental fragility in play here.
In reply to Post #55
On the canal tonight mate fingers crossed
On the canal tonight mate fingers crossed
In reply to Post #57
The whole issue of people catching a fish on one bait and reporting it as another has been going on for years, and always will. The snake pit common was a good example mentioned earlier in this thread. I dread to think of how many fish have been caught on tiger nuts and then reported as X bait over the years...it used to happen on Yateley CP lake all the time for example.
The way I see it is this, bait rollers have two options. Either put up with it, keep supplying these people with bait and keep taking their money (as it is business after all) OR they can get precious about it any throw their toys out of the pram. 'Buu bbuutt it was caught on my bait, not what he reported...' Maybe I'm caring less and less as I mature but I couldnt give a rats backside what such and such fish was caught on nowadays
The whole issue of people catching a fish on one bait and reporting it as another has been going on for years, and always will. The snake pit common was a good example mentioned earlier in this thread. I dread to think of how many fish have been caught on tiger nuts and then reported as X bait over the years...it used to happen on Yateley CP lake all the time for example.
The way I see it is this, bait rollers have two options. Either put up with it, keep supplying these people with bait and keep taking their money (as it is business after all) OR they can get precious about it any throw their toys out of the pram. 'Buu bbuutt it was caught on my bait, not what he reported...' Maybe I'm caring less and less as I mature but I couldnt give a rats backside what such and such fish was caught on nowadays
In reply to Post #58
Never taken much notice of catch reports tbh. Word of mouth from real anglers any day over some **** in a hat.
Never taken much notice of catch reports tbh. Word of mouth from real anglers any day over some **** in a hat.
30 quid for a tub of pop ups, I'd be up all night on red bull!
In reply to Post #1
Baitroom posted on FB today that it is no more.....
Baitroom posted on FB today that it is no more.....
In reply to Post #61
why dont you read the thread
why dont you read the thread
In reply to Post #62
Why don't you try to be more pleasant?
Why don't you try to be more pleasant?
In reply to Post #58
As said, it's been happening for years, sad really when it becomes so tribal.
I recall a couple of years ago hearing how virtually every capture from Dinton was on a zig during the first half of the year....but it did t say that in the catch reports!
As said, it's been happening for years, sad really when it becomes so tribal.
I recall a couple of years ago hearing how virtually every capture from Dinton was on a zig during the first half of the year....but it did t say that in the catch reports!
In reply to Post #47
Mitch's baits absolutely outfished Marks baits by a significant margin for several of us that have used both, to the point where we binned the spec gear!
In truth, success is not selling shed loads of anything, but managing to produce, cost and time effectively, what you sell, lock your doors for 3 days a week and spend time with family, fishing, whatever. It's the time that didn't work out sadly for Mitch by the sound of it which in this country is not uncommon at all, many of us run our own little businesses and take far too little time out for living, something I've been drawn into for many years but stepped back 4 years ago and turned things around to a better balance, took until covid kicked in to get there mind..
Mitch's baits absolutely outfished Marks baits by a significant margin for several of us that have used both, to the point where we binned the spec gear!
In truth, success is not selling shed loads of anything, but managing to produce, cost and time effectively, what you sell, lock your doors for 3 days a week and spend time with family, fishing, whatever. It's the time that didn't work out sadly for Mitch by the sound of it which in this country is not uncommon at all, many of us run our own little businesses and take far too little time out for living, something I've been drawn into for many years but stepped back 4 years ago and turned things around to a better balance, took until covid kicked in to get there mind..
In reply to Post #65
That's not my experience, I spent a small fortune on baits from Mitch, Mark and Matt
Only Mark has had repeat orders
That's not my experience, I spent a small fortune on baits from Mitch, Mark and Matt
Only Mark has had repeat orders
In reply to Post #50
Imagine if the likes of Apple and Microsoft had packed up because they were too busy, even if they charged ridiculously elevated prices?
Yes, I get the 'integrity' bit, but at the end of the day, it's business. He's able to sell out of product in a day.. What's the problem in that? In fact it's a scenario most businesses would dream of. He just needs to manage his website correctly, spend two weeks a month manufacturing, a week or so posting, and a week off with the family.
Or the alternative scenario is that he's run out of old Hutchy flavours and can't source them anymore, except at crazy ebay prices....
Imagine if the likes of Apple and Microsoft had packed up because they were too busy, even if they charged ridiculously elevated prices?
Yes, I get the 'integrity' bit, but at the end of the day, it's business. He's able to sell out of product in a day.. What's the problem in that? In fact it's a scenario most businesses would dream of. He just needs to manage his website correctly, spend two weeks a month manufacturing, a week or so posting, and a week off with the family.
Or the alternative scenario is that he's run out of old Hutchy flavours and can't source them anymore, except at crazy ebay prices....
In reply to Post #67
Or the alternative scenario is that he's run out of old Hutchy flavours and can't source them anymore, except at crazy ebay prices....
Can see a few hookbait makers in the U.K. and Europe shutting up shop, when selling their top sellers / the old skool classics become financially not viable to manufacture anymore.
I mean a glass bottle of Mulberry florentine went for £420.00 on the bay recently
Or the alternative scenario is that he's run out of old Hutchy flavours and can't source them anymore, except at crazy ebay prices....
Can see a few hookbait makers in the U.K. and Europe shutting up shop, when selling their top sellers / the old skool classics become financially not viable to manufacture anymore.
I mean a glass bottle of Mulberry florentine went for £420.00 on the bay recently
In reply to Post #48
And that's why the bait room closed... It wasnt about the money...the guy had plenty of that before he started making bait.. he got fed up with high profile sponsored anglers using his bait and then declaring it on social media that they caught it on the latest bait from mainline, nash or sticky.. Yes it happens all the time and will it go away no.. do i think £30 for a pot of hookbaits is pricey...yes but in a world where you can pay £500 for a sleep system, £1300 for a set of rods or £2k for a season ticket somewhere.. If paying £30 for a pot of hookbaits caught you more fish as a result and you were confident in that being the difference then why not..at the end of the day. if the carp wont open its mouth to eat it all the gear on the bank or the fact you've paid £2k for said season ticket is completely irrelevant..
And just for clarity they are in my opinion the best hookbaits I've used...just a good job i bought a load before the prices went through the roof
And that's why the bait room closed... It wasnt about the money...the guy had plenty of that before he started making bait.. he got fed up with high profile sponsored anglers using his bait and then declaring it on social media that they caught it on the latest bait from mainline, nash or sticky.. Yes it happens all the time and will it go away no.. do i think £30 for a pot of hookbaits is pricey...yes but in a world where you can pay £500 for a sleep system, £1300 for a set of rods or £2k for a season ticket somewhere.. If paying £30 for a pot of hookbaits caught you more fish as a result and you were confident in that being the difference then why not..at the end of the day. if the carp wont open its mouth to eat it all the gear on the bank or the fact you've paid £2k for said season ticket is completely irrelevant..
And just for clarity they are in my opinion the best hookbaits I've used...just a good job i bought a load before the prices went through the roof
In reply to Post #70
Why did he continue to sell them to the big names then??
Why did he continue to sell them to the big names then??
In reply to Post #71
Probably word of mouth just keeps the orders coming in. Names or no names. Results in ££
Probably word of mouth just keeps the orders coming in. Names or no names. Results in ££
In reply to Post #70
Glad I cashed in & sold all of mine at a massively inflated price
Glad I cashed in & sold all of mine at a massively inflated price
In reply to Post #73
So they can't have been amazing, If they outfished anything on the market I'd have kept them regardless
So they can't have been amazing, If they outfished anything on the market I'd have kept them regardless
In reply to Post #70
i agree with you i was a bait room customer for quite q few years,fantastic baits,put plenty of smiles on my face,more than expensive rods,reels ect. keeping mine anyway. oh and my mates got 154 pots left.
i agree with you i was a bait room customer for quite q few years,fantastic baits,put plenty of smiles on my face,more than expensive rods,reels ect. keeping mine anyway. oh and my mates got 154 pots left.
If he is selling up what sort of price do you think he will be wanting for a company that did so well
In reply to Post #75
154 pots! Considering they are selling for between circa £40 and £130 per pot that is a very fine investment should your mate sell ..
In contrast I've been trying to re-home a pot of the Specialised Garlic corks for over a year now but no takers or even enquiries at half retail price, a bait that some rate highly too (not me though obvs). I guess that true value of any product is realised when it becomes unavailable from the suppliers.
154 pots! Considering they are selling for between circa £40 and £130 per pot that is a very fine investment should your mate sell ..In contrast I've been trying to re-home a pot of the Specialised Garlic corks for over a year now but no takers or even enquiries at half retail price, a bait that some rate highly too (not me though obvs). I guess that true value of any product is realised when it becomes unavailable from the suppliers.
In reply to Post #77
or a big stock of old bait if they start to trade again
or a big stock of old bait if they start to trade again
In reply to Post #78
Maybe!
Maybe!
In reply to Post #77
il give you a full pot of them mate not had a sniff on em. lol
il give you a full pot of them mate not had a sniff on em. lol
He claims to be 'the very best at what I do ...'
Yep, he may have knocked out some good gear but nobody knows everything and nobody has all the answers, there is no magic formula that catches all fish. The fella was just making bait to make money.
I suspect any collaboration with a larger company would turn into a car crash sooner rather than later with the fella then slagging of whoever took a chance on him.
Sorry if your a fanboy but reading what he's written on the site does not paint a great picture. He may have been burnt a few too many times by said name anglers but then why keep on suppliying them and then throw all the toys out the pram and throw the towel in?.... I guess what he's written isn't the full story..... .
Yep, he may have knocked out some good gear but nobody knows everything and nobody has all the answers, there is no magic formula that catches all fish. The fella was just making bait to make money.
I suspect any collaboration with a larger company would turn into a car crash sooner rather than later with the fella then slagging of whoever took a chance on him.
Sorry if your a fanboy but reading what he's written on the site does not paint a great picture. He may have been burnt a few too many times by said name anglers but then why keep on suppliying them and then throw all the toys out the pram and throw the towel in?.... I guess what he's written isn't the full story..... .
In reply to Post #81
The quoted posts were lifted from his social media, not posts on here.
The quoted posts were lifted from his social media, not posts on here.
His reasons are all BS to me.
If he was making good money would he really be bothered about the recognition from the so called top anglers.
Recognition does not make one rich, profits do.
If he was making good money would he really be bothered about the recognition from the so called top anglers.
Recognition does not make one rich, profits do.
I kinda think the same as few others, no matter how good the bait is he is selling, if he is selling out in minutes then why does it matter if the “known” anglers are telling people they are using his bait? I would understand if he was struggling to sell but he is moaning about the amount of business he is getting now, it would just get worse for him.
He wouldn't make no more money or anything from it so I just don't Understand it all tbh think it's a bit of a cope out, I'm not disputing the quality of the bait just the reasons behind doing what he has done
He wouldn't make no more money or anything from it so I just don't Understand it all tbh think it's a bit of a cope out, I'm not disputing the quality of the bait just the reasons behind doing what he has done
Maybe he should have gone on Dragons Den with Hovis.
In reply to Post #84
What a bizarre read, I've never heard of him or the company, I suspect it isn't closing for the reasons that is given.
What a bizarre read, I've never heard of him or the company, I suspect it isn't closing for the reasons that is given.
I've heard Jeff Bezos is closing down his multi billion dollar Amazon company because, whilst he's earning 10's of billions of dollars every year. He's not happy that people are saying they bought their stuff off eBay
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