Just expanding on a bankside chat with a angler a few weeks back who said he generally considered Common Carp to fight a much more prolonged fight than Mirrors or Leathers. In my experience I've found not a lot of difference... any thoughts?
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Despite the mirrors being double the average size of the commons on my local lake, I know instantly when I've hooked one. The mirrors tend to plod and use their bulk to resist whereas the commons seem hell bent on reaching the other side of the lake!
Despite the mirrors being double the average size of the commons on my local lake, I know instantly when I've hooked one. The mirrors tend to plod and use their bulk to resist whereas the commons seem hell bent on reaching the other side of the lake!
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Wouldn't that make it due to weight? The smaller ones fight harder?
I've never noticed much difference tbh
Wouldn't that make it due to weight? The smaller ones fight harder?
I've never noticed much difference tbh
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It's all in the tail , Ken crows fish with massive tails fight like Trojans
It's all in the tail , Ken crows fish with massive tails fight like Trojans
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I caught a fan tail koi once. Butterfly koi in the garden centres I believe they are called.
Put up a right scrap that.
I caught a fan tail koi once. Butterfly koi in the garden centres I believe they are called.
Put up a right scrap that.
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American commons.........they pull hard
American commons.........they pull hard
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I've never noticed a difference between commons and mirrors. Generally I feel they both put up less of a fight pound for pound as they get larger. Only had a few grass carp but they have all fought far harder than regular carp.
I've never noticed a difference between commons and mirrors. Generally I feel they both put up less of a fight pound for pound as they get larger. Only had a few grass carp but they have all fought far harder than regular carp.
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In my experience the hardest fighting carp pound for pound are the old 'wildies' i.e. long thin commons. Not many left now though.
In my experience the hardest fighting carp pound for pound are the old 'wildies' i.e. long thin commons. Not many left now though.
Grass carp
I know loads who have been slapped around by one of those lol
I know loads who have been slapped around by one of those lol
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Interesting point, Not a leviathan by any stretch but I've found that 20 or so pounders have lots of energy and can give a great scrap.
Interesting point, Not a leviathan by any stretch but I've found that 20 or so pounders have lots of energy and can give a great scrap.
Not a strain of carp, but I find the spawned out torpedo shaped carp say 15 to 25 lbs to really put up a scrap. The big fat ones just use their weight and plod about.
There is a lake local to me with some what I call long commons. Pound for pound they fight harder I think.
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A lot of the very wild, uncaught, 20s and 30s we catch in our big US waters pull much, much harder than the equivalent French fish I catch.
Probably because they do not have big guts, and swim about a lot, keeping them well muscled?
The strain, of course, dates back to euro imports from 1860 ish, so no Royals and Dink's for us, sadly.
A lot of the very wild, uncaught, 20s and 30s we catch in our big US waters pull much, much harder than the equivalent French fish I catch.
Probably because they do not have big guts, and swim about a lot, keeping them well muscled?
The strain, of course, dates back to euro imports from 1860 ish, so no Royals and Dink's for us, sadly.
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Smaller commons I have found go like rockets, all over the place as fast as they can, generally found the bigger versions fight as hard as each other, had mammoth fights off them both lol, a lot depends on the time of the year, oxygen levels, fish condition etc water depths
Smaller commons I have found go like rockets, all over the place as fast as they can, generally found the bigger versions fight as hard as each other, had mammoth fights off them both lol, a lot depends on the time of the year, oxygen levels, fish condition etc water depths
Without question, true wild carp fight the hardest.
I get invited to fish a small well hidden farm pond every so often, and have done for many years. I would never miss an invite because it's so great there. Dark because of the dense tree line.
The carp in there, are slim lengthy common looking but, have a blue tint to them.
They fight incredibly, and pull like a barbel.
Commons, mirrors and leathers, I've never noticed a difference, some battle some don't
Always found shallow water fish seem to fight harder.
I get invited to fish a small well hidden farm pond every so often, and have done for many years. I would never miss an invite because it's so great there. Dark because of the dense tree line.
The carp in there, are slim lengthy common looking but, have a blue tint to them.
They fight incredibly, and pull like a barbel.
Commons, mirrors and leathers, I've never noticed a difference, some battle some don't
Always found shallow water fish seem to fight harder.
Definitely wildies if there is any still about, used to catch the on an estate lake years ago and you knew from the screaming take that you was attached to one
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I think a lot depends on gear being used and the water your fishing, deeper lakes they tend to plod more in the deeper water whereas shallow lakes they run more due to lack of depth or at least it feels that way.
For me of the carp over here ghosties fight the hardest pound for pound, but give me a 30lb + tope on a light uptider any day
I think a lot depends on gear being used and the water your fishing, deeper lakes they tend to plod more in the deeper water whereas shallow lakes they run more due to lack of depth or at least it feels that way.
For me of the carp over here ghosties fight the hardest pound for pound, but give me a 30lb + tope on a light uptider any day
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Or a 30lb toped on a carp rod in Aberdovey you know your hooked up
Or a 30lb toped on a carp rod in Aberdovey you know your hooked up
Ghost carp have always fought pretty hard, when I have hooked them.
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