In reply to Post #91
Fair comment.
What I meant was I'm not saying anything here behind anyones back. I've had this exact conversation with Oli himself. That's not 'to face' as I put it, it's online. Not sure how you even describe that, but not how I did there. They all know without any question whatsoever that I'd say the same shizzle to their faces, all day everyday & twice on a Sunday.
No one is saying things like what Essdee did below with out the person being spoken about's knowledge. I would hope not anyway. Oli can very easily talk to me.
I'm not a monster, I certainly would not want the bloke topping himself, whatever has gone on in the past. I used to like the bloke. But the fact remains, he went out of his way to cause as much trouble as possible for me with my personal fishing. I've also had a world of crap with work to do with them. The contract add ons I mentioned earlier with certain anglers using our stuff just a couple of months ago comes from the same place. There's so much other work related stuff that I can't even be bothered to mention here.
I'm not the one creating this, they are. I just gave up taking their shat & staying silent about it is all.
Fair comment.What I meant was I'm not saying anything here behind anyones back. I've had this exact conversation with Oli himself. That's not 'to face' as I put it, it's online. Not sure how you even describe that, but not how I did there. They all know without any question whatsoever that I'd say the same shizzle to their faces, all day everyday & twice on a Sunday.
No one is saying things like what Essdee did below with out the person being spoken about's knowledge. I would hope not anyway. Oli can very easily talk to me.
I'm not a monster, I certainly would not want the bloke topping himself, whatever has gone on in the past. I used to like the bloke. But the fact remains, he went out of his way to cause as much trouble as possible for me with my personal fishing. I've also had a world of crap with work to do with them. The contract add ons I mentioned earlier with certain anglers using our stuff just a couple of months ago comes from the same place. There's so much other work related stuff that I can't even be bothered to mention here.
I'm not the one creating this, they are. I just gave up taking their shat & staying silent about it is all.
No one needed to blow it to bits. That fish had been caught previously many times. People knew where it lived. But respectful people, who all loved the river. The area was safe for many, many years. That all went out the window in 24 hours with the pest & Oli. No one needed to drone the entire area up & post it all online. No one needed to bring film crews & all the associated folks down there, before they had even landed a single carp. How tragic can you really get?
Everyone knows that it was not 50+. I was fishing that night. He got consultants from various bait companies down there to take the photos, including Oli. All of them non Thames carp anglers. No one saw it weighed. No photos or video of the first Thames 50+ being weighed. He knew exactly what he was doing. In the same way the following day Oli knew exactly what he was doing. You earn a name like 'the pest'. That name was given to him 30 years ago by Geoff Bowers I am told. The following weekend my friend sat on the bench in the park, watched young snap back carper, after young snap back carper walk up the stretch. That was a direct result of Oli Davis.
The very well respected bloke who showed Oli & co Bled, told me it was the single biggest mistake of his life when he worked for Nash. Destroyed the place he loved, to the point where he never went back. That's what they do. When Oli was doing that for his work, it's half understandable to an extent. What he did with that Thames fish was so out of order though. It had zero to do with him. He just did it for sheer Instagram likes.
The Thames record has been broken at least three times since, all by the same fish. Photos don't get shown, nothing gets publicised. That's directly to keep it well away from all that lot.
It broke my fishing heart. I know that sounds tragic, but it's the truth. That's exactly what they wanted. To this day I still don't know why. I'm big enough to accept that it is all long in the past now. But Oli Davis owes me an apology for that. That will not happen though.
Everyone knows that it was not 50+. I was fishing that night. He got consultants from various bait companies down there to take the photos, including Oli. All of them non Thames carp anglers. No one saw it weighed. No photos or video of the first Thames 50+ being weighed. He knew exactly what he was doing. In the same way the following day Oli knew exactly what he was doing. You earn a name like 'the pest'. That name was given to him 30 years ago by Geoff Bowers I am told. The following weekend my friend sat on the bench in the park, watched young snap back carper, after young snap back carper walk up the stretch. That was a direct result of Oli Davis.
The very well respected bloke who showed Oli & co Bled, told me it was the single biggest mistake of his life when he worked for Nash. Destroyed the place he loved, to the point where he never went back. That's what they do. When Oli was doing that for his work, it's half understandable to an extent. What he did with that Thames fish was so out of order though. It had zero to do with him. He just did it for sheer Instagram likes.
The Thames record has been broken at least three times since, all by the same fish. Photos don't get shown, nothing gets publicised. That's directly to keep it well away from all that lot.
It broke my fishing heart. I know that sounds tragic, but it's the truth. That's exactly what they wanted. To this day I still don't know why. I'm big enough to accept that it is all long in the past now. But Oli Davis owes me an apology for that. That will not happen though.
In reply to Post #82
That's good advice
AKA reality check. I love my fishing and have lost my way a couple of times in the past but have managed to remain grounded, TF
Variety is the spice of life
That's good advice
AKA reality check. I love my fishing and have lost my way a couple of times in the past but have managed to remain grounded, TF
Variety is the spice of life
Just watched the Nash podcast.... apparently, rising costs and brexit key factors behind the decision to close the bait section. I wonder how much impact the Cavagnac affair hurt sales in France?
I'm not a Nash fan and have tried to avoid using anything Nash branded following bad experiences with the original titan, but I felt genuinely sorry for AB as he seemed genuinely sad at having to make staff redundant.
I'm not a Nash fan and have tried to avoid using anything Nash branded following bad experiences with the original titan, but I felt genuinely sorry for AB as he seemed genuinely sad at having to make staff redundant.
I don't understand how this impacts the Bushwhacker. Even if they have cash flow issues, surely you try and sell more of your best products?
In reply to Post #95
What was the Cavagnac affair please.....?? Ta
What was the Cavagnac affair please.....?? Ta
In reply to Post #96
Yes, but if you can't pay your manufacturer for them ,you can't sell them
Yes, but if you can't pay your manufacturer for them ,you can't sell them
In reply to Post #97
Pm for you.
Pm for you.
In reply to Post #98
Must be up **** creek if they cant get a line of credit
Must be up **** creek if they cant get a line of credit
In reply to Post #97
English carp fisherie helping themselves to a free supply of stock from public waters.. that's not going to upset anyone is it...As we all know they were all at it at some point
English carp fisherie helping themselves to a free supply of stock from public waters.. that's not going to upset anyone is it...As we all know they were all at it at some point
I've listened to the podcast & a lot of what's said is disingenuous. The jars of tigers should be £18 not £12? Really!? Selling kilo bags of boilie at 3 for 2 price made it unviable? Really?
What about the droves of social media wannabes you give free bait to hoping to flood the social media market? If you limited that you'd save fortunes. How much was providing each of those with free bait providing in sales? Yes I understand you need sponsored anglers, but nash had loads of them. All with NT in their usernames to show their affiliation. Maybe at some time flooding socials like this reaped benefits. But people see through this eventually.
That said maybe I / we are not the target audience. I for one cannot understand the love for Alan Blair. Literally just piggy backs onto other people's fishing and shouts bruv a lot. I also doubt him saying they weren't prepared to use inferior materials in their products a strange one. Doesn't stop them outsourcing manufacturing to China does it. Be a shame if Nash was to go, but it feels the writing is on the wall to some degree. They'll be banking on this new scope range to get them out of trouble
What about the droves of social media wannabes you give free bait to hoping to flood the social media market? If you limited that you'd save fortunes. How much was providing each of those with free bait providing in sales? Yes I understand you need sponsored anglers, but nash had loads of them. All with NT in their usernames to show their affiliation. Maybe at some time flooding socials like this reaped benefits. But people see through this eventually.
That said maybe I / we are not the target audience. I for one cannot understand the love for Alan Blair. Literally just piggy backs onto other people's fishing and shouts bruv a lot. I also doubt him saying they weren't prepared to use inferior materials in their products a strange one. Doesn't stop them outsourcing manufacturing to China does it. Be a shame if Nash was to go, but it feels the writing is on the wall to some degree. They'll be banking on this new scope range to get them out of trouble
In reply to Post #95
Seems like the carp angling fraternity have short memories in France. I know a few French anglers who have been / are sponsored by Nash. Always surprised me that they would want to be associated with them after Cavagnac (although that took place a long time ago now) Cheap bait / tackle and any sense of moral compass goes out the window for some...
Seems like the carp angling fraternity have short memories in France. I know a few French anglers who have been / are sponsored by Nash. Always surprised me that they would want to be associated with them after Cavagnac (although that took place a long time ago now) Cheap bait / tackle and any sense of moral compass goes out the window for some...
In reply to Post #103
Yep.... but what amazed me was how so little was said in mags like carp talk and carpworld. No idea why? Sarcasm switch now off....
Yep.... but what amazed me was how so little was said in mags like carp talk and carpworld. No idea why? Sarcasm switch now off....
In reply to Post #105
Just typed a response to that and re-read your message... Bit controversial there...
Just typed a response to that and re-read your message... Bit controversial there...
In reply to Post #102
The thing with bait prices is a lot of the shop retail company's have been canning the arse out of it for years with there mark up.. now inflation has slowly caught up with it all. There's not the Margins there ever was. There realising there's only so much you can charge for a kilo of fish food.. if Alan Blair thinks charging 18 quid for a jar of nuts would of helped them out a bit better..he's probably the reason there in the situation there in..
The thing with bait prices is a lot of the shop retail company's have been canning the arse out of it for years with there mark up.. now inflation has slowly caught up with it all. There's not the Margins there ever was. There realising there's only so much you can charge for a kilo of fish food.. if Alan Blair thinks charging 18 quid for a jar of nuts would of helped them out a bit better..he's probably the reason there in the situation there in..