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Am i being unreasonable? (30 posts / 3,518 views)
scott88m14
Posts: 93
Post #1 2 May 2022 22:34
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I've just been sitting here browsing YouTube videos and something just triggered me, I've seen it quite a few times now and it really winds me up.
I understand people have to learn & people have different styles but it really winds me up when I see someone playing a fish and their clutch is screaming but they're still standing there turning the handle to gain line back or they're trying to pull the rod back harder as the fish is taking line.

Well that's my rant over.

Just read this comment back before submitting and would like to clarify I wasn't meaning to use the term "wind" as a pun.
mark1009
Posts: 4,738
Post #2 2 May 2022 22:56
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In reply to Post #1
I guess some people just never learnt to play fish properly. Or they don't understand how to adjust the clutch properly. I'd put it down to ignorance. However people really should learn to play fish well before fishing for carp, or barbel.
2ndChance 2ndChance
Posts: 2,946
Post #3 3 May 2022 00:11
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In reply to Post #1
Mental ... like trying to reverse forward
snapper1 snapper1
Posts: 3,101
Post #4 3 May 2022 00:51
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In reply to Post #1
It's OK carle and Alex can't help it
kells kells
Posts: 6,017
Post #5 3 May 2022 07:43
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That's why I back wind..
Wilberforce
Posts: 293
Post #6 3 May 2022 08:46
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In reply to Post #1
There are those who know,
There are those that don't know,
Then there are those that don't know that they don't know !
Steve5250
Posts: 570
Post #7 3 May 2022 09:31
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In reply to Post #6
And those who know that they don't know... the conscious incompetents 😉
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
Posts: 4,660
Post #8 3 May 2022 10:59
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In reply to Post #5
I get annoyed by anglers that 'backwind' but actually let go of the handle temporarily on a run etc . . .seems daft and a little out of control to me - play the fish off a tight-ish clutch and adjust with your middle/index finger during the fight as required - simple
wandle1 wandle1
Posts: 7,469
Post #9 3 May 2022 12:43
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No,not unreasonable at all,truthful, yes..

Other posters nail on head..on the reverse of those who know,how about those who know nothing, ie,straight into carping with no essential relevant smaller species apprenticeships..

Equally as bad,is those YouTube shots of rods being unnecessarily dragged into the dirt ,or on the bank with a clutch set far to tight...looks good for YouTube,..but on a snag free lake ,bad angling practice in my humble opinion, and potential damage to a nice rod n reel..
Wilberforce
Posts: 293
Post #10 3 May 2022 13:03
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In reply to Post #7
Yes I had omitted that class of numpty.
One on a local lake was complaining about the amount of Goosanders and what were the bailiffs doing about it .
"Look, there's one there now" he screamed.
His answer when informed that it was actually a Black Headed Gull was.."Well I don't Know., do I ?"
To which my retort was " Exactly ! "

One can only presume that the situation is much worse with the influx of all and sundry during Covid.
sundance sundance
Posts: 6,762
Post #11 3 May 2022 15:26
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In reply to Post #9
You can spot those if you are nearby. I've even met a couple from forums that I thought were experienced anglers.

They bump a lot of fish off.

They can spod and marker and walk round the far side and bait up etc. And you think, oh they won't be so bad.

Then they get a run. Clutch is always too loose. That can bump as the BR disengages. But not until after they have 'struck' at an
Already hooked fish. No real sense of line tension vs distance etc. Which I think you pick up very quickly when float fishing.
lurchy lurchy
Posts: 1,205
Post #12 3 May 2022 16:40
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In reply to Post #11
No you're not alone, gets me the right hump... Gonna sound all snobby and elitist here .....but ......the massive tide of covid newbies , popped into local tackle shop with couple hundred quid, watched 20 hrs of videos, posting on face ache that they want a water with 30's in, yawping fish on with a runny clutch .......oh man you set me off now 😡😡😡🤬🤬😂😂
kells kells
Posts: 6,017
Post #13 3 May 2022 17:10
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In reply to Post #8
Learnt me trade as it were using Mitchell 300a had no choice but to learn to back wind. As if you loosened the drag to much the spool was liable to pop of..

Never really felt out of control with a fish more the opposite to honest..
Wilberforce
Posts: 293
Post #14 3 May 2022 18:16
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In reply to Post #13
" if you loosened the drag to much the spool was liable to pop of.. "

I use Mitchell 900's on old glass rods occasionally...principally just to take ze peez when everyone is out showing off their £1000 new set ups ..would never even consider backwinding or churning...modifying Mitchell clutch washers and the caps is so simple.
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
Posts: 4,660
Post #15 3 May 2022 20:30
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In reply to Post #14
Backwinding on modern reels unnecessary IMO - clutches so much more adjustable and smooth - subtle adjustments are easy to keep in synch with the fishes movements and reduce bumping etc.

Agree those youtube shots of overtight clutches / tips high and butts on the ground to make it 'obvious' to the viewer that a fish is on annoys the hell out of me - may they all lose their spangly basia set ups to the depths . . .
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