Im just starting my river fishing journey, im fishing a small local river that is quite flooded and had problems as i cant hold bottom as expected with my 1oz feeder.
Im using a feeder rod so cant put 4oz on.
Every time i cast to far marging where the flow looked slower it would just bow round and end near marging.
Im fishing bread, meat and maggots going for chub and barbell but will take anything that comes my way.
Is there something i can do other than whip out my carp rods!?
Im using a feeder rod so cant put 4oz on.
Every time i cast to far marging where the flow looked slower it would just bow round and end near marging.
Im fishing bread, meat and maggots going for chub and barbell but will take anything that comes my way.
Is there something i can do other than whip out my carp rods!?
In reply to Post #1
If it's a small river are you keeping as much line out of the water as possible, right into the slack if possible, rod tips high? That's about your only option, I would say washing line if you can get to the other side but if expecting lots of bites it's not really viable.
I think you've already identified the situation, you have to fish to the conditions with the right equipment, heavier leads might mean heavier rods.
Are you sure you can't 'lob' larger weights? It's often done on rivers, as it's a small river you're not casting as such I assume.
If it's a small river are you keeping as much line out of the water as possible, right into the slack if possible, rod tips high? That's about your only option, I would say washing line if you can get to the other side but if expecting lots of bites it's not really viable.
I think you've already identified the situation, you have to fish to the conditions with the right equipment, heavier leads might mean heavier rods.
Are you sure you can't 'lob' larger weights? It's often done on rivers, as it's a small river you're not casting as such I assume.
In reply to Post #2
Yeah its small, im under arm chucking
Im using a 2lb if i remember correctly barbel feeder rod, the tip is so fine im not sure what it can take really
Edit
I just looked it up as i bought it ages ago, its..
12ft 2lb test curve supplied with one 3oz and one 4oz quiver tip.
Yeah its small, im under arm chucking
Im using a 2lb if i remember correctly barbel feeder rod, the tip is so fine im not sure what it can take really
Edit
I just looked it up as i bought it ages ago, its..
12ft 2lb test curve supplied with one 3oz and one 4oz quiver tip.
In reply to Post #1
Cast upstream and let out a big bow of line, same as uptiding in the sea.
Cast upstream and let out a big bow of line, same as uptiding in the sea.
Fish the crease between slow and fast water.
What lead setup are you using?
A 1oz feeder is no weight really and at this time of year the waters probably a fair bit higher than at other times where you might get away with a 1oz.
Use whatever feeder it takes to hold bottom that's your only option if as previously said, rod tips high and line out of water.
Is be fishing the inside slacks if it's that bad.
A 1oz feeder is no weight really and at this time of year the waters probably a fair bit higher than at other times where you might get away with a 1oz.
Use whatever feeder it takes to hold bottom that's your only option if as previously said, rod tips high and line out of water.
Is be fishing the inside slacks if it's that bad.
In reply to Post #1
Avon angling on YouTube has uploaded a video about river watercraft a month or so ago, quite good if you're new to it.
Avon angling on YouTube has uploaded a video about river watercraft a month or so ago, quite good if you're new to it.
In reply to Post #3
Should be able to go much heavier on weight, I use my greys barbel rod which is a 1.75 test curve with a 5oz gripper lead. Gripper lead definitely makes a difference in holding bottom.
Should be able to go much heavier on weight, I use my greys barbel rod which is a 1.75 test curve with a 5oz gripper lead. Gripper lead definitely makes a difference in holding bottom.
In reply to Post #8
I'm thinking the same now I know the rods. I would imagine you can easily gently lob much bigger weights than 1oz, emphasis on gently & progressive
I'm thinking the same now I know the rods. I would imagine you can easily gently lob much bigger weights than 1oz, emphasis on gently & progressive
In reply to Post #9
Easily, I've fished 3oz with big pva bags
Easily, I've fished 3oz with big pva bags
Cheers everyone, the rod tip is so flimsy, its quiver tip i think 🤷"♂ï¸
Im using a 30g feeder and have just bought some long bank sticks to get the rod tips high.
Id probably go 2oz but wouldn't go highter unless i swap to my 1.75lb tc carp rods
I'll definitely check that Avon film out later tonight!
Lots of learning to do when it comes to the river, cant wait until it pays off!
Im using a 30g feeder and have just bought some long bank sticks to get the rod tips high.
Id probably go 2oz but wouldn't go highter unless i swap to my 1.75lb tc carp rods
I'll definitely check that Avon film out later tonight!
Lots of learning to do when it comes to the river, cant wait until it pays off!
In reply to Post #4
This does'nt sound like it should work, but it really does.
Just make sure you're ready for drop-backs!
This does'nt sound like it should work, but it really does.
Just make sure you're ready for drop-backs!
Watched the avon film, tried a little of everything today, rod tips high, letting out a bow of line which surprisingly works but wasn't sure on bites as couldn't really see the line and the bites didnt really register on the tip.
I was using a size 10 and a bit of meat trying for chub with the chance of a barbel, tried multiple swims but no joy. I will persist!
Thanks everyone
I was using a size 10 and a bit of meat trying for chub with the chance of a barbel, tried multiple swims but no joy. I will persist!
Thanks everyone
In reply to Post #13
Go.much bigger with the hook. I used to use 4s and 6s for chub and barbel. With a little underarm flick you'll get away with using 3 or 4 ounces leads on any tip rod too
Go.much bigger with the hook. I used to use 4s and 6s for chub and barbel. With a little underarm flick you'll get away with using 3 or 4 ounces leads on any tip rod too
In reply to Post #14
I was using a size 8 but because i wasn't catching i went down, I'll try 6 or 8s again next time
If i use a lead, with meat on the hook is that all you fish? No free bait? Im guessing it all just goes down stream with the flow? Thats why ive been using a feeder and casting every 10mins
I was using a size 8 but because i wasn't catching i went down, I'll try 6 or 8s again next time
If i use a lead, with meat on the hook is that all you fish? No free bait? Im guessing it all just goes down stream with the flow? Thats why ive been using a feeder and casting every 10mins
In reply to Post #15
If I'm hair rigging I'll use a 6 or 8 hook usually wide gape. Running lead and at least 2ft hook link. With a pva mesh bag of boilie crumb which helps with tangle also
If I'm using meat or cheese paste around hook then at least size 6 hook.
If I'm hair rigging I'll use a 6 or 8 hook usually wide gape. Running lead and at least 2ft hook link. With a pva mesh bag of boilie crumb which helps with tangle also
If I'm using meat or cheese paste around hook then at least size 6 hook.
In reply to Post #15
Also sounds silly nut has the stretch got fish in...because some near me on Avon are barron and some are great
Also sounds silly nut has the stretch got fish in...because some near me on Avon are barron and some are great
In reply to Post #15
I'd use meat on a hair, and cut some bits of meat an inch square but only maybe half inch thick, and throw 4 or 5 of those around the general area. I'd use a good inch cube on the hair, that will bring them in. The thinner freebies Infront would hold bottom a bit better. I'd sometimes use a few large halibuts as loose feed too. Only a small handful
I'd use meat on a hair, and cut some bits of meat an inch square but only maybe half inch thick, and throw 4 or 5 of those around the general area. I'd use a good inch cube on the hair, that will bring them in. The thinner freebies Infront would hold bottom a bit better. I'd sometimes use a few large halibuts as loose feed too. Only a small handful
Yeah it has fish, but not packed full, i see one guy fishing for barbel and one for pike.
I thought hair rig was not ideal for chub due to the way they feed, being shy bites?
I thought hair rig was not ideal for chub due to the way they feed, being shy bites?
In reply to Post #19
Never stopped me catching them. I was never actually targeting them, just the barbel. On a couple of evenings I ended up packing up early because I couldn't get through them. Had them as small as under 2lb on the tactics I mentioned.
Never stopped me catching them. I was never actually targeting them, just the barbel. On a couple of evenings I ended up packing up early because I couldn't get through them. Had them as small as under 2lb on the tactics I mentioned.
In reply to Post #20
To be fair the only 2 chub ive ever caught was on a hair rig haha
I'll give it a try, the barbel guy i saw was fishing hair rig but with really long hairs to avoid chub
To be fair the only 2 chub ive ever caught was on a hair rig haha
I'll give it a try, the barbel guy i saw was fishing hair rig but with really long hairs to avoid chub
In reply to Post #15
I used to push a tin of luncheon meat through a maggot riddle and ram some of it into an open end feeder. It worked well on my small local rivers and on the Trent.
I used to push a tin of luncheon meat through a maggot riddle and ram some of it into an open end feeder. It worked well on my small local rivers and on the Trent.
In reply to Post #22
I've done very well on mini cubes of luncheon meat, in particle mixes feeders etc. You just prompted me to look for the Tilley Meat cutters I have, but he doesn't seem to make them anymore.
Edit, Ernie retired & no more available.
I've done very well on mini cubes of luncheon meat, in particle mixes feeders etc. You just prompted me to look for the Tilley Meat cutters I have, but he doesn't seem to make them anymore.
Edit, Ernie retired & no more available.
Marks spot on for me, letting line out is the key, cast out, feel the lead hit the bottom, lift your finger off the spool, pull the rod back and let a large loop of line out, let the current take it and let it all settle
Once you master that you can start to balance your feeder out so that a bite dislodges it and helps to hook the fish
Once you master that you can start to balance your feeder out so that a bite dislodges it and helps to hook the fish
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