Is that a thing?
I have no idea on centrepins and my Dad wants one for Xmas, obviously he won't be expecting a top end reel but I don't want to get him a crock of ****. I don't mind buying second hand but eBay is a minefield when I don't know what I'm looking at.
Will probably only be used for trotting down the Colne, any recommendations up to £50 please and thank you.
I have no idea on centrepins and my Dad wants one for Xmas, obviously he won't be expecting a top end reel but I don't want to get him a crock of ****. I don't mind buying second hand but eBay is a minefield when I don't know what I'm looking at.
Will probably only be used for trotting down the Colne, any recommendations up to £50 please and thank you.
In reply to Post #1
Grice & Young Avon Supreme. Perfect old skool pin that eont break the bank.
Grice & Young Avon Supreme. Perfect old skool pin that eont break the bank.
There are a few so called cheaper models
Ikoniz
Cyprinus
Marco cortesi...or maybe look at a secondhand truepin,is one with no bearings,don't be put off by that, maybe Trudex,Rapidex or a nice okuma pin,okuma make fantastc centrepins...I have owned several Ltd edition Gary Mills pins,and for example much prefer the Okumas..
If it was me I'd go for a lovely used truepin,with a bit of history,maybe an original box etc,you see a few on eBay..
Ikoniz
Cyprinus
Marco cortesi...or maybe look at a secondhand truepin,is one with no bearings,don't be put off by that, maybe Trudex,Rapidex or a nice okuma pin,okuma make fantastc centrepins...I have owned several Ltd edition Gary Mills pins,and for example much prefer the Okumas..
If it was me I'd go for a lovely used truepin,with a bit of history,maybe an original box etc,you see a few on eBay..
Angling direct do a couple of stillwater pins, these were formerly the Marco cortesi pins that dragon carp sold. A few had problems with the screw coming undone on the original one so I'd look at the Severn version which copies the faceplate and screw design of the okuma Sheffield. I had a matt Hayes aerial version that was nice, fine mono can get behind the spool with these though so I'd advise using braid and keeping some rigs on pole winders
The okuma reels are much better quality if you can find an aventa pro or Sheffield for a decent price. I doubt I'd let mine go for £50 though so I don't think you'd find one in budget
I prefer a true pin for trotting, but I can't really help with old versions you'll find on ebay.
The okuma reels are much better quality if you can find an aventa pro or Sheffield for a decent price. I doubt I'd let mine go for £50 though so I don't think you'd find one in budget
I prefer a true pin for trotting, but I can't really help with old versions you'll find on ebay.
In reply to Post #4
The Okuma centerpins are superb ,the Sheffield will cost around £130 and they do a slightly cheaper one around the £80 mark,they are both quality reels,I'd stay away from the TFG one or any around the £40 mark,the okuma will last a long time
The Okuma centerpins are superb ,the Sheffield will cost around £130 and they do a slightly cheaper one around the £80 mark,they are both quality reels,I'd stay away from the TFG one or any around the £40 mark,the okuma will last a long time
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Do they still do the cheaper ones? Last time I looked used prices on the aventa pro were more than £80 quid
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Do they still do the cheaper ones? Last time I looked used prices on the aventa pro were more than £80 quid
In reply to Post #1
Plenty of good second hand pins out there in your budget
Plenty of good second hand pins out there in your budget
Thanks for the replies so far.
Bringing this back to life as it's on my 'bucket list' to get a pin to try it, hope that's o.k SA, thought it good to keep in the same place for reference.
I've had a good look around, like the look of the Okuma Sheffield or Raw & the JW Young Superlight,
If you were given a choice what would you choose based on how it performs?
Is the anodising any good?
If given a choice of reel depths 1"+, 1", 0.75 what would you choose? I note the JW is 100 yards of 2-8lb whereas the sheffied is 275/8lb.
Does the extra weight of the line/spool inhibit the spin of the reel.
I can't see many times I'd be fishing +50 yards and as for 275 yards can't see that ever being needed on a river but I'm open to opinions.
I've had a good look around, like the look of the Okuma Sheffield or Raw & the JW Young Superlight,
If you were given a choice what would you choose based on how it performs?
Is the anodising any good?
If given a choice of reel depths 1"+, 1", 0.75 what would you choose? I note the JW is 100 yards of 2-8lb whereas the sheffied is 275/8lb.
Does the extra weight of the line/spool inhibit the spin of the reel.
I can't see many times I'd be fishing +50 yards and as for 275 yards can't see that ever being needed on a river but I'm open to opinions.
In reply to Post #9
I know loads of people who swear by the okuma the wife has one of these herself.
I have a limited edition youngs which is a thing of beauty which I got from the wife and kids for Xmas about 10 or so years ago I think but it could be longer lol
Depending on its use
Some people say for trotting the line should come of the top
And you shouldn't have a lot of line on it so to stop bedding in
I find 100m one shot spool is about right for me
And the spool is 1”
First pin I ever owned was a 4” Leeds centrepin in the 80's
God knows what happened to that
I know loads of people who swear by the okuma the wife has one of these herself.
I have a limited edition youngs which is a thing of beauty which I got from the wife and kids for Xmas about 10 or so years ago I think but it could be longer lol
Depending on its use
Some people say for trotting the line should come of the top
And you shouldn't have a lot of line on it so to stop bedding in
I find 100m one shot spool is about right for me
And the spool is 1”
First pin I ever owned was a 4” Leeds centrepin in the 80's
God knows what happened to that
In reply to Post #10
Thanks for the feedback F
So potentially, the wider spool might be best even with 100 yards of line, interesting.
I have been doing my homework on the net but liked to ask on here too.
EDIT, I wasn't clear (it may be obvious from my Q's) but this would a river float trotting pin.
Thanks for the feedback F
So potentially, the wider spool might be best even with 100 yards of line, interesting.
I have been doing my homework on the net but liked to ask on here too.
EDIT, I wasn't clear (it may be obvious from my Q's) but this would a river float trotting pin.
In reply to Post #11
Spool width depends on the thickness of the reel seat/handle for me, some rods I like narrow, others wide.
I have an aventa pro which is the same as the Sheffield, but not as pretty, and a super lightweight.
The okuma will spin longer and takes less to start it
The superlight has an adjustable brake to slow the spool which is helpful for casting and trotting
Both attract grit, make sure you riddle your maggots or you find yourself cleaning behind the spool a lot! The youngs is worse in that respect
The okuma is very versatile, you can pretty much use it in any situation on any rod, where the superlight is great on a very lightweight rod with fine lines, it feels too delicate for heavier tackle
Spool width depends on the thickness of the reel seat/handle for me, some rods I like narrow, others wide.
I have an aventa pro which is the same as the Sheffield, but not as pretty, and a super lightweight.
The okuma will spin longer and takes less to start it
The superlight has an adjustable brake to slow the spool which is helpful for casting and trotting
Both attract grit, make sure you riddle your maggots or you find yourself cleaning behind the spool a lot! The youngs is worse in that respect
The okuma is very versatile, you can pretty much use it in any situation on any rod, where the superlight is great on a very lightweight rod with fine lines, it feels too delicate for heavier tackle
In reply to Post #11
You did say a river but some buy spare spools and use them on lakes as well lol
Also make sure you have an eye lower down on the rod as that helps with grabbing fistfuls of line to help with casting.
Essentially
You pull line from each of the eyes from with your left hand if holding the rod in the right and Chuck it from the side
You did say a river but some buy spare spools and use them on lakes as well lol
Also make sure you have an eye lower down on the rod as that helps with grabbing fistfuls of line to help with casting.
Essentially
You pull line from each of the eyes from with your left hand if holding the rod in the right and Chuck it from the side
In reply to Post #13
I've never seen the point in spare spools for centrepins, they cost 80% the price of a whole reel, and with a lot of reels it takes a while for the spool/spindle to 'mate' properly. Especially true with true centrepins, but it also applies to bearing reels like most youngs with an end float screw
I've never seen the point in spare spools for centrepins, they cost 80% the price of a whole reel, and with a lot of reels it takes a while for the spool/spindle to 'mate' properly. Especially true with true centrepins, but it also applies to bearing reels like most youngs with an end float screw
Thanks for the feedback once again
I had some new rods done by Mark Tunley a while back, a slightly heavier float rod, Torrix 12' 1.25lb to cover most float work (I have other longer match rods for lighter work) and some Torrix 12' 2lb with 7 rings, 2 on the lower section ( a preferred ring pattern for Mark on rivers).
Is the Okuma you guys refering to the Sheffield or the Raw? Even on the various CP sites I looked at the Okuma seem to be very well regarded.
Can you clarify heavier tackle for the superlights Duggs please?
I had some new rods done by Mark Tunley a while back, a slightly heavier float rod, Torrix 12' 1.25lb to cover most float work (I have other longer match rods for lighter work) and some Torrix 12' 2lb with 7 rings, 2 on the lower section ( a preferred ring pattern for Mark on rivers).
Is the Okuma you guys refering to the Sheffield or the Raw? Even on the various CP sites I looked at the Okuma seem to be very well regarded.
Can you clarify heavier tackle for the superlights Duggs please?
In reply to Post #15
Okuma Sheffield
Okuma Sheffield
In reply to Post #15
Most okuma are pretty much the same reel, if you look closely you'll see the spool and back are identical, it's only the faceplate and colour scheme that changes. The bearings may be different grades but you can mix and match the components
If you handle the superlight you'll see what I mean, but I use it on an odd ball Harrison interceptor rod I got from Mark tunley, around a pound tc. The reel is so light most longer or heavier tc rods feel tip heavy. I have braid on it now but I don't think I've put mono over 3lb on it
Most okuma are pretty much the same reel, if you look closely you'll see the spool and back are identical, it's only the faceplate and colour scheme that changes. The bearings may be different grades but you can mix and match the components
If you handle the superlight you'll see what I mean, but I use it on an odd ball Harrison interceptor rod I got from Mark tunley, around a pound tc. The reel is so light most longer or heavier tc rods feel tip heavy. I have braid on it now but I don't think I've put mono over 3lb on it
Food for thought, thank you
In reply to Post #18
It really depends on what your quarry is - as they are much harder to use than a fixed spool.
I've an okuma Sheffield since 2006 (so no line guard, they get effected by the slightest bit of wind with the line getting wrapped in places you don't want it to be if your not careful. They are great for long trotting for chub with light lines, I only put 4-5lb line (max 50 yards of line, too much line and it's gets bedded in and won't pull freely from the spool in the current) with the line coming off the top as it gives much more control of the float and when playing fish, as if you have the line on the bottom it forces your thumb off the spool when the fish wants to take line resulting in possible birds nests.
Casting is very different you have the Wallis cast - which is easy when mastered . Or you can just take a couple of loops and flick the float out, it's all about balance & tip control
For me you can't beat long trotting.
There is nothing quite like catching a 6lb + chub on an 18 hook and 2.5lb hook length. (Lost in their cavernous mouths), when the float buries and you think you've hooked the bottom you get so much more feel with a pin, as they try to get into undergrowth on the far bank, your rod bent double (that first attempt for freedom they make) every flick of the tail, fin is felt as you apply maximum pressure to keep them from the snag - it's all very satisfying when looking down on your quarry in the net.
It really depends on what your quarry is - as they are much harder to use than a fixed spool.
I've an okuma Sheffield since 2006 (so no line guard, they get effected by the slightest bit of wind with the line getting wrapped in places you don't want it to be if your not careful. They are great for long trotting for chub with light lines, I only put 4-5lb line (max 50 yards of line, too much line and it's gets bedded in and won't pull freely from the spool in the current) with the line coming off the top as it gives much more control of the float and when playing fish, as if you have the line on the bottom it forces your thumb off the spool when the fish wants to take line resulting in possible birds nests.
Casting is very different you have the Wallis cast - which is easy when mastered . Or you can just take a couple of loops and flick the float out, it's all about balance & tip control
For me you can't beat long trotting.
There is nothing quite like catching a 6lb + chub on an 18 hook and 2.5lb hook length. (Lost in their cavernous mouths), when the float buries and you think you've hooked the bottom you get so much more feel with a pin, as they try to get into undergrowth on the far bank, your rod bent double (that first attempt for freedom they make) every flick of the tail, fin is felt as you apply maximum pressure to keep them from the snag - it's all very satisfying when looking down on your quarry in the net.
In reply to Post #19
I've never tried braid - just worried that the line guides on the rod I use may become grooved due to the braid.
Drennan lines very recommended as are their hooks to nylon
Drennan floatfish mono
Drennan supplex (fluoro - currently using very impressed)
Preston innovations reflo fluorocarbon is another excellent line with good knot strength.
I've never tried braid - just worried that the line guides on the rod I use may become grooved due to the braid.
Drennan lines very recommended as are their hooks to nylon
Drennan floatfish mono
Drennan supplex (fluoro - currently using very impressed)
Preston innovations reflo fluorocarbon is another excellent line with good knot strength.
In reply to Post #20
I preferred the reflo to double strength, I'll check out the flouro for rig line, I wouldn't want a sinking mainline for trotting.
I don't find braid any harder than fine mono to deal with, and it's much better for hitting quick bites at the end of a trot. If you try it on the okuma, either tie your knot and tape it to the spool or add a layer of mono beneath the braid or it'll slip under pressure!
I never use a line guard, they cause more tangles than they solve
I preferred the reflo to double strength, I'll check out the flouro for rig line, I wouldn't want a sinking mainline for trotting.
I don't find braid any harder than fine mono to deal with, and it's much better for hitting quick bites at the end of a trot. If you try it on the okuma, either tie your knot and tape it to the spool or add a layer of mono beneath the braid or it'll slip under pressure!
I never use a line guard, they cause more tangles than they solve
Had a good look round last night, Total FT have a good page on types and test. Can't help but feel I'm doing the typical and trying to get a 1 fits all reel, which will be a compromise. I wonder how the Walton Rolling pin would feel after a days fishing compared to say the Bewick wich is 100g lighter, or how the Walton would feel on a lighter rod...hmm. Probably best to not get ahead of myself 
In reply to Post #22
My rolling pin only gets used for floater fishing and short trotting for barbel and would never use it on a light weight rod.
My rolling pin only gets used for floater fishing and short trotting for barbel and would never use it on a light weight rod.
In reply to Post #22
That's 4 very different reels you've mentioned now, three of them are great for specific uses with one 'jack of all trades'.
What do you actually want to do with it?
For multi purpose pins I'd reccomend
Okuma (any of them)
Youngs purist, heritage, atom, bj
Fred crouch aerial replica
That's 4 very different reels you've mentioned now, three of them are great for specific uses with one 'jack of all trades'.
What do you actually want to do with it?
For multi purpose pins I'd reccomend
Okuma (any of them)
Youngs purist, heritage, atom, bj
Fred crouch aerial replica
In reply to Post #24
Yes, your right Duggs, but as with anything the more you look into it the more you see.
That Total fishing review had 2 mentioned against each other, Sheffield & Bewick, Bewick won for extended periods of use trotting but Okuma won versatility.
As already said, I'm looking for something that doesn't exist, a jack of all trades, bit like when I use my spod reels on my 2.75lb Greys 9' stalker, it does the job.
I think I'll start with a trotting pin for lighter work 1st
Edit, apologies if terminology is incorrect I saw the Walton referred to as a ledgering pin on one of the FB sites.
Yes, your right Duggs, but as with anything the more you look into it the more you see.
That Total fishing review had 2 mentioned against each other, Sheffield & Bewick, Bewick won for extended periods of use trotting but Okuma won versatility.
As already said, I'm looking for something that doesn't exist, a jack of all trades, bit like when I use my spod reels on my 2.75lb Greys 9' stalker, it does the job.
I think I'll start with a trotting pin for lighter work 1st
Edit, apologies if terminology is incorrect I saw the Walton referred to as a ledgering pin on one of the FB sites.
In reply to Post #25
I either have, or have had all the reels mentioned except the okuma raw so I'm well placed to comment
The Bewick is a really nice, lightweight pin. I sold mine on as I was using it and the bj superlight on the same rod and in the same situations, if the superlight wasn't a present from the mrs I probably would kept the Bewick instead.
The tft guide sounds like good advice if your using a 12-13ft rod, trotting shorter runs.
With longer rods they usually feel better with a slightly heavier reel, and the heavier, bigger spool has more inertia, like a fly wheel which makes retrieving long trots much easier as you can just bat the spool rather than winding. Remember one wind gives you just inches of line rather than a yard or more.
The reels are also different types with the okuma being a bearing pin, the Bewick is a true pin. The differences are subtle but do make a difference in how you use them
I either have, or have had all the reels mentioned except the okuma raw so I'm well placed to comment
The Bewick is a really nice, lightweight pin. I sold mine on as I was using it and the bj superlight on the same rod and in the same situations, if the superlight wasn't a present from the mrs I probably would kept the Bewick instead.
The tft guide sounds like good advice if your using a 12-13ft rod, trotting shorter runs.
With longer rods they usually feel better with a slightly heavier reel, and the heavier, bigger spool has more inertia, like a fly wheel which makes retrieving long trots much easier as you can just bat the spool rather than winding. Remember one wind gives you just inches of line rather than a yard or more.
The reels are also different types with the okuma being a bearing pin, the Bewick is a true pin. The differences are subtle but do make a difference in how you use them
In reply to Post #1
. . .I've recently bought an Alvey Shakespeare Lincoln centrepin that I managed to source brand new, boxed and unused for £50.
Its unique in that its made from graphite (and therefore not cold in winter to the touch), is 'closed' so grit and crap are less likely to create probs but also has a side cast facility (like the Ray Walton Rolling pin) to allow you to rotate the reel on your rod, lock the spool and cast further and as you would do with a normal fixed spool reel . . .
Spins beautifully so ideal for trotting . . .only 'prob' is it has no ratchet (only the on/off brake) so not great for ledgering/leaving on a rod rest etc.
Have just loaded it with 16lb / 0.12 Ultra 8 Fireline braid (equivalent to 2lb mono) and will also be using it on the Colne/Frays! For stick float fishing will fish the rig section as standard Drennan Supplex to give a bit of stretch but also planning to use it in the summer for freelining crust on the top . . . .
. . .I've recently bought an Alvey Shakespeare Lincoln centrepin that I managed to source brand new, boxed and unused for £50.
Its unique in that its made from graphite (and therefore not cold in winter to the touch), is 'closed' so grit and crap are less likely to create probs but also has a side cast facility (like the Ray Walton Rolling pin) to allow you to rotate the reel on your rod, lock the spool and cast further and as you would do with a normal fixed spool reel . . .
Spins beautifully so ideal for trotting . . .only 'prob' is it has no ratchet (only the on/off brake) so not great for ledgering/leaving on a rod rest etc.
Have just loaded it with 16lb / 0.12 Ultra 8 Fireline braid (equivalent to 2lb mono) and will also be using it on the Colne/Frays! For stick float fishing will fish the rig section as standard Drennan Supplex to give a bit of stretch but also planning to use it in the summer for freelining crust on the top . . . .
In reply to Post #27
This time of year all my trotting is standing up, either a morning or afternoon it's quite tough on the upper back (maybe my advancing years 😃 I did my discs in a few years back C5, C6 and C7) so keeping the tackle weight down is a good idea. Zippo hand warmer comes in handy with the pins metal drum, and if sub 3 degrees weather be sure to mr sheen your guides (the night before) to stop the line from sticking.
This time of year all my trotting is standing up, either a morning or afternoon it's quite tough on the upper back (maybe my advancing years 😃 I did my discs in a few years back C5, C6 and C7) so keeping the tackle weight down is a good idea. Zippo hand warmer comes in handy with the pins metal drum, and if sub 3 degrees weather be sure to mr sheen your guides (the night before) to stop the line from sticking.
In reply to Post #1
I've a couple of centrepins which I use for stick float trotting, it's a great way of fishing, very simple and very effective.
A Leslies of Luton "Insight" which looks very much like a Kingpin but I'm not 100% sure. Might be a Dav Swallow, I can't find out anything about it. I got it off my Dad about 20 years ago, it's anodised purple and is rather good.
The other one is a Fred Crouch Aerial replica. I got this one as my brother dropped my original one in The Thames about 45 years ago and I never got it back. Always wanted a replacement to actually use, but the really good ones cost daft money and I'd go and drop it/chip it etc so had the FC one made as a treat to myself. It's a nice reel but takes a bit more to get it going than the Insight if I'm honest. Probably more suited to a bigger stick float than I was using it for I suspect.
Doesn't answer your question however, I got my son a cheap one couple of years back, was around £50 and for the odd trip now and again it's perfectly useable. I can't recall what it was now. I'll ask and post back.
Money no object I'd get myself a Chris Lythe but lock it in a glass case and drool over it.
I've a couple of centrepins which I use for stick float trotting, it's a great way of fishing, very simple and very effective.
A Leslies of Luton "Insight" which looks very much like a Kingpin but I'm not 100% sure. Might be a Dav Swallow, I can't find out anything about it. I got it off my Dad about 20 years ago, it's anodised purple and is rather good.
The other one is a Fred Crouch Aerial replica. I got this one as my brother dropped my original one in The Thames about 45 years ago and I never got it back. Always wanted a replacement to actually use, but the really good ones cost daft money and I'd go and drop it/chip it etc so had the FC one made as a treat to myself. It's a nice reel but takes a bit more to get it going than the Insight if I'm honest. Probably more suited to a bigger stick float than I was using it for I suspect.
Doesn't answer your question however, I got my son a cheap one couple of years back, was around £50 and for the odd trip now and again it's perfectly useable. I can't recall what it was now. I'll ask and post back.
Money no object I'd get myself a Chris Lythe but lock it in a glass case and drool over it.
In reply to Post #26
I've got my eye on a few different options Duggs, thanks for everyones help
@ Belch, have you used it yet?
I've got my eye on a few different options Duggs, thanks for everyones help
@ Belch, have you used it yet?
In reply to Post #29
I'd be interested in seeing a photo of the Leslie's pin
The Fred crouches can take a bit of running in, mine has freed up a lot in the years I've had it, I've started to use the brake lately when trying to cast a bit further. I'm almost tempted to speed up the process on my atom with a bit of brasso, it still needs a flick to start it and that's had more use than the crouch. (I use the atom for trotting, crouch for carp)
I prefer true pins like it as you can slow it down just by turning your wrist.
@vossy, let us know what you get
Davis tackle are usually worth a look for centrepins, I'm getting security warnings on the site recently tho
I'm tempted to add an adcock stanton to my collection In the near future, I just fancy something different
I'd be interested in seeing a photo of the Leslie's pin
The Fred crouches can take a bit of running in, mine has freed up a lot in the years I've had it, I've started to use the brake lately when trying to cast a bit further. I'm almost tempted to speed up the process on my atom with a bit of brasso, it still needs a flick to start it and that's had more use than the crouch. (I use the atom for trotting, crouch for carp)
I prefer true pins like it as you can slow it down just by turning your wrist.
@vossy, let us know what you get
Davis tackle are usually worth a look for centrepins, I'm getting security warnings on the site recently tho
I'm tempted to add an adcock stanton to my collection In the near future, I just fancy something different
In reply to Post #31
Will do duggs
Funnily enough I've just sent a enquiry to Adcocks re the stanton I like the back to basics nature of it? I've been keeping my eye on a few, Okuma Sheffields seem to be going for near new price, so I'm not sure if I'd buy second hand, the Raw even more.
I must admit to erring towards JW Young and a reel with a click check and brake at the mo, not fussed about a cage. Had my eye on a John Wilson on Ebay but they ended it early (sods law) but note it's being made as the JW Heritage now.
Also getting the warning re Davis.
Will do duggs
Funnily enough I've just sent a enquiry to Adcocks re the stanton
I like the back to basics nature of it? I've been keeping my eye on a few, Okuma Sheffields seem to be going for near new price, so I'm not sure if I'd buy second hand, the Raw even more.I must admit to erring towards JW Young and a reel with a click check and brake at the mo, not fussed about a cage. Had my eye on a John Wilson on Ebay but they ended it early (sods law) but note it's being made as the JW Heritage now.
Also getting the warning re Davis.
In reply to Post #31
Leslies PIn Photo's, not sure if this the correct way to do it. (it's miles easier in Tapatalk)
The cheapo pin I referred to in my post was a TF Gear Classic. Just checked.
https://imgur.com/JCCNjUl
https://imgur.com/HtuyC4Y
https://imgur.com/WtYTWB8
nope, can't for the life of me work out how to actually embed a picture lol
Leslies PIn Photo's, not sure if this the correct way to do it. (it's miles easier in Tapatalk)
The cheapo pin I referred to in my post was a TF Gear Classic. Just checked.
https://imgur.com/JCCNjUl
https://imgur.com/HtuyC4Y
https://imgur.com/WtYTWB8
nope, can't for the life of me work out how to actually embed a picture lol
In reply to Post #32
I tend to buy new if they're available still, used prices don't seem good value for buyers.
Prices keep going up tho, you complain about the price of used Sheffield, I sold mine for £90
You could buy them for £100 new at the time though
The aventa pro was the best value of the okuma, mine was £60 new and just as good, though not as pretty as the sheffield
I tend to buy new if they're available still, used prices don't seem good value for buyers.
Prices keep going up tho, you complain about the price of used Sheffield, I sold mine for £90
You could buy them for £100 new at the time though
The aventa pro was the best value of the okuma, mine was £60 new and just as good, though not as pretty as the sheffield
In reply to Post #33
Don't worry, there are members that have been here 15 years that can't post a photo
Looks nice, I see the dave swallow resemblance
I'd guess made by Arnold engineering (kingpin)
Don't worry, there are members that have been here 15 years that can't post a photo
Looks nice, I see the dave swallow resemblance
I'd guess made by Arnold engineering (kingpin)
In reply to Post #35
Did we exchange email today?
Did we exchange email today?
In reply to Post #36
Nope
Not been on there in ages but Tim lennon ran a group on Facebook, he'd probably know more about it
Nope
Not been on there in ages but Tim lennon ran a group on Facebook, he'd probably know more about it
In reply to Post #37
Lol I thought you might be Tim. I contacted him today and he kindly responded within about 5 minutes Lol.
We're both unsure. Could be a good copy. I don't recall reading at the time where everything “insight” was sourced. It's a great reel nonetheless.
Lol I thought you might be Tim. I contacted him today and he kindly responded within about 5 minutes Lol.
We're both unsure. Could be a good copy. I don't recall reading at the time where everything “insight” was sourced. It's a great reel nonetheless.
In reply to Post #38
Only 30 years between us
I know the insight carp rods were on Harrison blanks so they put their name on good stuff
Only 30 years between us
I know the insight carp rods were on Harrison blanks so they put their name on good stuff
In reply to Post #39
Lol cheers Duggs, I'll keep investigating
Lol cheers Duggs, I'll keep investigating
In reply to Post #40
One of your images...
One of your images...
In reply to Post #41
That is definitely an Arnold Kingpin, even the box is the same
That is definitely an Arnold Kingpin, even the box is the same
In reply to Post #42
I think so, but the reel foot area is different to the ones I've seen
I think so, but the reel foot area is different to the ones I've seen
In reply to Post #30
. . .not had a chance yet - rivers in the Midlands are all in flood (even the Alne which is a Frays sized stream) but will let you know when I do . . .won't be bombing down to the Colne until lockdown is sorted (visit my OAP 'rents!) . . .
. . .not had a chance yet - rivers in the Midlands are all in flood (even the Alne which is a Frays sized stream) but will let you know when I do . . .won't be bombing down to the Colne until lockdown is sorted (visit my OAP 'rents!) . . .
In reply to Post #44
Review of the okuma Sheffield vs youngs
https://www.anglersnet.co.uk/reviews/tackle-and-bait-reviews/okuma-sheffield-young-bob-james/
Review of the okuma Sheffield vs youngs
https://www.anglersnet.co.uk/reviews/tackle-and-bait-reviews/okuma-sheffield-young-bob-james/
In reply to Post #45
Tbh the guys lack of experience is a factor in his verdict, I'd bet by now he's realised you can reverse the check pawl if your right handed and have the line off the top
And that the brake/drag is particularly useful when Wallis casting
It's also a factor that the sheffield was around £100 then, the bj maybe £250, the okuma is now £200+ while a bj can be found for less than £300 (
)
The sheffield is an excellent reel for sure, and to the reviewer it was a better choice, but he wasn't using the bj to its potential, didn't understand features of it and had it set up wrong.
Tbh the guys lack of experience is a factor in his verdict, I'd bet by now he's realised you can reverse the check pawl if your right handed and have the line off the top
And that the brake/drag is particularly useful when Wallis casting
It's also a factor that the sheffield was around £100 then, the bj maybe £250, the okuma is now £200+ while a bj can be found for less than £300 (
)The sheffield is an excellent reel for sure, and to the reviewer it was a better choice, but he wasn't using the bj to its potential, didn't understand features of it and had it set up wrong.
In reply to Post #41
Thank you for putting that up, appreciated
Thank you for putting that up, appreciated
Well, I was hoping to post a picture of a nice fish caught on my new centrepin as the Mrs gave me a pass for 4 days this week...then my ankle twinged last Thurs and here I sit admiring the lovely fishing weather outside beyond a badly swolen ankle!
Back to topic, In Feb I bought a new Okuma Sheffield as Bobco had them on offer at a price which I hadn't seen bettered anywhere, so it would have been rude no to. Can't wait to get it out on the river or maybe after a Carp.
Back to topic, In Feb I bought a new Okuma Sheffield as Bobco had them on offer at a price which I hadn't seen bettered anywhere, so it would have been rude no to. Can't wait to get it out on the river or maybe after a Carp.
In reply to Post #48
How's your luck
Been doing a lot of early morning trotting sessions this past week with the youngs atom
I'm hoping the new one they have coming has the drag from the river specialist, I'll have to get one if so, but it sounds like it's just a black version of the atom
How's your luck
Been doing a lot of early morning trotting sessions this past week with the youngs atom
I'm hoping the new one they have coming has the drag from the river specialist, I'll have to get one if so, but it sounds like it's just a black version of the atom
In reply to Post #49
Even better now duggs, been diagnosed with Gout ffs, thanks for asking Once the doc suggested it I had a 'Google' like you do...check...check...check..sudden realisation it's been going on for years..oh well. I know what flared it up this time, too many BBQ's a few weeks back...and beer
Lucky bugger getting out, had much luck? I had a epiphany the other day, I might have to get some waders
how can I do that without being seen to be following the 'trend'...bright pink ones maybe
Not seen that Atom, I've been too busy drooling over the Triton True Pin....
Even better now duggs, been diagnosed with Gout ffs, thanks for asking
Once the doc suggested it I had a 'Google' like you do...check...check...check..sudden realisation it's been going on for years..oh well. I know what flared it up this time, too many BBQ's a few weeks back...and beer Lucky bugger getting out, had much luck? I had a epiphany the other day, I might have to get some waders
how can I do that without being seen to be following the 'trend'...bright pink ones maybe Not seen that Atom, I've been too busy drooling over the Triton True Pin....
In reply to Post #50
At one point I thought gout may be the cause of my knee problems but luckily it's not, doesn't sound nice tho
Had some nice roach and gudgeon but mostly small dace, the better spots for carp and barbel are getting hammered so ill avoid them till it settles a bit
The Triton is a black version of the atom, last I checked they hadn't released any pics of it. I may get one anyway, but if it has the 2 stage drag I'll buy it on the spot
The atom is lovely tho, quite heavy but it balances my long rod nicely
You won't get accosted by the judgemental carp police if you wade in shorts and crocs
At one point I thought gout may be the cause of my knee problems but luckily it's not, doesn't sound nice tho
Had some nice roach and gudgeon but mostly small dace, the better spots for carp and barbel are getting hammered so ill avoid them till it settles a bit
The Triton is a black version of the atom, last I checked they hadn't released any pics of it. I may get one anyway, but if it has the 2 stage drag I'll buy it on the spot
The atom is lovely tho, quite heavy but it balances my long rod nicely
You won't get accosted by the judgemental carp police if you wade in shorts and crocs
In reply to Post #51
Click
Better get your wallet out
You won't get accosted by the judgemental carp police if you wade in shorts and crocs
Click
Better get your wallet out
You won't get accosted by the judgemental carp police if you wade in shorts and crocs
In reply to Post #52
That's a lovely looking pin.
My trusty okuma Sheffield has served me well for trotted stick float chub to 7lb. I would like to splash out on a nicer pin though this one seems made to last.
That's a lovely looking pin.
My trusty okuma Sheffield has served me well for trotted stick float chub to 7lb. I would like to splash out on a nicer pin though this one seems made to last.
In reply to Post #52
It does look lovely but it doesn't have the 2 stage drag
(have a look at the river specialist to see what I mean)
The river specialist is a nice reel too, I just prefer true pins for the situations that reel is suited for or I'd have one by now
I really should get rid of a couple
It does look lovely but it doesn't have the 2 stage drag
(have a look at the river specialist to see what I mean)The river specialist is a nice reel too, I just prefer true pins for the situations that reel is suited for or I'd have one by now
I really should get rid of a couple
In reply to Post #53
Not many bearing reels nicer than the sheffield tbh, some are better for particular purposes tho
Not many bearing reels nicer than the sheffield tbh, some are better for particular purposes tho
In reply to Post #54
You could always get it modified and enter the elite collectors area, you know you wanna
You could always get it modified and enter the elite collectors area, you know you wanna
In reply to Post #56
I have spoken to Gary Mills about a custom version with a couple of tweaks, but the costs get a bit silly. I'm waiting for one of his perfection reels closer to what I want but the ones I've looked at are either unsuitable or sold out before I see them
I have spoken to Gary Mills about a custom version with a couple of tweaks, but the costs get a bit silly. I'm waiting for one of his perfection reels closer to what I want but the ones I've looked at are either unsuitable or sold out before I see them
In reply to Post #57
Do you have a lovely display cabinet, bet you do, don't worry I'm just jealous
I'd have to lock them away, the thought of someone nicking them, kind of ruins the point of such beautiful creations*
* my house was broken around 30 years ago, it's stayed with me to this day, drives the Mrs nuts.
Do you have a lovely display cabinet, bet you do, don't worry I'm just jealous
I'd have to lock them away, the thought of someone nicking them, kind of ruins the point of such beautiful creations*
* my house was broken around 30 years ago, it's stayed with me to this day, drives the Mrs nuts.
In reply to Post #58
My Mrs would love that
I don't buy them to look at tho, nearly all are on a rod and getting used regularly.
The ones I don't use much are the walton and my aventa pro
I keep threatening to sell the walton but never seem to list it
My Mrs would love that
I don't buy them to look at tho, nearly all are on a rod and getting used regularly.
The ones I don't use much are the walton and my aventa pro
I keep threatening to sell the walton but never seem to list it
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