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Cyprinus fast and light (106 posts / 20,473 views)
Smj1
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Post #1 5 Jan 2018 08:32
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Since the aqua camo f&L came out I wanted it but already had the green so wasn't going
to spend the extra money. A mate offered good money for my f&L and I seen cyprinus had
released a camo version so I sold mine and bought it hoping it would be of good quality as
It was half the price of the aqua version.
Well to cut a long story short it is exactly the same brolly down to the hold-all bag and the pegs.
I bought the overwrap and even that came in the same trakker box that my aqua wrap was
delivered it. The only difference I can see is the storm poles.
I know we all pay a bit of carp tax but aqua charging over twice the price for the same product
Is not on. That's the last time I buy anything aqua and I'm going to be more careful with
what carp gear I spend my hard earned on from now on.
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #2 5 Jan 2018 08:37
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In reply to Post #1
I hope your mate doesn't find out he could have bought a new green one for about £75 !!
Skear Skear
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Post #3 5 Jan 2018 08:38
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In reply to Post #1
I think a few, are of the same opinion now mate
carpie25 carpie25
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Post #4 5 Jan 2018 09:09
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I got the Brolly system and I can echo it being the same , the only difference is the badge on the Brolly and bag and don't have the small logo on the groundsheet to tell it is the front,the storm poles are exactly the same as Aqua
Smj1
Posts: 264
Post #5 5 Jan 2018 09:12
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In reply to Post #4
I've got a little cyprinus badge on the front of my groundsheet mate. And my storm poles are definitely different to the ones I bought from aqua
SlugHunter SlugHunter
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Post #6 5 Jan 2018 09:19
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In reply to Post #5
Would the aqua storm poles fit...?
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #7 5 Jan 2018 09:20
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In reply to Post #5
I think it's because you have the newer mk2 camo brolly. The system is the older style aqua mk1 ninth rib so slightly different.
Wayne Wayne
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Post #8 5 Jan 2018 10:01
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So glad people are seeing the light......
Skear Skear
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Post #9 5 Jan 2018 10:52
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In reply to Post #8
I'll just correct that for you Wayne:

So glad people are seeing the Fast light......

dance smiley02
gillm gillm
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Post #10 5 Jan 2018 11:39
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In reply to Post #9
Thing is they don't make a green mk2 with the space saver frame , which imho is the best of the bunch
Mistabite
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Post #11 5 Jan 2018 12:38
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In reply to Post #10
I wanted a green one, but with people still asking 200 quid or more secondhand for an aqua one its actually a strange situation...
Smj1
Posts: 264
Post #12 5 Jan 2018 15:12
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In reply to Post #8
Your right Wayne from now on I'm going to go for the smaller companies for my gear
Such as cyprinus and saber
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #13 5 Jan 2018 21:27
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In reply to Post #10
I emailed cyprinus a while back to ask if they planned to release a green compact m3 and green mk2 fast and light. They replied saying there was no plans to do so at the moment. Shame, I prefer green over dpm.
gillm gillm
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Post #14 6 Jan 2018 14:16
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In reply to Post #13
Same that's why I bought a mk2 green f&l but I must say the quality isn't as good as my mk1 , fingers crossed it will be ok . I was out last night in it at -2 lol
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #15 6 Jan 2018 14:47
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In reply to Post #14
So the aqua quality has dropped between mk1 and mk2?

And what the hell are you doing under a brolly in -2 !!
gillm gillm
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Post #16 6 Jan 2018 15:31
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In reply to Post #15
I think there is a difference in quality . Don't get me wrong they are very good ,leagues ahead of many manufacturers but I think my mk1 is better made

Time will tell I guess !

In answer to your minus 2 question - catching fish ( a mid 30 mirror to start the year off with 😎
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #17 6 Jan 2018 15:49
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bowlsky bowlsky
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Post #18 6 Jan 2018 16:01
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In reply to Post #16
Good angling 👍
weimaraner weimaraner
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Post #19 6 Jan 2018 18:22
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In reply to Post #16
I know someone who use to work as an agent for cypher, he told me that the trakker and aqua products were made in the same factories, the only difference was they paid more for the aqua products due to better
Quality controls. I can believe this as every trakker shelter I've owned has had a fault.
Smj1
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Post #20 6 Jan 2018 19:30
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In reply to Post #14
What part of the mk2 do you find isn't as good mate?
gillm gillm
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Post #21 6 Jan 2018 19:48
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In reply to Post #20
The material seems thinner and the frame seems a bit less sturdy . Nothing really to worry about
ip100 ip100
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Post #22 6 Jan 2018 21:11
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In reply to Post #19
Trakker and aqua are the same company....
weimaraner weimaraner
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Post #23 6 Jan 2018 22:27
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In reply to Post #22
I know that, as I said cypher. Someone said earlier the fast and light seemed better quality/built. Probably due to lower qc but the same product.
Notts485
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Post #24 12 Jan 2018 23:30
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In reply to Post #23
Didnt need a new brolly but at a new price of 125 could not leave it.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #25 12 Jan 2018 23:40
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In reply to Post #19
Aqua also use a better aquatexx material than trakker
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #26 13 Jan 2018 08:04
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In reply to Post #25
I agree 100% with you that used to be the case, I. Not so sure anymore. Browns angling in Leighton buzzard has a pretty big area for bivvys where they are permanently set up and you can compare like for like. They had a tempest air, an aqua compact m3 and an aqua mk2 fastlight all set up. A quick wander around them showed there's very little of any differences between the latest trakker quality and the latest aqua quality. If anything the tempest air material felt heavier weight than the mk2 fast light.
stuart666 stuart666
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Post #27 13 Jan 2018 10:39
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I watched two brand new cyprinus fast and light on ebay yesterday and they both sold for £70 so bit of a bargain.
kizzi
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Post #28 13 Jan 2018 11:13
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In reply to Post #27
In my experience with the Mk1, make a bid over £70. If you don't win they will then contact you later and offer you the chance to buy at that price
carpfather1 carpfather1
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Post #29 13 Jan 2018 12:08
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In reply to Post #28
Ive looked on eBay and can never find them bidding as low as £70 currently watching a camo fast and light and it's up to £126
stuart666 stuart666
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Post #30 13 Jan 2018 12:15
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In reply to Post #29
It was the green version that went for £70 plus £10 postage. There on at £99 eith a buy it now from the same shop with free postage.
bmthman bmthman
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Post #31 13 Jan 2018 12:32
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So I suppose the Rapide at £109 is the same as the Fast & Light just green rather than Dpm?
oldblueboy
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Post #32 13 Jan 2018 12:52
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In reply to Post #29
I got a Camo fast and light for £123 last Wednesday , and well happy, look on the other dpm thread for a few reviews, and it has the space saver frame, so no head hitting the pole, the green fast and light doesn't have a space saver frame, that's the difference between the two, and the cost
well other than the colour , ones plane and the others Camo
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #33 13 Jan 2018 13:05
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In reply to Post #32
The camo is the mk2 version. As well as the space saver frame it also has slightly larger sides which improves the cover a little.
stuart666 stuart666
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Post #34 13 Jan 2018 15:23
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In reply to Post #31
Yes it was a rapide but they look identical only green. Seen another go for £56 so even cheaper.
stuart666 stuart666
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Post #35 13 Jan 2018 15:24
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In reply to Post #32
The green ones i was watching both had a space saver frame.
Goose Goose
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Post #36 13 Jan 2018 16:08
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In reply to Post #32
Cyprinus call the it rapide mk2 .
Bivvybug Bivvybug
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Post #37 13 Jan 2018 16:34
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In reply to Post #36
Mk 2 green has space saver frame I think
gillm gillm
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Post #38 13 Jan 2018 20:44
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In reply to Post #37
All the ones I've seen do not have the space saver frame
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #39 14 Jan 2018 01:40
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In reply to Post #35
I the rapide 55 green is a Mk1 fast and light. It does not have a space saver frame. I own one and can post up pics if you want to see one.

The camo is a mk2 and has the space saver. There is currently no cyprinus mk2 in green. Same as there is no compact m3 (dpm4) in green, only camo.
stuart666 stuart666
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Post #40 14 Jan 2018 10:23
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In reply to Post #39
It was called a 55” rapide but they all look the same in the photos. Never seen one in the flesh so just going of the photos they put on the listing.
kizzi
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Post #41 14 Jan 2018 11:15
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In reply to Post #35
The green ones have the space saver frame in the pictures only .... presumably using Aqua pictures with brand logos photoshopped.

I was OK with this as I knew (from the forum) that this was the case when I ordered.

I guess a braver man than I am could order it, then argue that the goods were not as promised and accept a replacement Camo with space saver frame.
Goose Goose
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Post #42 14 Jan 2018 11:47
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In reply to Post #39
https://www.cyprinus.co.uk/collections/umbrella-brolly-systems/products/rapide-mk2-55-brolly-sytem
Casey
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Post #43 14 Jan 2018 12:27
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In reply to Post #42
That brolly you linked to doesn't have the space saver frame.

The Cyprinus Rapide Mk2 55” Brolly features both extended storm sides and added wings.

Specifications

Performance grade 20,000HH Fully waterproof Hydro-Tec material
Ninth rib system
Extended storm sides
Machined aluminium bell cap with tie down ring
High quality ground sheet included as standard
Stealthy black powder coated fittings
Rod retaining straps
Comes with a light weight storage sleeve
Set of 24" Magnetic Storm Poles included
Footprint: 2480mm (w) x 1850mm (d)
Height 1350mm
Brolly Weight: 4.5kg
Weight including sleeve.


only the the camo one does on the cyprinus website.

Comes complete with ground sheet

Space Saver frame system

Ninth rib system
Now with high-performance Heavy Duty DPM Camo Hydro-Tec Material
Multi directional machined brass storm caps
Extended storm sides
Hi tensile powder coated steel frame
All 4 rear spars touch the ground
Machined aluminum bell cap with tie down ring
Rod retaining straps
Comes complete with pegs and a light weight storage sleeve

If you go to the Aqua website they list there mk2 brolly with a space saver frame, some of the adverts on the Bay have used the Aqua photos to list the cyprinus brolly,s.
roman
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Post #44 14 Jan 2018 12:30
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Is the Cyprinus swift light 60, sold by gbangling the aqua fast lite 55 system?
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #45 14 Jan 2018 15:59
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In reply to Post #44
No.
Wayne Wayne
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Post #46 14 Jan 2018 16:19
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In reply to Post #44
Swiftlight is the MK1 full brolly system with front etc......
roman
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Post #47 14 Jan 2018 17:57
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In reply to Post #46
clicky clicky
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Post #48 14 Jan 2018 18:48
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my cyprinus fnl dpm had a small grub screw and Allan key in the bag when it turned up, anyone know what its for.
Jaspertinto
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Post #49 14 Jan 2018 19:08
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In reply to Post #48
A spare for the storm caps?
Goose Goose
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Post #50 14 Jan 2018 20:30
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In reply to Post #48
Shouldn't have been in there, it's the screw loose mentioned when people pay the premium for the aqua version.
Skear Skear
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Post #51 14 Jan 2018 20:38
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In reply to Post #50
Now that's good

On a serious note, i once bought a Trakker oval brolley many years back, the centre boss had an alloy cap, that was held on with a smally grub screw. They put a spare and an Allen key in with it.
weimaraner weimaraner
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Post #52 17 Jan 2018 17:47
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Cyprinus have changed the name of the brolly to Helios.

In the first statement .....


Due to pressure from Aqua products (a more expensive brand) we've had to change the name.
But only the name! Everything else is the same!
You decide who's thinking of their customers. 😂
Wayne Wayne
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Post #53 17 Jan 2018 17:53
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In reply to Post #52
Just plays into Cyprinus hands......
Andy_P Andy_P
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Post #54 17 Jan 2018 18:29
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In reply to Post #52
Here is the link
bushman bushman
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Post #55 17 Jan 2018 19:28
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In reply to Post #54
So is it only the camo version that has the space saver frame? Or neither of them?
james007pond james007pond
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Post #56 17 Jan 2018 19:40
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In reply to Post #55
Yes mate think just the camo version
bowlsky bowlsky
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Post #57 17 Jan 2018 20:07
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I had the same email . I thought it was brilliant !!

So the camo version has a space saver frame ??
james007pond james007pond
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Post #58 17 Jan 2018 20:35
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In reply to Post #57
From what I've read from on here it has
dickweed dickweed
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Post #59 17 Jan 2018 20:40
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In reply to Post #54
Shame they don't think of there customers when it costs customers 40p to minute to call there sales line. (from a mobile).
Carp-man76 Carp-man76
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Post #60 17 Jan 2018 20:46
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In reply to Post #59
That's no different to plenty of big companies out there
clicky clicky
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Post #61 17 Jan 2018 20:48
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In reply to Post #50
thats handy.ill stick the grub screw and Allan key on the bay stating aqua spares..£30
Wayne Wayne
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Post #62 17 Jan 2018 21:04
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In reply to Post #58
Green one is mk1 and doesn't have SS frame......DPM Camo one is the MK2 and does have the SS frame......
bowlsky bowlsky
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Post #63 17 Jan 2018 21:16
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In reply to Post #62
Notts485
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Post #64 18 Jan 2018 15:12
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In reply to Post #63
Got mine today first class and aqua quality but different badge came with lightweight groundsheet and storm rods. Also centre pole. There is a short bar in there as well any idea what this is.
Jaspertinto
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Post #65 18 Jan 2018 15:22
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In reply to Post #64
Also got mine today - unfortunately there are several pin holes in the material by one of the struts so it will have to go back. Not obvious from the outside but clear from inside & would certainly let rain in.

The material does feel flimsy & I would be interested to see if it is the same as the Green Fast & Lights. Concerned the material could get easily damaged - it is certainly thinner than my early Aqua 60" brolly.

Only short bar I had was an allen key for tightening the storm pole fixings. Also one of the black plastic protectors had popped off the frame, which may have caused the damage I mention.
Notts485
Posts: 535
Post #66 18 Jan 2018 15:37
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In reply to Post #65
May be but bout a foot long not had chance to put up but opened in garage no problems with material same as tbe aqua model
Jaspertinto
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Post #67 18 Jan 2018 15:51
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In reply to Post #66
I don't suppose it is the inside of one of the storm poles?
r0bertb00th r0bertb00th
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Post #68 18 Jan 2018 15:57
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In reply to Post #67
Its probably the bar that you can screw in to the centre boss - i.e a brolly pole (You get them with a f&l) there not necesary to be honest
Notts485
Posts: 535
Post #69 18 Jan 2018 18:19
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In reply to Post #67
Lol what a utter plonker lol. Never looked at the storm rods and yes it is one of them. Decent storm rods as well
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #70 18 Jan 2018 18:28
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In reply to Post #65
Hi Matt

I was fishing with a mate of mine who owned the green mk1 aqua version for a couple of years. My cyprinus was set up. He confirmed it's identical.

If you bought the dpm mk2 version then the material is thinner, but again it's the same as the aqua camo. I've seen that in the flesh and it's definitely thinner on the mk2 than the mk1.

Bummer you've got a duff one. Mines been out in proper rain and it's been bone dry. I guess with any of this stuff they'll be odd ones that are iffy. Doesn't make it any less aggro for you though.
carpfather1 carpfather1
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Post #71 18 Jan 2018 18:29
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I been watching a few on eBay ,what weight is the camo ?isit lightweight ?i was thinking about one for day sessions and the odd quick overnightner
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #72 18 Jan 2018 18:31
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In reply to Post #65
Crispy had the heritage 60 for a while. I saw that set up. The material was heavier weight than the fast and light. But the heritage wasn't fast or light so I guess the deliberately lighten it up for the smaller f&l.
carpfather1 carpfather1
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Post #73 18 Jan 2018 18:57
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In reply to Post #72
It's the camo fast and light I'm thinking of so wouldn't mind knowing the weight is it a heavy beast like a supabrolly or a lot lighter
Jaspertinto
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Post #74 18 Jan 2018 19:15
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In reply to Post #73
Its much lighter. I cycled home from work carrying it in one hand, although I had taken the pegs & groundsheet out. If I get a chance later ill weigh just the brolly.
dickweed dickweed
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Post #75 18 Jan 2018 21:31
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4.5kg I think.
bluebeat13
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Post #76 19 Jan 2018 13:01
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In reply to Post #75
That's not light
bmthman bmthman
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Post #77 20 Jan 2018 10:10
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There are green mk2 rapids on EBay now, but doesn't mention space saver frame?
Mistabite
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Post #78 20 Jan 2018 11:24
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In reply to Post #77
Those have always been called the mk2 rapide in green. I have bought both mk2 rapide (sent back due to issues) and a dpm. Cyprinus have confirmed there is no green brolly with space saver on the horizon.
Jaspertinto
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Post #79 20 Jan 2018 14:24
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In reply to Post #73
Just weighed it - it is 4.5kg on its own.
Dimbers Dimbers
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Post #80 20 Jan 2018 22:50
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In reply to Post #79
The world's gone mad. I bought a Cyprinus fast n light a few weeks ago, suitably impressed. Went to buy the over wrap in dpm in time for Spring and just found someone on eBay selling the Aqua ones cheaper than the Cyprinus ones, £30 cheaper. £100 delivered. Happy days
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #81 20 Jan 2018 23:35
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In reply to Post #80
Thats a great price
r0bertb00th r0bertb00th
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Post #82 21 Jan 2018 12:36
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In reply to Post #80
Got a link for the aqua wrap @ £100
Dimbers Dimbers
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Post #83 21 Jan 2018 15:11
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In reply to Post #82
Might have been a small retailer with a just a couple for sale at £100 as they've now vanished. New listing today for the Aqua f&l dpm wrap that someone offering at £111.99 delivered !! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AQUA-FAST-LIGHT-OVERWRAP-CAMO-402113/192270006859?epid=2256076212&hash=item2cc42f7a4b:g:yycAAOSwIwJZiHwy
Notts485
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Post #84 24 Jan 2018 16:58
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In reply to Post #83
The box mine came in has got aqua fast and light stickers on it with even aqua phone number
compo_85 compo_85
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Post #85 24 Jan 2018 22:11
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In reply to Post #83
Good luck getting that pal 🙁 it's from fishing republic, from what's been said on here they've gone down the pan 👎🏻 Been loads of people still waiting for their Black Friday deals to still be delivered.
chester1 chester1
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Post #86 16 Oct 2018 20:29
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Sorry to bring this up again but could someone explain. So the Rapide mk2 and the Helios are the same as each other, other than the fact the Rapide is camo and has the space saver thing? Are they the same shape?
Is the space saver just a headroom thing?
Goldeneye Goldeneye
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Post #87 17 Oct 2018 12:41
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In reply to Post #86
I think you meant the Helios is camo and has the space saver....

I have the same questions though - along with is the Helios worth an extra £50???
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #88 17 Oct 2018 13:45
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In reply to Post #86
Rapide is the same as the mk1 fast and light and is the one I posted pics of. It does not have the space saver frame.

The camo helios is the same as a mk2 fast and light and does have the space saver.

Whether it's worth the extra is a personal choice. I only use mine for days only and I'm hobbit sized so no issue for me. I guess in the rapide, if the weather was dodgy and you had to pull it really low then the center boss might be an issue if you had a bedchair underneath and wanted to sit in the middle.
chester1 chester1
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Post #89 17 Oct 2018 19:59
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In reply to Post #88
Cheers lads. Messaged Cyprinus on Facebook and they said it's only really the space saver thing that's different (and the colour obviously). Think I'm going for the understated version, ironically the camo seems a bit conspicuous
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #90 17 Oct 2018 20:29
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In reply to Post #89
I know what u mean. I have the rapide in green and the dpm4 which is obviously camo. I think the dpm4 is great for the money but I'd like it a hell of a lot more if it was in aqua green instead.
chester1 chester1
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Post #91 17 Oct 2018 21:53
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In reply to Post #90
So just to double check......both the Helios and Rapide look identical from the outside?
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #92 17 Oct 2018 22:29
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In reply to Post #91
Yeah I'm pretty sure they do, apart from the material
chester1 chester1
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Post #93 18 Oct 2018 11:04
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In reply to Post #92
Thanks for your help!
Steveo_Hants
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Post #94 13 May 2019 19:11
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My Cyprinus mk2 turned up today and the threaded part at top of the storm polls pulls out and it's like there is a weak magnet to hold it, kind of like a quick release system. Is this normal? Definitely not very strong if you are in a head wind.
Jaspertinto
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Post #95 13 May 2019 20:09
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In reply to Post #94
Its normal. You would probably also have the brolly pegged down, hence the storm pole is actually only for support.
clicky clicky
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Post #96 13 May 2019 21:40
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In reply to Post #94
its meant to be like that for next time setting up just push storm poles on..
Steveo_Hants
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Post #97 13 May 2019 22:03
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In reply to Post #95
Ok thanks. I just thought it would be good to have it secure even when it's pegged down.
Spike Spike
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Post #98 13 May 2019 23:27
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Had mine a while and only the last few sessions I've used it. Brilliant brolly once you get used to it. Large Storm poles are a must at the front to have any real use out of it.

Centre end cap is crap cheap plastic. May try and source a spare just incase.
Notts485
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Post #99 14 May 2019 08:13
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In reply to Post #98
After a wrap for it ring Eric's angling I got mine for 120 posted.good brolly. But not as good as the jrc stealth m3.
Spike Spike
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Post #100 14 May 2019 09:02
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I think that tackle discounts do the wraps for £80 delivered ? Could be wrong

I use my bivvy and wrap if weathers bad. This will just be for dry nights mainly
innsy1976
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Post #101 31 May 2019 13:16
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In reply to Post #100
Hi

Does anybody know if the Aqua mozzi mesh will fit onto the Cyprinus DPM helios brolly version? I prefer the Aqua version of the mozzi mesh.

Thanks
dickweed dickweed
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Post #102 2 Jun 2019 02:01
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Not sure.

Selling my cyprinus DPM.

Sorry for the blatant plug but not been given the thumbs up yet to sell despite being a member for over a year with the relevant amounts of posts. No response from the mods either.
Mistabite
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Post #103 12 Aug 2019 19:25
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Does anyone know what the difference is between the fast and light overwrap and the V2 version that TFT are selling:

TFT link

Will the £59.99 one fit a cyprinus dpm 55' rapide with the space saver frame?
beephy beephy
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Post #104 12 Aug 2019 19:31
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In reply to Post #103
I took a punt and bought that fast & light wrap for my 60” MHR brolly and it fits almost perfectly
Notts485
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Post #105 16 Aug 2021 09:04
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In reply to Post #104
After 3 years of use. The plastic clips on the frame have over time slipped off and there are dozens of pin***** holes caused by the frame. Doesn't leak though but very bad design its happened every time one has come off. I have the full aqua wrap so no real issues but I wouldn't buy again.
Notts485
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Post #106 15 Apr 2022 21:04
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In reply to Post #101
My mozzi mesh fits my tempest as well. V2 Brolly system
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