In reply to Post #30
Classic.
Classic.
In the 80s & 90s there was a liquid doing the rounds among the cognoscenti known as Pig (or piglet) Weaner. It was a golden coloured, quite thick liquid with a very distinct buttery, vanilla-ry smell that could be used at quite high levels. I believe in the mid 90s Richworth marketed it as Bird Feed Enhancer and Nutrabaits as Cream Cajouser. At the same time a very fine white powder, said to be a non-liquid version, was finding favour. This certainly smelled very similar. I believe it was the original Cotswold Baits Milk B, and it is no coindicence that a certain well respected scientist/carp angler was connected to Cotswold Baits and had contacts at Pancosma, an agricultural food producer, apparently the source of the products.
In reply to Post #7
Was Milky B available when Pruteen did the rounds ?
Yes it was (see below). And who used a lot of Pruteen back in the day...?
Was Milky B available when Pruteen did the rounds ?
Yes it was (see below). And who used a lot of Pruteen back in the day...?
In reply to Post #33
As far as I know pruteen was developed for pig feed, however the pigs wouldn't eat it despite it's good nutritional profile because they didn't like the taste. It was in the ritchworth tutti frutti and probably other baits at the time. They were not "crap" baits the bad taste of the pruteen was masked by castor sugar and the added flavour. Both of which were found to be favourable to carp.
As far as I know pruteen was developed for pig feed, however the pigs wouldn't eat it despite it's good nutritional profile because they didn't like the taste. It was in the ritchworth tutti frutti and probably other baits at the time. They were not "crap" baits the bad taste of the pruteen was masked by castor sugar and the added flavour. Both of which were found to be favourable to carp.
In reply to Post #34
Strange that the pigs wouldn't eat it, yet ICI sold the technology to Rank Hovis who went on to produce Quorn using the same technique...
Strange that the pigs wouldn't eat it, yet ICI sold the technology to Rank Hovis who went on to produce Quorn using the same technique...
In reply to Post #35
Must have found a way to improve or mask the taste.
Must have found a way to improve or mask the taste.
In reply to Post #35
It wasn't the same culture.
ICI made Pruteen first then stopped making it as wasn't giving viable margins, they used the technology to work with Rank Hovis to develop Quorn.
Im think it was Rank Hovis who sold out first to ICI in the 90's but may be incorrect.
It wasn't the same culture.
ICI made Pruteen first then stopped making it as wasn't giving viable margins, they used the technology to work with Rank Hovis to develop Quorn.
Im think it was Rank Hovis who sold out first to ICI in the 90's but may be incorrect.
In reply to Post #35
Strange that the pigs wouldn't eat it
Apparently pigs are VERY fussy eaters, despite what we think.
Strange that the pigs wouldn't eat it
Apparently pigs are VERY fussy eaters, despite what we think.
Would a pig eat a bag of Richworth Tuttis though? I suspect the answer is yes and ICI missed a trick!
In reply to Post #32
Ken I believe this was the same stuff Chris Haswell sold through his bait company as Mental Juice. I believe Pig Nectar was the trade name or something.
Ken I believe this was the same stuff Chris Haswell sold through his bait company as Mental Juice. I believe Pig Nectar was the trade name or something.
In reply to Post #40
Yep, you are correct...Pig Nectar, not Weaner.
Yep, you are correct...Pig Nectar, not Weaner.
In reply to Post #40
We had thousands of pigs in those days and were into everything pig , must say never heard of Pig Nectar ,there was TUCKS Instant wean which was first I came across.
I suspect it was probably Palasweet trade name for Talin which was marketed by Tate and Lyle to put in the water of newly weaned piglets to encourage liquid intake.
It was brown in colour and similar to water in consistency so who ever sold it could have mixed it with glycerine to make it into a thicker. it cost £20 per litre.
We had thousands of pigs in those days and were into everything pig , must say never heard of Pig Nectar ,there was TUCKS Instant wean which was first I came across.
I suspect it was probably Palasweet trade name for Talin which was marketed by Tate and Lyle to put in the water of newly weaned piglets to encourage liquid intake.
It was brown in colour and similar to water in consistency so who ever sold it could have mixed it with glycerine to make it into a thicker. it cost £20 per litre.
How much of this would you put into a 1kilo mix in summer and winter ?
In reply to Post #43
I use 6 or 7 grams per kilo
I use 6 or 7 grams per kilo
In reply to Post #43
Varies on the potency of the powder and where it comes from, anything from 1 to 5g is usually sufficient, you can add more if you wish but it starts to take over the smell of the bait if you're going to add other ingredients
Varies on the potency of the powder and where it comes from, anything from 1 to 5g is usually sufficient, you can add more if you wish but it starts to take over the smell of the bait if you're going to add other ingredients