Just been watching Adam penning on you tube, he was talking about the pressure he was getting to leave the lake after catching most of the A-team, red card txt etc he wanted to carry on as he's enjoying the lake,
Should people be pressured off the lake if they still like fishing it or is it just being selfish? His compromise was if he started getting recaptures
Should it be up to the individual or of members?
Should people be pressured off the lake if they still like fishing it or is it just being selfish? His compromise was if he started getting recaptures
Should it be up to the individual or of members?
In reply to Post #1
Upto the individual, nobody else's business.
Upto the individual, nobody else's business.
In reply to Post #1
His ticket cost the same as everybody else's, so **** um. It's up to him.
Does it work the other way, do all the members ask another member to leave if he doesn't catch his fair share, so he's not taking up a swim that a more successful angler could use.
Petty jealousy I think and sadly another reason why it's just best not to tell anyone you've caught anything in this day and age.
His ticket cost the same as everybody else's, so **** um. It's up to him.
Does it work the other way, do all the members ask another member to leave if he doesn't catch his fair share, so he's not taking up a swim that a more successful angler could use.
Petty jealousy I think and sadly another reason why it's just best not to tell anyone you've caught anything in this day and age.
In reply to Post #3
100% this.
100% this.
In reply to Post #1
Take this scenario:
An angler fishes his local lake, because it is local, because it suits his lifestyle. He may not have the money to fish elsewhere.
He enjoys his fishing, he does not have to travel far.
He has caught every fish in there, but should he leave because of having caught them all?
It is entirely down to the angler concerned whether they choose to leave or stay.
Take this scenario:
An angler fishes his local lake, because it is local, because it suits his lifestyle. He may not have the money to fish elsewhere.
He enjoys his fishing, he does not have to travel far.
He has caught every fish in there, but should he leave because of having caught them all?
It is entirely down to the angler concerned whether they choose to leave or stay.
I would also like to point out that if you happen to see me on the bank and I tell you I've caught nothing, it's because I've actually caught nothing. I never do!!
In reply to Post #1
When you have fallen out of love with the place
When you have fallen out of love with the place
In reply to Post #1
I would leave when I was ready to leave.What video is it?
I would leave when I was ready to leave.What video is it?
I personally only fish for a max of 3-4 hours at a time, so understandably don't want to lose too much time travelling. This leaves me a fairly limited number of lakes to fish. Ive fished these lakes on and off for 25 years, have i caught all the fish, its possible, do i still enjoy fishing them? Very much so. Am i likely to move off of them any time soon? Its unlikely. I still get the excitement when i find feeding fish so im happy.
On the other side of the coin i joined a syndicate after a very long wait and only fished it the one season, i caught 68 of the approx 120 fish, on top of that i had recaptures on some of the 30s up to 7 times, despite not having all the gooduns i left as the place was to predictable and easy and i never felt any sense of achievement.
It can only be for the individual to decide what they enjoy about fishing a particular lake and if and when it is time to move on. Fishing isnt and shouldnt in my eyes be results driven.
On the other side of the coin i joined a syndicate after a very long wait and only fished it the one season, i caught 68 of the approx 120 fish, on top of that i had recaptures on some of the 30s up to 7 times, despite not having all the gooduns i left as the place was to predictable and easy and i never felt any sense of achievement.
It can only be for the individual to decide what they enjoy about fishing a particular lake and if and when it is time to move on. Fishing isnt and shouldnt in my eyes be results driven.
In reply to Post #1
I can't believe I'm reading that, the mind boggles
I can't believe I'm reading that, the mind boggles
When it becomes popular and swim choice an issue is when I leave.
He paid to fish like everyone else, sounds like others on the lake need to grow a pair and look at why they're not catching rather than bitching and moaning
based on what AP says he has every right to fish it as long as he wants
there's often two sides to every story though
there's often two sides to every story though
Green Eyed Monster syndrome rearing its head again...His Money...His ticket...His duration on there-Not theirs to stipulate. Flip the situation around what if he was either blanking or it was a 'local' catching the A team..what then ?
In reply to Post #14
As others have already said. He pays the same money as everyone else and has the same opportunities as everyone else. I could understand it if he was on there seven days a week
Personally I would want him on the lake to learn from him x he must be doing either something no one else is doing or a very good angler - either way would certainly want to pick his brains
Only he should decide when it's time for him to move on. How sad some carp anglers are today. If he leaves do they think they will then catch those fish
He can't be doing it for the publicity because people don't want to see photos of the same angler catching the same fish all the time
As others have already said. He pays the same money as everyone else and has the same opportunities as everyone else. I could understand it if he was on there seven days a week
Personally I would want him on the lake to learn from him x he must be doing either something no one else is doing or a very good angler - either way would certainly want to pick his brains
Only he should decide when it's time for him to move on. How sad some carp anglers are today. If he leaves do they think they will then catch those fish
He can't be doing it for the publicity because people don't want to see photos of the same angler catching the same fish all the time
In reply to Post #8
I couldn't either, it was sticky baits series 4 chapter 3 reflections
I couldn't either, it was sticky baits series 4 chapter 3 reflections
In reply to Post #14
100 % correct just because your known within the fishing fraternity what difference should it make
100 % correct just because your known within the fishing fraternity what difference should it make
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In reply to Post #15
Agree totally 👍👍
I was very lucky enough to meet him of pit 3 at frimley, dread to think how many years ago, it was before the commons topped 40, seemed down to earth and a nice chap
It just surprised me I suppose of that attitude of main A team and you should be off..
like others for me it's the water, fish and when I feel it's time to move ok
Agree totally 👍👍
I was very lucky enough to meet him of pit 3 at frimley, dread to think how many years ago, it was before the commons topped 40, seemed down to earth and a nice chap
It just surprised me I suppose of that attitude of main A team and you should be off..
like others for me it's the water, fish and when I feel it's time to move ok
It is a load of rubbish. The idea that by continuing on a lake you are taking someone else's chance of catching certain fish is cloud cuckoo land. I assume there would be no issue if he fished it for 20 years but caught sod all?
If you are good enough you catch the A-team, doesnt make a blind but of difference who else fishes the same lake or how many times they catch.
Leave the lake so other people get a chance to catch???? At my last lake everyone could have left and I wouldn't have caught the 50!
If you are good enough you catch the A-team, doesnt make a blind but of difference who else fishes the same lake or how many times they catch.
Leave the lake so other people get a chance to catch???? At my last lake everyone could have left and I wouldn't have caught the 50!
I leave a lake when I've run out of food or need a poo
In reply to Post #22
Amateur, eat everyone else's food and poo in their bat bucket.
Amateur, eat everyone else's food and poo in their bat bucket.
In reply to Post #23
That's where I've been going wrong.
That's where I've been going wrong.
In reply to Post #24
Over the last few decades I have been to plenty of waters around the U.K. and now have to travel further and further to find good ones. I never set any figures or a cut off point when I will leave but two things drive me onto the next venue. Firstly, catching a target fish or several target fish, but normally the drive to go elsewhere and catch another carp from a lake I don't know!The fun of angling for me personally is learning the new lake and going in blind as such to work it all out. Some lakes it's all over within months and others can take a year or two. But I would never leave because it suited someone else. I have seen anglers stay on certain lakes for 10 years catching the biggest fish 14 times and part of me feels like it's an anticlimax for that angler to keep catching the same fish when others need to catch it but as others have said before, if you love the lake and you pay your money then crack on and enjoy it! The older I get the less I care about chasing very big carp from rat races where swims are a lottery. I need peace now and some nice fish and generally find solace in the winter! Move on when you are ready
Over the last few decades I have been to plenty of waters around the U.K. and now have to travel further and further to find good ones. I never set any figures or a cut off point when I will leave but two things drive me onto the next venue. Firstly, catching a target fish or several target fish, but normally the drive to go elsewhere and catch another carp from a lake I don't know!The fun of angling for me personally is learning the new lake and going in blind as such to work it all out. Some lakes it's all over within months and others can take a year or two. But I would never leave because it suited someone else. I have seen anglers stay on certain lakes for 10 years catching the biggest fish 14 times and part of me feels like it's an anticlimax for that angler to keep catching the same fish when others need to catch it but as others have said before, if you love the lake and you pay your money then crack on and enjoy it! The older I get the less I care about chasing very big carp from rat races where swims are a lottery. I need peace now and some nice fish and generally find solace in the winter! Move on when you are ready
In reply to Post #1
A few points 1/ There is no ticket price 2/ He is poaching the lake 3/ He has put the lake on the map
I would imagine the local anglers aren't happy as the lake is now known to all. If you know it's pretty easy to work out.
A few points 1/ There is no ticket price 2/ He is poaching the lake 3/ He has put the lake on the map
I would imagine the local anglers aren't happy as the lake is now known to all. If you know it's pretty easy to work out.
In reply to Post #26
I don't understand how you can say this. Please explain?
I don't understand how you can say this. Please explain?
In reply to Post #26
That's about spot on....but he is not the only ‘hero' who has blown this place.
That's about spot on....but he is not the only ‘hero' who has blown this place.
When should you leave a water
When you have had enough?
I've fished some waters local to me on and off most of my life, I fish them for a reason, I still like them otherwise I wouldn't, simple in it
All down to the anglers personal choice, nothing to do with anybody else
When you have had enough?
I've fished some waters local to me on and off most of my life, I fish them for a reason, I still like them otherwise I wouldn't, simple in it
All down to the anglers personal choice, nothing to do with anybody else
In reply to Post #26
I knew there was a reason I stopped following what big name anglers are doing.
I only really care for my own fishing, not what others are doing. We have made carp fishing a blooming circus.
I bet the local anglers who were under the radar and 'sneaking' in and out didn't advertise themselves.
I knew there was a reason I stopped following what big name anglers are doing.
I only really care for my own fishing, not what others are doing. We have made carp fishing a blooming circus.
I bet the local anglers who were under the radar and 'sneaking' in and out didn't advertise themselves.
When the bloke in the bivvy across from you starts playing robbie Williams songs through the night.... 
In reply to Post #31
Or Cliff Richard
Or Cliff Richard
In reply to Post #27
The lake is open to all he's not paying to fish there. It's no fishing ? What else is there to understand?
The lake is open to all he's not paying to fish there. It's no fishing ? What else is there to understand?
In reply to Post #33
Sorry the impression I got was that he was fishing a syndicate lake that he was paying for. No sympathy for anyone poaching a lake.
Sorry the impression I got was that he was fishing a syndicate lake that he was paying for. No sympathy for anyone poaching a lake.
In reply to Post #26
No publicity is often the best policy. Like fight club.
In respect of the locals.
Some things are best left under the radar
More so when you are really enjoying the lake, because once the cat is out of the bag, the circus 🎪 arrives and f**ks it all up
No publicity is often the best policy. Like fight club.
In respect of the locals.
Some things are best left under the radar
More so when you are really enjoying the lake, because once the cat is out of the bag, the circus 🎪 arrives and f**ks it all up
When tazi turns up with his spam lorry?
In reply to Post #33
Was not aware of this.
Now lost a lot a of respect for the man
Might end up with everyone being banned now
Was not aware of this.
Now lost a lot a of respect for the man
Might end up with everyone being banned now
In reply to Post #37
Two sides to every story, cough, sorry.... article.
If this is factual and correct, you can understand why he is getting grief to leave or be
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Two sides to every story, cough, sorry.... article.
If this is factual and correct, you can understand why he is getting grief to leave or be
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I wasn't aware of that as he refers to it as a club lake. However I have seen it in a couple of Nigel sharp articles about yately back in the day of him receiving a red card. I'm all for angling etiquette but that only goes so far. Like a lot of you guys I think if your paying for your ticket it's nobodies buisness if you move on, and they would get that reply if they tried to pressure me
Ah..in light of the 'poaching an under the radar' location comments I cant defend the bloke now.
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In reply to Post #26
Fair enough I wasn't aware of those points but (there's always a but) he's not the first name angler to guest on a non fishing water either in the uk or abroad, is it still correct to tell someone it's time up?
Fair enough I wasn't aware of those points but (there's always a but) he's not the first name angler to guest on a non fishing water either in the uk or abroad, is it still correct to tell someone it's time up?
In reply to Post #40
Ok but that makes it no difference as all the others shouldn't be on there. I get what you're saying as guesting puts him down in my estimation but still doesnt give anyone the right to try and force people off a lake.
Ok but that makes it no difference as all the others shouldn't be on there. I get what you're saying as guesting puts him down in my estimation but still doesnt give anyone the right to try and force people off a lake.
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