In reply to Post #60
The owner wouldn't say who it was but I believe one of them may have been one of the two bailiff's but I do know one of the guys that never went back was farely old and asked for a full refund but not sure if he got it.
The owner wouldn't say who it was but I believe one of them may have been one of the two bailiff's but I do know one of the guys that never went back was farely old and asked for a full refund but not sure if he got it.
Get a Carp Royal Baron. Love mine. Not cheap. German engineering 
In reply to Post #51
. . . feels to me like waters (syndicates / membership venues) need to vet anglers in general more effectively. In the Midlands where this type of venue is few and far between the 'interview' process is usually pretty stringent and for good reason. The best waters baliff themselves as anglers are pretty much all like minded
There will always be stroke pullers with or without boats that like to push the boundaries because thats their USP - once discovered - ban them - simple. A blanket ban of a certain method is lazy management IMO and unfair on the majority that respect both the rules and environment - the only exception to this is day tickets where it makes total sense . . .
. . . feels to me like waters (syndicates / membership venues) need to vet anglers in general more effectively. In the Midlands where this type of venue is few and far between the 'interview' process is usually pretty stringent and for good reason. The best waters baliff themselves as anglers are pretty much all like minded
There will always be stroke pullers with or without boats that like to push the boundaries because thats their USP - once discovered - ban them - simple. A blanket ban of a certain method is lazy management IMO and unfair on the majority that respect both the rules and environment - the only exception to this is day tickets where it makes total sense . . .
In reply to Post #44
Chris. I've no problem if boats are used responsibly, in fact I'd rather see a boat than put up with heavy baiting and feature finding by other means
However on one of the lakes I fish, it seems to be about 50% of boat users that drop baits under the trees where it's impossible to cast. I normally fish close to two such areas so have a good view of this.
One bit of fallout was a carp tethered by a submerged branch after taking the bait in one of these “safe” areas.
Chris. I've no problem if boats are used responsibly, in fact I'd rather see a boat than put up with heavy baiting and feature finding by other means
However on one of the lakes I fish, it seems to be about 50% of boat users that drop baits under the trees where it's impossible to cast. I normally fish close to two such areas so have a good view of this.
One bit of fallout was a carp tethered by a submerged branch after taking the bait in one of these “safe” areas.
In reply to Post #3
I fish farlows a lot and now all of my decent hits are over a decent spread in open water.
Before boats were allowed it was always a case of whomever fishes closest to the island wins
To the op, fish the complete opposite to how a boat would fish. You might be surprised
I fish farlows a lot and now all of my decent hits are over a decent spread in open water.
Before boats were allowed it was always a case of whomever fishes closest to the island wins
To the op, fish the complete opposite to how a boat would fish. You might be surprised
In reply to Post #64
. . .poor fishery management also must contirbute to this problem as well though - whilst I love mature tree lined estate type lakes overhanging trees do become a problem for the reasons you've stated and more - solution = keep them chopped back
. . .poor fishery management also must contirbute to this problem as well though - whilst I love mature tree lined estate type lakes overhanging trees do become a problem for the reasons you've stated and more - solution = keep them chopped back
In reply to Post #67
Yes, overgrown trees inhibit the size of the swim, and make casting problematic. When the canopy on either side meet overhead. Having to cast from a kneeling position is less than ideal.
Yes, overgrown trees inhibit the size of the swim, and make casting problematic. When the canopy on either side meet overhead. Having to cast from a kneeling position is less than ideal.
In reply to Post #35
Difference with a row boat is that the angler can get out to the fish if required.
Difference with a row boat is that the angler can get out to the fish if required.
In reply to Post #67
I agree with that to a certain extent, certainly from a fish safely point of view. It is quite a natural lake but well kept, the owner does trim branches in most areas and keep it well manicured apart from a few areas that create some safe havens. It's a pleasure to walk around and I wouldn't like to see it lose trees or have them deformed.
I certainly wouldn't want it to become like the much easier sterile commercial fishery we occasionally visit.
Other than chopping all the trees back, perhaps the owner should be thinking about restricting the fishing of a few danger areas. Most of us do already respect those areas anyway, it's just a few that push the boundaries to catch at all costs. Perhaps they should fish the easier commercial fishery if they are that desperate.
I agree with that to a certain extent, certainly from a fish safely point of view. It is quite a natural lake but well kept, the owner does trim branches in most areas and keep it well manicured apart from a few areas that create some safe havens. It's a pleasure to walk around and I wouldn't like to see it lose trees or have them deformed.
I certainly wouldn't want it to become like the much easier sterile commercial fishery we occasionally visit.
Other than chopping all the trees back, perhaps the owner should be thinking about restricting the fishing of a few danger areas. Most of us do already respect those areas anyway, it's just a few that push the boundaries to catch at all costs. Perhaps they should fish the easier commercial fishery if they are that desperate.
In reply to Post #69
arrrgh...but that is not what the conversation ive had....
im all for fish rescue, but this is purely re bait placement
arrrgh...but that is not what the conversation ive had....
im all for fish rescue, but this is purely re bait placement
In reply to Post #70
I'm probably in the minority here but one of the things baitboat captures does for me,is it somehow devalues all the old ,hard earned captures of yesteryear...... Now when i see endless feeds of trophy shots,most mean little or nothing .... Can't help thinking ''yeah ,nice fish ,but did you just chugg 'em out and reel 'em in'' ...Soulless carping at its best......The kudos has long since vanished.....
Regards Tad.
I'm probably in the minority here but one of the things baitboat captures does for me,is it somehow devalues all the old ,hard earned captures of yesteryear...... Now when i see endless feeds of trophy shots,most mean little or nothing .... Can't help thinking ''yeah ,nice fish ,but did you just chugg 'em out and reel 'em in'' ...Soulless carping at its best......The kudos has long since vanished.....
Regards Tad.
In reply to Post #65
Glad to see someone with a broader outlook.
In the dutch city of utrecht there was a vote on a total ban of fishing for all public waters. They lost by just one vote, until the next vote. In the city of almere all maintenance of public fishing posts is cancelled, on top of a ban on world and eurocup matches. I'm sure if i read some more local news i could go on for a day listing the trend.
And that's the real problem, we have a club of peepo that consider humans as not being a part of nature, like little gods overestimating their already lacking mental capacities. I;m not going to bother everybody with an endless essay, but jabbies and nappies are peas from the same pot as a ban on fishing. In the end it boils down to how you view the position of humans in relation to nature.
On topic, yes baitboats are cheating (as are bolt rigs:P), but i use my oldtimer regularly to prebait a bit quicker.
Glad to see someone with a broader outlook.
In the dutch city of utrecht there was a vote on a total ban of fishing for all public waters. They lost by just one vote, until the next vote. In the city of almere all maintenance of public fishing posts is cancelled, on top of a ban on world and eurocup matches. I'm sure if i read some more local news i could go on for a day listing the trend.
And that's the real problem, we have a club of peepo that consider humans as not being a part of nature, like little gods overestimating their already lacking mental capacities. I;m not going to bother everybody with an endless essay, but jabbies and nappies are peas from the same pot as a ban on fishing. In the end it boils down to how you view the position of humans in relation to nature.
On topic, yes baitboats are cheating (as are bolt rigs:P), but i use my oldtimer regularly to prebait a bit quicker.
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In reply to Post #74
It goes back to post #1 where the original poster said a less experienced angler than himself was catching three times the amount he was because the inexperienced angler was using a bait boat.
It goes back to post #1 where the original poster said a less experienced angler than himself was catching three times the amount he was because the inexperienced angler was using a bait boat.