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dannyuk32 dannyuk32
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#1 1 Jan 2023 17:54
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Since the Font change, I no longer see the Thumbs Up option for posts?
No big deal but it was a nice addition.
Many thanks to all you guys that keep the forum running.
Happy New Year to all.
Karlos Karlos
MODERATOR
Posts: 14,136
#2 1 Jan 2023 18:18
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In reply to Post #1
I lost that code when the server died (I should have backed it up but it was a quick couple hours coding I done on the live server/site)

I intend to redo it. I might make a like thumb AND a love heart option this time

Maybe I'll rewrite it tonight, have a few other bits to do first though
dannyuk32 dannyuk32
Posts: 1,477
#3 2 Jan 2023 17:35
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In reply to Post #2
Thanks Karlos.
Whenever you can\if you can. No rush.
RKB
Posts: 1,731
#4 3 Jan 2023 18:04
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In reply to Post #2
Instead of a heart, perhaps you could have a downwards thumb.
framey framey
Posts: 5,316
#5 3 Jan 2023 18:12
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In reply to Post #4
Can't do that
Someone may get upset lol
RKB
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#6 4 Jan 2023 08:37
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In reply to Post #5
*thumbs down*
Karlos Karlos
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#7 4 Jan 2023 15:22
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In reply to Post #5
Indeed...I didn't want to encourage negativity ... we can use Facebook for those slanging matches!

Would any other icons be useful though (focusing on the positive...)
Heart - "I love this reply"
Thumb - "I agree"
Laugh - "Very funny"

others?
I wasn't sure about the Laugh icon tbh...I didn't want the site to turn into everyone trying to get more smiles than anyone else.
The icons intention was to encourage good content
Tinhead Tinhead
Posts: 17,085
#8 4 Jan 2023 15:39
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In reply to Post #7

A thumbs down and laughing at someone to ridicule them is not helpful.
What we had before a thumbs up is adequate in my opinion
RKB
Posts: 1,731
#9 4 Jan 2023 15:42
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In reply to Post #7
Have you ever ventured into the Off Topic section, Karlos!?!

It's all subjective though.....some of the most despicable posts I've seen on here received lots of thumbs up. Perhaps give an indicator as to who clicked on them?

The other icons just sound like emojis and would probably be used in the same way.
Tinhead Tinhead
Posts: 17,085
#10 4 Jan 2023 18:45
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In reply to Post #9
Despicable to you maybe but not to those who thought a thumbs up was appropriate.

Why do you want to know who awarded the thumb, so you can use your 'expert' judgement and judge them as being despicable as well.
RKB
Posts: 1,731
#11 4 Jan 2023 19:15
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In reply to Post #10
What's wrong with a bit of transparency on a public forum? Not much in my view.
Tinhead Tinhead
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#12 4 Jan 2023 19:19
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In reply to Post #11
Because it will become tribal.
I'm leaving it to Karlos.
RKB
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#13 4 Jan 2023 19:20
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In reply to Post #12
As will I, of course.

Re: your edit - it already is tribal. This has nothing to do with transparency though.
mark1009
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#14 4 Jan 2023 19:28
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In reply to Post #13
I found the thumbs up as a useful way to say I agree and or endorse a post rather than having to type a whole sentence or paragraph. If people don't like a post then they should go to the trouble of explaining what was wrong with it. IMHO.
RKB
Posts: 1,731
#15 4 Jan 2023 19:41
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In reply to Post #14
I participate on another forum where they have a "Like" button, so basically the same as here. The difference is that when you hover over the "Likes" it shows which users had clicked it. I find that interesting and a useful gauge with regards to what others are thinking.

The tribal thing that Tinhead mentioned; I wonder if it might actually reduce somewhat if posts attacking other users - that got several thumbs up - would be discouraged if those doing the clicking were not doing so anonymously. If you want to endorse something that someone else has posted, but don't want to be actually associated with it, that's odd.

Agree about replying to posts you don't agree with, for sure.
Wayne Wayne
Posts: 18,776
#16 5 Jan 2023 09:46
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In reply to Post #15
Bit like voting thought RKB.......most want to keep it to themselves so not odd really.....
RKB
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#17 5 Jan 2023 12:20
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In reply to Post #16
Pretty much every social media platform has a "Like" function that shows which users have clicked it....Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc....it's not controversial! Nor much like voting.
Tinhead Tinhead
Posts: 17,085
#18 5 Jan 2023 14:29
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In reply to Post #17
The Thumbs Up how it used to be was fine IMO.
The reason this forum is still going is that it hasn't turned into FB, Twitter etc.
We don't need people putting up pics of what they had for breakfast to get 'likes'

I can only think you want a Thumbs Down as well as UP is so you can judge and classify people.
The minute we get ......I know your type because you Thumbs Upped/Down something then it's all downhill IMO

That's my opinion, as was said earlier it's up to Karlos
RKB
Posts: 1,731
#19 5 Jan 2023 14:46
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In reply to Post #18
This is the section to give feedback on the forum, which is what we're doing.

I mentioned earlier why I find it interesting - post 15. You suggesting that I want to "judge and classify people" I find somewhat.......judgemental. In any case, it's easy enough to do that without having a thumbs up or like function.

<---- to myself.
framey framey
Posts: 5,316
#20 5 Jan 2023 16:30
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In reply to Post #17
But
Do they have a thumbs down icon ?
RKB
Posts: 1,731
#21 5 Jan 2023 17:05
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In reply to Post #20
Indeed not, I'd much prefer to see who Likes stuff rather than having a Thumbs Down. Can do that with emojis anyway.
Tinhead Tinhead
Posts: 17,085
#22 5 Jan 2023 17:18
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In reply to Post #21
But you said earlier there are despicable posts and you want to know who's liking them.
That's dangerous in my opinion.
If a moderator deems a post unsuitable I'd imagine they'd remove it however many likes its attracted.

Are you a trouble maker?
dannyuk32 dannyuk32
Posts: 1,477
#23 5 Jan 2023 17:56
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In reply to Post #7
Imho, I think having a Laugh icon would be too much - just the Laugh Smiley within the post is fine.
The 'Heart' and 'Thumb' could work together - at least worth a go.
I can't think of any others.
Carew Carew
Posts: 403
#24 5 Jan 2023 23:11
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I liked the thumb up because I could show that I liked a post without boring everyone else with a fresh entry. Yet why would I want to say that I didn't like a post but not give a reason?
Karlos Karlos
MODERATOR
Posts: 14,136
#25 6 Jan 2023 01:40
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Thanks for the feedback.

Tribal is a good way to describe what I am trying to avoid. Well, that's naive of me, we will never avoid tribal...but I don't want to accidentally encourage that mentality.

Originally I did NOT show usernames against likes because I felt that would offer a bit too much transparency, and to reuse the word tribal, possibly encourage users to like posts because their friends (tribe mates ) liked a post.

I hoped the anonymity would encourage genuine feedback. Obviously I do store the user against the like in the database, that's what stops a user from liking the same post multiple times.

I will definitely reinstate the thumb to like/agree with a post and probably a heart to love it.

Not sure if I can easily make 2 types of icon using the old database structure...but I might just make it from scratch again (it was just the webpage code I lost, the historical likes are saved in the database, so they would all reappear once the code goes live)

If there are other features you guys would find handy feel free to whack a suggestion in this Feedback section...you might have noticed I have spent more time on the site in the last couple months than I have in the last 5 years.

Thanks again,
Karlos
RKB
Posts: 1,731
#26 6 Jan 2023 07:36
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In reply to Post #25
Thanks for all your efforts, Karlos!
Greybeard54
Posts: 310
#27 9 Jan 2023 11:39
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Some forums have an "ignore" facility whereby [for instance] a user that constantly seems to start a ridiculous and totally unnecessary argument on an otherwise sensible thread can be hidden from view by the person not wishing to take part in it.

on the whole it generally improves the forum and makes it a much better place.
the amount of genuine people posting increases as they don't have to suffer the argumentative trolls.
Karlos Karlos
MODERATOR
Posts: 14,136
#28 23 Feb 2023 01:22
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I got around to re-writing the LIKE functionality today.

So the little heart will have a number against it if the post has any likes.
If the heart is solid it means you have liked that post (you clicked the heart)

The heart is a toggle. Click to like, click it again to remove the like

Sorry it took me a while to get back to this task.
Tinhead Tinhead
Posts: 17,085
#29 23 Feb 2023 01:41
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In reply to Post #28
Just liked your post. Maybe I'm the first one to use this function
Karlos Karlos
MODERATOR
Posts: 14,136
#30 23 Feb 2023 01:47
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In reply to Post #29
Thanks for liking
You are certainly the first to use this function since I put it 'live' a short while ago

I tidied the top of the topics/thread page too, on some screens the Create Thread buttons didn't fit width ways.

Oh yeah, also added some outline buttons to View Profile or Send PM on the members list pages...looked neater than the text only and will help (slightly) on a mobile phone as the 'tap area' is bigger.

Just need to redesign the whole site/layout next (to make mobile friendly)...but not tonight
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