Looking for options with my lead arrangement. Have been using lead clips for a while and feel like maybe trying something different, any opinions on inline leads? Don't really want to fish solid bags. What circumstances would you not use an inline lead? Etc lake bed. Or is it pretty good for most situations? Love to here different opinions
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I stopped using them ,even in a light lead situation, as they 'plug in ' more than leads using a clip, my feeling was/is to the detriment of presentation .
I stopped using them ,even in a light lead situation, as they 'plug in ' more than leads using a clip, my feeling was/is to the detriment of presentation .
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Wherever possible I use inlines.
I like it that they are simple without the need for a mountain components, they are more slimline, less tangles and the bolt rig affect is better
Some of these fancy rigs look far too complicated in my opinion, no need for them, great if you enjoy tying, tinkering and playing around with them, but not for me
Wherever possible I use inlines.
I like it that they are simple without the need for a mountain components, they are more slimline, less tangles and the bolt rig affect is better
Some of these fancy rigs look far too complicated in my opinion, no need for them, great if you enjoy tying, tinkering and playing around with them, but not for me
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The only situations I would use an inline is either fishing in very close where I can lay the rig down or in solid bags. I prefer to use a lead clip, for me it gives the best overall compromise. I use a helicopter if fishing distance and I often use a running lead if not fishing too far out. A lot of it is personal confidence built up over time as I know a number of people who much prefer an inline
The only situations I would use an inline is either fishing in very close where I can lay the rig down or in solid bags. I prefer to use a lead clip, for me it gives the best overall compromise. I use a helicopter if fishing distance and I often use a running lead if not fishing too far out. A lot of it is personal confidence built up over time as I know a number of people who much prefer an inline
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As per Wandles reply the fear of plugging in over soft ground/silt is most often cited as a -ve but it can also be a +ve. Plugging in is not really a issue if using a braided hook link and even when using stiff links you can just make them longer.
Personally, like Tinhead I very rarely use clips, I just don't like the ability of them to tangle, and sitting there in doubt on the bank. In 30 years I think I've bought 3 packs of clips, they're not for me. I also prefer the more direct resistance from the lead for hooking.
On a couple of recent Fox vids Mr Pitchers has said he's no idea why he switched from in lines to clips, just trend maybe and he's going back to them from clips.
As per Wandles reply the fear of plugging in over soft ground/silt is most often cited as a -ve but it can also be a +ve. Plugging in is not really a issue if using a braided hook link and even when using stiff links you can just make them longer.
Personally, like Tinhead I very rarely use clips, I just don't like the ability of them to tangle, and sitting there in doubt on the bank. In 30 years I think I've bought 3 packs of clips, they're not for me. I also prefer the more direct resistance from the lead for hooking.
On a couple of recent Fox vids Mr Pitchers has said he's no idea why he switched from in lines to clips, just trend maybe and he's going back to them from clips.
Team clip here! 
Just thinking out loud, not trying to disagree with anything already said, but like I say, just some thoughts...
I know that with inline you CAN if need be change the weight fairly easily, but the convenience of taking off a 1.5oz lead and putting a 3oz on to fire a bait out to a fish that just showed is IMHO worth having.
Most of the lakes I fish are silty estate lakes etc, if I were to use a stiff/semi-stiff hooklink I think that an inch or two would be down in the silt and I wouldn't be happy with the 'erectile disfunction' that the hooklink coming back up would cause.
I guess feeling for the drop and swinging the inline lead down would help alleviate that a bit, but depending on the silt - not completely. I don't believe there's a single right/wrong answer, it's all context specific...horses for courses.
Agree an inline will be much nicer for the fish feeling the lead's weight but with hooks being so much sharper than they used to be I don't think that really increases the hooked fish ratio a huge amount, they can still shed the hook.
Watching the plethora of underwater videos available to us nowadays has not made me want to change from a lead clip to inline. The most important part IMHO is the rig mechanics to swing that hook into the bottom lip and snag ASAP and as often as possible (I was amazed at how many fish seem to pull the hooklink straight and still get away with it...although it's very difficult to see the EXACT detail in those films...sometimes the bait may have been blown out before the link straightens)
Helicopters for range
Just thinking out loud, not trying to disagree with anything already said, but like I say, just some thoughts...
I know that with inline you CAN if need be change the weight fairly easily, but the convenience of taking off a 1.5oz lead and putting a 3oz on to fire a bait out to a fish that just showed is IMHO worth having.
Most of the lakes I fish are silty estate lakes etc, if I were to use a stiff/semi-stiff hooklink I think that an inch or two would be down in the silt and I wouldn't be happy with the 'erectile disfunction' that the hooklink coming back up would cause.
I guess feeling for the drop and swinging the inline lead down would help alleviate that a bit, but depending on the silt - not completely. I don't believe there's a single right/wrong answer, it's all context specific...horses for courses.
Agree an inline will be much nicer for the fish feeling the lead's weight but with hooks being so much sharper than they used to be I don't think that really increases the hooked fish ratio a huge amount, they can still shed the hook.
Watching the plethora of underwater videos available to us nowadays has not made me want to change from a lead clip to inline. The most important part IMHO is the rig mechanics to swing that hook into the bottom lip and snag ASAP and as often as possible (I was amazed at how many fish seem to pull the hooklink straight and still get away with it...although it's very difficult to see the EXACT detail in those films...sometimes the bait may have been blown out before the link straightens)
Helicopters for range
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In-line leads for me.
In-line leads for me.
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Have you considered the COG as a compromise? I make my own rather than buy the silly expensive kits and generally use them with very heavy (5-6oz) leads delivered in a bait boat but only because I want them to drop off in the majority of circumstances . . .I could use a drop off inline (I do in solid bags) but get paraniod about nose dive presentations and looped up stiff booms when fishing my normal combis / ronnies etc . .
COGs are castable at mid range (with care) and you need to ensure that the components don't work against each other (correct length of mini connecting leader / sufficient friction fit on the double ring swivel etc). You can buy the rubbber plug inserts off ebay for pennies / drill your own leads / make up your own mini leaders (either crimped fluro or spliced leadcore) / remove the swivel end from a double ring swivel with pliers etc
Have a go and report back!
Have you considered the COG as a compromise? I make my own rather than buy the silly expensive kits and generally use them with very heavy (5-6oz) leads delivered in a bait boat but only because I want them to drop off in the majority of circumstances . . .I could use a drop off inline (I do in solid bags) but get paraniod about nose dive presentations and looped up stiff booms when fishing my normal combis / ronnies etc . .
COGs are castable at mid range (with care) and you need to ensure that the components don't work against each other (correct length of mini connecting leader / sufficient friction fit on the double ring swivel etc). You can buy the rubbber plug inserts off ebay for pennies / drill your own leads / make up your own mini leaders (either crimped fluro or spliced leadcore) / remove the swivel end from a double ring swivel with pliers etc
Have a go and report back!