Hi All,
I've realised for the last two seasons I've never cast further than 60 yards at the two lakes I fish so I am looking at getting a set of small water rods, preferably something quite cheap.
I did see the Sonik Vader X 10ft rods and the new Wychwood Riot rods which look good value.
Can anyone recommend some please as not sure I'll sell my 12ft just yet in case I don't get on with them.
Baz
I've realised for the last two seasons I've never cast further than 60 yards at the two lakes I fish so I am looking at getting a set of small water rods, preferably something quite cheap.
I did see the Sonik Vader X 10ft rods and the new Wychwood Riot rods which look good value.
Can anyone recommend some please as not sure I'll sell my 12ft just yet in case I don't get on with them.
Baz
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Not a recommendation is it? Esp as you havent tested them! Vader X/Avid get some good reviews...The Wychwood Extricators are getting to rave reviews atm...Choice of full shrink/Duplon handle or Cork. Sensible price too with a choice of tc. I got some Shimano 10ft Velocities and im more than happy. Chub outcast small water rods come up well too,,think either 10 or 11ft and 2.5 tc. Might be worth going thru some older posts..
Regards Andy
Just had a look...Check reviews section chub small water rods....
Not a recommendation is it? Esp as you havent tested them! Vader X/Avid get some good reviews...The Wychwood Extricators are getting to rave reviews atm...Choice of full shrink/Duplon handle or Cork. Sensible price too with a choice of tc. I got some Shimano 10ft Velocities and im more than happy. Chub outcast small water rods come up well too,,think either 10 or 11ft and 2.5 tc. Might be worth going thru some older posts..
Regards Andy
Just had a look...Check reviews section chub small water rods....
In reply to Post #1
I was looking for the same last year, there are loads of options (as others have said).
Ended up going down the 2nd hand route and got some 11ft Nash / Diawa Amorphus 1.75 test. Haven't regretted it for one min.
I was looking for the same last year, there are loads of options (as others have said).
Ended up going down the 2nd hand route and got some 11ft Nash / Diawa Amorphus 1.75 test. Haven't regretted it for one min.
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I've just taken delivery of 3 VaderX 10 footers.
Initial impressions are good, seem well finished for a budget rod and nice and light.
Picked them up for £118.00 delivered off the bay, so just under £40.00 a rod.
Haven't used them yet, I will give one a bash on Tuesday.
I also have 3 Chub Outkast 11' Smallwater rods. 2.25tc. Lovely little rods, as light as a feather and great to play fish on. I just wanted something with a little more "backbone" for my daughter to use in France in July hence why I bought the VaderX too.
I've just taken delivery of 3 VaderX 10 footers.
Initial impressions are good, seem well finished for a budget rod and nice and light.
Picked them up for £118.00 delivered off the bay, so just under £40.00 a rod.
Haven't used them yet, I will give one a bash on Tuesday.
I also have 3 Chub Outkast 11' Smallwater rods. 2.25tc. Lovely little rods, as light as a feather and great to play fish on. I just wanted something with a little more "backbone" for my daughter to use in France in July hence why I bought the VaderX too.
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I have just purchased a set of 3 Wychwood Riot rods in 10ft 3lb TC.
They seem extremely well mad and an absolute bargain withe 20% off Ebay voucher at£96 delivered !
They retail at around £109 for the three and the proof will be in the using. I purchased them as dedicated boat rods for a weedy water I fish.
I have just purchased a set of 3 Wychwood Riot rods in 10ft 3lb TC.
They seem extremely well mad and an absolute bargain withe 20% off Ebay voucher at£96 delivered !
They retail at around £109 for the three and the proof will be in the using. I purchased them as dedicated boat rods for a weedy water I fish.
In reply to Post #6
I wonder if the Riot rods are going to replace the Extricator MLT rods. The price range is the same.
I wonder if the Riot rods are going to replace the Extricator MLT rods. The price range is the same.
In reply to Post #1
A lot of the shorter length rods coming out now have quite high test curves, and many are fast actioned, which makes them feel like broom handles.
I've tried some in the 2.75-3.25lb TC and found them awful, like long boat rods!
A nice actioned rod, at a good price, is the Chub Outkast, 2.25lb TC Great little rods, superb playing action, and capable of respectable distance if needed
A lot of the shorter length rods coming out now have quite high test curves, and many are fast actioned, which makes them feel like broom handles.
I've tried some in the 2.75-3.25lb TC and found them awful, like long boat rods!
A nice actioned rod, at a good price, is the Chub Outkast, 2.25lb TC Great little rods, superb playing action, and capable of respectable distance if needed
In reply to Post #8
If your looking for a small water rod then take a look at the Harrison baby ballistas .i got a set that's 2.5 tc and are a absolute dream to use .plenty powerful enough and a lovely to play fish on . They cost a bit more then chub or wychwood but are worth every penny
If your looking for a small water rod then take a look at the Harrison baby ballistas .i got a set that's 2.5 tc and are a absolute dream to use .plenty powerful enough and a lovely to play fish on . They cost a bit more then chub or wychwood but are worth every penny
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Yes they will , the extricator plus rods are due out in a couple of weeks these are fantastic.
Yes they will , the extricator plus rods are due out in a couple of weeks these are fantastic.
I have 10ft shimano velocities in 3lb and although they're great rods for the money I think they're quite powerful, not like broomsticks as they bend well , but I wouldn't want to be fishing for double figure carp in a 2 acre lake with them.
In reply to Post #11
had fish up to 29lb from lakes and rivers using the shimano velocity 10ft rods, perfect
had fish up to 29lb from lakes and rivers using the shimano velocity 10ft rods, perfect
In reply to Post #9
The Baby Ballista's are a superb rod, and I'd personally love a set. But they are much more expensive than the OP suggests he wants to spend, even 2nd hand....
I got to use one of my VaderX 10 footers on Tuesday. Super little rod, nice and light and didn't feel at all "pokerish" (if there is such a word!).
Only used a very light (1oz) lead and it felt perfect for the type of fishing I do, which is similar to the OP's. I've no doubt at all that it could handle anything that swims in our lake (carp to 40ish).
Not being funny but as I mentioned above I picked up 3 of these brand new for £118.00 which is about the same price as you'd pay for ONE second hand Ballista!
The Baby Ballista's are a superb rod, and I'd personally love a set. But they are much more expensive than the OP suggests he wants to spend, even 2nd hand....
I got to use one of my VaderX 10 footers on Tuesday. Super little rod, nice and light and didn't feel at all "pokerish" (if there is such a word!).
Only used a very light (1oz) lead and it felt perfect for the type of fishing I do, which is similar to the OP's. I've no doubt at all that it could handle anything that swims in our lake (carp to 40ish).
Not being funny but as I mentioned above I picked up 3 of these brand new for £118.00 which is about the same price as you'd pay for ONE second hand Ballista!
In reply to Post #1
on a water i am looking at fishing is a small intimate venue with fish up to low 30's with a few lillies/reeds etc and was looking at the chub small water 2.25/2.5
are the 2.25 going to be a bit light?
couple of companies make floater rods in these test curves these sound ideal for small leads, soft tip thru action
some of the shorter rods recently don't seem to have a proper length handle (Nash Dwarfs) which i find a bit odd
on a water i am looking at fishing is a small intimate venue with fish up to low 30's with a few lillies/reeds etc and was looking at the chub small water 2.25/2.5
are the 2.25 going to be a bit light?
couple of companies make floater rods in these test curves these sound ideal for small leads, soft tip thru action
some of the shorter rods recently don't seem to have a proper length handle (Nash Dwarfs) which i find a bit odd
In reply to Post #14
I've been looking for a couple of shorter rods for a while, think that 2.25/2.5 would be perfect, just bending right through.
A lot of the options on the market seem far too stiff to me.
I've been looking for a couple of shorter rods for a while, think that 2.25/2.5 would be perfect, just bending right through.
A lot of the options on the market seem far too stiff to me.
I've 3 of the tackle boxes darenth valley 10footers. great rods and a good price.
In reply to Post #16
I have the tackle box CFX 10ft Rods, they are superb and I highly recommend them.
I have the tackle box CFX 10ft Rods, they are superb and I highly recommend them.
In reply to Post #13
are the vader rods as soft and forgiving under the tip as the chub small water rods.
im still enjoying my tfg 10ft compact commercial rods, but good to have options for the future as they are discontinued now
are the vader rods as soft and forgiving under the tip as the chub small water rods.
im still enjoying my tfg 10ft compact commercial rods, but good to have options for the future as they are discontinued now
In reply to Post #15
Tom, I don't know your budget, but if you can, have a look at the Ballista 10 foot 2.75tc rods. They really are nice rods to play fish on. Proper rods for proper small water fishing.
Tom, I don't know your budget, but if you can, have a look at the Ballista 10 foot 2.75tc rods. They really are nice rods to play fish on. Proper rods for proper small water fishing.
In reply to Post #19
never seen any for sale 2nd hand to try one out :/
well there is a 11ft 3lb on ebay atm but that sounds too much for a "small" water
never seen any for sale 2nd hand to try one out :/
well there is a 11ft 3lb on ebay atm but that sounds too much for a "small" water
In reply to Post #5
2.25lb enough for extracting upper 20's / maybe a 30 from a small little/reedy lake
seen wychwood do a 2.25lb floater rod which sounds similar to the chub small water?
2.25lb enough for extracting upper 20's / maybe a 30 from a small little/reedy lake
seen wychwood do a 2.25lb floater rod which sounds similar to the chub small water?
In reply to Post #21
Will be fine. Had them up to low 30 on a 1.5.
He made a meal of it but my old man landed a 28 on my 6' float rod as kid, nearly pulled me in the drink. The carp boys weren't impressed when the missing trotter brother slipped it in the pan net
Will be fine. Had them up to low 30 on a 1.5.
He made a meal of it but my old man landed a 28 on my 6' float rod as kid, nearly pulled me in the drink. The carp boys weren't impressed when the missing trotter brother slipped it in the pan net
In reply to Post #21
I use these, brilliant rods. Rated at 2.5lb but feel like 2lb and a great action.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-TF-Gear-Compact-Commercial-Carp-Fishing-Rod-10ft-2-5lb-2-Piece-TFG-COMP-004/362566561434
https://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/tf-gear-compact-commercial-carp-rod
I use these, brilliant rods. Rated at 2.5lb but feel like 2lb and a great action.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-TF-Gear-Compact-Commercial-Carp-Fishing-Rod-10ft-2-5lb-2-Piece-TFG-COMP-004/362566561434
https://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/tf-gear-compact-commercial-carp-rod
In reply to Post #13
I just got a set of 10' VaderX rods to see if I wanted to go the short rod route, and use whilst I get a set of rods custom built.
I used them for the first time at the weekend and they are absolutely amazing value for money. I had a quick chuck and was getting 60 yards fairly easily. I caught a strong fighting common of 18 lb and the fight was great with what appeared to be a nice through action on the rod.
for £36 per rod I was impressed to say the least...
Probably don't need to get a set custom built (but will anyway!!)
I just got a set of 10' VaderX rods to see if I wanted to go the short rod route, and use whilst I get a set of rods custom built.
I used them for the first time at the weekend and they are absolutely amazing value for money. I had a quick chuck and was getting 60 yards fairly easily. I caught a strong fighting common of 18 lb and the fight was great with what appeared to be a nice through action on the rod.
for £36 per rod I was impressed to say the least...
Probably don't need to get a set custom built (but will anyway!!)
In reply to Post #8
This is my concern. Was about to pull the trigger on the Xtractor 9ft 2.75 but worried it's not going to have any bend in it when playing the smaller carp.
Anyone got the Xtractors 9ft 2.75's?
This is my concern. Was about to pull the trigger on the Xtractor 9ft 2.75 but worried it's not going to have any bend in it when playing the smaller carp.
Anyone got the Xtractors 9ft 2.75's?
In reply to Post #25
I have tried the 2.75 9ft Xtractors, just to see how they compare to the equivalent scopes. In my opinion, they are a little too stiff and feel beefier than you would expect for a 2.75 rod.
I bought a pair of Wychwoods 10ft FLTR (2.25lb) rods for about £40 each to use as my small water set up. They are excellent value and look great for the money. Nice light crisp blanks too.
Light rods like this are more than capable of landing most fish you'd hook in the Uk, the issue will only come when you are putting out 3oz leads or bags.
I have tried the 2.75 9ft Xtractors, just to see how they compare to the equivalent scopes. In my opinion, they are a little too stiff and feel beefier than you would expect for a 2.75 rod.
I bought a pair of Wychwoods 10ft FLTR (2.25lb) rods for about £40 each to use as my small water set up. They are excellent value and look great for the money. Nice light crisp blanks too.
Light rods like this are more than capable of landing most fish you'd hook in the Uk, the issue will only come when you are putting out 3oz leads or bags.
In reply to Post #26
Top man. Thanks
Top man. Thanks
Following some of the reviews on here I took the plunge (albeit low cost one) and just taken delivery of a set of 3 x TFG Compact 10ft Carp rods in 2.5lb. I bought them as a cheap rods for when go camping, thinking cheap and cheerful ....... but oh my, the blank of the TFG rod is simply stunning and one of the prettiest i have seen, and i am yet to hear a bad word about the action. So nice, that they have instantly relegated my Chub Smallwaters to travel/spare rods.
I normally stick with ESP/Drennan for my main rods and never thought i could be moved away from my Tectrix or MK1 Snipers but I cant wait to use these new TFG's .... and the price is ridiculous at the moment at less than £30 a rod. I hope TFG stays under the radar for most people as some of their rods are lovely and unbelievably priced (original X-Series carp rods, their more recent classic range and compact range are all lovely rods)
I normally stick with ESP/Drennan for my main rods and never thought i could be moved away from my Tectrix or MK1 Snipers but I cant wait to use these new TFG's .... and the price is ridiculous at the moment at less than £30 a rod. I hope TFG stays under the radar for most people as some of their rods are lovely and unbelievably priced (original X-Series carp rods, their more recent classic range and compact range are all lovely rods)
In reply to Post #28
Agree on the TFG 2.5 lb
I would buy another in a heartbeat, even at double the price.
Agree on the TFG 2.5 lb
I would buy another in a heartbeat, even at double the price.
In reply to Post #29
Been looking at 10 ft rods , a few I have looked at have 50 mm but rings , why do it , I really don't see the need .
Been looking at 10 ft rods , a few I have looked at have 50 mm but rings , why do it , I really don't see the need .
In reply to Post #28
Yep TF Gear 10ft compact commercial 2.5lb cracking rods for the money joy to use I have 3 of them myself. Seems like TF Gear have now discontinued them looking at their website.
Yep TF Gear 10ft compact commercial 2.5lb cracking rods for the money joy to use I have 3 of them myself. Seems like TF Gear have now discontinued them looking at their website.
In reply to Post #28
I have been championing these rods for ages. TFG 10ft compact carp 2.5lb.
Such a joy to see them fold over when a big fish surges away in the margins and you have a little smile to yourself knowing your hookhold is as safe as can be
£30 delivered from fishtec.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TF-Gear-Compact-Commercial-10-2-5lb-Carp-Rods-RRP-A-E-A-a-A-a-A-A-79-99-/121421344612
I have been championing these rods for ages. TFG 10ft compact carp 2.5lb.
Such a joy to see them fold over when a big fish surges away in the margins and you have a little smile to yourself knowing your hookhold is as safe as can be
£30 delivered from fishtec.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TF-Gear-Compact-Commercial-10-2-5lb-Carp-Rods-RRP-A-E-A-a-A-a-A-A-79-99-/121421344612
In reply to Post #33
Good to know they are still available then couldn't see them under the carp rod section
Good to know they are still available then couldn't see them under the carp rod section
In reply to Post #32
yep, yours and Carra (?) posts are what helped with the decision
yep, yours and Carra (?) posts are what helped with the decision
In reply to Post #21
having brought some 90's spec Daiwa Powermesh 2.25lb 11ft a decent low TC blank is soo enjoyable
shame not more mainstream
having brought some 90's spec Daiwa Powermesh 2.25lb 11ft a decent low TC blank is soo enjoyable
shame not more mainstream
In reply to Post #32
What reels have you paired them with mate?
What reels have you paired them with mate?
In reply to Post #37
Daiwa GS4000 pair up great with them that's what I have have on mine
Daiwa GS4000 pair up great with them that's what I have have on mine
In reply to Post #37
8000 baitrunners will be on mine
8000 baitrunners will be on mine
In reply to Post #32
How would you fancy these with an angry mid-30 on the end? Under-gunned, or capable..?
How would you fancy these with an angry mid-30 on the end? Under-gunned, or capable..?
In reply to Post #40
Very capable rods
Very capable rods
Don't worry about short rods, worry more about a soft action and fairly low test curve - barbel rods are your kiddy
In reply to Post #37
Shimano xte 10,000 superbaitrunners, and some sexy single handles from felindre
Shimano xte 10,000 superbaitrunners, and some sexy single handles from felindre
In reply to Post #40
Capable.
They feel forgiving but the middle and into the butt section has some steel so they never feels floppy.
Im only casting 2-3oz leads and small mesh bags, occasionally lobbing solid bags but can't do a serious cast with large solids.
I usually fish 5-50 yards but can manage about 75yds, and this is with 15lb mino, so 12lb would help a bit if needed.
Capable.
They feel forgiving but the middle and into the butt section has some steel so they never feels floppy.
Im only casting 2-3oz leads and small mesh bags, occasionally lobbing solid bags but can't do a serious cast with large solids.
I usually fish 5-50 yards but can manage about 75yds, and this is with 15lb mino, so 12lb would help a bit if needed.
In reply to Post #43
They sound great - I'm currently specc'ing an 11ft soft rod set up (have had 10ft GT4 and ci4 5500s in the past which were great, but I sold them them to buy long range kit).
Do you happen to know which single handles are the ones that fit the Super Baitrunners please? I was wondering if the ones from the medium baitrunner XTA might fit?
Either that or go for the new Aero baitrunner X 8000s.... decisions, decisions!
They sound great - I'm currently specc'ing an 11ft soft rod set up (have had 10ft GT4 and ci4 5500s in the past which were great, but I sold them them to buy long range kit).
Do you happen to know which single handles are the ones that fit the Super Baitrunners please? I was wondering if the ones from the medium baitrunner XTA might fit?
Either that or go for the new Aero baitrunner X 8000s.... decisions, decisions!
Hi folks
I'm looking at getting some Chub Small Water 11ft 2.25lb rods, but noticed Greys do a similar GT2 model. Has anyone seen the greys model in the flesh and could share your thoughts please?
It's definitely an 11 footer I'm after. Sadly can't stretch to the Harrisons just yet 😬
From memory both companys have the same owner, so I'm guessing they may even be the same blank.
I'm looking at getting some Chub Small Water 11ft 2.25lb rods, but noticed Greys do a similar GT2 model. Has anyone seen the greys model in the flesh and could share your thoughts please?
It's definitely an 11 footer I'm after. Sadly can't stretch to the Harrisons just yet 😬
From memory both companys have the same owner, so I'm guessing they may even be the same blank.
In reply to Post #46
Forget short, too many people try short rods and find that they feel really weird, can't cast, and they don't like them.
I invested in some 10 footers which turned into a very expensive rebuild project but within weeks they ended up in a charity shop for £20 each as I just couldn't stand them and found them horrible to use. (Trust me a lot of 8,9, 10 footers end up on ebay) - 11 footers are nice though, used to be a popular length back in the day - but the fact is that 12 footers are really nice to play fish on and make casting a lot easier as well.
The best small water fish playing rod, (which will be more than adequate for a huge variety of other lakes and any different sizes of carp), is a 2.75lb Daiwa Whisker DF
They are UK made and an absolute dream to play fish on.
They are not bad casting rods but the action is much more about fish playing. I wouldn't hesitate to use them again as my only set even though I use more pricey Infinities, (and they can be found for as little as £100)..
The blanks are in a different league to a lot of the paper thin cheap rods about.
Forget short, too many people try short rods and find that they feel really weird, can't cast, and they don't like them.
I invested in some 10 footers which turned into a very expensive rebuild project but within weeks they ended up in a charity shop for £20 each as I just couldn't stand them and found them horrible to use. (Trust me a lot of 8,9, 10 footers end up on ebay) - 11 footers are nice though, used to be a popular length back in the day - but the fact is that 12 footers are really nice to play fish on and make casting a lot easier as well.
The best small water fish playing rod, (which will be more than adequate for a huge variety of other lakes and any different sizes of carp), is a 2.75lb Daiwa Whisker DF
They are UK made and an absolute dream to play fish on.
They are not bad casting rods but the action is much more about fish playing. I wouldn't hesitate to use them again as my only set even though I use more pricey Infinities, (and they can be found for as little as £100)..
The blanks are in a different league to a lot of the paper thin cheap rods about.
In reply to Post #47
Its all down to personal preference...You had a bad experience with a set you bought..Thought an expensive rebuild would rectify the issue( rarely if ever does a rebuild rectify an inherent problem, as its often down to the blank.. or the users casting action.) got your fingers burnt when it failed then saw them going for a song.... Its going to leave you bitter and twisted and totally against them! Most of us who use them do so for a couple of reasons..boat use/ fish generally smaller waters where a 60yd cast is close to max' needed range/restricted back swing prohibiting use of longer rods/ transportation or a combo of these.
You state they don't cast...strange that I can manage to hit a measured 100yrds with my 10ft 3.5's and i'm not a big hitter by any means...Sure there are others on here able to do the same
As for stating your choice of 2.75 DF being the best choice bar none is ..your opinion..not fact. Yes they're a capable rod, but not for everyone...Some might prefer a barbel/softer rod as per your post #42 where you contradict your own comment that a DF 2.75 is the best....
Its all down to personal preference...You had a bad experience with a set you bought..Thought an expensive rebuild would rectify the issue( rarely if ever does a rebuild rectify an inherent problem, as its often down to the blank.. or the users casting action.) got your fingers burnt when it failed then saw them going for a song.... Its going to leave you bitter and twisted and totally against them! Most of us who use them do so for a couple of reasons..boat use/ fish generally smaller waters where a 60yd cast is close to max' needed range/restricted back swing prohibiting use of longer rods/ transportation or a combo of these.
You state they don't cast...strange that I can manage to hit a measured 100yrds with my 10ft 3.5's and i'm not a big hitter by any means...Sure there are others on here able to do the same
As for stating your choice of 2.75 DF being the best choice bar none is ..your opinion..not fact. Yes they're a capable rod, but not for everyone...Some might prefer a barbel/softer rod as per your post #42 where you contradict your own comment that a DF 2.75 is the best....
No my problem, as I explained, is that short rods are absolutely horrible to use
The ones I got were high end, there was nothing wrong with the blanks whatsoever - you're talking to a trained rod builder mate
They will suit you though - so enjoy
Barbel rods will be great - but my thinking (as I explained) is that the Whisker will also suit a huge variety of different venues
Thanks for calling me bitter and twisted
You obviously know me really well from internet screen experience. Did you meet you wife like that as well!?
PS I could cast 100 yards with a broken pool cue so I'm not quite sure that's much of a boast
In reply to Post #48
Had no problems with my 10ft rods except I think the shorter handle makes them feel odd
Had no problems with my 10ft rods except I think the shorter handle makes them feel odd
In reply to Post #50
I've just done a quick comparison of some of my rods and the length does seem to vary a bit depending on manufacturer. I've an 8 ft with a short handle that as you say does feel a bit odd.
The 10 ft tfg compact and my other 10 ft rods are only about an inch shorter to the reel seat than my 12 ft Diawa's but I've never really noticed the difference when I made the change.
I must admit to be puzzled about the negative comments about using shorter rods. I've used rods from 8 to 13 ft for different situations but if space allows then any of my 10 ft rods would be my preferred option for a few reasons.
Rod blanks and builds obviously do vary but before buying I always do some research and select an action/ blank that should be to my liking and suit my requirements.
I've just done a quick comparison of some of my rods and the length does seem to vary a bit depending on manufacturer. I've an 8 ft with a short handle that as you say does feel a bit odd.
The 10 ft tfg compact and my other 10 ft rods are only about an inch shorter to the reel seat than my 12 ft Diawa's but I've never really noticed the difference when I made the change.
I must admit to be puzzled about the negative comments about using shorter rods. I've used rods from 8 to 13 ft for different situations but if space allows then any of my 10 ft rods would be my preferred option for a few reasons.
Rod blanks and builds obviously do vary but before buying I always do some research and select an action/ blank that should be to my liking and suit my requirements.
Good post
Rods are quite personal and you have to get to know them and get used to them as well
I was a bit blunt earlier when my word of warning should have been that a 9 footer can feel very awkward and weird if you are used to using 12 footers for many years
I still don't like stubby rods - they are unkind to carp's gobs with far too much torque going into the hookhold - I would only consider using a soft one with a stretchy line (if I had to, which won't happen)
In reply to Post #56
I nice 9ft 2.25 or 2.5tc would be my choice
I nice 9ft 2.25 or 2.5tc would be my choice
Thread tidied
In reply to Post #45
I got some of these from felindre.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Single-handle-to-fit-Shimano-XTE-XTEA-XTR-RA-XT-RB-SET-OF-3-
RD0010/153593329399
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RD0010-Single-handle-to-fit-Shimano-Super-Baitrunner-XTE-XTEA-XTR-RA-RB/153692602419
I got some of these from felindre.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Single-handle-to-fit-Shimano-XTE-XTEA-XTR-RA-XT-RB-SET-OF-3-
RD0010/153593329399
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RD0010-Single-handle-to-fit-Shimano-Super-Baitrunner-XTE-XTEA-XTR-RA-RB/153692602419
In reply to Post #78
Thanks mate, much appreciated 👍🏻
Thanks mate, much appreciated 👍🏻
In reply to Post #52
I don't like them either mate and found them awkward and brutal to use
There is no need for short rods, even on small venues
If the swim has overhanging trees you shouldn't be fishing it in the first place
All my rods are 12ft apart from some spinning and pier rods I own
I don't like them either mate and found them awkward and brutal to use
There is no need for short rods, even on small venues
If the swim has overhanging trees you shouldn't be fishing it in the first place
All my rods are 12ft apart from some spinning and pier rods I own
In reply to Post #80
Depends what you're used to???
When I was a kid, most of our fishing was done on 6' spinning rods. (it's all we could afford lol!), but as we got older we progressed on to 9 or 10' leger rods.
I now limit myself to 11 footers. I just feel happier with a slightly shorter rod in my hand.
I've tried 12 footers in the past, but I just can't get on with them. I can be a little more accurate with an 11 footer, and feel more in contact with the fish when playing them.
If I wanted more distance on a regular basis then I might buy 12 footers and persevere with them, but the maximum chuck for me is about 50 or 60 yards, and I can easily cope with this with my slightly shorter rods.
And as for your comment about overhanging trees, and not fishing it in the first place??
There's stalking gone out the window for a lot of anglers.....one of the best and most rewarding styles of fishing. Much more preferable than luzzing a bait out 120 yards and sitting behind an alarm or three.
Depends what you're used to???
When I was a kid, most of our fishing was done on 6' spinning rods. (it's all we could afford lol!), but as we got older we progressed on to 9 or 10' leger rods.
I now limit myself to 11 footers. I just feel happier with a slightly shorter rod in my hand.
I've tried 12 footers in the past, but I just can't get on with them. I can be a little more accurate with an 11 footer, and feel more in contact with the fish when playing them.
If I wanted more distance on a regular basis then I might buy 12 footers and persevere with them, but the maximum chuck for me is about 50 or 60 yards, and I can easily cope with this with my slightly shorter rods.
And as for your comment about overhanging trees, and not fishing it in the first place??
There's stalking gone out the window for a lot of anglers.....one of the best and most rewarding styles of fishing. Much more preferable than luzzing a bait out 120 yards and sitting behind an alarm or three.
In reply to Post #80
If the swim has overhanging trees you shouldn't be fishing it in the first place
Trees around lakes should all be ripped up, bloody eyesore that just get in the way.
If the swim has overhanging trees you shouldn't be fishing it in the first place
Trees around lakes should all be ripped up, bloody eyesore that just get in the way.
In reply to Post #81
Having spent many years spinning when I was younger I don't mind shorter rods. I don't get why they are so pokey though. I am looking at some 9 foot 2.75 scopes what's the action like. I have played with most scopes in a shop and they just feel so stiff. However the 9 foots do pack down small enough to be stashed on a top shelf in my van ready for the odd quiet day at work (when we're allowed out again!).
Having spent many years spinning when I was younger I don't mind shorter rods. I don't get why they are so pokey though. I am looking at some 9 foot 2.75 scopes what's the action like. I have played with most scopes in a shop and they just feel so stiff. However the 9 foots do pack down small enough to be stashed on a top shelf in my van ready for the odd quiet day at work (when we're allowed out again!).
In reply to Post #82
I much prefer electricity pylons.
I much prefer electricity pylons.
In reply to Post #83
Not sure how important pack down length is to you, but if you can, have a look at the tfg compact commercials already mentioned, they are definitely worth considering and I'm sure you would be surprised how good they are.
10 ft 2.5 lb but they have a very soft through action. Even a small carp will put a decent bend in them and they seem to perform like a lighter rod until you need more power.
All my “proper” lakes have trees surrounding them and most swims have restricted access so for me
10ft rods are ideal. There are different situations and opinions obviously but certainly my 12 ft rods would limit my choice of swim.
Not sure how important pack down length is to you, but if you can, have a look at the tfg compact commercials already mentioned, they are definitely worth considering and I'm sure you would be surprised how good they are.
10 ft 2.5 lb but they have a very soft through action. Even a small carp will put a decent bend in them and they seem to perform like a lighter rod until you need more power.
All my “proper” lakes have trees surrounding them and most swims have restricted access so for me
10ft rods are ideal. There are different situations and opinions obviously but certainly my 12 ft rods would limit my choice of swim.
In reply to Post #82
I meant overhanging as in obscuring the casting potential of a normal, proper 12ft rod
(very obviously indeed)
I meant overhanging as in obscuring the casting potential of a normal, proper 12ft rod
(very obviously indeed)
In reply to Post #86
I have had a pair of Century S1 for over ten years and love them.
I use them in tight swims or if I fish the river on a footpath.
I use them with my SS3000's so can cast 80/90 yards if I want but usually only margin fishing , they bend all the way through have enough back bone to stop what I catch.
Realy realy like them.
I have had a pair of Century S1 for over ten years and love them.
I use them in tight swims or if I fish the river on a footpath.
I use them with my SS3000's so can cast 80/90 yards if I want but usually only margin fishing , they bend all the way through have enough back bone to stop what I catch.
Realy realy like them.
In reply to Post #86
So any water with overhanging trees should not be fished,if you can't use a normal,proper 12ft rod.Why is that
So any water with overhanging trees should not be fished,if you can't use a normal,proper 12ft rod.Why is that
In reply to Post #86
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
In reply to Post #44
Update on the solid pva bag capabilities of the tfg 10ft 2.5lb compact carp...
I fished a new water last night and blanked, but decided to whang out a couple of solid bags as it was 10ft deep.
I had the marker out at about 65-70 yards and i easily launched a 4" × 2" bag that was tightly packed and neatly folded.
2.5oz lead, 15lb line and shimano xte reel.
Update on the solid pva bag capabilities of the tfg 10ft 2.5lb compact carp...
I fished a new water last night and blanked, but decided to whang out a couple of solid bags as it was 10ft deep.
I had the marker out at about 65-70 yards and i easily launched a 4" × 2" bag that was tightly packed and neatly folded.
2.5oz lead, 15lb line and shimano xte reel.
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